Board 8 > Glacier VGM Ranking Round 2 [RANKINGS]

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Flamander
02/05/20 2:44:19 PM
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After 8 months, it's finally here. The ranking thread.

So when I put down the thread, I believe I said a lot of information about scores and so on. I'm not going to be making this information public, at least for now. I don't have too much faith in whether I really made the right scores for some songs. Anyways - here's what you need to know: tracks are roughly in what I would consider to be the right order; although they're not exact. I believe there's about a 5 track area of error. The other piece of info you need to be made aware of: my taste in music has changed a lot over the past 8 months. This is why I state there's a 5 track area of error. Some tracks I did closer to the start of the 8 months, some I did later. What else....

Right - just like last time, there's tiers we get to go through. Exactly nine, although there's some exceptions to the rule we'll see in due time. With that said... it took a long time for me to rank this and put it together and despite having ranking notes, I'll be typing these posts up on the fly. So considering that, I hope you enjoy this thread.

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NFUN
02/05/20 2:49:21 PM
#2:


whar nominations

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Flamander
02/05/20 2:54:08 PM
#3:


Alright, so let's sta-

[DISQUALIFICATIONS]

But I wanted to ra

[DISQUALIFICATIONS]

...ok...

So the following tracks are given the rank of DIS:

Anagram | Metal Gear Solid V | Here's To You | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0xUl_VRCmM
Anagram | Metal Gear Solid V | The Man Who Sold The World | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWCoDpwvWo0

I'm not ranking the same song twice. You got my opinion of what the song was, and I believe it's too soon to give it a re-rank.

This means we have our first drop from the ranking!! Anagram didn't even get a song ranked, both of their songs ended up ranked as DIS. Don't consider this a 0, because I rated these songs last contest and found them fine. Consider this an 'inapplicable'.

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Flamander
02/05/20 3:07:17 PM
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Now, let's start ranking for real!

TIER 9 - THE SEWERS
Tier Description: The bottom of the bottom. Songs in this category typically fall prey to both subjectively bad sound design and composition. Songs near the top of this tier aren't so much bad as just unlucky enough to be here.

RANK 148

Ape Escape 3
Banana Heartbreak (UK Version)
paulg235 [4/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrYDescefzw

ouch my ears. This song feels too smooth and it feels like the singer is being... too melodic? Like they're constantly lifting the end of every line and that irritates me. The last 30 seconds are even worse because the then somewhat bearable smoother synths get thrown out for this crunchy guitar that drowns out anything but the singing.

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xp1337
02/05/20 3:08:48 PM
#5:


i have an embarrassing question

did i nominate for this. i think i did but i don't remember. like i'm 99% sure that i have noms to be ranked in some project but it feels like it's been a long time so this matches up but i don't know >_>

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NFUN
02/05/20 3:10:51 PM
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NFUN posted...
whar nominations


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Flamander
02/05/20 3:13:08 PM
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RANK 147

Street Fighter Alpha 2 Gold
Sakura Theme
Raetsel_Lapin [4/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPgCfmvWCkY

As a massive fan of Street Fighter music, everything from Alpha to 3 to EX to 4... I'm used to hearing Sakura Kasugano's theme. This is probably the worst rendition I've heard. All the instruments feel BRIGHT and GLOSSY, like they're in a staring contest with you and not letting up. The base composition is fine enough, though.

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pyresword
02/05/20 3:13:09 PM
#8:


I also have no idea if I nominated for this or not but would prefer to be surprised.
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Flamander
02/05/20 3:22:29 PM
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xp1337 posted...
i have an embarrassing question

did i nominate for this. i think i did but i don't remember. like i'm 99% sure that i have noms to be ranked in some project but it feels like it's been a long time so this matches up but i don't know >_>

Unfortunately, you didn't. Sorry!

