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TheRock1525 03/08/20 10:46:43 PM #101: |
3 of the women she is burying are the Riott Squad so its okay.
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scarletspeed7 03/08/20 10:55:37 PM #102: |
Another one is Nattie. Also fine.
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ninkendo 03/08/20 11:00:09 PM #103: |
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StealThisSheen 03/08/20 11:01:31 PM #104: |
Yeah if anything Baszler burying everybody in this chamber is the correct booking given who is in it.
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ZeroSignal620 03/08/20 11:06:28 PM #105: |
TheRock1525 posted...
3 of the women she is burying are the Riott Squad so its okay. That was my exact response tbh. Asuka was the only one with any recent credibility, and she at least got to put up a little fight tonight. --- Formerly known as Raven 2 https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/ZeroSignal-X.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrivateBiscuit1 03/08/20 11:08:35 PM #106: |
Burying the entirety of the women's division is the reason why the women's division has had literally nothing going on in it since Ronda left.
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NBIceman 03/08/20 11:11:46 PM #107: |
No, not letting anyone show dominance at a meaningful level is the reason why.
Like, far be it for me to ever defend anything WWE does but "booking someone new who has star power to look strong" is not really something they should be raked over the coals for considering they usually have to be dragged into that kicking and screaming. --- https://imgur.com/UYamul2 Spurs - Yankees - Eagles - Golden Knights ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrivateBiscuit1 03/08/20 11:22:20 PM #108: |
I think it's more fair to say that Charlotte and Ronda burying an entire division, and to a lesser extent Alexa, is why nobody has been able to show any sort of dominance at a meaningful level. Like, what's even the point to ever care about any of these women if they can't even show off during an Elimination Chamber? You can't convince me the best move to make Shayna look dominant is by having her bury everyone in an Elimination Chamber.
They let fucking Lince Dorado of all people look like a freaking all star in his elimination chamber. They made everyone in the Women's chamber look like shit except for Shayna. The fact that nobody cares about the Riott Squad or Natalya is an indictment of just how shitty that entire division has been treated in the first place. Nobody is competitive, and the one match they could actually at least look a little bit competitive in, they have Shayna kill them each in two moves. Why should anyone ever care about a single one of them ever again? Why should they even be allowed on TV again? --- Check out my entertainment blog!: www.heroicbiz.com I discuss video games, comics, movies, and TV! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 03/08/20 11:26:41 PM #109: |
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
You can't convince me the best move to make Shayna look dominant is by having her bury everyone in an Elimination Chamber. Well some people can't be convinced the Earth is round either but it doesn't mean they're not wrong --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrivateBiscuit1 03/08/20 11:29:55 PM #110: |
I mean, cute response I guess.
You could do literally anything to get Shayna over and make her look dominant that wasn't having an elimination chamber match where she beats four women in four minutes. I'm all for making her look strong for the Mania match, but there are other ways. --- Check out my entertainment blog!: www.heroicbiz.com I discuss video games, comics, movies, and TV! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ninkendo 03/08/20 11:31:21 PM #111: |
Maybe we should have or take another bite out of Becky's neck
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Fastbreak 03/08/20 11:33:51 PM #112: |
She is the successor to Ronda and they booked it as "the cage fighter back in a cage" against the riot squad and nattie
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StealThisSheen 03/08/20 11:34:46 PM #113: |
Nah, this was the exact right thing to do. You want her to look like a badass, dominant, big time deal, then you have her dominate what you push as one of your most badass, big time deal matches.
WWE's issue is that they never pull the trigger and let anyone get over because they're too obsessed with 50-50 booking and protecting everybody. Not everybody needs to look like a star because then nobody does. For once, they did what they needed to do to put somebody over big, and it was mostly over people like the Riot Squad and Natalya who are mainly around to make others look better. Good booking, which is one hell of a rarity in WWE. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strife2 03/08/20 11:52:03 PM #114: |
WWE has a problem about keeping 2-3 stars per division actually strong and making THEM unbeatable, so that an actual feud with actual fan investment happens.
They have Charlotte (by force), Becky (by dumb luck), and hopefully now Shayna. They fed Asuka to Charlotte and Becky, so she is dead. The least you can do is make sure Shayna is the one. There is a shelf life on acts, whether you bury them, 50-50, or book them like a badass (to the point of boredom). They waited JUST long enough to get Becky a long ass credible reign before fans just go "Next toy". That or Vince overcomplicates things when there's a "right time" to go with something. I'm annoyed that WWE can't do this "star" thing more often, hence why I said fuck it. --- "Evening caress, Always yearning, I must confess, The stars aren't burning" Copernicus - Candlemass ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strife2 03/09/20 12:12:08 AM #115: |
Final point: maybe if Vince gets enough MMA inspired wrestlers, he won't need to poach current "celebrity" fighters so much.
