Current Events > Reylo's are the most Toxic fans of Star Wars. Not Anti-SJW dude bros(spoilers)

(+) Yeah! (+)

For years people have been talking about these close to alt-right people were the toxic people in Star Wars..but not it is these female(most) fans who are in love with fucking Kylo. It is crazy, this fucker abused Rey emotionally and physically for 2 1/5 movies and they think he is just the best. Normally get irked about, but here are these assholes getting upset that Star Wars children book said when people call you nothing, that you can come to your real friends for support. I will talk about their racist views of Finn later on, but for some reason this really just boiled my noodles.

https://twitter.com/virgorens/status/1209837384835182592

---

Is it any different then the people who think Joker and Harley Quinn make a good couple?

---

Yeah Iunno how

"You're no one. You mean nothing. But not to me"

Can be seen as a romantic statement

Creepy shit

---

For Joker and Harley Quinn most of those people it seems like they don't really know the relationship for those two.

---

Doom_Art posted...

Yeah Iunno how

"You're no one. You mean nothing. But not to me"

Can be seen as a romantic statement

Creepy shit

It's "romantic" if you have no self esteem and you're emotionally vulnerable as fuck. Like those people who stay in toxic relationships because they believe their partner when they say "No one else would ever love you" or something like that.


---

I like their "relationship" in an "it's fun to watch and analize" kind of way, and I think Kylo Ren is a really interesting character, he's probably my favorite non-Vader villain in the movies.

But anyone trying to claim it's a good or healthy relationship in any capacity, that's.... yeah, no. Fuck that.

---

They're the fan base that Star Wars deserves.

---

Nah, there are definitely worse and way more toxic fans than the ones that ship Rey and Ben...

---

rexcrk posted...

Nah, there are definitely worse and way more toxic fans than the ones that ship Rey and Ben...

Like how, they are literally upset that a book said lean on people who are supportive to you.

---

cjsdowg posted...

Like how

U srs?

---

For how toxic everyone claims the Fandom Menace is, I've seen way more toxicity from rabid Reylo fangirls tbqh

---

Okay I think it's time we all stop talking about Star Wars for a while lmao
---

Wait.

People romanticize that scene in TLJ? Thats a thing? Please say its not.

Then again people think Joker and Harley Quinn are relationship goals so... of course people think that.

Romance has never been a strong suit for this series

1. the scene is not and was not meant to be romantic
2. was this little book made before rise of Skywalker?

---

i remember seeing something involving rey/kylo fans hardcore stalking adam driver and threatening his wife saying that he should leave her and be with daisy ridley irl

---

SSJGrimReaper posted...

i remember seeing something involving rey/kylo fans hardcore stalking adam driver and threatening his wife saying that he should leave her and be with daisy ridley irl

Yeah, I heard about this too but I don't know *for sure* if it happened.

---

There have been equally as problematic ships in the past, and there will be equally as problematic ships in the future. What matters is what the fans make of it.

I absolutely agree that Kylo Ren spent all his time playing mind games, and he intentionally and repeatedly tried to instill fear and hate in her while actively gaslighting her about her parents. It's a bad relationship, and it's messed up that people find that dynamic romantic.

But keep in mind that people shipped Zutara in Avatar: The Last Airbender well before Zuko started his redemption. That scene in Book One where Zuko is holding Katara hostage with the pirates, and dangling her family necklace in front of her to get her to betray the Avatar? I've heard people unironically call that scene romantic, because Zuko says "I'll save you from the pirates". It's not an out of the frying pan into the fire situation, it's romantic because Zuko said he'd save her.

I think the reason people ship characters like pre-redemption Zuko and Kylo Ren is because people like a bad boy. He's dark, he's brooding, he treats you like shit but there's something soft there that people want to coax out of them. That dynamic alone sums up Reylo, but it's the rough draft of a hundred different problematic ships. It's the pretense of thousands of fanfiction stories where angsty characters hit their SOs for cheap drama. This has existed for longer than Reylo, and it will exist long after.

The worst part about Reylo shippers is that since 2015, they've been emboldened by the flack they get. They've heard time and time again that they're evil and abusive for partaking in Reylo shipping, they've been called disgusting and incestuous because the common thought for years was that Rey is a Skywalker. They've been painted as abusers in the same way pre-redemption Zutara shippers were labelled abusers, and in the same way Kataang shippers from that same show were accused of normalising pedophilia because Aang was 12 and Katara was 14. Mind you, this discourse was happening when I myself was 12 years old, shipping those two characters. It's batshit insane, the degree that people subscribe to functional pairings and actively attack other people based on their ships.

