Current Events > Old JRPGs are unplayable because of random encounters.

(+) Yeah! (+)

They just are.

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False

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Old JRPGs are literally unfuckable.

New JRPGs are blasted by a limitless supply of Chad dick.

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There are old JRPGs without random encounters. Lufia 2 only has random encounters in the overworld

New JRPGs are playable because there's an enemy sprite I collide with approximately every 10 steps. It's waaaay better than having the sprite be invisible!
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TC must be young

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Earthbound is great because if you are over-leveled you automatically win.

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Cotton_Eye_Joe posted...

Earthbound is great because if you are over-leveled you automatically win.

And they run away from you after you conquered the area

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Aww, is someone afraid of a little combat?

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EvenSpoonier posted...

Aww, is someone afraid of a little combat?

...you don't have a lot of things you can act tough about, do you?

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EvenSpoonier posted...

Aww, is someone afraid of a little combat?

When fight the same horsemen and slimes for the 200th time it gets a leeetle stale.

When I get the Falcon in Final Fantasy VI I always go straight to Narshe to get the Moogle Charm.


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Wait until TC discovers what happens when you press L and R.

philsov posted...

New JRPGs are playable because there's an enemy sprite I collide with approximately every 10 steps. It's waaaay better than having the sprite be invisible!

yeah it is better because you can choose to fight and grind out every encounter or just completely avoid fighting (and the time wasted by loading into the battles, running away, and the loading back into the field)

Off the top of my bad, Tales of Phantasia(SNES ver), Breath of Fire 1 and Beyond the Beyond are the only JRPGs that has horrible encounter rate.

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Reis posted...

yeah it is better because you can choose to fight and grind out every encounter or just completely avoid fighting (and the time wasted by loading into the battles, running away, and the loading back into the field)

Any system where the enemies run away when I am sufficiently leveled is a good system.

If enemies are aggroing me I need to grind more.

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I love turn based combat and grinding levels and rare drops.

Inject Suikoden 2 into my veins.

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KiwiTerraRizing posted...

I love turn based combat and grinding levels and rare drops.

Inject Suikoden 2 into my veins.

Well you shouldn't grind in Suikoden 2 because You need to play quick to get Clive's story

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Cotton_Eye_Joe posted...

Any system where the enemies run away when I am sufficiently leveled is a good system.

If enemies are aggroing me I need to grind more.

most games with field icons like persona, trails, tales, etc. usually have enemies running away from you when you're over leveled even before you initiate combat so it's the best of both worlds

It does get a little monotonous, but that's literally the purpose of ANY RPG. If no random encounters, no plot. I mean, you did purchase the game yourself... what do you expect?

Hell, Octopath Traveler gets kinda frustrating, and yet that's the only way to complete the game; grinding and leveling up to beat the "boss"

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imagine using trash like octopath traveler as an example

Reis posted...

imagine using trash like octopath traveler as an example

Each to their own way, I guess.

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Reis posted...

octopath traveler

Reis posted...

trash

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why do jrpgs have so many? its honestly tedious and not fun to play.
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Random encounters are better than anything that has come after them.
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E32005 posted...

why do jrpgs have so many? its honestly tedious and not fun to play.

If this is your opinion, then why do you play it to the point of being "tedious and not fun to play"?

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I definitely would say that random encounters are antiquated, but I don't actively hate them. Maybe it's nostalgia. I just played through FF5 and it owned.

I Like Toast posted...

False

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Conflict posted...

This is a dumb question. How are you supposed to form that opinion without playing it?

xD
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Random encounters really aren't that bad for the most part.

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Conflict posted...

This is a dumb question. How are you supposed to form that opinion without playing it?

Fine. Let me rephrase it for you:
Do you still play JRPGs, E32005?

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SeveredThumb posted...

Fine. Let me rephrase it for you:
Do you still play JRPGs, E32005?

ni no kuni is the only one

i like it overall but the encounters get tedious after a few hours
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Reis posted...

yeah it is better because you can choose to fight and grind out every encounter or just completely avoid fighting (and the time wasted by loading into the battles, running away, and the loading back into the field)

What's a recent jrpg that has a 100% avoid mechanism? Loads of fights are unavoidable; all the sprite does is give you a heads up or an opportunity for first strike a la Persona 5.
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philsov posted...

