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Vindris_SNH
12/09/19 11:00:07 AM
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The account of creation in Genesis seems like allegory to me. God wouldn't go explaining the details of evolution to mankind when they wouldn't have understood half of what he was saying back then. God could've masterfully started a chain of events with the big bang.


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Deadpool_18
12/09/19 11:00:54 AM
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Plenty of logic disproves most Abrahamic religions.

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Wutobliteration
12/09/19 11:04:12 AM
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it's kinda a weird paradox if you think about it. If Genesis literally explained everything about evolution and how life came to be and became diverse... then well... i think the entire world would be very different now
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Solid_Seb
12/09/19 11:05:52 AM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
The account of creation in Genesis seems like allegory to me. God wouldn't go explaining the details of evolution to mankind when they wouldn't have understood half of what he was saying back then. God could've masterfully started a chain of events with the big bang.
Probably the same reason some religions don't believe in dinosaurs; it predates the alleged creation of Earth.
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YokoGeri
12/09/19 11:06:26 AM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
Plenty of logic disproves most Abrahamic religions.

so edgy

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Strider102
12/09/19 11:06:31 AM
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So basically I can remove one of my ribs and evolution will turn it into a woman.

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Wutobliteration
12/09/19 11:07:19 AM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
Plenty of logic disproves most Abrahamic religions.

what's interesting though about the Abrahamic religions is that they're all centered on historical figures and events that did happen and did exist. Jesus and his disciples, Paul founding the early church... all these people DID exist. No reputable scholar denies this. And since so, the question to ask is why did they do what they did? The early Christians were heavily being prosecuted. They had no reason to advance their religion if it's all fake. A lot of the new testament are accurately written in its context of time.
I guess an athiest could pull back to the roots and ask, who exactly was Jesus really and why did he do what he did? Why would he tie back to the Old Testament for (which is the part of that is what's most contentious to many)?
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Doe
12/09/19 11:08:09 AM
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It's more like Young Earth Creationists deny evolution because it conflicts with their literal genesis account, and those YECs try to get Intelligent Design taught in schools, so scientifically literate people dab on them

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SquantoZ
12/09/19 11:21:38 AM
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Strider102 posted...
So basically I can remove one of my ribs and evolution will turn it into a woman.

Just incel things...

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philsov
12/09/19 11:23:28 AM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
seems like allegory


If often how it goes.

Bible is the truth until we're able to challenge those ideas, and then it's "just a metaphor". It's literally moving goal posts. At some point we just need to acknowledge that miracles are miracles and God doesn't give a shit about physics or biology in certain circumstances. Or accept that the miracles didn't actually happen as per the bible and it's all just a fictional story used to teach a moral that lacks any authority.
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Solid Sonic
12/09/19 11:24:58 AM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
Plenty of logic disproves most Abrahamic religions.

But doesn't it suck? The knowledge that your consciousness is only bound by the mortal coil and death brings a flat end to your mind?

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The Trent
12/09/19 11:26:00 AM
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TC is correct
you can easily believe both

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Umbreon
12/09/19 11:29:18 AM
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I don't get it either.

Literally everything else that exists they believe "God made it that way!"

But the idea that God set up evolution? No way, God suddenly can't do that apparently!

...Granted a lot of these people don't see any issues with the whole Adam and Eve plot so....

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12/09/19 11:29:50 AM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
Plenty of logic disproves most Abrahamic religions.


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Ethosian
12/09/19 11:32:53 AM
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The Trent posted...
TC is correct
you can easily believe both
I'm not trying to be edgy, I just don't understand how educated people can believe in God as he is described by the Christian religion. The more we learn about science, the more we realize that gods were just created to explain things we couldn't explain at the time. Wouldn't you think a person believing in the Greek pantheon in this day and age was foolish?
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Deadpool_18
12/09/19 11:35:18 AM
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YokoGeri posted...
so edgy
Shut up ROD lol

