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Purely 12/06/19 10:21:03 AM #1:	https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/06/us-nonfarm-payrolls-november-2019.html Nonfarm payrolls surged by 266,000 in November, better than the 187,000 expected by economists polled by Dow Jones. The unemployment rate ticked down to 3.5% from 3.6%, back to the 2019 low and matching the lowest jobless rate since 1969. The end of the GM strike had a big effect, boosting employment in motor vehicles and parts by 41,300, part of an overall 54,000 gain in manufacturing. Average hourly earnings rose by 3.1% from a year ago, slightly above the 3% expected by economists polled by Dow Jones. Stuff like this is why Democrats constantly have to distract people with nonsense against Trump. They can't attack his record of what he's actually doing as president, because what he's doing is massively successful. <cite>Purely posted [p:931185287] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/06/us-nonfarm-payrolls-november-2019.html Nonfarm payrolls surged by 266,000 in November, better than the 187,000 expected by economists polled by Dow Jones.The unemployment rate ticked down to 3.5% from 3.6%, back to the 2019 low and matching the lowest jobless rate since 1969.The end of the GM strike had a big effect, boosting employment in motor vehicles and parts by 41,300, part of an overall 54,000 gain in manufacturing.Average hourly earnings rose by 3.1% from a year ago, slightly above the 3% expected by economists polled by Dow Jones. Stuff like this is why Democrats constantly have to distract people with nonsense against Trump. They can't attack his record of what he's actually doing as president, because what he's doing is massively successful. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lil_GoodOlJr_69 12/06/19 10:21:50 AM #2:	I guess yeah <cite>lil_GoodOlJr_69 posted [p:931185317] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>I guess yeah </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilishe 12/06/19 10:23:07 AM #3:	It was never about facts. We all know this. --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ <cite>Ilishe posted [p:931185357] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>It was never about facts. We all know this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 12/06/19 10:23:17 AM #4:	Yet many people are still earning below the poverty line. The number of jobs don't matter if employers aren't paying their employees a living wage. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:931185363] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Yet many people are still earning below the poverty line. The number of jobs don't matter if employers aren't paying their employees a living wage. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Purely 12/06/19 10:26:56 AM #6:	RedWhiteBlue posted... Wow, I'm swimming in all this winning with my lack of money and basic human rights Jobs are more prevalent now than they have been well beyond our lifetimes. Go out and get money. Now, what basic human rights are being denied to you?? <cite>Purely posted [p:931185488] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>RedWhiteBlue posted... </cite> <quote>Wow, I'm swimming in all this winning with my lack of money and basic human rights</quote> Jobs are more prevalent now than they have been well beyond our lifetimes. Go out and get money. Now, what basic human rights are being denied to you?? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 12/06/19 10:28:41 AM #7:	Lol @ thinking Trump has anything to do with this. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:931185545] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Lol @ thinking Trump has anything to do with this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrMallard 12/06/19 10:31:22 AM #9:	Oh, TC's Proudclad? Tagged --- And I am done with my graceless heart, so tonight I'm gonna cut it out and then restart Now Playing: Yakuza 5, Final Fantasy X-2, Minecraft <cite>MrMallard posted [p:931185637] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Oh, TC's Proudclad? Tagged </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 12/06/19 10:34:35 AM #10:	Trump pretty much has nothing to do with it, but okay. Plenty of presidents get credit they don't deserve --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:931185741] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Trump pretty much has nothing to do with it, but okay. Plenty of presidents get credit they don't deserve </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Purely 12/06/19 10:36:27 AM #11:	RedWhiteBlue posted... Proudclad, how many times do people like Darkman have to put you in your place and shit all over these topics for how ignorant you are? Who the fuck is Proudclad?? Not me. <cite>Purely posted [p:931185799] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>RedWhiteBlue posted... </cite> <quote>Proudclad, how many times do people like Darkman have to put you in your place and shit all over these topics for how ignorant you are?</quote> Who the fuck is Proudclad?? Not me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 12/06/19 10:37:11 AM #12:	Balrog0 posted... Trump pretty much has nothing to do with it, but okay. Plenty of presidents get credit they don't deserve True, although if you go back to 2016 people were predicting that a Trump win would see the country in smoking ruins by this point, so "doing better than ever, even though it's not really his doing" is a pretty good step up from predictions. