Current Events > Joe Rogan: Forced Diversity Will Be Embarrassing in Retrospect

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuMh6NjxuHg



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Can we just admit that Joe Rogan is alt-right already?

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Joe rogan is alt right but pretends he isnt

Have tc tagged with JRE fetish

XD
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It's already embarrassing

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The alt right cheerleader strikes again

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Unsugarized_Foo posted...

It's already embarrassing

came in here to post this.

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I haven't seen the video but the sentence alone?

yeah it's already embarrassing

Throwing token minorities into stuff for no other reason than filling a quota isnt inclusive it's just weird writing
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Michael Malice said that, not Joe Rogan. Lying in the topic title just to get more clicks.
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Yep when people like Joe Rogan realize it's worth complaining about they will be embarrassed that they made an issue out of it. It's a huge nothing burger that only exists in their head.

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What's an example of forced diversity
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Darmik posted...

What's an example of forced diversity

well a great example of good forced diversity is removing segregation in schools back in the civil rights era
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Darmik posted...

What's an example of forced diversity

I'd say the textbook one would be the Postman Pat reboot

It's set in a quaint English village in the countryside of buttfuck no where with a population of like 97

Yet the families living in the cottages are like an Asian family, a lesbian couple, an Indian family, a Muslim family etc

it doesn't make sense

if that's the story you want to tell, set it in New York or in a bar or hospital where you will get a diverse stream of people
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Joe Rogan is embarrassing now. He is the philosopher to the uneducated.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

I'd say the textbook one would be the Postman Pat reboot

It's set in a quaint English village in the countryside of buttfuck no where with a population of like 97

Yet the families living in the cottages are like an Asian family, a lesbian couple, an Indian family, a Muslim family etc

it doesn't make sense

if that's the story you want to tell, set it in New York or in a bar or hospital where you will get a diverse stream of people

Who forced the writers/producers to do that?

Why does it bother you that a cartoon aired in a multicultural country about a postman who drives with a cat has a diverse cast?
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The video title implies that it's not Joe Rogan that said that, why would you lie in your topic title TC?

I'm sure forced diversity is so common nowadays that even five examples would be very easy to list for the naysayers here.

But of course they won't, because they're cowards.

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Guide posted...

I'm sure forced diversity is so common nowadays that even five examples would be very easy to list for the naysayers here.

But of course they won't, because they're cowards.

Postman Pat and his black and white cat is the best example ever.
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Alt-Right Icon, Joe Rogan

Darmik posted...

Who forced the writers/producers to do that?

No idea. Presumably whoever pays for the production of the show

Why does it bother you that a cartoon aired in a multicultural country about a postman who drives with a cat has a diverse cast?

It doesn't. I don't watch the show. You just asked for an example.

Don't switch horses.

Just watched the video and they listed examples

Frozen 2 on ice having a black dad, Chinese mom, then Chinese and white kids who grow up to be White

People angry Witcher 3 didn't have black people

Gods of Egypt or whatever other was called staring Norwegians

Reoccurring theme seems to be when you have characters or casting that don't make sense for the point of diversity, that's embarrassing

And I don't see much of an argument against that to be honest
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Darmik posted...

What's an example of forced diversity

Vivian James
The CIA guy in Black Panther

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Darmik posted...

Who forced the writers/producers to do that?

Why does it bother you that a cartoon aired in a multicultural country about a postman who drives with a cat has a diverse cast?

They weren't talking about government forcing diversity, they were talking about producers forcing their SJW diversity politics into things and also appeasing the woke twitter mob. The main examples brought up:

The Frozen play, where the father is black, the mother is asian, kid Anna is asian, kid Elsa is white, and grown up Elsa & Anna are both white. Just makes no sense...

A popular video game set in medieval Europe (they didn't give the title) and people on twitter complained there weren't enough black people.

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Guide posted...

I'm sure forced diversity is so common nowadays that even five examples would be very easy to list for the naysayers here.

But of course they won't, because they're cowards.

