Current Events > Old JRPGs are unplayable because of random encounters.

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Bro, just stop posting. Random encounters have nothing to do with plot or story. The end

Reis posted...

how is it random, when you can see you them plainly on the field and control whether or not you engage them

It's random because they spawn at given intervals resulting in an encounter rate similar to a random system. Hence my 100% avoidance question, because if you can control on whether or not to engage, then you can continue to not engage for a significant amount of time.
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TheLastHero posted...

Bro, just stop posting. Random encounters have nothing to do with plot or story. The end

No, not "the end".

I wonder... How many JRPGs with have you beaten?

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oh, well I was unsure of what you meant by that. the trails games are an example of 100% avoidable trash mobs, they're up on the field from the moment you enter a zone and you can either run around them all or fight them all, which is the best possible system.

SeveredThumb posted...

No, not "the end".

I wonder... How many JRPGs with have you beaten?

I've beaten almost as many RPGs as you have active messages posted on Gamefaqs.

philsov posted...

What's a recent jrpg that has a 100% avoid mechanism? Loads of fights are unavoidable; all the sprite does is give you a heads up or an opportunity for first strike a la Persona 5.

Someone mentioned it, but the first Ni no Kuni does. Even before you get the spell that masks your presence, each monster in the overworld has their own predetermined path and attack styles(i.e. Some monsters only being able to charge in one direction meaning you simply just have to step aside to avoid combat). And eventually once you level up enough they run away from you.

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The biggest issue is when there is no balance. The creators should assume the player will have X battles and they'll be around X level. Then the battles should be planned so they'll provide decent challenge without being too easy or too hard so long as the player isn't rushing or over grinding. Many games lack that, so you're either running into battle after battle of Press A to Win or it's a slog to get to even get halfway into the dungeon because you're already dead on the first floor.

Agreed. The only way I can play old JRPGs is with mods that get rid of random encounters.

nemu posted...

The biggest issue is when there is no balance. The creators should assume the player will have X battles and they'll be around X level. Then the battles should be planned so they'll provide decent challenge without being too easy or too hard so long as the player isn't rushing or over grinding. Many games lack that, so you're either running into battle after battle of Press A to Win or it's a slog to get to even get halfway into the dungeon because you're already dead on the first floor.

I think the perfect way to address the issue is by rewarding you for spending time playing the game regardless of what you're doing. If you face a boss that's a higher level than you, your only option shouldn't be to match that level.

If you can grind rare mats/drops, equipment, abilities, etc instead of just grnding for levels then I think that's pretty cool. Most rpgs these days really seem to sacrifice the strategy and preparations that go into combat. A larger emphasis on the role playing aspect like you see in MMOs would be great

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SeveredThumb posted...

Well, you can't overcome the problem if you are too weak. Random encounters strengthens your character(s).

there's no reason the bosses can't be the appropriate strength for someone who has beaten all the previous bosses and the game just have no non-boss encounters at all

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kirbymuncher posted...

there's no reason the bosses can't be the appropriate strength for someone who has beaten all the previous bosses and the game just have no non-boss encounters at all

Then you're brickwalled by a boss because of something you messed up seven bosses ago.

Old JRPGs are unplayable because of random encounters.

hello fellow human, if you had to have this opinion then i would too.

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Questionmarktarius posted...

Then you're brickwalled by a boss because of something you messed up seven bosses ago.

what do you mean "messed up"

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kirbymuncher posted...

what do you mean "messed up"

Picking the "wrong" skills, missing some missable thing, winning a fight with a bunch of guys dead, whatever.

FFI encounters crippled the game imo

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how else would you get exp and level up

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Roxborough4Ever posted...

how else would you get exp and level up

Sidequests and Optional bosses/hunts

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Most JRPGs with random encounters also have some sort of spell or item that prevents random encounters from occurring.

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Questionmarktarius posted...

Picking the "wrong" skills, missing some missable thing, winning a fight with a bunch of guys dead, whatever.

all these are also kinda outdated mechanics imo, at least for a game like that. you'd ideally be able to readjust skill points or whatever freely, would have no permanent missables (though some could require a walk back there lol) and honestly dead party members not getting exp is something that should have never even existed in any game in the first place

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