What's a recent jrpg that has a 100% avoid mechanism?

Bravely Default

SeveredThumb posted...

If no random encounters, no plot.

I don't see why you need random encounters to have a plot

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Questionmarktarius posted...

Bravely Default

:p

That sets your random encounter rate to 0 via mechanical toggle. The PC isn't actively avoiding/fleeing/juking the enemy.
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Veggeta X posted...

Off the top of my bad, Tales of Phantasia(SNES ver), Breath of Fire 1 and Beyond the Beyond are the only JRPGs that has horrible encounter rate.

Skies of Arcadia. Swear I had once or twice won a random battle and loaded straight into another one.

E32005 posted...

why do jrpgs have so many? its honestly tedious and not fun to play.

E32005 posted...

ni no kuni is the only one

i like it overall but the encounters get tedious after a few hours

Logical doesn't add up; you either like it or you don't, but okay.

Anyways, when you get tired of the tedious encounters, move on to another game. It helps with the monotony of JRPG. It helped me.

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philsov posted...

What's a recent jrpg that has a 100% avoid mechanism? Loads of fights are unavoidable; all the sprite does is give you a heads up or an opportunity for first strike a la Persona 5.

unavoidable =/= random

this topic is about random encounters. you can't avoid shit like bosses and mini bosses but you almost always know when they're coming up

having the ability to completely avoid trash mobs on the way and engage at your discretion is a net plus 100% of the time

kirbymuncher posted...

SeveredThumb posted...
If no random encounters, no plot.

I don't see why you need random encounters to have a plot

@kirbymuncher
Allow me to explain.

Each plot has a problem, right? And you must overcome/defeat that problem, right?
Well, you can't overcome the problem if you are too weak. Random encounters strengthens your character(s).

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SeveredThumb posted...

@kirbymuncher
Allow me to explain.

Each plot has a problem, right? And you must overcome/defeat that problem, right?
Well, you can't overcome the problem if you are too weak. Random encounters strengthens your character(s).

...So do non-random encounters? You're not really making a point here.

Old school FPS's are unplayable because of the first person view

Old school platforming games are unplayable because you have to jump over obstacles

Old school point and click adventure games are unplayable because you have to point and click

Reis posted...

unavoidable =/= random

this topic is about random encounters. you can't avoid shit like bosses and mini bosses but you almost always know when they're coming up

I mean for mooks -- encounters where it's possible to retreat from in the first place. Scripted enemies that seek you out (Lufia 2, Persona series, Chrono Trigger/Cross) is equally as good/bad as legit random encounters (Final Fantasy).

You said you enjoy having the choice to avoid a "random" battle is all. You prefer something like DQ9 or 11?
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TheLastHero posted...

...So do non-random encounters? You're not really making a point here.

What?? This post is pointless.

We are talking about how random encounters allow players to beat the "bosses" (non-random encounters). Yes, non-random encounters do strengthen your characters, but we were talking about the progression of the plot.

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SeveredThumb posted...

What?? This post is pointless.

We are talking about how random encounters allow to beat the "bosses" (non-random encounters). Yes, non-random encounters do strengthen your characters, but we were talking about the progression of the plot.

There are JRPGs without random encounters (as in enemies you can see on the overworld) that have plots too. Random encounters have nothing to do with plot.

Again, you have no point.

philsov posted...

I mean for mooks -- encounters where it's possible to retreat from in the first place. Scripted enemies that seek you out (Lufia 2, Persona series, Chrono Trigger/Cross) is equally as good/bad as legit random encounters (Final Fantasy).

You said you enjoy having the choice to avoid a "random" battle is all. You prefer something like DQ9 or 11?

how is it random, when you can see you them plainly on the field and control whether or not you engage them

but to answer your question yes I prefer any game system that has field icons like the series mentioned above

TheLastHero posted...

There are JRPGs without random encounters (as in enemies you can see on the overworld) that have plots too. Random encounters have nothing to do with plot.

Again, you have no point.

You do realize that you are missing on viable point, right?:

kirbymuncher posted...

I don't see why you need random encounters to have a plot

Read your posts, bro. My point was in reference to random encounters.
But, in your case, then, non-random encounters are also necessary for the progression of the plot for games without random encounters.

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