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-president-trump-could-destroy-the-world-economy/2016/10/05/f70019c0-84df-11e6-92c2-14b64f3d453f_story.html https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/05/donald-trumps-economy/481743/ https://www.economist.com/free-exchange/2016/11/09/the-economic-consequences-of-donald-trump https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/10/will-trump-destroy-america https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/an-american-tragedy-2 --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:931185831] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>Trump pretty much has nothing to do with it, but okay. Plenty of presidents get credit they don't deserve</quote> True, although if you go back to 2016 people were predicting that a Trump win would see the country in smoking ruins by this point, so "doing better than ever, even though it's not really his doing" is a pretty good step up from predictions. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-president-trump-could-destroy-the-world-economy/2016/10/05/f70019c0-84df-11e6-92c2-14b64f3d453f_story.html https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/05/donald-trumps-economy/481743/ https://www.economist.com/free-exchange/2016/11/09/the-economic-consequences-of-donald-trump https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/10/will-trump-destroy-america https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/an-american-tragedy-2 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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metralo 12/06/19 10:39:05 AM #14:	vigorm0rtis posted... Lol @ thinking Trump has anything to do with this. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good <cite>metralo posted [p:931185910] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted... </cite> <quote>Lol @ thinking Trump has anything to do with this.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 12/06/19 10:39:37 AM #15:	JustMyOpinion posted... I'd love to see an underemployment number or a number reflecting those dropped out of the workforce because they can't find jobs. I bet it would be a far less rosy picture. It's the lowest its been since he was elected https://www.statista.com/statistics/205240/us-underemployment-rate/ --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:931185939] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>JustMyOpinion posted... </cite> <quote>I'd love to see an underemployment number or a number reflecting those dropped out of the workforce because they can't find jobs. I bet it would be a far less rosy picture.</quote> It's the lowest its been since he was elected https://www.statista.com/statistics/205240/us-underemployment-rate/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 12/06/19 10:40:05 AM #16:	s0nicfan posted... True, although if you go back to 2016 people were predicting that a Trump win would see the country in smoking ruins by this point, so "doing better than ever, even though it's not really his doing" is a pretty good step up from predictions. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-president-trump-could-destroy-the-world-economy/2016/10/05/f70019c0-84df-11e6-92c2-14b64f3d453f_story.html https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/05/donald-trumps-economy/481743/ https://www.economist.com/free-exchange/2016/11/09/the-economic-consequences-of-donald-trump https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/10/will-trump-destroy-america https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/an-american-tragedy-2 Thats because he hasnt fucking done anything. Hes given tax cuts to the ultra wealthy and increased costs to lower income. Pretty hard to fuck things up when you do nothing but golf, tweet and commit treason. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good <cite>metralo posted [p:931185959] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite> <quote>True, although if you go back to 2016 people were predicting that a Trump win would see the country in smoking ruins by this point, so "doing better than ever, even though it's not really his doing" is a pretty good step up from predictions. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-president-trump-could-destroy-the-world-economy/2016/10/05/f70019c0-84df-11e6-92c2-14b64f3d453f_story.html https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/05/donald-trumps-economy/481743/ https://www.economist.com/free-exchange/2016/11/09/the-economic-consequences-of-donald-trump https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/10/will-trump-destroy-america https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/an-american-tragedy-2</quote> Thats because he hasnt fucking done anything. Hes given tax cuts to the ultra wealthy and increased costs to lower income. Pretty hard to fuck things up when you do nothing but golf, tweet and commit treason. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
krazychao5 12/06/19 10:41:12 AM #17:	Economy is doing great, stock market is near all time highs, legalized sales of MJ started in Michigan, and I'm almost done with CPA exam. Feels good man --- https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/bigllama?type=posted <cite>krazychao5 posted [p:931185999] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Economy is doing great, stock market is near all time highs, legalized sales of MJ started in Michigan, and I'm almost done with CPA exam. Feels good man </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ethosian 12/06/19 10:42:21 AM #18:	vigorm0rtis posted... Lol @ thinking Trump has anything to do with this. <cite>Ethosian posted [p:931186045] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted... </cite> <quote>Lol @ thinking Trump has anything to do with this.