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Corrik7
03/18/20 3:22:30 PM
#351:


https://www.thedailybeast.com/imperial-college-prof-neil-ferguson-who-inspired-us-and-uk-coronavirus-lockdowns-is-in-self-isolation

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red sox 777
03/18/20 3:25:36 PM
#352:


Honestly Trump's strategy from February was wait until April. So the strategy is changing on a daily basis but I'm pretty sure if it comes down to shutting down the country for a year vs letting the virus run free, they'll go with the latter because it's better for Trump's reelection.

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Corrik7
03/18/20 3:32:22 PM
#353:


red sox 777 posted...
Honestly Trump's strategy from February was wait until April. So the strategy is changing on a daily basis but I'm pretty sure if it comes down to shutting down the country for a year vs letting the virus run free, they'll go with the latter because it's better for Trump's reelection.
The strategy is shut down, it comes back, shut down again, rinse and repeat until vaccine is made.

That's why I keep saying I don't know if I agree with this strategy.

The report estimates doing nothing with 4-6 million american deaths.

The report estimates with mitigation 2-3 million american deaths.

The report estimates with suppression around 700,000 american deaths.

This doesn't include deaths that happen relating to this such as no hospital beds for people who need them or suicides from people who lose their livelihoods, etc.

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red sox 777
03/18/20 3:38:42 PM
#354:


Corrik7 posted...
The strategy is shut down, it comes back, shut down again, rinse and repeat until vaccine is made.

That's why I keep saying I don't know if I agree with this strategy.

The report estimates doing nothing with 4-6 million american deaths.

The report estimates with mitigation 2-3 million american deaths.

The report estimates with suppression around 700,000 american deaths.

This doesn't include deaths that happen relating to this such as no hospital beds for people who need them or suicides from people who lose their livelihoods, etc.

I have serious doubts about those numbers. They feel off by an order of magnitude or two. It just doesn't line up with what we're seeing on the ground so far.

And the flaw is pretty clear. They are assuming the fatality rate is what it is based on the fatality rate of those diagnosed with it. But in reality, there are far more actual cases than confirmed cases already, and the death rate is therefore far lower.

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Corrik7
03/18/20 3:44:52 PM
#355:


red sox 777 posted...
I have serious doubts about those numbers. They feel off by an order of magnitude or two. It just doesn't line up with what we're seeing on the ground so far.

And the flaw is pretty clear. They are assuming the fatality rate is what it is based on the fatality rate of those diagnosed with it. But in reality, there are far more actual cases than confirmed cases already, and the death rate is therefore far lower.
They acknowledge that and say the numbers will be different because the actual numbers are definitely not the same as the numbers they have now.

But, this is the report Trump is basing his strategy off of and it is why I don't agree with it.

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red sox 777
03/18/20 3:50:28 PM
#356:


One should never assume that Trump is basing his strategy off of anything as simple as listening to a report. The man plays 4D chess. He may lose sometimes, but calling his defeat because he placed his queen on a square where it can be captured is too simple. He may have counterplay prepared.

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ChaosTonyV4
03/18/20 3:54:11 PM
#357:


https://twitter.com/hilaryagro/status/1240304025548906496?s=21

@HillaryClinton, get this man some adrenochrome, STAT

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Corrik7
03/18/20 3:55:10 PM
#358:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://twitter.com/hilaryagro/status/1240304025548906496?s=21

@HillaryClinton, get this man some adrenochrome, STAT
What the fuck did I just watch

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Jakyl25
03/18/20 3:56:13 PM
#359:


Corrik7 posted...

What the fuck did I just watch


A man you think can beat Trump
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TheRock1525
03/18/20 4:06:20 PM
#360:


I am absolutely 100% missing what was wrong with that clip.

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red sox 777
03/18/20 4:47:50 PM
#361:


We saved Trump's market gains in the Dow with a rally in the last 20 minutes today. We are now 71 points above Jan. 20, 2017. So we live to fight another day.

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Corrik7
03/18/20 4:47:59 PM
#362:


https://imgur.com/gallery/HAHU4vg

Here is a summary of the report, Redsox.

