Current Events > Would you be willing to pay higher taxes to fund healthcare for others?

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Without question

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not unless it's for my own healthcare, fuck everyone else

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Careful guys.

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SamsungGearS2 posted...

not unless it's for my own healthcare, fuck everyone else

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Garioshi posted...

Without question

This.

I won't even benefit from M4A and I'm willing to help pay for it.

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lol @ adding for others

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you mean like relatives? children? grandchildren:??

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I'm broke, others would be paying for mine.

so a wise man once said:

"It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it."

with that said, no, the point of affordable healthcare is not to bankrupt people - and that includes raising taxes

better to cut the red tape driving up costs, streamline public institutions, and then use existing funding more efficiently

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I will, but I'm already doing that since I live in a civilized country.

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Yes, because I'll know my taxes would be going towards the good of my country and it's people.

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Bolle_Henk_ posted...

I will, but I'm already doing that since I live in a civilized country.

If you're an unmarried single person with no children (most likely a lot of us here) making $50,000 a year you're paying over $5000 a year in taxes to corporate welfare and about $230 to SNAP.

If $230 to SNAP pisses you off more than the $5000 to corporate welfare then really you just hate poor people.

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Of course

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No. I already pay for health care I never use to help others. Same with car insurance. I'm paying hundreds a month to fund a system that pays off wrecks caused by other people.

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Whatever I pay in taxes would be less than I pay for health insurance

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Garioshi posted...

Without question

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No
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What do you mean by higher?

Are we talking 1 percent, 10 percent, maybe 10.54372 percent... or what?

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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

What do you mean by higher?

Are we talking 1 percent, 10 percent, maybe 10.54372 percent... or what?

I read 50%.

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Duncanwii posted...

I read 50%.

Oh, thats high.

Well, if it goes to actually helping sick people, then I am all for it.

Im just glad the government is trustworthy and wont budget it inappropriately or illegally, or else wed be fucked.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

If you're an unmarried single person with no children (most likely a lot of us here) making $50,000 a year you're paying over $5000 a year in taxes to corporate welfare and about $230 to SNAP.

This isn't true btw it's just a fake stat that goes viral a lot

Yes definitely. A lot of my family have serious ongoing health issues. So if they could get cheaper or free care I'd gladly pay more in taxes. Plus I'll likely need medical care myself sometime in the future too

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I would entertain such idea for emergencies and other non preventable causes due to aging like alzheimers and cancer etc. Everyone else can get Healthcare if they have 20% or less body fat. We shouldn't subsidize unhealthy lifestyles that drag down the rest of society.

I already fund healthcare for others through the current system, so why not call a spade a spade?

Bolle_Henk_ posted...

I will, but I'm already doing that since I live in a civilized country.

Not a chance in hell. Don't need more lazy, lying fucks spending my money.

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Duncanwii posted...

I read 50%.

Unless youre making over $10 million a year, you read wrong.

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ultimate reaver posted...

Whatever I pay in taxes would be less than I pay for health insurance

This.

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TheMikh posted...

so a wise man once said:

"It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it."

with that said, no, the point of affordable healthcare is not to bankrupt people - and that includes raising taxes

better to cut the red tape driving up costs, streamline public institutions, and then use existing funding more efficiently

in other words: nationalize it and fund it through taxes

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TheMikh posted...

"It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it."

There's a ton of administration in the current system - and profit.
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Depends on how much more taxes

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Yes.

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No.

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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...

Depends on how much more taxes

but probably not

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DezDroppedFreak posted...

Unless youre making over $10 million a year, you read wrong.

@Duncanwii

This.

Please understand this and please don't spread high numbers like that around, without understanding how they apply to the everyday layman

Also that 52% only applies to what you make over $10M so if you made $15M you'd only pay $2.6M in taxes on the extra $5M you made over $10M

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Antifar posted...

There's a ton of administration in the current system - and profit.

Not gonna lie, profiteering in government is a disgusting epidemic and I'd be perfectly ok with it being abolished constitutionally.

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If you have health insurance, you are already paying for healthcare for other people. Using taxes to do that is just cutting out the middleman.

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Tmaster148 posted...

If you have health insurance, you are already paying for healthcare for other people.

You get to choose whether or not to have health insurance though. Not so much with paying taxes.

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Duncanwii posted...

You get to choose whether or not to have health insurance though. Not so much with paying taxes.

I'm sure you the guy who lives off his parents doesn't have to worry about paying income tax.

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

This isn't true btw it's just a fake stat that goes viral a lot

Nah. The "viral stat" has the wrong tax amount on both ends and fails to mention the many different scenarios in which someone with 50k salary doesn't pay that much in taxes. (Someone married with 2 kids pays very little in taxes).

Those numbers are only accurate specifically for unmarred people with no kids which is what I specified.

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TheMikh posted...

so a wise man once said:

"It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it."

with that said, no, the point of affordable healthcare is not to bankrupt people - and that includes raising taxes

better to cut the red tape driving up costs, streamline public institutions, and then use existing funding more efficiently

I don't understand this post at all. For one, the argument isn't that 'we' can't afford health care, the argument is that we can if we pool our resources. Also, the proposal isn't for government to administer health care services but for the government to provide the financing for those services. That does also include administration, but as others have indicated, it streamlines (i.e., reduces the bureaucracy) of our current multipayer system. There are ways we can reduce costs but even with generous assumptions we almost certainly need to raise taxes to cover the costs of any reasonable health care system even

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You know guys, you can pay the government more money in your taxes. You don't have to force everyone else to pay more, too.

I'm willing to bet the 70 people who are voting yes don't pay more for the funsies come tax season.

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Tmaster148 posted...

I'm sure you the guy who lives off his parents doesn't have to worry about paying income tax.

Not only that but he gets a check from the government, but go off about socialism king

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MeltyAlert posted...

You know guys, you can pay the government more money in your taxes. You don't have to force everyone else to pay more, too.

I'm willing to bet the 70 people who are voting yes don't pay more for the funsies come tax season.

correct, taxes only work if they're mandatory

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no, i already pay very high taxes & get very little in return

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Depends on what you mean by "others". In a country as unhealthy as the United States, no. If it was a relatively healthy country like Japan or South Korea, then sure.

Balrog0 posted...

correct, taxes only work if they're mandatory

In your opinion, would you say our government has a good and strong record of spending our tax dollars? It just seems idiotic, to not simply suggest we divert funds from elsewhere to provide for a healthcare program...instead of just paying more money. The government doesn't have a good track record when it comes to needlessly spending our money.

https://moneyminiblog.com/lists/stupidest-things-u-s-government-spends-money-on/

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