Wutobliteration posted...
what's interesting though about the Abrahamic religions is that they're all centered on historical figures and events that did happen and did exist. Jesus and his disciples, Paul founding the early church... all these people DID exist. No reputable scholar denies this. And since so, the question to ask is why did they do what they did? The early Christians were heavily being prosecuted. They had no reason to advance their religion if it's all fake. A lot of the new testament are accurately written in its context of time.
I guess an athiest could pull back to the roots and ask, who exactly was Jesus really and why did he do what he did? Why would he tie back to the Old Testament for (which is the part of that is what's most contentious to many)?
Im on board with the existence of the historical figures. The history is interesting. The modern followers trying to convince others that the earth is 6,000 years old are not.

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ReignFury
12/09/19 11:36:19 AM
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Solid Sonic posted...
But doesn't it suck? The knowledge that your consciousness is only bound by the mortal coil and death brings a flat end to your mind?

No, because life is awesome

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Solid Sonic
12/09/19 11:36:53 AM
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ReignFury posted...
No, because life is awesome

My life is all digital consumption and a lack of female presence in my life/loins. So, no, it's not.

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ReignFury
12/09/19 11:38:21 AM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
Plenty of logic disproves most Abrahamic religions.

A good place to start is with the firmament from the bible, we know the earth isnt a flat snowglobe and that the sky isnt another ocean

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Deadpool_18
12/09/19 11:39:20 AM
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Solid Sonic posted...
My life is all digital consumption and a lack of female presence in my life/loins. So, no, it's not.
Change that.

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Foppe
12/09/19 11:39:20 AM
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How do they explain that Noah's Ark is smaller than Titanic, held over 50,000 animals, 7 million insects and provians for a whole year?

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darkphoenix181
12/09/19 11:39:49 AM
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Probably because the account says God made man out of dirt from his own hands.

Throw in evolution and that changes.
You could argue God guided the path and that meant he did it with his own hands, but really that isn't the same. Not as intimate.
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Bad_Mojo
12/09/19 11:40:18 AM
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I hate sounding rude, but I just don't see how any logical person can believe in a God

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The Trent
12/09/19 11:42:23 AM
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Ethosian posted...
I'm not trying to be edgy, I just don't understand how educated people can believe in God as he is described by the Christian religion. The more we learn about science, the more we realize that gods were just created to explain things we couldn't explain at the time. Wouldn't you think a person believing in the Greek pantheon in this day and age was foolish?


if i can believe in God, i can believe in evolution as well
God made the systems, the systems did their jobs
evolution is a system

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darkphoenix181
12/09/19 11:48:25 AM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
I hate sounding rude, but I just don't see how any logical person can believe in a God

Do you also believe the idea that we live in a simulation is something you are unable to understand?

If not, it should be easy to see how one believes in a God. All computers have an admin.
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RickyTheBAWSE
12/09/19 11:49:05 AM
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TC makes general statement...

posters get specific as if it contradicts the statement as a whole...
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Alucard188
12/09/19 11:50:39 AM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
The account of creation in Genesis seems like allegory to me.

The entire bible is allegory. The problem is people taking it as literal fact.

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lil_GoodOlJr_69
12/09/19 11:51:35 AM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
Plenty of logic disproves most Abrahamic religions.

Your parents are divorced
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ArchiePeck
12/09/19 11:51:48 AM
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Solid Sonic posted...
My life is all digital consumption and a lack of female presence in my life/loins. So, no, it's not.

Have you considered going outside and talking to women like the rest of us?
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Maze_
12/09/19 11:52:23 AM
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It doesn't

it just disproved literal interpretations of religious texts

God is a nebulous unfalsifiable concept that cant be proven or disproven scientifically

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RickyTheBAWSE
12/09/19 11:54:40 AM
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Maze_ posted...
It doesn't

it just disproved literal interpretations of religious texts

God is a nebulous unfalsifiable concept that cant be proven or disproven scientifically

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ReignFury
12/09/19 11:56:53 AM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Do you also believe the idea that we live in a simulation is something you are unable to understand?