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hanky_Bannister 12/06/19 10:45:20 AM #19:	again: seasonal work --- "3rd Best Whiskey in Northern Burma" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvjOu4EzjYg <cite>Hanky_Bannister posted [p:931186150] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>again: seasonal work</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 12/06/19 10:48:31 AM #21:	Tmaster148 posted... Yet many people are still earning below the poverty line. The number of jobs don't matter if employers aren't paying their employees a living wage. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:931186256] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>Yet many people are still earning below the poverty line. The number of jobs don't matter if employers aren't paying their employees a living wage.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 12/06/19 10:48:48 AM #22:	Ex-Kefiroth posted... I don't trust this administration to not be fudging the numbers on these reports somehow They don't need to be fudging numbers. Just pretend that none of these jobs are going to people who need to work more than 1 job because 1 job does not pay them enough to get by. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:931186268] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Ex-Kefiroth posted... </cite> <quote>I don't trust this administration to not be fudging the numbers on these reports somehow</quote> They don't need to be fudging numbers. Just pretend that none of these jobs are going to people who need to work more than 1 job because 1 job does not pay them enough to get by. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 12/06/19 10:48:49 AM #23:	RedWhiteBlue posted... Proudclad, how many times do people like Darkman have to put you in your place and shit all over these topics for how ignorant you are? Wait @Purely is Proudclad?!? --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:931186272] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>RedWhiteBlue posted... </cite> <quote>Proudclad, how many times do people like Darkman have to put you in your place and shit all over these topics for how ignorant you are?</quote>Wait @Purely is Proudclad?!? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rexdragon125 12/06/19 10:51:41 AM #24:	Either proudclad or karlplikington, they both have a similar right wing capitalist crony gimmick <cite>Rexdragon125 posted [p:931186355] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Either proudclad or karlplikington, they both have a similar right wing capitalist crony gimmick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 12/06/19 10:53:42 AM #25:	Solar_Crimson posted... Yet many people are still earning below the poverty line. The number of jobs don't matter if employers aren't paying their employees a living wage. That number (percent of workers in minimum wage jobs) is also declining across the country: https://www.bls.gov/regions/southwest/news-release/minimumwageworkers_texas.htm https://www.bls.gov/regions/mid-atlantic/news-release/minimumwageworkers_pennsylvania.htm https://www.bls.gov/regions/west/news-release/minimumwageworkers_idaho.htm --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:931186420] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>Yet many people are still earning below the poverty line. The number of jobs don't matter if employers aren't paying their employees a living wage.</quote> That number (percent of workers in minimum wage jobs) is also declining across the country: https://www.bls.gov/regions/southwest/news-release/minimumwageworkers_texas.htm https://www.bls.gov/regions/mid-atlantic/news-release/minimumwageworkers_pennsylvania.htm https://www.bls.gov/regions/west/news-release/minimumwageworkers_idaho.htm </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tired-Insomniac 12/06/19 10:54:41 AM #26:	Hanky_Bannister posted... again: seasonal work --- "I like turtles" <cite>Tired-Insomniac posted [p:931186462] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Hanky_Bannister posted... </cite> <quote>again: seasonal work</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tired-Insomniac 12/06/19 10:55:18 AM #27:	It's a lot less impressive when everyone's working two or three jobs to make ends meet tbh --- "I like turtles" <cite>Tired-Insomniac posted [p:931186485] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>It's a lot less impressive when everyone's working two or three jobs to make ends meet tbh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hanky_Bannister 12/06/19 10:59:46 AM #28:	Tired-Insomniac posted... It's a lot less impressive when everyone's working two or three jobs to make ends meet tbh yeah this too funny how all these trumpers dont want to acknowledge this --- "3rd Best Whiskey in Northern Burma" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvjOu4EzjYg <cite>Hanky_Bannister posted [p:931186618] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Tired-Insomniac posted...</cite> <quote>It's a lot less impressive when everyone's working two or three jobs to make ends meet tbh </quote> yeah this too funny how all these trumpers dont want to acknowledge this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 12/06/19 11:00:23 AM #29:	vigorm0rtis posted... Lol @ thinking Trump has anything to do with this. The Republicans called Obama the reason we pay so much for oil. --- "It feels like I'm always wrong." "Nah, that's not true...I mean you just made that statement, didn't you?" <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:931186643] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted... </cite> <quote>Lol @ thinking Trump has anything to do with this.</quote> The Republicans called Obama the reason we pay so much for oil. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 12/06/19 11:00:33 AM #30:	Hanky_Bannister posted... again: seasonal work Economists predicted 187K jobs, they got 266k jobs. Presumably their predictions included seasonal work. And the actual analysis shows the jobs aren't all seasonal. You just have to read. