Board 8 > Eff 2019 Mafia: Topic 1 - 30 to 50 Feral Hogs

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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Idk like i said she had me really confused..

But why were you confused? Id like you to explain.
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Idk man been a long day going to go to bed before o start making less sense then i already do... but im still sold on the Blade vote will see if that changes when i wake up

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Meow1000 posted...

Lea are we quickhammering me y/n

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]



To anawer your question before i go to bed... this in response to that

Read it as no but dont tell blade so he feels some pressure

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Like it makes no sense like youre talking to blade he is gonna know

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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Like it makes no sense like youre talking to blade he is gonna know

That....

That's the joke

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Am I the only one That read that as a clear joke from Lea because the question was stupid anyway.

I get the impression that either Han or Blade is scum because of the way they were talking just came across as so petty and pointless. It just made me think that at least one of them was basically wasting time just to ultimately end up at ok lets not waste anymore time on this and drive a town train moment. Im more suspicious of Blade than Han at this point because Blade seems intent on focusing on what seems like pointless day 1 waffle and Han wasnt the first time Blade has been posting but not really contributing.
red seems a little suspicious to me because this seems more like his post style in the wwe mafia I think it was. Except much more volume because he isnt afk at Disney as much this time.
Corrik is doing his following the leader thing instead of his abrasive town play where he tries to find scum be being a jerk to everyone and losing any sway he had.
I think puns is way too smart and experienced to give himself if he was scum by overreacting to a joke post on page 1.

Thats about all I have so far because nothing anyone else has done has really pushed me to a read either way at this point.

see like i said need to go to bed that joke went over my head... alright leaving forreal this time

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I dont like how Sultan stated he was going to bounce as soon as hb asked him a question or that he is making a big deal out of the Lea joke.

Sultan, if you're going to bed, why are you still posting?

Don't respond to this. If you say you're going to leave for a bit, commit to that.
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5tarscream posted...

red seems a little suspicious to me because this seems more like his post style in the wwe mafia I think it was. Except much more volume because he isnt afk at Disney as much this time.

Hey now, if we are playing Friday and somehow I'm alive I'm going to Disneyland at like 5 in the morning and I'll be there for some unknown period of time(And when I get home I'm going to immediately go to bed.

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Oh god its happening again. Red is Disney afk scum confirmed.

5tarscream posted...

Am I the only one That read that as a clear joke from Lea because the question was stupid anyway.

I get the impression that either Han or Blade is scum because of the way they were talking just came across as so petty and pointless. It just made me think that at least one of them was basically wasting time just to ultimately end up at ok lets not waste anymore time on this and drive a town train moment. Im more suspicious of Blade than Han at this point because Blade seems intent on focusing on what seems like pointless day 1 waffle and Han wasnt the first time Blade has been posting but not really contributing.
red seems a little suspicious to me because this seems more like his post style in the wwe mafia I think it was. Except much more volume because he isnt afk at Disney as much this time.
Corrik is doing his following the leader thing instead of his abrasive town play where he tries to find scum be being a jerk to everyone and losing any sway he had.
I think puns is way too smart and experienced to give himself if he was scum by overreacting to a joke post on page 1.

Thats about all I have so far because nothing anyone else has done has really pushed me to a read either way at this point.

5tarscream posted...

Am I the only one That read that as a clear joke from Lea because the question was stupid anyway.

I get the impression that either Han or Blade is scum because of the way they were talking just came across as so petty and pointless. It just made me think that at least one of them was basically wasting time just to ultimately end up at ok lets not waste anymore time on this and drive a town train moment. Im more suspicious of Blade than Han at this point because Blade seems intent on focusing on what seems like pointless day 1 waffle and Han wasnt the first time Blade has been posting but not really contributing.
red seems a little suspicious to me because this seems more like his post style in the wwe mafia I think it was. Except much more volume because he isnt afk at Disney as much this time.
Corrik is doing his following the leader thing instead of his abrasive town play where he tries to find scum be being a jerk to everyone and losing any sway he had.
I think puns is way too smart and experienced to give himself if he was scum by overreacting to a joke post on page 1.

Thats about all I have so far because nothing anyone else has done has really pushed me to a read either way at this point.

This is the first post concerning me that I have flat out disagreed with, so let's have some fun.

Han calls me (and Red) scum, completely out of the blue. Han gives no reasons for any of this.

I call him out on this, he makes up some mason thing and calls even more people scum.

I call him out on making up the mason thing, and he retracts it, but doesn't change his supposed reads at all.

I push him again, and he calls me angry (Han knows what I look like when I'm angry, so again, he's making it up), but still doesn't give any specific reason for calling anyone scum, not even Red.

And you say I'm the one not contributing in the interaction?

This is almost certainly scum if Han is scum.


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red Is Disney live action remakes of 2019. Doing the exact same thing with the hopes of equal or bigger pay off than the first time. Probably.

So let's cliffnotes your first post further:

You're saying a guy who came out of the blue, called four people scum, but never given a single palpable reason to call any of them scum, and has done virtually nothing other than parrot this, is actively contributing to the game in a meaningful manner.