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ninkendo 03/09/20 12:16:27 AM #116: |
Hoping Tyson Fury can make the time to do a thing at wrestlemania
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XIII_rocks 03/09/20 12:34:39 AM #117: |
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Why should anyone ever care about a single one of them ever again? Why should they even be allowed on TV again? Goldberg pinned Jericho, Michaels and Orton within a 3-4 minute spell during the 03 Chamber. Those guys ended up doing pretty well It's absolutely fine. Wrestlers don't stagnate. Even in kayfabe, they don't. They figure things out, go on "hot streaks" (aka a push). The guys who lost tonight can be repushed, repackaged at any time. And maybe when Baszler isn't such a big deal and being so pushed, maybe one or two of them can get their win back This seems an overreaction --- Not to be confused with XIII_Stones. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 03/09/20 1:29:44 AM #118: |
I mean this is the lady you expect to dethrone Becky, I hope she wouldn't struggle with Sarah fucking Logan.
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Fastbreak 03/09/20 1:32:00 AM #119: |
Liv looked ready to piss her pants as soon as her music hit
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Jakyl25 03/09/20 3:33:16 AM #120: |
The biggest issue IMO was how it was paced.
Liv should have come out 4th and they may as well have had whatever Riott Squad dream spots theyve always wanted to do happen Then Shayna 5th so that it takes most of the period to kill 4 other people so theres only 1 extended beat of anticipation for Shayna vs Asuka instead of 2 Having 2 dead periods hurt the match IMO --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 03/09/20 3:36:26 AM #121: |
Also I disagree that the Tag Chamber was good. Worst match on the show IMO.
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Jakyl25 03/09/20 3:44:45 AM #122: |
https://twitter.com/wwe/status/1236835689074962432?s=21
Thank you Bryan for cutting a great unscripted promo and going out of your way to use it to secretly promote AEW --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 03/09/20 4:09:25 AM #123: |
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESo-yNJWoAUC_W7?format=jpg&name=large
I want to say I absolutely love how incredibly half assed the concept of this poster is executed --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Steiner 03/09/20 4:56:19 AM #124: |
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
lmao I heard that they're just having Shayna Baszler bury everyone. i know, they FINALLY did something right --- Advokaiser makes me feel eternal. All this pain is an illusion. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Steiner 03/09/20 4:57:03 AM #125: |
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Burying the entirety of the women's division is the reason why the women's division has had literally nothing going on in it since Ronda left. the 4 women who got squashed are, thankfully, not the entire women's division --- Advokaiser makes me feel eternal. All this pain is an illusion. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Steiner 03/09/20 4:59:29 AM #126: |
ok i only just saw that argument continued. the thing is, there was zero value between the riot squad and nattie. you're not burying anybody with value, and shayna looked like a killer. i was really worried they were going to do anything other than this, but they NAILED it.
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_SecretSquirrel 03/09/20 5:01:09 AM #127: |
Jakyl25 posted...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESo-yNJWoAUC_W7?format=jpg&name=largeAlso, I love how there's a guy in a major Mania match who has a move named after a sword, but he's not on the poster, but the guy actually holding the sword uses the Spear as his finish. --- Agent Triple Zero at your service! This line reserved for the true greatone, Advokaiser, the 2018 Guru Contest winner. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tom Bombadil 03/09/20 7:21:59 AM #128: |
as silly as that poster is, I'm here for battleaxe becky
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ZeroSignal620 03/09/20 7:26:11 AM #129: |
Further addition to the Women's chamber discussion...
It was booked fine as Baszler mowed down 3 severe undercarders plus Nattie (whose been on-again, off-again in terms of booking for the last 12 years) and Asuka (who, as stated earlier has been fed to Charlotte and Becky but is still probably 4th in WWE's female hierarchy, if one existed). The Riott Squad has never been relevant on the main roster; Ruby's decent, Logan's a Main Event regular, and Liv's fresh off a hilariously bad short feud with Lana. Besides, it wasn't too long ago that they fed 5 guys to Strowman in a chamber only to have him winning a tag title with a 10 year old kid a month later. They did something right yesterday with Baszler. --- Formerly known as Raven 2 https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/ZeroSignal-X.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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paulg235 03/09/20 7:33:36 AM #130: |
4 guys.