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/06/us-nonfarm-payrolls-november-2019.html However, the job gains were spread among a multitude of sectors. Health care added 45,000 positions after contributing just 12,000 in October. Leisure and hospitality increased by 45,000 and professional and business services rose by 31,000; the two sectors respectively are up 219,000 and 278,000 over the past 12 months. Wage gains also were a touch better than expectations. Average hourly earnings rose by 3.1% from a year ago, while the average workweek held steady at 34.4 hours. In fact, seasonal hiring itself was actually DOWN compared to past years: The news was not all good. As the holiday shopping season accelerated, retail companies added just 2,000 net hires as gains in general merchandise of 22,000 and motor vehicle and parts dealers of 8,000 were offset by an 18,000 loss in clothing and clothing accessories. So these are real jobs numbers, not Christmas retail hires. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:931186649] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Hanky_Bannister posted... </cite> <quote>again: seasonal work</quote> Economists predicted 187K jobs, they got 266k jobs. Presumably their predictions included seasonal work. And the actual analysis shows the jobs aren't all seasonal. You just have to read. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/06/us-nonfarm-payrolls-november-2019.html <quote>However, the job gains were spread among a multitude of sectors. Health care added 45,000 positions after contributing just 12,000 in October. Leisure and hospitality increased by 45,000 and professional and business services rose by 31,000; the two sectors respectively are up 219,000 and 278,000 over the past 12 months. Wage gains also were a touch better than expectations. Average hourly earnings rose by 3.1% from a year ago, while the average workweek held steady at 34.4 hours.</quote> In fact, seasonal hiring itself was actually DOWN compared to past years: <quote>The news was not all good. As the holiday shopping season accelerated, retail companies added just 2,000 net hires as gains in general merchandise of 22,000 and motor vehicle and parts dealers of 8,000 were offset by an 18,000 loss in clothing and clothing accessories.</quote> So these are real jobs numbers, not Christmas retail hires. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MudKip_Master 12/06/19 11:00:58 AM #31:	Thanks Trump! <cite>MudKip_Master posted [p:931186665] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Thanks Trump! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 12/06/19 11:02:36 AM #32:	Tired-Insomniac posted... It's a lot less impressive when everyone's working two or three jobs to make ends meet tbh Do you have any sources for this? Because I'm seeing a lot of claims in this topic that are just flat out objectively wrong when fact checked against even a basic google search. Watch... let me take 10 seconds: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/kamala-harris-says-people-are-working- multiple-jobs-in-trump-economy-its-no-different-now-than-under-obama-2019-06-28 The Bureau of Labor Statistics tracks multiple jobholders every month and no, they havent changed much under President Trump or for that matter, President Obama.\ Oh look at that... more bullshit! --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:931186718] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Tired-Insomniac posted... </cite> <quote>It's a lot less impressive when everyone's working two or three jobs to make ends meet tbh</quote> Do you have any sources for this? Because I'm seeing a lot of claims in this topic that are just flat out objectively wrong when fact checked against even a basic google search. Watch... let me take 10 seconds: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/kamala-harris-says-people-are-working- multiple-jobs-in-trump-economy-its-no-different-now-than-under-obama-2019-06-28 <quote>The Bureau of Labor Statistics tracks multiple jobholders every month and no, they havent changed much under President Trump or for that matter, President Obama.\</quote> Oh look at that... more bullshit! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SK8T3R215 12/06/19 11:03:44 AM #33:	Balrog0 posted... Trump pretty much has nothing to do with it, but okay. Plenty of presidents get credit they don't deserve THIS! GREAT POST! [LFAQs-redacted-quote] That's the U-6 unemployment rate. It's been declining over the last decade and is at 6.9% (nice) in November. --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. <cite>SK8T3R215 posted [p:931186752] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>Trump pretty much has nothing to do with it, but okay. Plenty of presidents get credit they don't deserve</quote> THIS! GREAT POST! <cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> That's the U-6 unemployment rate. It's been declining over the last decade and is at 6.9% (nice) in November. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Purely 12/06/19 11:04:28 AM #34:	Rexdragon125 posted... Either proudclad or karlplikington, they both have a similar right wing capitalist crony gimmick I'm not anybody. I barely even talk about politics. <cite>Purely posted [p:931186774] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Rexdragon125 posted... </cite> <quote>Either proudclad or karlplikington, they both have a similar right wing capitalist crony gimmick</quote> I'm not anybody. I barely even talk about politics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ethosian 12/06/19 11:04:55 AM #35:	Rexdragon125 posted... Either proudclad or karlplikington, they both have a similar right wing capitalist crony gimmick karlpilkington is Funbazooka <cite>Ethosian posted [p:931186790] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Rexdragon125 posted... </cite> <quote>Either proudclad or karlplikington, they both have a similar right wing capitalist crony gimmick</quote>karlpilkington is Funbazooka </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 12/06/19 11:06:28 AM #36:	Purely posted... I'm not anybody. I barely even talk about politics. Of course you don't. That's why you made this topic. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:931186841] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Purely posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not anybody. I barely even talk about politics.</quote> Of course you don't. That's why you made this topic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