They listed 3 in the video

I listed 1

So you already have 4

For a 5th, why not A Winkle In Time where the director literally fielded negative criticism by saying the movie is a "movement " and needs to be successful because it has a diverse cast to push diversity in future films.
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Tenlaar posted...

The video title implies that it's not Joe Rogan that said that, why would you lie in your topic title TC?

spudger posted...

Have tc tagged with JRE fetish

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UnfairRepresent posted...

No idea. Presumably whoever pays for the production of the show

How is that force?

UnfairRepresent posted...

It doesn't. I don't watch the show. You just asked for an example.

And it's hilarious. I mean I'd say it's more farfetched for New Yorkers to know their postman than an English town having minorities.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Reoccurring theme seems to be when you have characters or casting that don't make sense for the point of diversity, that's embarrassing

Who is being forced to do that again?
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Vivian James
The CIA guy in Black Panther

I'll do you one better, who is Angel Hernandez.

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Just want to get this straight.

Forced Diversity is both when a thing has minorities and people think that isn't right and when a thing doesn't have minorities and people think that isn't right.
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"Forced diversity" a.k.a. "Why are there minorities and homosexuals in the main cast?"

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I would say forced diversity is encapsulated by people that think like this: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/whiteness-toy-story-4-1266176

Darmik posted...

How is that force?

Because it doesn't make sense?

Darmik posted...

And it's hilarious. I mean I'd say it's more farfetched for New Yorkers to know their postman than an English town having minorities.

It's not a town

Darmik posted...

Who is being forced to do that again?

I dont think you're comprehending this.

"forced diversity " means they forced diversity into the plot/casting/setting

not that the creators of the project are slaves being forced against their will to create things they dont want too.

If you want an example of that, look at when Tamagochi life (sp) tried to stop having gay marriage in their life simulator game
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UnfairRepresent posted...

For a 5th, why not A Winkle In Time where the director literally fielded negative criticism by saying the movie is a "movement " and needs to be successful because it has a diverse cast to push diversity in future films.

I remember people getting pissed that movie had a diverse cast because people wanted it to be white performers playing white characters even though races weren't mentioned in the book?

And a black woman making a movie filled with women of different colors in hopes that more and more movies start showing more and more people from different backgrounds doesn't seem that bad does it?

Because, again, wasn't the main pushback for that movie people complaining that minority performers were portraying race-neutral characters?

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Solar_Crimson posted...

"Forced diversity" a.k.a. "Why are there minorities and homosexuals in the main cast?"

No one got mad Will Smith was in Men In Black or that K was gay

If you rebooted Men In Black, set it in the 1930s and then made every member of the organisation a different race and gay/bi/a fury , it would be forced and embarrassing
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UnfairRepresent posted...

No one got mad Will Smith was in Men In Black or that K was gay

If you rebooted Men In Black, set it in the 1930s and then made every member of the organisation a different race and gay/bi/a fury , it would be forced and embarrassing

Wouldn't an MiB style organization dealing with forces from beyond our tiny planet be exactly where you would be most likely to find diversity in the 1930's...? Why would people trying to protect the world from aliens be focused on racial differences?

UnfairRepresent posted...

It's not a town

Postman Pat is set in the fictional village of Greendale and the nearby town of Pencaster, on the border between Cumbria and North Yorkshire.

Greendale is a big, busy village situated in the heart of the Cumbrian countryside. Running through the centre of the village is the High Street, home to Mrs Goggins' Post Office and shop, an unofficial meeting house for the residents. Located on the edge of the village is the railway station, home to the Greendale Rocket. Nisha Bains runs a popular caf there with Sara while her husband Ajay runs a regular schedule on the Greendale Rocket to the nearby town of Pencaster. In the original series (1 and 2), Greendale was much smaller and presented a gentle pace of lifestyle. It had winding roads, along with the trademark bridge, and a smaller population, which allowed Pat plenty of time to enjoy the countryside as he passed through, or even stop on 'quiet' days to have a picnic.

