Board 8 > Umineko seems pretty great. *spoils*

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MichelBollinger
02/06/20 2:38:30 AM
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https://i.imgur.com/4eCIz8Cr.jpg

Didn't know I was playing Ace Attorney!

Not gonna make a lengthy play by play here, just little comments here and there as I go along probably.

Started playing because I know it's considered a pretty legendary game, and with House in Fata Morgana climbing it's way to my number 1 game last year I can't help be interested in another game about a vengeful ghost witch in a secluded western mansion. I will note that that's literally the only thing I knew about this game other than vague memories of a bunch of dead bodies in a shed from the first episode of the shitty anime adaptation from a decade ago, which has no come to pass.

I am definitely engrossed by now, and have absolutely no idea how in the WORLD I am theoretically less than 10% into the length of this game.

Oh, and I did watch the Friday Night Fisticuffs of the fighting game when it aired, which....I am certainly interested in seeing how something like that could come to be.
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MichelBollinger
02/06/20 2:41:17 AM
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Also I fully intended to play this legit on Steam, but the updated art there look just as bad as the original art, but in a different way. That's a choice between napkin drawings and hentai character portraits. Pretty much was gonna be PS3 art or nothing. Still gonna pay for the Steam version come next paycheck.
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UF8
02/06/20 4:49:06 AM
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MichelBollinger posted...
Also I fully intended to play this legit on Steam, but the updated art there look just as bad as the original art, but in a different way. That's a choice between napkin drawings and hentai character portraits. Pretty much was gonna be PS3 art or nothing. Still gonna pay for the Steam version come next paycheck.

since others won't, i'll just say i support your stance

enjoy the excellent voice acting too
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KamikazePotato
02/06/20 4:49:54 AM
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I still have a Stockholm syndrome affection for those napkin drawings.

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MichelBollinger
02/06/20 5:22:34 AM
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Napkins may be giving it too much credit. Napkin drawings are more like "those" chapters of Hunter x Hunter. With the color especially, these are more like MS Paint.

I don't have the energy to do the tea thing or start episode 2 yet, but WOW that ending crawl is very promising. I'm assuming this is going to be repeating the days but with different actions in the episodes moving forward, at least for a bit? Love this kind of stuff. Also some serious 999 vibes from a lot of this, in terms of some tone stuff.

Not to get ahead of myself, and though Higurashi is a very different situation what with me having watched the whole show since it was, you know, super good, I'll probably end up playing that later as well. Is there a version of that that doesn't look uh...you know?
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MichelBollinger
02/06/20 5:24:35 AM
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Also yes, the VA work is SUPERB. Is that something different between versions as well?

The one thing that's kind of middling so far is the music. It's...FINE, totally serviceable, but not particularly stand out just yet.
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UF8
02/06/20 6:40:35 AM
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MichelBollinger posted...
Not to get ahead of myself, and though Higurashi is a very different situation what with me having watched the whole show since it was, you know, super good, I'll probably end up playing that later as well. Is there a version of that that doesn't look uh...you know?

yes, it had a lot of really exhaustive console compilations since the ps2 era, including ones on ps3/vita and... ps4/switch iirc which all got the same treatment. i'm pretty sure patches exist, at least for the current mangagamer/steam releases
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MariaTaylor
02/06/20 9:04:18 AM
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the original art is superior

higurashi is really good. I recommend it. pretty much every single chapter and scene is written better and conveys more detail while providing more tension than the anime adaptation. and I say this as someone who also liked the anime. it's just really, really worth reading.

the later episodes are a bit more difficult, I'll admit. mostly because they focus around explaining the solutions to the mysteries. and if you've already seen the anime you already know the solutions, so it can feel less interesting.

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Sceptilesolar
02/06/20 11:31:16 AM
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MichelBollinger posted...
The one thing that's kind of middling so far is the music. It's...FINE, totally serviceable, but not particularly stand out just yet.

This will likely change.

Also tag.

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MichelBollinger
02/07/20 6:16:24 PM
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Got my next few games prepped to go. Higurashi (no idea if this is all of them, that episode list is real damn confusing. This is...all the PS3 stuff I think?), Ever17 (had NO IDEA how ancient this was), and Chaos;Head (having just recently beaten Chaos;Child...woops!). Bought World End Syndrome a while ago, about 8 hours into that and it's fine so far, but not drawing me in a ton. Will certainly come back to it.

For now, though, onwards with Umineko!

WOW I did not expect them to just throw all the Beatrice stuff out. She's just...THERE in this in between thing. Figured they would hold onto that one for a bit. And then the second tea party....there's like a whole group of witches? Not what I was expecting at ALL from this.

...How long I gotta play as George...
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KamikazePotato
02/07/20 6:18:05 PM
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Umineko's greatest strength (outside of music, JUST YOU WAIT) is the way it fucks with your expectations.