krazychao5 12/06/19 11:07:47 AM #37:	Tmaster148 posted... Of course you don't. That's why you made this topic. It's about economics... --- https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/bigllama?type=posted <cite>krazychao5 posted [p:931186884] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>Of course you don't. That's why you made this topic.</quote>It's about economics... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Purely 12/06/19 11:08:18 AM #38:	Tmaster148 posted... Of course you don't. That's why you made this topic. Yeah I made it because it's really good job numbers. I don't have to be a fucking shill gimmick to talk about real current events. It's really like you live in this fantasy world and anyone who doesn't immediately discredit anything positive for Trump must just be a troll. It's fucking pitiful. <cite>Purely posted [p:931186902] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>Of course you don't. That's why you made this topic.</quote> Yeah I made it because it's really good job numbers. I don't have to be a fucking shill gimmick to talk about real current events. It's really like you live in this fantasy world and anyone who doesn't immediately discredit anything positive for Trump must just be a troll. It's fucking pitiful. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ethosian 12/06/19 11:09:39 AM #39:	krazychao5 posted... It's about economics... Purely posted... Stuff like this is why Democrats constantly have to distract people with nonsense against Trump. They can't attack his record of what he's actually doing as president, because what he's doing is massively successful. No. Its not. <cite>Ethosian posted [p:931186943] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>krazychao5 posted... </cite> <quote>It's about economics...</quote> Purely posted... </cite> <quote>Stuff like this is why Democrats constantly have to distract people with nonsense against Trump. They can't attack his record of what he's actually doing as president, because what he's doing is massively successful. </quote>No. Its not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 12/06/19 11:10:31 AM #40:	krazychao5 posted... It's about economics... Purely posted... Stuff like this is why Democrats constantly have to distract people with nonsense against Trump. Totally just about economics. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:931186969] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>krazychao5 posted... </cite> <quote>It's about economics...</quote> Purely posted... </cite> <quote>Stuff like this is why Democrats constantly have to distract people with nonsense against Trump.</quote> Totally just about economics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tired-Insomniac 12/06/19 11:10:41 AM #41:	s0nicfan posted... Do you have any sources for this? Because I'm seeing a lot of claims in this topic that are just flat out objectively wrong when fact checked against even a basic google search. Watch... let me take 10 seconds: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/kamala-harris-says-people-are-working- multiple-jobs-in-trump-economy-its-no-different-now-than-under-obama-2019-06-28 Oh look at that... more bullshit! You can read articles that are made to make things look better or you could go outside and actually pay attention to the world around you. It's anecdotal but almost every single person I know is working at least two jobs. In a city where the cost of living isn't even that bad. Everyone's Ubering, Doordashing, Lyfting, etc. --- "I like turtles" <cite>Tired-Insomniac posted [p:931186975] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite> <quote>Do you have any sources for this? Because I'm seeing a lot of claims in this topic that are just flat out objectively wrong when fact checked against even a basic google search. Watch... let me take 10 seconds: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/kamala-harris-says-people-are-working- multiple-jobs-in-trump-economy-its-no-different-now-than-under-obama-2019-06-28 Oh look at that... more bullshit!</quote> You can read articles that are made to make things look better or you could go outside and actually pay attention to the world around you. It's anecdotal but almost every single person I know is working at least two jobs. In a city where the cost of living isn't even that bad. Everyone's Ubering, Doordashing, Lyfting, etc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MudKip_Master 12/06/19 11:10:41 AM #42:	Tmaster148 posted... Yet many people are still earning below the poverty line. The number of jobs don't matter if employers aren't paying their employees a living wage. Its only around 14%, everyone else has decent to really food jobs. Dunno why some always try to troll economic topics like this. <cite>MudKip_Master posted [p:931186976] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>Yet many people are still earning below the poverty line. The number of jobs don't matter if employers aren't paying their employees a living wage.