Board 8 > Adventure Time Mafia! Topic 6 - Fighting on an endless boss train!

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Its inactive so let me succinctly put my thoughts out there.

Chris is saying I have to be scum based on a dumb PoE. We have 2 free mislynches. I have no reason to be in his PoE but if hes not going to drop me for good already(He should have) then something is fishy.

The only way I want off the table is a situation where we agree that I never go on the table again right now because too many people have set me up as lynch B/C and putting me up fishy as fuck. So if the call is being made to lynch me, it has to be done right now because there is way too much setup with me as option B to make me a mislynch later.

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Lynch me now or lynch me never. Thats not how it works. Like what are you even saying here? You want the entire game to either lynch you today otherwise we all have to agree that you are unlynchable? Im gonna say no. Nobody is unlynchable because the more information we get the more reads can change.

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Sorry. Couldn't log in for last night for some reason

Cliff notes version of Hb case:

Has languished into a very low effort game now that the pressure is off him due to being "town cleared." This reminds me of Godzilla Mafia where he got busted when Ulti said he would always mayor him guaranteed.

Spent a ton of time prodding Lea day 2 but then jumped to Ulti based off "whatever". Feel like he was just trying to park his vote then it exploded too quick-- note he laid groundwork to get off Ulti too (suspicious Lea and I voted him)

People got on him early day 1 for overblown rage at Corrik and I don't fully know why that case was dropped especially seeing as Corrik flipped town

Now you may not think this is much but I think this is better than the case on red currently, and much better than the one on Chris

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I did wonder why HB was so positive in everyone's eyes
Also I forgot he hadnt claimed yet?
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N2
Thats why I knew it couldnt have come from Puns.
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So we should have at least one more with power. Unless scum got it.

And it was granted night 1. I'd be shocked if it's not Chris.

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Night 1 Sbell was fine with me, it was only after I dared to defend Ben that Sbell was like "wtf bro"

but no powers here.

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Well there are worlds that exist that people are right about Red and he just doesn't know how to play mafia anymore. Maybe when I was busy getting a wife and a kid he just lost all of his ability to reason and argue. I guess weirder things have happened.

But like, I have him in the PoE, I have gone over my reasons for clearing a majority of the game and his best comeback is "PoE wrong. Chris fishy. Lots of Fish. Big time fish. Fish bad. PoE bad." which is pretty terrible as far as a defense goes. He also did a disappearing act when Ulti died and hasn't really done anything useful all game. Like you at least have shown up for the big moments and taken stands despite your clear villainy, Red has been shading me since day 1 but also not really doing much with it. Just shade shade shade. Maybe he is town, and hey sure Lopen can bring up points about HB and if you are town then HB bussed the vanilla for cred is somewhat reasonable, but like not sure what I am supposed to do with red here.

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In fairness to Red you also said it was my fault because I didn't let you play the game and since leaving you alone for 2 days you haven't improved all that much.

Like I said, you are living rent free in my head.

But yeah like red is clearly fearmongering here. You know it is fearmongering because you can't find the logic.

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##Vote: Red
Before you ask, no powers here either.
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Not a lot of queens that red could be though.

HB, why not claim your role/flavor at this point?
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Leanansidhe posted...

I was definitely gonna ask. You and Red are doing a good job of protecting yourselves from the flavour assassin.

Well, I'm Abraham Lincoln, TOWN King of Mars.
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Good thing my voice actor assumption turned out to be false then.
(The creator didnt voice Merten, but did voice Lincoln)
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HB forgive me if this was answered before.
But why did you keep your vote on Lea if you didnt want Chris to die?
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htaeD posted...

HB forgive me if this was answered before.
But why did you keep your vote on Lea if you didnt want Chris to die?

What do you mean?
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Oh nevermind, I see that Lea was tied with Chris.
The tide didnt change until Ultis unvote/vote
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This is my issue with the Hb theory. I feel like it only makes sense with Chris as scum. Otherwise there is no reason for him to change. He openly said at the time he was changing to save Chris. I get the argument that he didnt want to vote Ulti but how can Lea and Lopen say oh he only voted to look good when they did the same thing. If Hb is scum it only makes sense to me with Chris.
I'm just not getting the theory here. I mean Lopen and Lea have basically been in Chris the whole game so I get them thinking it might be Hb and Chris. Anyone that thinks hb is scum shouldnt be voting red

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5tarscream posted...