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Dels
02/07/20 6:25:05 PM
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i agree, i can't imagine how anyone could play with the steam art. i can imagine how they played with the original art back in the day. but the ps3 art is just way better. and some people even played this without voice acting!
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MichelBollinger
02/07/20 6:26:47 PM
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I mean, I've seen the sprite through osmosis, but figured it was a super late thing??

Also I am SO CURIOUS as to why the episode listing is:

1
2
3
4
5-8

If this is just a screen space thing I need someone to tell me now.

As for the music, I mean I really like the OP, and the episode 1 ED was already enough of a banger to raise my expectations for the future.

https://youtu.be/YGLSZ2Lm588

A little disappointed to see the Umineko anime isn't streamed anywhere, was looking forward to seeing how bad it was after I was done.

To think, all these years one of the only things I remembered was "the OP was super good at least", only to have now found out it's just a cut down version of the actual game OP.

https://youtu.be/LCIgS258PA0

Going to be real dissapointed if the Higurashi OP turns out to have been the same, lol.
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MichelBollinger
02/07/20 6:29:32 PM
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Dels posted...
i agree, i can't imagine how anyone could play with the steam art. i can imagine how they played with the original art back in the day. but the ps3 art is just way better. and some people even played this without voice acting!


Battler in the Steam screenshots looks like a random rapey dude from Bible Black. I would absolutely rather use the hilarious original.

So the other versions have no VA? Would say that's nuts, but I guess that's only because I've experienced how good this VA work is. On the other end, not only does Fata Morgana not have voices for the entire main game, but I feel like it would be worse if it did, and that's my #1 easily.
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MariaTaylor
02/07/20 6:39:15 PM
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Dels posted...
i agree, i can't imagine how anyone could play with the steam art. i can imagine how they played with the original art back in the day. but the ps3 art is just way better. and some people even played this without voice acting!

I don't like voice acting in games. I'm a fast reader, and it just annoys/distracts me. at worst it can't be skipped and slows down the pacing to a level that I can't tolerate with my short attention span.


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KamikazePotato
02/07/20 6:43:33 PM
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Yeah Umineko with VA seems like it would take FOREVER to get through.

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MichelBollinger
02/07/20 6:46:05 PM
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I'm not actually listening through the entire line read, unless it's dialogue I really want I hear. I still skip once I finish reading. It's still a very noticeably excellent cast regardless. EVERYONE is on point.

Hell, somehow I'm even managing to get through all the Uwu Uwus without getting annoyed by it!

In particular, I'd say Eva stands out as the character that I cannot even IMAGINE existing without voice acting. I know she's been almost nothing but a total bitch thus fur, but for whatever reason she's one of my favs.
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LeonhartFour
02/07/20 6:47:10 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
Yeah Umineko with VA seems like it would take FOREVER to get through.

yeah there's really no point in sitting through until every line is read if you don't speak Japanese so I just skip ahead in VNs that have voice acting

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MichelBollinger
02/07/20 6:58:05 PM
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George's inner dialogue in this intro is....questionable at times. Starting to wonder if he's OK...
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KamikazePotato
02/07/20 7:02:40 PM
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I'm struggling not to react to your character impressions because even something simple like "oh, my favorite character is..." could be rightfully interpreted as spoilers, so I'll just say these reactions are fun to read.

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MichelBollinger
02/07/20 7:07:34 PM
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Lol, yeah I absolutely no that feeling from years of reading Danganronpa topics.

I don't think there's any particular weak spots so far, maybe the old lady I haven't bothered to remember the name of yet, but it's not like I dislike her. Active dislike...mayhe Gohda? I don't see a world where he suddenly becomes rad, I absolutely see a future where he becomes a huge piece of shit.

My favs so far are Battler, Eva, Kyrie, and Jessica. I have my fingers crossed for future Genji badassery.
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MichelBollinger
02/07/20 7:19:06 PM
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Oh, and Kanon seemsike a real obvious standout of "don't really care about this character at all right now, have no doubt he's going to blow up hard later".
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MichelBollinger
02/07/20 7:27:29 PM
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Now that I am paying attention to the actual scenes in the intro the second time around since I have context...

What the fuck??
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Sceptilesolar
02/07/20 7:47:21 PM
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MichelBollinger posted...
To think, all these years one of the only things I remembered was "the OP was super good at least", only to have now found out it's just a cut down version of the actual game OP.

It's not, actually. Both are sung by Akiko Shikata, and both feature Italian in the lyrics, but are different songs.

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MichelBollinger
02/07/20 8:00:00 PM
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Yeah realized after the intro played again right after researching that. It's just very evocative of it.
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MichelBollinger
02/07/20 9:16:19 PM
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Man what the fuck.

