Current Events > Pokemon Company was granted legal permission to track down 4chan/discord leakers

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https://nintendoeverything.com/pokemon-subpoena-discord-4chan-to-sword-shield-leakers/

So basically they're subpoena-ing 4chan and discord to track down IP addresses and other ways to identify people who posted and shared leaks, because the leaks caused "irreparable damage" to their properties.

TBQH this is some scumbag-tier debauchery and it really seems like Pokemon Company is going down a dark path. Honestly, their mishandling of Sword and Shield's development/marketing is what caused irreparable damage, not fucking leaks. Every Pokemon game leaks ahead of time, and they always sell millions. Nuff said.

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It's still illegal. It doesnt matter if every game does it, its GameFreak's game and they have every right to prosecute those who leak their product.

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Only one of the leakers broke NDA right? The rest just took the leaks and showed them around right?

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Maybe they should try using the untold billions they've made to improve their game?

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I don't see it as a scumbag thing at all. If you want to leak stuff you aren't supposed to you need to be prepared to face the consequences. I don't give 2 ****s about pokemon or it's leaks, but just talking in a general sense. Doesn't matter if leaks happen in everything now days, I don't have a problem with companies trying to fight back. Imagine you worked your ass off on creating something for years and years, and some ass comes and leaks everything before you can show it yourself.

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PrideOfLion posted...

Should've made a good game so the leaks would get people hyped

Sword and Shield are good games.

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closetkpopfan posted...

I don't see it as a scumbag thing at all. If you want to leak stuff you aren't supposed to you need to be prepared to face the consequences. I don't give 2 ****s about pokemon or it's leaks, but just talking in a general sense. Doesn't matter if leaks happen in everything now days, I don't have a problem with companies trying to fight back. Imagine you worked your ass off on creating something for years and years, and some ass comes and leaks everything before you can show it yourself.

I'm mostly worried about free speech implications for somehow who saw the leak and reshared it, wittingly or not

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Yeah, I read about this the other day. Nintendo and GF are petty and backwards pieces of shit and do dumb shit like this all the time.

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"these dudes used our own ineptitude against us, we demand millions"

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closetkpopfan posted...

I don't see it as a scumbag thing at all. If you want to leak stuff you aren't supposed to you need to be prepared to face the consequences. I don't give 2 ****s about pokemon or it's leaks, but just talking in a general sense. Doesn't matter if leaks happen in everything now days, I don't have a problem with companies trying to fight back. Imagine you worked your ass off on creating something for years and years, and some ass comes and leaks everything before you can show it yourself.

Idk, it's a moral gray area. If someone gets the players guide shipped to them early and they post info online about it, who do you hold accountable here? The creators of the players guide? The company that sold the book early? Or the person who posted the info?

Unless I'm mistaken, you don't enter a legal agreement when you read a book.

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I wish The Pokemon Company would speak out against how China is treating Hong Kong. It would be funny to watch Duncan struggle

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Doe posted...

I'm mostly worried about free speech implications for somehow who saw the leak and reshared it, wittingly or not

Well in that scenario I agree with you. I'm talking specifically about the source of the leak, not someone else who is under no legal obligation.

LostForest posted...

Idk, it's a moral gray area. If someone gets the players guide shipped to them early and they post info online about it, who do you hold accountable here? The creators of the players guide? The company that sold the book early? Or the person who posted the info?

Unless I'm mistaken, you don't enter a legal agreement when you read a book.

The ones who sold early. So again I'm talking in a general sense here, if Nintendo is trying to go after people that got the book early then lol and good luck with that. But if it's someone that helped create the book and posed as someone that got it early? That's fair game obviously.

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How can they argue in court that the leaker hurt their product without admitting that allowing people to know how bad their product was before they bought it was what hurt them?
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DeadBankerDream posted...

How can they argue in court that the leaker hurt their product without admitting that allowing people to know how bad their product was before they bought it was what hurt them?

That's irrelevant. Information released outside of the company's own marketing strategy causes harm to the marketing strategy, and is therefore damaging to the product itself.

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How's everyone protest against Pokemon so far?

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'Breaking: The Pokemon Company has now filed suit against themselves, claiming that spiteful and frivolous legal action filed by themselves against leakers has caused 'irreparable damage' to their reputation.'

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if your game is worth playing then it getting leaked is a GOOD thing

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DeadBankerDream posted...

How can they argue in court that the leaker hurt their product without admitting that allowing people to know how bad their product was before they bought it was what hurt them?

Because people wouldn't have found out until it was too late then.

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The real assholes are the Pokmon fans who still buy this garbage despite bitching about it incessantly for 9 months

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Maybe I'm ignorant or wrong about this, but don't many companies generally try to do what it takes to stop leaks?

Not that I'm necessarily saying this makes it right or anything, but I don't feel it's a Pokemon Company specific issue...

Nintendo probably gonna sue people who didn't sign any NDA.

MagnusDJL posted...

Maybe I'm ignorant or wrong about this, but don't many companies generally try to do what it takes to stop leaks?

Not that I'm necessarily saying this makes it right or anything, but I don't feel it's a Pokemon Company specific issue...

They do, but they generally do it through fairly harmless means like content takedowns/C&D notices.

I can't remember another example in recent history of a game company attempting to directly sue random members of the public, though.

Like, there's defending your property to keep up your copyright, but this is fucking nefarious. They're the biggest media franchise on the planet, making hundreds of millions every single day, and they're seeking damages against random individuals.

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