RANK 146

Devil May Cry
Evil Vacuum
Snake5555555555 [4/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQABIILCfuo

I have a feeling I may have ranked this song higher if I didn't listen to it earlier on. It's worth stating I listened to every track three times - I randomly picked each track to listen to. In other words, it's taken a while. My taste has changed some since I accepted noms and I think while this track wouldn't have necessarily have gotten in another tier, I believe it would have gotten a few ranks higher based on its sound design alone.

It's very dark and industrial and gaseous and that's exactly the sort of sounds i like to listen to ALTHOUGH melodically it's still not great. I wouldn't listen to this on a regular basis. Using non-musical adjectives to describe music can be fun!

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NFUN
02/05/20 3:24:43 PM
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xp1337 posted...
i have an embarrassing question

did i nominate for this. i think i did but i don't remember. like i'm 99% sure that i have noms to be ranked in some project but it feels like it's been a long time so this matches up but i don't know >_>
me, probably

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xp1337
02/05/20 3:26:21 PM
#11:


Flamander posted...


Unfortunately, you didn't. Sorry!
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Flamander
02/05/20 3:30:51 PM
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RANK 145

La-Mulana 2
Muspell and Niflheim
GameBopAdv [4/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rxZaTFHu8w

Last contest, someone nominated a La Mulana 2 track and not much of a surprise that one got low either. I don't like the sound design! It completely murks up the melody of the track and then I can't get into it because it feels like the whole song is clashing! It's weird. I like the instruments, I just dislike how they're mixed.

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xp1337
02/05/20 3:32:34 PM
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NFUN posted...
me, probably
I actually doubt that. If I saw a 1000 song project or whatever you're doing I'd instantly evaluate it as DOA and skip it. ...unless i got drafted in late to help get the number reach wherever you wanted then maybe.

I could just be mistaken!

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Flamander
02/05/20 3:36:50 PM
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RANK 144

Pathologic 2
Gnossienne III
Snake5555555555 [3/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0QHI-KK-zo

So, apparently this is an Erik Satie cover? I like Gymnopedie No. 1... this, I don't like as much. I don't like slow warbling piano. Like. The mental image I get from this song is that feeling of lightheadedness you get after having a nosebleed. It just isn't a pleasant song to listen to. If I could describe the values behind exactly why I dislike this, I would - but I don't know them.

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Flamander
02/05/20 3:46:35 PM
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RANK 143

Soul Calibur VI
Azwel's Theme
GavsEvans123 [4/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rtGzrtUjdk

ok first off. never send me extended uploads if you can help it. second off - this is more generalized, but make your tracks shorter pleaseeeeeeeeee. i've had to deal with so many 5+ minute uploads this ranking, and next time i rank [whenever that may be] i'm probably just gonna do one listen because of this.

that said, this is actually really good to get lost in. i just. don't like how it's composed. very slow. not great to actively listen to but. i think this is like. the bar for what i'm considering 'decent' this ranking.

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Flamander
02/05/20 3:52:18 PM
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RANK 142

Fragile Dreams
A Dedication to...Everyone
pyresword [4/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkdsW9dBMtE

Slow piano playing usually isn't my sort of thing, but this is cool I don't mind it. Like Azwel's Theme - it's very good background listening although I wouldn't listen to it actively. Very tranquil. The only reason it's so low is I usually just don't listen to 'atmospheric' music.

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Flamander
02/05/20 3:56:55 PM
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RANK 141

We Know The Devil
Incense (Smoke & Honey)
Snake5555555555 [2/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb83zpkAIg8

Taking last ranking into consideration, I have to assume me and Snake don't have entirely compatible palettes of taste. It's weird. I like harsh noise type music like ZX Spectrum beeper stuff when I'm prepared for it but then I encounter music like this where it feels like it's supposed to be environmental and ambient and instead it's very squealy and glitchy which honestly I think is a pretty bad combination.

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Flamander
02/05/20 4:00:19 PM
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RANK 140

KGB/Conspiracy
Gorbi
Collen [4/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCIte-fvfWI

This music is VERY spacy and in retrospect that's probably what I dislike about it. It's spacy and it feels too predictable. It ALWAYS does this clockwork loop that admittably I love [the robot speech is also pretty novel] but it just constantly changes between these two patterns and I feel like I'm waiting.