And attempts to actually make him legitimately contribute are "not contributing"

I kinda want to murder both of these two right now. I don't even care which first.

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Ok yeah let's not get too reactive early on day 1 or I'll burn out super fast.

But yeah the more I look at that post the less actual content I see in it. The comments on Red and Corrik are beyond pointless. The comments on Han and I are fluffy and leave us both open to lynch. The Puns part is the most concise of all of it.

Oh fuck it.

##Unvote
##Vote: 5tarscream


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Didnt he say he didnt like them/their posts that to me suggests more of lean or suspicious than an outright calling them scum like youre claiming.
I guess we have different views on contributing, you asked about the mason thing, then you had a debate what does and doesnt contribute everyone, then a brief discussion about vote formatting. Then a debate about what game of Maria it was that had fake masons and then a conversation about quitting because you didnt like towns play.
You can claim thats trying to draw contributions from others to me it seems like being active and saying nothing.
Other than Han is scum because he thinks you are but didnt post enough content to convince you that your scum, and that Im scum because I think youve been visible but not active.
What other reads has your activity produced that I may have missed?

My problem with the Blade lynch right now is that, despite there being 5 votes on him, there are only 2 real reads on him: Han's and Sultan's. Chris's stated reasoning is following Han's Day 1 read skill, Lea is following Chris as per usual, and Scare is being lazy early game and also following strong early-town players. as per usual. Sultan has also been fairly vague on his reasoning and I've never been good at following his thought process (and he's being dodgy with the questions) so we'll return to him later.

Han's vote is more concerning to me, as not only is it fairly vague itself, it's also dipped in personal bias. Stuff like "lynching Blade is always pro-town" seems to be both focused on emotional appeal over logical appeal, and to be the kind of sentiment that leads to shit like the Ulti quickhammer. Normally, I have more faith in Han's reads, but this does not look towny to me at all.

Also, we aren't doing any quickhammers this game. They are inherently pro-scum.
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It's like you're focusing on only the most superfluous, pointless things both Han and I said to each other and completely ignoring anything that mattered. I have given reasons for my suspicions. Han has not done this. Han has done little but point a finger at me, namedrop other people, and completely waste our time today. He's already set himself up a variety of places to jump if my lynch doesn't work. It's either lazy play or it's scum play, and it's probably the latter.

Did you like, completely ignore me calling three people scum for three entire pages before I learned the mason thing was a joke? Or saying Hb is probably town in less than two pages because of the way he poked at Puns. Puns gave off annoyed scum vibes early on, though specifically calling him BP was mostly a joke.

Dude did you even read the game or did you just jump right into defend scumbuddy mode.

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Hbthebattle posted...

My problem with the Blade lynch right now is that, despite there being 5 votes on him, there are only 2 real reads on him: Han's and Sultan's. Chris's stated reasoning is following Han's Day 1 read skill, Lea is following Chris as per usual, and Scare is being lazy early game and also following strong early-town players. as per usual. Sultan has also been fairly vague on his reasoning and I've never been good at following his thought process (and he's being dodgy with the questions) so we'll return to him later.

Han's vote is more concerning to me, as not only is it fairly vague itself, it's also dipped in personal bias. Stuff like "lynching Blade is always pro-town" seems to be both focused on emotional appeal over logical appeal, and to be the kind of sentiment that leads to shit like the Ulti quickhammer. Normally, I have more faith in Han's reads, but this does not look towny to me at all.

Also, we aren't doing any quickhammers this game. They are inherently pro-scum.

Nah it's just Sultan. There's a chance Han is doing what he did in that game he mentioned and being biased town but his play so far is not pro-town.

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Meow1000 posted...

Nah it's just Sultan. There's a chance Han is doing what he did in that game he mentioned and being biased town but his play so far is not pro-town.

Yeah, I can agree to that. With that in mind, 5tar's post makes less sense as well.
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5tarscream posted...

Corrik is doing his following the leader thing instead of his abrasive town play where he tries to find scum be being a jerk to everyone and losing any sway he had.

Who have I followed exactly?

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Corrik has just been fairly passive. Nothing else of note.

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Which part doesnt make sense and maybe I can be clearer about it?

Hbthebattle posted...

Yeah, I can agree to that. With that in mind, 5tar's post makes less sense as well.

The biggest question I've asked myself so far is does scum Han come at me like this.

5tar's opening post is a barely veiled collection of fluff that isn't actually paying much attention to the game. Half his commentary is meaningless drivel - He gives both Red and Corrik a line to say absolutely nothing.

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5tarscream posted...

Which part doesnt make sense and maybe I can be clearer about it?

The part where you said I am following people. Who exactly am I following again?

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Meow1000 posted...

5tar's opening post is a barely veiled collection of fluff that isn't actually paying much attention to the game

This. It reads like he skimmed the game. Which, maybe as town he does this, but generally town should be reading deeper to try and find clues or reads. Not just skimming to say you read it.

