Poll of the Day > Which of these would you consider the "perfect crime"?

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I'll use first degree murder as the basis of all examples just for the sake of simplicity.

1. The unnoticed crime is one that is covered up so thoroughly that it is never even reported. This could come from falsification of evidence to suggest the murder was a suicide or a tragic accident of some kind.

2.The unsolvable crime is one that is clearly a murder but handled so masterfully that law enforcement can make no meaningful progress in finding the culprit or even any suspects.

3. The pinned crime is one where the true culprit covered their tracks well but also planted convincing evidence implicating a second party, giving law enforcement a clear target and possibly letting them "solve" and close the case.

4. The unprovable crime is one committed in such a way that purposely draws attention to the culprit who then produces an unimpeachable alibi or other evidence. Clearing them and taunting law enforcement simultaneously.

5. The "just" crime is one where the culprit openly admits their involvement but through clever manipulation and guile twist the victim into the villain and gain public support to have their name cleared.

The common perception of the perfect crime would probably be 1. or 2. but which do you like the best?

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Assuming the second party is also an objective to be eliminated (albeit through indirect means), 3 would be the perfect crime. On the other hand, if the second party is just an otherwise innocent bystander, my choice is 1.

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Shadowbird_RH posted...

Assuming the second party is also an objective to be eliminated (albeit through indirect means), 3 would be the perfect crime. On the other hand, if the second party is just an otherwise innocent bystander, my choice is 1.

Hmm... let's say the second party is just someone convenient to pin the crime on like someone with a well known grudge against the victim, a ex-lover perhaps.

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Stop judging, crime is perfect the way it is.

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Murdering an ice cube, there's no evidence.

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Already voted for 3, but under those conditions, I would go with 1.
To be a perfect crime/kill, disruption would have to be absolutely minimal, like a dive with no ripples. Riling up the community, alerting the authorities, even involving a single additional life would be an imperfection.

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No one's gonna post the scene from the Office?

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There was an episode of Alfred Hitchcock Presents in which a woman kills her husband with a frozen leg of lamb, then cooks it and serves it to the police who are searching for the murder weapon.

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captpackrat posted...

There was an episode of Alfred Hitchcock Presents in which a woman kills her husband with a frozen leg of lamb, then cooks it and serves it to the police who are searching for the murder weapon.

I remember reading that story once

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Definitely 1.

2 is a close second though. If your goal is the make a statement, then congrats.

3 is kinda iffy IMO. While you could perfectly pin a crime on someone else, there will always be doubters. Such as those from the pinned suspect family or friends. Though in this case it'd still be closer to 2 for them anyway.

4 is kinda movie/tv villain like. I don't consider that perfect because people will think you did it, they just can't put you away.

And 5 is kinda context based. Like say a raped man or woman kill their rapist, then with a good lawyer or whatever they could turn public opinion in their favor. In that case it's more like righteous justice than a perfect crime.

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Extreme_light posted...

And 5 is kinda context based. Like say a raped man or woman kill their rapist, then with a good lawyer or whatever they could turn public opinion in their favor. In that case it's more like righteous justice than a perfect crime.

Nice analysis but for 5 I meant something like of a woman killing a man and claiming/inventing evidence he tried to rape her to get off on self defense and vilify the guy after his death to add insult to injury.

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5 can be used in something like a bank robbery: turns himself in before it occurs and other people get caught. He could get away with no punishment depending on when he spoke to authorities
https://www.justia.com/criminal/defenses/abandonment/

Depends on the context. Usually a crime that isn't known to be a crime beats an unsolvable one, although unsolvable ones are cooler.

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captpackrat posted...

There was an episode of Alfred Hitchcock Presents in which a woman kills her husband with a frozen leg of lamb, then cooks it and serves it to the police who are searching for the murder weapon.

Thats a roald Dahl story

how about a crime you commit by not existing? You go back in time and prevent yourself from being born, which causes events to change and your worst enemy dies, but, you don't exist, so no crime exists at all.

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Dreaming_King posted...

Nice analysis but for 5 I meant something like of a woman killing a man and claiming/inventing evidence he tried to rape her to get off on self defense and vilify the guy after his death to add insult to injury.

Well in that case it would be pretty smart and somewhat difficult to pull off all the way through imo but it doesn't have that certainty factor of the other 4 crimes. And would probably be the most susceptible to public discourse as well.

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Ignorance is a perfect crime
People get away with it all the time

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What about unfindable.as in the criminals identity and guilt is pretty known but they can never find them. CB or JB cooperi think his name was. Stole a shitload of money highjacked a plane and dived out with a parachute. Was never found.

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mooreandrew58 posted...

What about unfindable.as in the criminals identity and guilt is pretty known but they can never find them. CB or JB cooperi think his name was. Stole a shitload of money highjacked a plane and dived out with a parachute. Was never found.

Hmm that sounds pretty rough unless they plan on leaving the country afterwards since there's always the chance some random guy will recognize them and report them. Committing a crime and not getting caught would be nerve wracking enough since you never know if the police will get a new lead, but knowing they know and can prove it was you would feel awful.

I guess it could be cool for say a prison escape where the guy is a crime boss and has a whole underground/organization to protect and hide him afterwards though.

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Dreaming_King posted...

Hmm that sounds pretty rough unless they plan on leaving the country afterwards since there's always the chance some random guy will recognize them and report them. Committing a crime and not getting caught would be nerve wracking enough since you never know if the police will get a new lead, but knowing they know and can prove it was you would feel awful.

I guess it could be cool for say a prison escape where the guy is a crime boss and has a whole underground/organization to protect and hide him afterwards though.

This guy did get the plane to cross the canadian border before jumpintlg iirc.

On the other thing some guys did escape Alcatraz. Not mob bosses but while belived most likely dead for a long time evidence now suggests they survived and one lived only a short distance from alcatrez. Thats just ballsy cause surely some guards lived in that area.

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