Board 8 > Eff 2019 Mafia: Topic 9 - Dany Kind Of Forgot About The Iron Fleet

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

If those are votals then lol guess Scum just wins this game jesus

I take this back.

If I get lynched, Ben just gets lynched next day, and Death after that.

If MZero gets lynched, Ben just gets lynched next day, and Death after that.

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So han you think ben/death is viable?

For Puns to be Scum, Scum would have had to intentionally no-kill the night after not having a kill.

If puns and sbell were among the last scum, they might have been desperate to do a sacrifice play.
Sbells BP claim still makes no sense when he knew it would be countered.

Do I think Puns has to be scum? No.
But I am not calling him confirmed town.
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Disregard my question lol

Not going to lie, as I stated I have been thoroughly confused by the Han/Ben/MZero triangle. I've changed my mind on them a lot.

But if I think about each of their actions in the context of 'are they the role they claim' - one of their actions stands out as not making sense.

And that's MZero.

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Just like you arent calling me confirmed town for some reason while Sultan is.
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turbopuns3 posted...

Could you please?

I found the game less engaging as time went by.
There were times where I felt like the outcome was a given (lynching Hb) which made me less engaged.
I was straight up wrong about Hb, which is demoralizing.
I had real life shit to do, especially today.
I decided to start drawing last Saturday and have been spending a lot of time doing that.

htaeD posted...

Just like you arent calling me confirmed town for some reason while Sultan is.

I'm not calling Sultan confirmed Town. You're just acting like Scum who is desperate, and not Town in the slightest.

If Puns is Scum, then that means that they intentionally forced themselves to have to get an additional mislynch. That's flat-out dumb. Puns is not Scum. He is practically confirmed Town.

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Interesting post from the day before mass

TotallyNotMI posted...

I am very unconvinced we should lynch Han or Ben today.

In 17 you need more than 1 investigative role.

We had a cop.

Both Han and Ben role kind of suck for investigation. If all we had was cop and one of them, we are lacking. If all we have is cop and both of them, I still think we're lacking.

I think they could be town together. We have 2 ML left. I'm worried scum is going to be pushing to Lynch one of them today. They flip town. Tomorrow they push to lynch the other.

MI have your thoughts about this changed at all

That's definitely something that still worries me, tbh.

I kind of think out of MZero/Ben/Han there is one and only one scum

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Oh this is not me being desperate, this is me trying to figure things out and considering every angle.
Puns is not even my main concern, but your posts do remind me that I am probably just being too cautious in this regard.
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##Vote: MZero

If I double vote it looks like I hammer so I'll try to keep an eye on here in case I need to be a deciding vote.

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Han and Ben and Red all existing would have made for a great combo of results though.

Im also just still annoyed that you, Han, made such bad (in my eyes) actions.
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Like holy shit

MI followed that up with this

TotallyNotMI posted...

I think I'm opposed to a mass still BUT if anyone else is an investigative role my above thoughts would probably change and you have 3 nights of information that would be helpful.

And MZero posts on that same page just a little ways down and like, just asks MI who is scummier based on play between Han and Ben

why are we lynching MZero when I have basically a guilty scan on Ben?

w/e

lynch ben and he flips Scum and I get nightkilled

pls

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htaeD posted...

Han and Ben and Red all existing would have made for a great combo of results though.

Im also just still annoyed that you, Han, made such bad (in my eyes) actions.

your eyes are clearly bad then

I'm out, byee

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Powerwise Mzero is definitely stronger than Ben and Han. He could fill both their shoes at once. But Ben and Han are not scum together I feel. I guess a lot of people will echo that thought.
The only teamup of those 3 that I can accept as scum is Han and Mzero really.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

your eyes are clearly bad then

I'm out, byee

Opinions opinions
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Okay 1. I am so tired
2. Puns made a damn good point and now I cant sleep
3. Han also made a good point, even if I am more about voting him than Ben.

What if Mzero does flip scum, what does this say about Han or Ben? Did scum really visit Mzero last night?
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turbopuns3 posted...

Like holy shit

MI followed that up with this

And MZero posts on that same page just a little ways down and like, just asks MI who is scummier based on play between Han and Ben

Do you take from this that MZero was hinting that he was invest?

Or dinging him for not responding to having three nights of info?