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red13n posted...

Corrik has just been fairly passive. Nothing else of note.

Corrik has been shockingly passive so far.

Corrik7 posted...

Who have I followed exactly?

I'd like to see this answered too.

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You followed hb because you think his reads are good. You also said in the interest of co-operation that you wont push against a blade lynch when you stated hes reading town to you.

Oh good lord I just noticed it's 1am I told myself I wouldn't do this on day 1

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By the way Corrik why have you been passive so far anyway

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If you think blade is absolutely town then why would you not try to make a case for your opinion when hes the vote leader?
How is not helping town to see why you think a lynch is wrong pro-town?

I think blade is scum more than I think Han is scum. I also said I have suspicions on red and you Corrik. I have nothing solid yet which is why I havent voted for anyone yet. Im not sure what concrete nailed on scum reads you expect me to have based on the posts so far.

5tarscream posted...

You followed hb because you think his reads are good. You also said in the interest of co-operation that you wont push against a blade lynch when you stated hes reading town to you.

So, if I am correct, I am following HB because he made a joke post about Puns and voted Puns, with to my knowledge at no point a HB vote on puns. Also, with a post from like 2 others in this game listing like 3 other people who supposedly were thinking puns is scum also? Correct?

Read post 83, 110, 111, 112 for reference since the quoting system sucks now.

And, I am following people by saying I won't actively try to derail town by arguing incessantly against the lynch til the end of time if town decides upon one? Who am I following in that scenario???

Do you still believe these 2 scenarios are me following people?

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Meow1000 posted...

By the way Corrik why have you been passive so far anyway

Corrik has always played passively.

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To be a little fair, I originally misread his line on Corrik as not actually giving any sort of read on him at all.

Yeah I'm going to bed.

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5tarscream posted...

If you think blade is absolutely town then why would you not try to make a case for your opinion when hes the vote leader?
How is not helping town to see why you think a lynch is wrong pro-town?

I think blade is scum more than I think Han is scum. I also said I have suspicions on red and you Corrik. I have nothing solid yet which is why I havent voted for anyone yet. Im not sure what concrete nailed on scum reads you expect me to have based on the posts so far.

Read my post again. Read what you asked again. Do you feel these line up?

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Corrik7 posted...

HB probably makes the best reads in b8 mafia so he has my sword.

Maybe this was made in jest and I missed it but it seemed to me like you were following hb. Not the vote, I know that wasnt serious but the fact that you said he has the best reads in mafia made me think you were willing to follow him later if he made a more serious read.

5tarscream posted...

Maybe this was made in jest and I missed it but it seemed to me like you were following hb. Not the vote, I know that wasnt serious but the fact that you said he has the best reads in mafia made me think you were willing to follow him later if he made a more serious read.

Who has better reads than HB?

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Corrik7 posted...

To play nicely, if the powers deem Blade to be the lynch today, I won't scratch and claw against it just to try and push my own reads. We have to work together in order to defeat the evil set upon us.

I can see your point but it just didnt sit well when I first read it, when youre usually super abrasive in an I think this and your all morons if you dont agree kind of way.
Ive not seen you be a team player before

5tarscream posted...

I can see your point but it just didnt sit well when I first read it, when youre usually super abrasive in an I think this and your all morons if you dont agree kind of way.
Ive not seen you be a team player before

Corrik has always been a team player.

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Back to work. See you all in about 3 hours

5tarscream posted...

I get the impression that either Han or Blade is scum because of the way they were talking just came across as so petty and pointless. It just made me think that at least one of them was basically wasting time just to ultimately end up at ok lets not waste anymore time on this and drive a town train moment. Im more suspicious of Blade than Han at this point because Blade seems intent on focusing on what seems like pointless day 1 waffle and Han wasnt the first time Blade has been posting but not really contributing.

Do you think they can both be scum?

5tarscream posted...

red seems a little suspicious to me because this seems more like his post style in the wwe mafia I think it was. Except much more volume because he isnt afk at Disney as much this time.

vote red with me it'll be fun

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5tarscream posted...

Back to work. See you all in about 3 hours

You'll see me but everyone else will probably be asleep, Asia buddy

I hope to see a red vote when you get back!

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I'll be here til 5am est. But, I have nothing to contribute really.

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5tarscream posted...

Which part doesnt make sense and maybe I can be clearer about it?

Here's my first question: Why are you suspicious of Han? Your reads seem to line up with his near-exactly. It looks to me like you were trying to push Han's opinion without actually looking like you were following him. Can you explain?
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##Vote: 5taring so he doesn't "forget" to answer me when he gets back
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Oh jeez the format for that looked ugly let's try this again
##Vote: 5tar
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Formatting votes is driving me crazy without the old text formatting.

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Anyway, Mzero, I'd like to hear your thoughts on red.
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And vice versa from red on Mzero, too
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red13n posted...

Formatting votes is driving me crazy without the old text formatting.

Why didn't you revote puns after your formatting fail?

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