Pencaster is a large, bustling, modern town located within easy commuting distance for the villagers of Greendale. Situated on the waterfront, Pencaster is a hive of activity, boasting a market square in the centre surrounded by shops, houses, a large railway station, state-of-the-art buildings, and a boat jetty. It bears some resemblance to Lancaster, the county town of Lancashire, which likewise is a short commute from Longsleddale, the area used as the inspiration for Greendale.

Why wouldn't minorities and gay people live there again? Does it bother you that the Count lives in Sesame Street too?

UnfairRepresent posted...

"forced diversity " means they forced diversity into the plot/casting/setting

And the examples given so far are;
- An English show for 3-5 year Olds
- An ice skating show for 3-10 year Olds
- A video game with a fantasy setting
- A movie that just plain had minorities
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Not replying to the video, but the race bait:
Brown v Board was 1954
Star Trek came out in 1966

Diversity has been a topic in literature for centuries, though not always as apparent.

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But you used an example of a rebooted children's show that is using a fictional small ass town to show, again CHILDREN, the current diverse landscape of their country.

You can't use a "Well a reboot in this time it wouldn't have worked because x, y, and z" when your previous example does the reverse and still maintains accuracy.

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unfairrepresent talking about european countries is always a treat

UnfairRepresent posted...

No one got mad Will Smith was in Men In Black or that K was gay

K was not gay.

Or did I miss something in MIB 3?

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Solar_Crimson posted...

"Forced diversity" a.k.a. "Why are there minorities and homosexuals in the main cast?"

AKA a company attempting to appear progressive by hiring a quota based on superficial aspects like race/gender and not on merit

Or throwing in a gay kiss scene by two background characters that will be easily cut out later for the chinese market like the last Star Wars movie.

Unsugarized_Foo posted...

It's already embarrassing

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I think it is how they go about going explaining the diversity. For example, the Batwoman suit scene, the MiB:I "Men in Black" scene, the Doctor Who upgrade scene. They aren't explained to get you to care and be invested, they are explained with a quip that is meaningless.

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Darmik posted...

And the examples given so far are;
- An English show for 3-5 year Olds
- An ice skating show for 3-10 year Olds
- A video game with a fantasy setting
- A movie that just plain had minorities

Well as long as you don't care about any of the examples that must mean no one is allowed to.

Kastrada posted...

But you used an example of a rebooted children's show that is using a fictional small ass town to show, again CHILDREN, the current diverse landscape of their countr

village

Tenlaar posted...

Wouldn't an MiB style organization dealing with forces from beyond our tiny planet be exactly where you would be most likely to find diversity in the 1930's...? Why would people trying to protect the world from aliens be focused on racial differences?

Case and point

This would be embarrassing
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Phewfus posted...

AKA a company attempting to appear progressive by hiring a quota based on superficial aspects like race/gender and not on merit

Or throwing in a gay kiss scene by two background characters that will be easily cut out later for the chinese market like the last Star Wars movie.

How does one implement that with merit?
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Phewfus posted...

AKA a company attempting to appear progressive by hiring a quota based on superficial aspects like race/gender and not on merit

Or throwing in a gay kiss scene by two background characters that will be easily cut out later for the chinese market like the last Star Wars movie.

That is an issue where companies see it as marketing solely with no regards for the communities involved.

But people also default to "TOKENISM! FORCED DIVERSITY" whenever anything involves minorities getting a role. Halle Bailey getting the role as Ariel and people flipped their shit saying this wasn't based on talent even though she's a good actress and can sing her ass off.

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Kastrada posted...

That is an issue where companies see it as marketing solely with no regards for the communities involved.

But people also default to "TOKENISM! FORCED DIVERSITY" whenever anything involves minorities getting a role. Halle Bailey getting the role as Ariel and people flipped their shit saying this wasn't based on talent even though she's a good actress and can sing her ass off.

Sounds like your problem here is semantics rather the actual point raised
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Well as long as you don't care about any of the examples that must mean no one is allowed to.

Does anyone else think Postman Pat should be set in New York to have minorities?
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