If not, it should be easy to see how one believes in a God. All computers have an admin.

A creator is not impossible to me but the bible is full of ridiculous horseshit. If the bible had been written differently and proven by science then probably everyone in the western world would be christian. The nonsense in the bible is the real problem.

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The Trent
12/09/19 11:58:14 AM
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ReignFury posted...
The nonsense in the bible is the real problem.

uh nonsense is fucking awesome what are you on about
i love nonsense

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BruceWayneJr
12/09/19 11:59:00 AM
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lil_GoodOlJr_69 posted...
Your parents are divorced

Well, that settles it. God confirmed.

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BombermanGold
12/09/19 11:59:43 AM
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*gasps on shock*
You mean The Flintstones LIED?!?!?!

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Deadpool_18
12/09/19 11:59:56 AM
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lil_GoodOlJr_69 posted...
Your parents are divorced

Nope.

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ReignFury
12/09/19 11:59:58 AM
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The Trent posted...
uh nonsense is fucking awesome what are you on about
i love nonsense

then youll love mythology because thats what the bible is

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thrashmetal14
12/09/19 12:00:14 PM
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philsov posted...
If often how it goes.

Bible is the truth until we're able to challenge those ideas, and then it's "just a metaphor". It's literally moving goal posts. At some point we just need to acknowledge that miracles are miracles and God doesn't give a shit about physics or biology in certain circumstances. Or accept that the miracles didn't actually happen as per the bible and it's all just a fictional story used to teach a moral that lacks any authority.

The Bible is literally a collection of different books which includes fiction, poetry, historical accounts, etc.

You can't say people are "moving the goal posts" when individual books in the bible should be analyzed differently.
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lil_GoodOlJr_69
12/09/19 12:00:26 PM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
Nope.

Damn it was worth a shot
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Rexdragon125
12/09/19 12:00:30 PM
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If you pick and choose and ignore all the bad parts religion isn't so bad!
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IloveJesus
12/09/19 12:00:48 PM
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Maze_ posted...
God is a nebulous unfalsifiable concept that cant be proven or disproven scientifically

As somebody who believes in a creator, God is not a concept which is impossible to prove false. It's very clearly false that the world we live was created by an all knowing, all powerful and all loving God. I mean, the creator may well have more of those three attributes than any other being, but that doesn't mean that they are perfect in those regards.

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darkphoenix181
12/09/19 12:01:04 PM
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ReignFury posted...
If the bible had been written differently and proven by science then probably everyone in the western world would be christian

I mean, there was a time when basically everyone in the west was.
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The Trent
12/09/19 12:02:54 PM
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ReignFury posted...
then youll love mythology because thats what the bible is

i do, mythology is dope as fuck

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Wewillrocku
12/09/19 12:08:48 PM
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probably because you can't be an intelligent designer and use evolution. nobody could call evolution stupid, but it isn't smart either. kind of obvious.

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Dragonblade01
12/09/19 12:12:33 PM
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Correct, whether evolution as we understand it is correct or not, it has no bearing on whether or not some god exists.

It also has no bearing on whether or not it's reasonable to believe a god exists (with the noted exception of gods that require evolution as we understand it to be correct or not).
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Wewillrocku
12/09/19 12:13:19 PM
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my spaghetti god exists. he is completely reasonable.

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TheMikh
12/09/19 12:14:21 PM
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scientism vs creationism is a false dichotomy

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On_The_Edge
12/09/19 12:14:56 PM
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Doe posted...
It's more like Young Earth Creationists deny evolution because it conflicts with their literal genesis account, and those YECs try to get Intelligent Design taught in schools, so scientifically literate people dab on them

YEC and intelligent design people aren't the same though. Intelligent design people usually believe in an old earth

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The Trent
12/09/19 12:15:29 PM
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Wewillrocku posted...
probably because you can't be an intelligent designer and use evolution. nobody could call evolution stupid, but it isn't smart either. kind of obvious.

you can be an intelligent designer and purposefully design a system that is not perfect or "smart"
kind of obvious?

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