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cakophon
02/05/20 4:00:43 PM
#19:


glacier is there a public list of nominations
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Flamander
02/05/20 4:03:33 PM
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RANK 139

Extermination
Level 1 & 2 Lab Research Areas
Snake5555555555 [1/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR5Hps_5phc

This is pretty alright. I like the sound design, it's ambient as all heck. Again, this is something I wouldn't normally listen to. This is more of that 'dazed and confused' type of music that I referred to when I typed up Gnossienne III.

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pyresword
02/05/20 4:05:40 PM
#21:


I did nominate for this!

I wonder what else I nominated though because I clearly wasn't picking songs with the expectation of them doing well in a Glacier ranking.

Also boo that song is so good.
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Flamander
02/05/20 4:08:07 PM
#22:


cakophon posted...
glacier is there a public list of nominations

I hadn't made one, so I whipped one up quick.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lKYslavVFmh-T3TOVwvTpbHnYIrzsvKQ2I0slhYT8DY/edit?usp=sharing

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cakophon
02/05/20 4:08:52 PM
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Flamander
02/05/20 4:15:17 PM
#24:


cakophon posted...
thank you :)

no problem. :]

RANK 138

Parasite Eve II
Pick Up The Gauntlet
Snake5555555555 [ELIM]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8_T_oyKVYg

This track sounds like that trick you do where you make a sound by hooking your finger around the inside of your mouth then popping it out. Very drony. DANGER music.

All of Snake5555555555's tracks have been eliminated! This means he has been eliminated from the rankings entirely. His lowest song was RANK 146 [Devil May Cry - Evil Vacuum], and his highest song was RANK 138 [Parasite Eve II - Pick Up The Gauntlet]. He was eliminated at Tier 9 - The Sewers.

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Snake5555555555
02/05/20 4:18:29 PM
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At least I got eliminated in a tier that sounds like a horror track I would nominate.

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Flamander
02/05/20 4:20:06 PM
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RANK 137

Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon
Abyssal Badlands
pyresword [3/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD2UX63M1mM

OK, here's the first song where I think I'd probably have made a significant change. This was another early rank. The melody is alright and the sound design is much better than I thought it was - but then again, maybe that's because I've shifted to liking this type of music in recent times. I honestly believe it deserves a place in Tier 8 more than it does here.

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Flamander
02/05/20 4:25:27 PM
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RANK 136

Xenogears
The Sky, The Clouds, and You
Haste_2 [4/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb3wPZrpxus

I'll come clean. I should have probably ranked this lower. It feels too cheery, I like stuff that's not... sad? But threatening. 'Stressful situation' music, I guess is a way to put it - but not so much in the horror sense. This feels like music for a peaceful village where nothing can go wrong - I don't like how it SOUNDS.

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Flamander
02/05/20 4:28:33 PM
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RANK 135

LittleBigPlanet 2
The Factory of a Better Tomorrow
Pablo Smith [2/3]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvcL7bDvcPA

This song shares a trait with the rank below it - specifically that it sounds like it could play in an old cartoon. I tend not to like music like this? It feels 'industrial', though - mainly in the percussion and vocal elements - so I like it a bit more than if it didn't have those elements.

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Flamander
02/05/20 4:31:41 PM
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RANK 134

Senritsu no Stratus
To Smear With Blood
Mac Arrowny [4/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM-T9CyoG9k

This feels like sports drink advert music. Like I can imagine this playing swerving around a can of Monster or something like that while a deep voice goes 'POWER ENERGY YOU HAVE THE FORCE OF GOD WITHIN YOUR HANDS'

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Flamander
02/05/20 4:34:51 PM
#30:


RANK 133

Super Danganronpa 2
Beautiful Days [Piano Arrangement]
Snowva [4/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mESVTvnIVnw

Back to calm piano music. It's hard to state much about this. I've stated what I think about what this song does with tracks like A Dedication...To Everyone and Gnossienne III. The difference is just this track appeals to me better. It might be because it feels like it's softly swinging. Adds a lot of value.