</quote> Its only around 14%, everyone else has decent to really food jobs. Dunno why some always try to troll economic topics like this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rexdragon125 12/06/19 11:14:28 AM #44:	Because the government hasn't changed the definition of poverty in decades while the cost of living has gone up <cite>Rexdragon125 posted [p:931187098] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Because the government hasn't changed the definition of poverty in decades while the cost of living has gone up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MudKip_Master 12/06/19 11:15:51 AM #45:	Hairistotle posted... If things are going so great why does everyone around me seem to be doing worse? My friends are getting let go left and right and having to work in fucking Macy's and stop and shop in their late 20s and early 30s. You're telling me this is just happening in my little pocket of society? Where do you live? Anecdote Town on the Rust Belt? <cite>MudKip_Master posted [p:931187159] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Hairistotle posted... </cite> <quote>If things are going so great why does everyone around me seem to be doing worse? My friends are getting let go left and right and having to work in fucking Macy's and stop and shop in their late 20s and early 30s. You're telling me this is just happening in my little pocket of society?</quote> Where do you live? Anecdote Town on the Rust Belt? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 12/06/19 11:17:19 AM #46:	Hairistotle posted... If things are going so great why does everyone around me seem to be doing worse? My friends are getting let go left and right and having to work in fucking Macy's and stop and shop in their late 20s and early 30s. You're telling me this is just happening in my little pocket of society? You're perfectly free to say "my area is suffering" but if you or others are going to make claims about "the economy" or "the country" and every piece of collected data objectively shows you're wrong, you can't then fall back on "well yea, but I know some people who are struggling" as some sort of overriding evidence. In no other situation would you accept anecdotal evidence as proof of some sort of trend if it went directly against the established data. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:931187214] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Hairistotle posted... </cite> <quote>If things are going so great why does everyone around me seem to be doing worse? My friends are getting let go left and right and having to work in fucking Macy's and stop and shop in their late 20s and early 30s. You're telling me this is just happening in my little pocket of society?</quote> You're perfectly free to say "my area is suffering" but if you or others are going to make claims about "the economy" or "the country" and every piece of collected data objectively shows you're wrong, you can't then fall back on "well yea, but I know some people who are struggling" as some sort of overriding evidence. In no other situation would you accept anecdotal evidence as proof of some sort of trend if it went directly against the established data. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tired-Insomniac 12/06/19 11:18:49 AM #47:	Where are the reports about cost of living increases? Like who gives a shit if earnings are up 2% if average rent went up 6% Back when I was renting I got a raise that was about $60/month extra. Then the next month my lease renewed and it was $80/month higher. That shit happens everywhere. --- "I like turtles" <cite>Tired-Insomniac posted [p:931187260] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Where are the reports about cost of living increases? Like who gives a shit if earnings are up 2% if average rent went up 6% Back when I was renting I got a raise that was about $60/month extra. Then the next month my lease renewed and it was $80/month higher. That shit happens everywhere. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 12/06/19 11:22:39 AM #49:	Hairistotle posted... I'm not making claims I'm asking questions. I live on Long Island Then the answer to your question ("You're telling me this is just happening in my little pocket of society?") is "yes" based on all the data available. But if you're looking for more information, Long Island tracks its own labor statistics: https://labor.ny.gov/stats/lon/index.shtm If your area is doing particularly poorly, perhaps the problem is local politicians and not some federal policy issue. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:931187405] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Hairistotle posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not making claims I'm asking questions. I live on Long Island</quote> Then the answer to your question ("You're telling me this is just happening in my little pocket of society?") is "yes" based on all the data available. But if you're looking for more information, Long Island tracks its own labor statistics: https://labor.ny.gov/stats/lon/index.shtm If your area is doing particularly poorly, perhaps the problem is local politicians and not some federal policy issue. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ethosian 12/06/19 11:22:39 AM #50:	Hairistotle posted... I'm not making claims I'm asking questions. I live on Long Island Probably because, as Trump claimed Obama did, his administration is cooking the books to look better. <cite>Ethosian posted [p:931187406] in Job growth... [t:78231309]...</cite> <quote>Hairistotle posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not making claims I'm asking questions. I live on Long Island</quote>Probably because, as Trump claimed Obama did, his administration is cooking the books to look better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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