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I'd pick the latter.
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I Guess I Kind Of Liked The Way You Numbed All The VOTALS:
[3] MZero - puns, Sultan, MI
[2] Han - Ben, Death
[1] Ben - Han, (Sultan)

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch! Day ends at 9 PM CST tonight (55 minutes from now)!

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@MZero11
@benjamin3740

kinda important for you to be here
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Then again at this point It probably comes down to me, since Mzero will vote Han just to survive and Ben will not unvote Han because Han called him scum.
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(because Han didnt even vote Mzero, which is just bizarrely brave or suspect)
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No wait, doublevoter MI
duh
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So while I am talking to myself, I might as well go to sleep since I cant affect anything either way and I am no longer sure if Mzero is a better target or not. Nor do I want to hammer the day early.
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Like

You are a scanner with 3 scans in your pocket

Aside from yourseld there are 3 people who have not claimed and you have already scanned 2 of them

Not to mention there are 2 other people kind of being the center of attention for being similar-ish investigative roles

It is being discussed that maybe we should mass claim

The Quadvoter is saying multiple times if anyone has 3 nights of info they should speak up

How and why on earth would you not come forward and say let's same time.

MI may be gone by now actually

fuck
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Mzero is gonna make me wait for his answer isnt he?
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and after all that after going into night unclaimed you scan...the miller?

?_?

I cant even get into your arguments without giving Mzero sentences to use for his own defense
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I'm keeping an eye on things as best I can.

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Ugh, you convinced me to do at least this.
Since a tie would be even worse

##Unvote
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I'm fine with killing Mzero. There's no other partner for Han. Only way Mzero flips town is if there's 4 scum and MI is like third party. And if Mzero and Sultan are the team, this would cover that. Though I don't think Sultan is scum in any world

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But I am at the end of my latin.
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Bens logic is scarily assuring.
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But yeah Han and Sultan as scum doesnt make sense either.
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htaeD posted...

Bens logic is scarily assuring.

Unlike Han, I'm in a pretty confident mood since I've been consistently slaying scum since day 2

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Well then I guess I am neither needed or even effective at the moment, so ciao.
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I cant say I would be held back by Mzero's use to town. If he is town, he'd be the very next to get NKed anyway.
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##unvote

my feelings are not changed in theleast but as deadline is approaching and I'm still rereading things I just get anxious so for now

MZero said this to ben

(still the same day-before-mass)

MZero11 posted...

I don't think it's impossible you're both town, just pretty unlikely, and I think you've been scummy anyway. To put it another way, I wouldn't even consider lynching Han right now, but if you flipped town psychic, I would consider it, but I wouldn't blindly tunnel him. Especially in a potential MyLo situation. To answer your question, it's possible!

Hmmmm

Tbh i never feel good with Miller claims but Death is pretty solidly town at this point right?

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Good morning I haven't caught up but I'm here what happened >_>

turbopuns3 posted...

Like

You are a scanner with 3 scans in your pocket

Aside from yourseld there are 3 people who have not claimed and you have already scanned 2 of them

Not to mention there are 2 other people kind of being the center of attention for being similar-ish investigative roles

It is being discussed that maybe we should mass claim

The Quadvoter is saying multiple times if anyone has 3 nights of info they should speak up

How and why on earth would you not come forward and say let's same time.

This is exactly why I didn't claim. I was against mass claiming and if I claimed Sultan and Corrik would have had to as well, which would basically be a mass claim. I also had a 2/3 chance of outing the doctor (and now we know I would have), and scum probably kills Corrik that night instead of no kill. So I stand by my decision not to claim

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I care more about you speaking to #392 MZero

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To Ben's credit he was on sbellthe day before mass happened (HB lynch)

TotallyNotMI posted...

I care more about you speaking to #392 MZero

What about it? I was still unclaimed so I didn't want to make it too obvious I was an investigative role, and I had a strong town read on Han and a fairly strong scum read on ben

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FINAL UPDATE:
[2] MZero - (puns), Sultan, MI
[1] Han - Ben, (Death)
[1] Ben - Han, (Sultan)

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch! Day ends at 9 PM CST tonight (10 minutes from now)!

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##Vote2: MZero

Here's hoping.

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Cutting it close jeez. I feel like I should stay on Han since i know he's scum so...

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