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Corrik7
03/18/20 4:55:32 PM
#363:


TheRock1525 posted...
I am absolutely 100% missing what was wrong with that clip.
You know how you come into the topic and start blabbering random ass shit that is incoherent because you don't understand what the fuck is going on?

That's what he just did on tape.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/18/20 4:56:15 PM
#364:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://twitter.com/hilaryagro/status/1240304025548906496?s=21

@HillaryClinton, get this man some adrenochrome, STAT

As another resident "Biden is a trash fire" user, I don't think this is a senility thing. There was probably a mixup with the cameras where they were supposed to stop streaming but didn't, and he was waiting for the fadeout before stepping down, and she didn't realize they were still on.
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Wanglicious
03/18/20 5:11:37 PM
#365:


https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1240371160078000128

y'know.
shit like this makes me think we should raise the voting age.


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ChaosTonyV4
03/18/20 5:12:11 PM
#366:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
As another resident "Biden is a trash fire" user, I don't think this is a senility thing. There was probably a mixup with the cameras where they were supposed to stop streaming but didn't, and he was waiting for the fadeout before stepping down, and she didn't realize they were still on.

Nag, she was getting his attention, because at the end she even says Joe...?

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Jakyl25
03/18/20 5:12:41 PM
#367:


Wanglicious posted...
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1240371160078000128

y'know.
shit like this makes me think we should raise the voting age.



None of those people voted anyway
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ChaosTonyV4
03/18/20 5:13:27 PM
#368:


Wanglicious posted...
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1240371160078000128

y'know.
shit like this makes me think we should raise the voting age.

Theres 100% chance that dude didnt vote.

What if we do a middle ground, raise the age to 21 but also add a cap, say...65?

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HeroicCrono
03/18/20 5:14:51 PM
#369:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Theres 100% chance that dude didnt vote.

What if we do a middle ground, raise the age to 21 but also add a cap, say...65?

How about you get 1 vote for each year of your age?
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UshiromiyaEva
03/18/20 5:27:29 PM
#370:


There should absolutely be a cap on voting age.
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FFDragon
03/18/20 5:31:24 PM
#371:


HeroicCrono posted...
How about you get 1 vote for each year of your age?

why the fuck do I want 93 year old chucklefucks having three times the voting power as me

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ChaosTonyV4
03/18/20 5:33:57 PM
#372:


What if everyone starts at 100 and loses a vote for each year theyre alive.

The longer you have left, the more your vote should count because you have to live with the results.

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red sox 777
03/18/20 5:37:31 PM
#373:


Okay, okay. Tony, let's do your system for the primary and my system for the general.

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KamikazePotato
03/18/20 6:04:58 PM
#374:


Wanglicious posted...
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1240371160078000128
Oof


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Jakyl25
03/18/20 6:09:52 PM
#375:


Trump said People are dying who have never died before.

Lets hope that stays accurate

EDIT: Potentially a HOAX
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RaidenGarai
03/18/20 6:14:55 PM
#376:


Jakyl25 posted...
Trump said People are dying who have never died before.

Lets hope that stays accurate
Post of the topic right here

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Wanglicious
03/18/20 6:17:14 PM
#377:


...what does he know that we don't.

in our quest for a cure did we just make the undead?

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greengravy294
03/18/20 6:20:34 PM
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TheRock1525
03/18/20 6:26:27 PM
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Wanglicious
03/18/20 6:28:16 PM
#380:


"I am the GREATEST of my bone.
MAGA is my body and KFC is my blood.
I have created over a thousand deals.
Unaware to banks.
Nor known to feds.
Have withstood pain to create many markets
Yet these hands will be the greatest seen
So as I pray, Unlimited Bigly Works."


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MikeTavish
03/18/20 6:38:59 PM
#381:


Jakyl25 posted...
Trump said People are dying who have never died before.

Lets hope that stays accurate

Is there a link to video or audio of this because I can't find any anywhere which makes me think this is fake.

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Maniac64
03/18/20 6:52:10 PM
#382:


Wanglicious posted...
if it was right this second trump would win only because people aren't going to be in favor of MASSIVELY changing everything in the middle of a crisis. he is currently a wartime president.

and gas is already cheap. it's potentially hitting a buck soon.
Where are you that gas is that cheap? It's still over $2.10 here.