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Flamander
02/05/20 4:39:14 PM
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RANK 132

Touge Max/Peak Performance
BGM 6
UF8 [4/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB44POyYMBk

I feel bad that this track is as low as it is. If it had better sound design where literally everything didn't sound like some variant of guitar and really harsh then it could probably get up to Tier 8, because I like the melody. Because it has that sound design though, it kind of wears on repeat listens. There's not a lot of depth to it, in my opinion.

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Flamander
02/05/20 4:43:18 PM
#32:


RANK 131

Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne
Staff Roll
Pablo Smith [1/3]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVDnpOcVr5Y

oh it's persona. I love the guitar riffs in this. This is honestly the track I've tried and listened to the most because it's just. so chill. right before the guitar solo about halfway in and it's hard to stick to that point. deep guitar riffs like this always elicit emotion in me especially when there's a lot of contrast..

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Shonen_Bat
02/05/20 4:46:49 PM
#33:


Oh, I did nominate... One song, heh. Hope it does well, from what you said it sounded like a good pick.

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Flamander
02/05/20 4:47:26 PM
#34:


RANK 130

Star Control 2
Spathi Theme
NFUN [4/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTzNT8cWivo

jackal queenston - rubber band. reminds me of hotel mario music what. WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW. leaves a big impression. in my ranking notes i said this wasn't my sort of thing but lol this is good. would likely also be a tier 8er if i ranked it more recently. i'm kind of falling back into more casual glacier mode now that the first tier's nearly over. only a few more songs left.

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Flamander
02/05/20 4:51:28 PM
#35:


RANK 129

Soda Drinker Pro
Watch Out / So Bright Sometimes
Place [4/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lx2uAD35EI

this is going down a rollercoaster and getting hit in the face by a stop sign kind of music which is an oddly specific kind of feeling to get from this song but. it's very grindy and flangy and trippy that's what i'm trying to get across here. lots of weird vocal clips.

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Flamander
02/05/20 4:54:12 PM
#36:


RANK 128

The Red Strings Club
Machine Learning
kaonashi [4/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41Q9WBO9xvU

oh nice! we have enough for a tournament. very spacy but not in the proggy way i like. it's more of a sound design edm kind of space which... is fine but it's not something i'd rate highly.

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Flamander
02/05/20 4:58:03 PM
#37:


RANK 127

Gran Turismo 4
(Call Me) Super Bad Parts 1,2 & 3 (Gran Turismo Pop Rox Remix)
Place [3/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QmgkTjWjQE

funky remix but also there's omega delay on a lot of stuff and they specifically make space for the delay which trips me out. not sure if i like it or if i dislike it. middle ground. this is the last song of this tier!!

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NFUN
02/05/20 5:02:18 PM
#38:


lol why did i only nominate amiga songs

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Flamander
02/05/20 5:05:17 PM
#39:


TIER 8 - THE SLUMS
Tier Description: This tier contains songs that are alright in both sound design and composition but they're ultimately missing something that I WANT from that song.

RANK 126

Hollow Knight
Pale Court
pyresword [2/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCYP9L2FfQg

ooooooooooo clockwork i like clockwork. i've played through hollow knight but not to this point i think. last i left off on i was obsessed with the flower quest and didn't want to NOT get 100% which nowadays seems a lot more impossible. whenever i return to the game i'll probably just settle for beating it and call it a day.

