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AvantgardeAClue
01/03/20 1:34:32 PM
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That buzzsaw is so fucking OP lol

I think I couldn't get into it at first because its menus are a little overwhelming and some options require some searching

I also like how everyone online is either hyper competent and friendly or completely oblivious to it all

What's the benefit to keeping hostages again? The police still zerg rush me from time to time

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DarthAragorn
01/03/20 1:34:58 PM
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I really wish I had people to play it with on PC because it is very fun
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Jagr_68
01/03/20 1:36:08 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
What's the benefit to keeping hostages again? The police still zerg rush me from time to time

If one of your boys is killed/arrested, you can exchange a hostage for your teammate.

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Tmaster148
01/03/20 1:37:40 PM
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Hostages can be traded to get teammates who got capture when out of an assault phase.

It was pretty fun til I stopped playing. But I really hated how they did the difficultly rework.

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squee
01/03/20 1:41:21 PM
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One perk deck and a few skills in the middle mastermind tree benefit from hostages
Can be traded if one of you go into custody too
Hostages delay the time of the next assault wave (except under specific circumstances), cops will try to free them too, slowing the cops down.

My advice is not to play on Overkill (or higher) until you know the maps and have a lot of levels and a good build worked out (dodge with rogue perk deck or heavy armor with muscle/armorer perk deck as preference). Mayhem isn't that bad but benefits from a meta build and some maps require a lot of awareness. Deathwish is were meta starts mattering and isn't as fun imo. Death Sentence is just pointless to me.

Most of the game can be summed up as: get medkits/medbags (depending on your build), grab a meta skill, ave fun
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ViewtifulJoe
01/03/20 1:41:27 PM
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There's a perk where the whole team gets 0.5 damage reduction for every hostage up to 8. Hostages can be used as meat shields but it's kinda finnicky, you can trade them for people in custody.

You can convert up to two hostages each to fight for you and there are skills to either give them a little more damage or some insane health/resistance buff that turns them into effective distractions to divide enemy fire. There's also that skill that makes you regen either 1% or 5% of your health every 5 secs as long as you have a convert.

Hostages are god tier. Do not listen to the corrupt ways of the Wick/Sangres/Dallas/Joys.

That buzz saw is anything but OP how have you come to the idea that it is?

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squee
01/03/20 1:43:41 PM
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Hey Joy is waifu
So is Clover.
So is Sydney.

You can only get hostages that are cops to fight for you and they still need the joker skill. Never saw much use in the damage reduction tbh, I didn't notice it
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ViewtifulJoe
01/03/20 1:49:38 PM
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On One Down the ZEAL friends need a minute or two to melt your defence boosted converts and if you're playing the objective that's really valuable time. On OVK/Mayhem they can last ages.
They're a great part of any "No don't shoot me kill my teammates instead" kit with flashbangs, dodge skills, dodge perk deck and whatever else.

Having regular people as hostages allows you to go over the 8 hostage limit since it comes down to how many there are and how many cable ties there are which at least serves to divide the enemy attention again since some of them will spend time trying to rescue them instead of shoot you. I think it also gives you a slightly longer break in between waves.
There's also this priority list for trading hostages. Regular civs are the top, hostage cops in the middle and converted cops are last, it's always nice to have one ready so the game doesn't make you trade away a convert and force you to get another.

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Hexenherz
01/03/20 2:40:18 PM
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I played the hell out of that game when it came out and then stopped playing and tried to get back into it and was totally overwhelmed with all the builds, plus all the new scenarios and shit. And I don't know the meta for the maps.

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AvantgardeAClue
01/04/20 2:43:12 AM
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A friend said shotguns in general are better than rifles and I think he's right

Ammo management is way less painful that's for sure; don't even feel like ammo bags are required anymore

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Divinehero
01/04/20 2:49:13 AM
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iirc taking hostages slows the start of at least the 1st assault phase provided the heist doesn't start in that phase

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AvantgardeAClue
01/04/20 3:14:23 AM
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Divinehero posted...
iirc taking hostages slows the start of at least the 1st assault phase provided the heist doesn't start in that phase

That's weird because I do remember a later assault phase being delayed because of it

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Divinehero
01/04/20 3:18:37 AM
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yea it probably delays the start of all assault phases but it's been awhile since i played

also i feel obligated to post this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjnJk5V9nSM

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Tmaster148
01/04/20 10:43:13 AM
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Unless they changed it. Payday 2 shotguns have each pellet do the gun's damage. Only one pellet is counted per an enemy hit. But means you can easily do a lot of damage to a swarm of enemies and get easier headshots.

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Hexenherz
01/04/20 10:53:55 AM
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So are ya'll playing on PC? How many different scenarios do they have now >_>

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DarthAragorn
01/04/20 1:20:32 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
So are ya'll playing on PC? How many different scenarios do they have now >_>

I have it on PC

There's a lot of different heists with the ultimate edition or whatever
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solosnake
01/04/20 1:23:06 PM
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I think i got this for free a few years ago but never played it

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Hexenherz
01/04/20 2:33:49 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
I have it on PC

There's a lot of different heists with the ultimate edition or whatever
o shit
I might have to reinstall tbh. I was pretty high level back in the day but I'm sure there's more shit now.

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Hexenherz
01/04/20 5:12:16 PM
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Man a new safehouse what the hell. I have $252 mil in the offshore account but I bet that's nothing now. And they reset all my skill trees >_>.

I am having video issues though, it doesn't auto-lock to 60 fps with my TV so I'm getting video overrun it's kind of annoying.

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im not 13
01/04/20 5:21:30 PM
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Could never get into it

Was too attached to L4D

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Hexenherz
01/04/20 6:49:04 PM
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jeesz they added so much to this, people had teddy bear saws and I was taking blood from some sick guy and analyzing it for virus content and shit >_>

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Divinehero
01/04/20 6:54:39 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
jeesz they added so much to this, people had teddy bear saws and I was taking blood from some sick guy and analyzing it for virus content and shit >_>

iirc that 1 was a pd1 heist it was a l4d crossover iirc it implies the PD gang is responsible for the outbreak that is central to l4d 1&2's "story"

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