This bitch is just eating cookies RN.
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MichelBollinger
02/07/20 9:26:42 PM
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I feel like I had a highly innacurate idea of where this was gonna start going.

...Or maybe I didn't??

"Don't make fun of my food analogies".
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MichelBollinger
02/07/20 10:14:53 PM
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Kanon what the FUCK are you wearing.
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MichelBollinger
02/07/20 11:01:50 PM
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Jessica what the FUCK are you wearing.
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Sceptilesolar
02/07/20 11:16:20 PM
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It is a Touhou reference.

If that doesn't clarify anything to you, welcome to the club.

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MariaTaylor
02/07/20 11:19:25 PM
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lol

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MichelBollinger
02/07/20 11:24:23 PM
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It does not directly, but I was absolutely going to mention that the song she sang sounded like Tohou music, which I listened to a lot of in high school with zero actual context for the franchise.
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MichelBollinger
02/07/20 11:28:07 PM
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George what makes you think you can pull off literal dog tags, you asshole.
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MichelBollinger
02/08/20 1:18:01 AM
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Hmm, soooo is there a catalyst for the small changes in the timeline here? I thought it was just dialogue we didn't get before at first, but the Rosa in the rose garden scene is definitely different. Maybe something I just don't know yet? Wanna make sure it wasn't something I missed.
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MichelBollinger
02/08/20 1:26:25 AM
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Bruh
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Dels
02/08/20 1:53:32 PM
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MichelBollinger posted...


Also I am SO CURIOUS as to why the episode listing is:

1
2
3
4
5-8

If this is just a screen space thing I need someone to tell me now.


i'm not really sure what you mean but yes there's 8 episodes. 5 to 8 aren't special. must be a "screen space thing" with whatever you're looking at.
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MichelBollinger
02/08/20 2:15:04 PM
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Yeah, 5-8 all listed as one executable on the episode select. Maybe it just a sub folder. I assumed it was a space thing first, but then like 5 menu option got added after episode 1 which take up way more real estate than that would, so it made me wonder.
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MariaTaylor
02/08/20 4:24:18 PM
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1-4 are umineko
5-8 are umineko kai

I would speculate that you're on the umineko title screen, and selecting 5-8 will take you to the umineko kai title screen? maybe? seems a bit clunky but it makes some semblance of sense.

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MichelBollinger
02/08/20 6:34:13 PM
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That's a goat.

That's a goat man.
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MichelBollinger
02/08/20 6:36:10 PM
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Laser blades???
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MichelBollinger
02/08/20 6:40:22 PM
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*Teleports behind you*

Nothing personal, kid.
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Sceptilesolar
02/08/20 6:44:55 PM
#42:


MichelBollinger posted...
Laser blades???


MichelBollinger posted...
Oh, and I did watch the Friday Night Fisticuffs of the fighting game when it aired, which....I am certainly interested in seeing how something like that could come to be.


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Drakeryn
02/08/20 6:45:14 PM
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MichelBollinger posted...
That's a goat.

That's a goat man.

MichelBollinger posted...
Laser blades???

yesss
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MichelBollinger
02/08/20 6:47:14 PM
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I meant it to be subtle, but I refuse to let a second pass without my nothing personal kid joke not being recognized as a goat pun.

I am sure this is a very original joke that no other Umineko player has ever made.
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MichelBollinger
02/08/20 6:51:29 PM
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This chick really has 7 stabby bitches at her beck and call and couldn't give them any god damn pants.
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MariaTaylor
02/08/20 7:36:38 PM
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MichelBollinger posted...
I meant it to be subtle, but I refuse to let a second pass without my nothing personal kid joke not being recognized as a goat pun.

I am sure this is a very original joke that no other Umineko player has ever made.

I actually haven't heard it before, and it did amuse me

MichelBollinger posted...
This chick really has 7 stabby bitches at her beck and call and couldn't give them any god damn pants.

all true warriors know that pants just get in the way


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MichelBollinger
02/08/20 7:41:43 PM
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These Battler/Beatrice scenes.

I am eagerly awaiting the point when they somehow manage to make this not Battler looking like a stubborn idiot.
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KamikazePotato
02/08/20 7:44:30 PM
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MichelBollinger posted...
This chick really has 7 stabby bitches at her beck and call and couldn't give them any god damn pants.
https://i.imgur.com/ufu18P3.jpg
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/0/40/5288766-8%20gwenp3a.jpg


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MichelBollinger
02/08/20 7:45:48 PM
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Oh I shoulda finished that one before making the post.
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MichelBollinger
02/08/20 7:49:33 PM
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https://youtu.be/7L_T0CCdx0s

Ayeeeeee now that's more like it!
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