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Jakyl25
03/18/20 6:58:13 PM
#383:


MikeTavish posted...


Is there a link to video or audio of this because I can't find any anywhere which makes me think this is fake.


Youre probably right. I cant find one either and he apparently said it yesterday.

There absolutely would be a clip of it by now if it was real.
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LordoftheMorons
03/18/20 7:10:01 PM
#384:


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1240391871026864130

He's preparing to use it IN THE FUTURE IF THERE'S A NEED? WHAT THE FUCK?

We need to massively ramp up PPE/ventilator manufacturing this fucking second!

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red sox 777
03/18/20 7:24:03 PM
#385:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1240391871026864130

He's preparing to use it IN THE FUTURE IF THERE'S A NEED? WHAT THE FUCK?

We need to massively ramp up PPE/ventilator manufacturing this fucking second!

He needs to maintain the pretense that everything is fine so we should vote for him. Don't worry, the production is going on, that's why he invoked the act.

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Wanglicious
03/18/20 7:38:01 PM
#386:


Maniac64 posted...
Where are you that gas is that cheap? It's still over $2.10 here.

i don't know what NY is.
but friend in Ohio gets hers at 1.49 now.


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NFUN
03/18/20 7:53:23 PM
#387:


Wanglicious posted...


i don't know what NY is.
but friend in Ohio gets hers at 1.49 now.


NY is a state on the East Coast of the USA, but that's not important right now
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MikeTavish
03/18/20 8:01:20 PM
#388:


Maniac64 posted...
Where are you that gas is that cheap? It's still over $2.10 here.

I haven't seen gas as cheap as it is now since the 90s. It's about 70 cents a litre in toronto right now. Was hovering around $1.10/L a month ago.

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ChaosTonyV4
03/18/20 8:07:40 PM
#389:


https://twitter.com/mattbinder/status/1240418892650029057?s=21

Who could have foreseen this?

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Jakyl25
03/18/20 8:14:27 PM
#390:


Still $2.09 here
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LordoftheMorons
03/18/20 8:48:11 PM
#391:


A second Congressman has tested positive:

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1240436715732549632

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SmartMuffin
03/18/20 8:53:42 PM
#392:


weird how all the actors, athletes, and politicians keep testing positive despite assuring us that they're feeling just fine and have no symptoms

and how for everyone else, even if you have terrible symptoms, you can't get tested at all

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RaidenGarai
03/18/20 10:04:46 PM
#393:


SmartMuffin posted...
weird how all the actors, athletes, and politicians keep testing positive despite assuring us that they're feeling just fine and have no symptoms

and how for everyone else, even if you have terrible symptoms, you can't get tested at all
That probably depends on the area.

My oldest had a 104.6 fever earlier today (turned out that it was just strep, which feels odd to say), but they had a mobile testing center set up at our hospital here. If the strep and flu tests came back negative, they said they would have tested her for that

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ChaosTonyV4
03/18/20 10:43:05 PM
#394:


https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/18/refusal-pelosi-consider-universal-cash-payments-response-coronavirus-pandemic

Nancy Pelosi is to the Right of Republicans on this right.

This is how Democrats can lose the election during a recession.

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StartTheMachine
03/18/20 10:49:01 PM
#395:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/18/refusal-pelosi-consider-universal-cash-payments-response-coronavirus-pandemic

Nancy Pelosi is to the Right of Republicans on this right.

This is how Democrats can lose the election during a recession.
jesus fucking christ

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red13n
03/18/20 10:49:06 PM
#396:


Source on Pelosi opinions?

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UshiromiyaEva
03/18/20 10:51:34 PM
#397:


Just more and more of a push nowadays to convince me that moderate Dems aren't actually a real thing.
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Jakyl25
03/18/20 10:55:43 PM
#398:


red13n posted...
Source on Pelosi opinions?


https://twitter.com/drew_hammill/status/1239999266019516416?s=21

Her deputy chief of staff

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red13n
03/18/20 10:56:26 PM
#399:


From what I'm reading this has nothing to do with the cash payments bill already being put in place. She is pushing for an additional bill to be done immediately after.

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red13n
03/18/20 10:57:22 PM
#400:


Basically, calm down we are still getting our bribe.

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