This is my issue with the Hb theory. I feel like it only makes sense with Chris as scum. Otherwise there is no reason for him to change. He openly said at the time he was changing to save Chris. I get the argument that he didnt want to vote Ulti but how can Lea and Lopen say oh he only voted to look good when they did the same thing. If Hb is scum it only makes sense to me with Chris.
I'm just not getting the theory here. I mean Lopen and Lea have basically been in Chris the whole game so I get them thinking it might be Hb and Chris. Anyone that thinks hb is scum shouldnt be voting red

Hb says saying I was town a long time before that. For him to not follow that narrative is suicide

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Votals

[3] Red - (Scare), (Lea), Chris, (Lea), 5tar, Hb
[2] Hbthebattle - Lopen, (Lea), Lea
[0] Lea - (Chris), (Scare)

Day ends in roughly 8 hours and 12 minutes.

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Leanansidhe posted...

I have the worst feeling in the world about Ben but I can't really qualify it well

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AVqj3ZF65LM/hqdefault.jpg

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This is probably the best work youve done all game. I am somewhat curious as to how scum managed to hit puns and SBell back to back. But consider this.
What if scum managed to lynch puns or SBell D1. They kill the other on N1 and the game is just a vanilla fest. Its boring and do we think Han would do that?


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I get the idea of 1 bodyguard at the start because it gives town a chance to actually get some power on the board before getting wiped if Ben has protected SBell or puns. My worry is why is Ben still alive?

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I get the puns kill.
i get the mzero kill.
I dont get killing SBell over killing Chris or red or Ben or Scare.

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I liked your idea of Sultan being given power, so I looked at Mzero's flip. It specifically shows there that his role was upgraded. So Sultan must have been godfather from the start.

My reads are just that, reads. And occasionally im wrong because I thought I could read IGCD well. Certain people I've played a lot with I feel more confident on than others.

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And apparently I should just stop trying with IGCD since I lynched him when he was town last game too

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Leanansidhe posted...

Oh yeah, that's a good point.

Remind me why you were so sure Chris is Town after being duped in YYH mafia again?

I didn't really think about that game or let that factor into it. It's tough to say with hindsight how confident I actually was in that game compared to this game.

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Leanansidhe posted...

Oh hey it's the devil, or Killua, whichever.

Topic 2, post 192 benjamin3740 posted...
I was watching HB. But didn't have anything to say to him. Most of my time was spent catching up.

The only things I'm confident of are Chris and Corrik being town. I'm better at town reading and finding scum by process of elimination.

Topic 3 page 1 benjamin3740 posted...
Well yesterday sure sucked. No clue what happened to Corrik, and I didnt even get a chance to defend myself.

Something else that I wanted to say that I didnt get a chance to - IGCD is most definitely town. IGCDs actions dont make much sense, but make less sense if he was scum. It sounds like he actually got confused at being a Princess role, but then being told he had no powers. That confusion there doesnt happen unless he really is Princess.

While you're here, you didn't really post between post A and post B. Seems like you fell in love out of IGCD out nowhere

That was because I re-read his whole claim over the night phase and saw something (well, thought I saw something) that I didn't before.

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Yeah if I were to die, I imagine you'd all see my upgraded text too.
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Leanansidhe posted...

You'd have to be extraordinarily confident to target an unclaimed person N1, even if it's Chris.

Why were you so honest with your role? The strongest aspect is you could draw a roleblock that wouldn't do anything. Scum roleblocks you and shoots Chris, they get pwned so hard. But instead you just said "yeah I'm a horcrux for Chris don't roleblock me or anything just kill me if you feel like it.

I liked the concept of unkillable Chris way too much to pass up!

I thought about lying. I even had a few fake claims I was gonna do. But when even Chris was asking me to claim I just felt like I needed to be honest or I'd get yelled at by him post game

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Leanansidhe posted...

"That was because I re-read his whole claim over the night phase and saw something (well, thought I saw something) that I didn't before."

"Well yesterday sure sucked. No clue what happened to Corrik, and I didnt even get a chance to defend myself.

Something else that I wanted to say that I didnt get a chance to - IGCD is most definitely town. IGCDs actions dont make much sense, but make less sense if he was scum. It sounds like he actually got confused at being a Princess role, but then being told he had no powers. That confusion there doesnt happen unless he really is Princess."

Well "night phase" was kinda in the middle of the day since day ended early. That's a poor way to word it, you're right. I didn't actually read IGCD town before Corrik was modkilled, and then not post it and miss the chance to. I didn't come to that conclusion till soon after day ended in the modkill. I just said it that way because I was bitter day ended. Usually it doesn't with a modkill.

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If I didn't re-read his claim then how would I have come to that conclusion at all?

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