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ZeroSignal620 03/09/20 7:50:12 AM #131: |
paulg235 posted...
4 guys. 5 guys It was a 7 man chamber, remember? --- Formerly known as Raven 2 https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/ZeroSignal-X.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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paulg235 03/09/20 7:57:19 AM #132: |
Oh, I forgot that they did that in 2018 and started the match with 3 entrants. Honestly, that probably says a lot about how unmemorable that match truly was if the only things I can recall are Strowman eliminating everyone but Roman and Roman winning in the end.
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Mega Mana 03/09/20 11:45:32 AM #133: |
scarletspeed7 posted...
There is no Nightmare Collective so No, they're an ERA. Earned Runs Average. As in Title Runs. As in having the Undisputed best ERA in NXT. --- "In my headcanon, some staffer saw Trump pull out his phone and start typing so they just Terry Tate Office Linebacker'd him out of his shoes." - FFD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CybrMonkey 03/09/20 11:50:24 AM #134: |
Mega Mana posted...
No, they're an ERA. Earned Runs Average. As in Title Runs. As in having the Undisputed best ERA in NXT.I can't wait for them to discover sabermetrics and rebrand as Undisputed xFIP. --- Lurker extraordinaire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZeroSignal620 03/09/20 12:16:05 PM #135: |
Baszler's win resets the latest streak of unique main event winners. Before last night, the streak was the following, starting with Clash of Champions...
Rollins No one Wyatt Baszler Asuka and Kairi McIntyre Goldberg Not bad; now the streak is at 4 starting with the Kabuki Warriors, and Wrestlemania's main event is likely either Brock vs Drew or Reigns vs Goldberg. --- Formerly known as Raven 2 https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/ZeroSignal-X.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 03/09/20 12:17:46 PM #136: |
Its funny that Shayna now has more PPV main event wins than any woman except Asuka
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Tom Bombadil 03/09/20 12:30:36 PM #137: |
CybrMonkey posted...
I can't wait for them to discover sabermetrics and rebrand as Undisputed xFIP. Undisputed WAR --- https://imgtc.com/i/uWMMlnN.png Radiant wings as the skies rejoice, arise, and illuminate the morn. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 03/09/20 12:31:09 PM #138: |
Thats why they feuded with the WAR Raiders
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Jakyl25 03/09/20 12:57:57 PM #139: |
Its sad how stupid they make Braun look, as much as I love Sami
He literally asked to fight three guys and then got beat pretty damn cleanly and fairly given the rules --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HashtagSEP 03/09/20 1:30:27 PM #140: |
I want to see him math this out in an attempt to figure out where it went wrong.
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TheRock1525 03/09/20 1:35:25 PM #141: |
HashtagSEP posted...
I want to see him math this out in an attempt to figure out where it went wrong.Maybe he'll ask Brains Strowman. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tom Bombadil 03/09/20 1:38:13 PM #142: |
but he's a genetic freak and he's not normal
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Hardcore_Adult 03/09/20 3:38:19 PM #143: |
Been a fair while since I've seen a B8 Wrestling topic. Usually due A, them being rare and B) Me and a few people not exactly seeing eye-to-eye.
Chamber was decent for 1st half, too bad it nosedived. --- I'll get back up for good this time and I ain't comin' down... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Maniac64 03/09/20 5:25:55 PM #144: |
There is almost always a wrestling topic.
But B is certainly understandable. --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Steiner 03/09/20 5:45:55 PM #145: |
they are not rare can he not understand that last time he saw a topic was like topic 430
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Steiner 03/09/20 5:46:39 PM #146: |
he's the one ignoring me which is the best part of this i don't even have him blocked
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StealThisSheen 03/09/20 5:50:59 PM #147: |
All hail Steiner king of wrestling topics, may he forever make them
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Hardcore_Adult 03/09/20 6:33:24 PM #148: |
Maniac64 posted...
There is almost always a wrestling topic. It's just last year there was a HUGE drought. --- I'll get back up for good this time and I ain't comin' down... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Steiner 03/09/20 6:37:21 PM #149: |
too funny
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scarletspeed7 03/09/20 6:39:57 PM #150: |
...Wow. Have we ever gone longer than a couple hours without an open topic?
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