Here's my take on Reylo, as someone who's engaged in similar disparaging rhetoric against a similar ship in the past. The people who are invested in it are most likely not neo-nazis, white supremacists or abusers - all labels that have been ascribed to Kylo Ren, and two of them ascribed to the First Order as a whole. They are likely indulging in misplaced fantasies of angsty boys treating someone like shit, because pain and suffering is deep and it's meaningful to inflict pain on others, and other stupid dogshit like that. These people are most likely teenagers who will snap out of it as they continue to grow up and regret being a part of the Reylo ship.

But they will not stop enjoying this ship because self-righteous people call for the death of it, because people cry out that it's warping the minds of its shippers. This is something they will grow out of 9/10 times, but you can't force that because they'll feel victimised, double down on it to "fuck the haters" and become more reactionary to defend themselves and their personal interests. Seriously - I've been there, I've seen it happen in other people. This is not new.

People didn't stop shipping Zutara because they were painted as abusers, they doubled down on the aspects they feel were justified and began attacking the self-righteous "haters" who tried to paint them as bad people for shipping it. The Twilight fanbase didn't stop liking Twilight because people characterised the central relationship as abusive, and characterised the young, teen girl demographic as vapid idiots who would grow up to let men slap them in the face because they committed the cardinal sin of enjoying Twilight over "better" or "healthier" literature - and I say this as one of the self-righteous shitheads who engaged in the Twilight hate mob. It's still dumb and gross in parts, but the people who enjoyed it growing up haven't been so crippled by one media franchise that they're actively seeking out men to batter them because that's what they think true love is. Frankly it's just an entertaining footnote now, and there's nothing wrong with liking something like Twilight for the sum of its parts.

Reylo is merely the next iteration of this fandom moral panic. It harkens back to 2015 where Reylo was slagged for romanticising a Nazi, romanticising abuse and engaging in incest - because Rey was clearly a Skywalker, it's so obvious that she's a Skywalker, that would make her and Ben cousins, how could you etc. It also harkens back to when people asserted that their headcanon about Rey being gay was clearly the case, and argued that Reylo was homophobic. Reylo copped a metric fuckton of flack for a bunch of bigger-picture stuff that ended up amounting to nothing, and now only one pillar of its backlash remains - that it's abusive.

Zutara was abusive. Bella and Edward was an abusive relationship. No-one gave a fuck, people built on the foundation of its better points and used it as a force for good. I thought it was stupid, and I also thought it would only embolden potential abusers and such, but people who stuck with Zutara and people who lived and breathed Twilight have come out the other side still breathing, and surprisingly they're not irrevocably warped to believe that emotional and physical pain are what true love is all about. Some people might be like this, statistically, but just as many people who stayed out of any "problematic" ships at probably affected by that problem.

Anti-SJW fanboys ruin fucking everything. Captain Marvel, Titans, Star Wars, Life Is Strange. Anti-SJW fanboys tried to define what was and wasn't a game during Gamergate, which excluded stuff like visual novels and choose-your-own-adventure style experiences. And they're adaptable - whatever the herd sniffs out this week will be the subject of widespread mocking and hate for "pandering to the ess-jay-double-yous", across anything deemed to be "nerd" media.

I'll agree any day of the week that shippers are some of the most overzealous, combative and unpleaseable people within a fanbase. But it's the backlash against ships like Reylo, the insistence that its practitioners are mentally ill and will only grow to hurt others or be hurt themselves that further embolden the people who like it. They'll work twice as hard to justify their love for it, and they won't get better until they grow out of it themselves - and since 2015, when Reylo shippers were hit the hardest by other Star Wars fans, that has happened. If they're overzealous now, you can probably blame the

Unit7 posted...

Wait.

People romanticize that scene in TLJ? Thats a thing? Please say its not.

Then again people think Joker and Harley Quinn are relationship goals so... of course people think that.

Have you seen the relationship quotes on fb with joker and Quinn pics under them?? Lmao

---

reylos always been gross
---

evil_zombie11 posted...

Have you seen the relationship quotes on fb with joker and Quinn pics under them?? Lmao

Dude, Harley Quinn/Joker is like the biggest dom/sub dynamic on a social networking website which shall not be named. Hundreds of doms have donned shitty facepaint and shelled out for purple clothes, and they post the same shitty Joker quotes all over their user accounts.

Like... how the fuck does someone think that's sexy? Do they think making themselves look like an ironically evil clown from a comic book makes them edgy and mysterious? It just makes you look like a stupid, shitty doofus. They want a girl who'll do everything they say, who they get to shout at and hit because that's something cool that the Joker does. It's pathetic.

---