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Flamander
02/05/20 5:07:58 PM
#40:


RANK 125

Yogurting
Always
Arti [4/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR8Po7CJGNw

yogurting is a stupid name for a game or a vn. i don't know which this is. feels like a very poppy opening which it probably is? this game/vn is korean looks like. so, k-pop i guess. not my thing but alright

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Flamander
02/05/20 5:12:39 PM
#41:


RANK 124

Stardew Valley
In The Deep Woods
Baconus_Yum [4/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL-c6SuyG8A

very 'exploratory'. honestly, this is around the point where i can start actually 'attaching myself to the tracks' instead of pontificating on why i dislike it. in rtvgm this point would be the equivalent of a 4. i have stardew but i never play it i assume this track plays in the woods like the title says. it's very good at capturing that feeling. waltz!

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Flamander
02/05/20 5:16:32 PM
#42:


RANK 123

The Sky Crawlers: Innocent Aces
Final Duel
rwlh [4/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_szPvIB3Y4A

this is an ace combat spinoff, right? it sounds like ace combat music what with the heavy use of orchestral instruments and choir vocals. like it's trying too hard to be dramatic. ir's alright but doesn't really do anything i like. worth saying that around this point we've gotten to songs that total up to 10 points [out of 20] as a score

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Flamander
02/05/20 5:18:28 PM
#43:


RANK 122

Final Fantasy XIII
Blinded By Light
cakophon [4/5]
https://youtu.be/Th2jeYakyAY

this track is good because it has the sharp strings that go 'DOOM, DOOM, DOOM. DOOM-DOOM-DOOM' and those make the track 10x more interesting for me. the moment those go away i lose all interest in the song

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cakophon
02/05/20 5:20:39 PM
#44:


i was gonna say "hey im doing well" but i guess not too much

Flamander posted...
this track is good because it has the sharp strings that go 'DOOM, DOOM, DOOM. DOOM-DOOM-DOOM' and those make the track 10x more interesting for me.

this is also one of the best parts of it for me :)
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Flamander
02/05/20 5:21:57 PM
#45:


RANK 121

Atelier Rorona: The Alchemist of Arland
The Ancient Tree's Beat
Arti [3/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZrUqNaul00

i have this down in my notes as sparkly, idyllic and peaceful and yeah that sounds about right. more 'town music'.

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pyresword
02/05/20 5:24:01 PM
#46:


Flamander posted...
ooooooooooo clockwork i like clockwork. i've played through hollow knight but not to this point i think.

Well, Pale Court doesn't play in-game and only appears on the OST, which apparently I either didn't care about or decided was allowed by whatever rules you posted at the time. (Which is a shame. Probably my favorite Hollow Knight track and it isn't VGMC eligible)

It is somewhat similar in style to White Palace however, which does play near the end of the game. (And only on the path towards what I guess would be the good ending)
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02/05/20 5:25:10 PM
#47:


RANK 120

Dead Or Alive
Superstar (Bass)
paulg235 [3/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-iUcHFhaiQ

this track does that sort of direct colorful sound design i like but in the wrong direction i think. the best analogy i have is to like... 90s anime bgm. just generically.

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Flamander
02/05/20 5:29:08 PM
#48:


RANK 119

The Prince of Persia: Sands of Time
The Tower of Dawn
GavsEvans123 [3/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKwbptphnVU

this feels like sand yes this is DESERT music but western desert music. like. how an arabian nights type scenario would look through the eyes of the west THIS IS WHAT PRINCE OF PERSIA IS. so i guess it's achieving its goals.


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Flamander
02/05/20 5:32:19 PM
#49:


RANK 118

DanceDanceRevolution (2014)
Destination
deogenerate [4/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpfQ2ycnUnI

i described this music in my rank notes as 'man who has no arms' music which i think is a really funny observation looking 8 months in the past. it's a real 'shaker' of a track. like i can imagine a figurine popping and locking to this extremely fast.

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02/05/20 5:35:09 PM
#50:


RANK 117

Nemurenu Mono-tachi e
Nakigara
Mac Arrowny [3/5]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSihWTE7QW4

This is extremely trance-y. Like a lullaby. Feels like i'm shifting between 1000 layers of the world with every movement i make. Each step a different vision. vaguely zts-y.


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