Current Events > I just do not understand why a black person would vote republican

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as a person that grew up around them it....this makes no sense whatsoever. Like just don't vote for either party then because that makes the most sense!
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JBaLLEN66 posted...

as a person that grew up around them

Republicans?

There's no reason for anybody with compassion to vote Republican. At least not for this era.
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because neighborhood schooling is segregation by another name
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They want to be accepted by Putin that is why.

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Crono99 posted...

Well, they have the right to vote for who they want too, no?

Think TC wants to understand why they'd want to vote Republican.

They (talking culture and demographics) align religiously, have similar individualistic views, and share some concerns (abortion, immigration, probably more).

The fact that the Republican party has failed at courting black votes really betrays a failure in their policies. They can't drop their unconditional support for bad police, can't give ground on safety nets, and can't stop being or seeming racist. Black women, in particular, have helped prop up Democrats in recent elections.

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Culturally Black people are conservative AF.

The GOP just openly dehumanizes them while the Dems occasionally acknowledge the issue, even if doing nothing to help.

That ever-so-slight difference has made all the difference
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Dark_SilverX posted...

They want to be accepted by Putin that is why.

Putin hates black people more than Steven Miller.
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All aspects of politics and politicians are completely fucked. It's a lot of lies, corruption, and bullshit. People interpret which is the lesser of two evils, if they aren't ignorant to the points I just made. It's turned into who will do the least damage opposed to who will do the best job.

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Why would they vote Democrat either? Black folks or minorities in general should withhold their votes from both parties and only vote for their own party before they're given actual change. Not a welfare system that makes them beholden to a system and not pandering with no results. You don't believe a single politician cares about their problems do you? Look at all the gentrification especially in a new York a supposed Democrat city. I know people who had to move to New Jersey because anywhere in Democrat new York is too expensive.
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lilJoe457 posted...

Why would they vote Democrat either? Black folks or minorities in general should withhold their votes from both parties and only vote for their own party before they're given actual change. Not a welfare system that makes them beholden to a system and not pandering with no results. You don't believe a single politician cares about their problems do you? Look at all the gentrification especially in a new York a supposed Democrat city. I know people who had to move to New Jersey because anywhere in Democrat new York is too expensive.

Tried and failed with the Panthers.

What else do you suggest that won't present the exact same obstacles?
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Suggesting that people should vote a certain way because of their skin color is the definition of racism.

I don't understand why anyone who's not super rich votes for them. It's like people hate themselves.
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Maybe we are sick of fake Democrats pretending to care about us while doing nothing to prevent violence in our communities.

It's always the Democrats that want to promote some useless bullshit like "family bbqs" (which the white Democrats never come to) and useless "Marches for Peace" (and they show up for like one photo op).
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Jagermeister513 posted...

Maybe we are sick of fake Democrats pretending to care about us while doing nothing to prevent violence in our communities.

It's always the Democrats that want to promote some useless bullshit like "family bbqs" (which the white Democrats never come to) and useless "Marches for Peace" (and they show up for like one photo op).

As opposed to Republicans who also do nothing to prevent violence in your communities but also have a lowkey thrum of racism throughout their entire party?
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Purely posted...

Suggesting that people should vote a certain way because of their skin color is the definition of racism.

In what dictionary? Lol

Fun fact: Not everything racial is racist.

But the OP is still pretty silly.
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I don't try to understand what it is like to be Black (or any race that is not white) because I will never genuinely understand the struggles and lives they lead and the prejudices they have to face.

If you are baffled as to why they vote Republican how about you ask them? I know a few black Republicans and they are usually pro business and that is what they stand for.

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lilJoe457 posted...

Why would they vote Democrat either? Black folks or minorities in general should withhold their votes from both parties

Yes just give Republicans everything, what could possible go wrong for them?

Black people can't afford to play by edgelord suburban white kid rules dude.

pegusus123456 posted...

Jagermeister513 posted...

Maybe we are sick of fake Democrats pretending to care about us while doing nothing to prevent violence in our communities.

It's always the Democrats that want to promote some useless bullshit like "family bbqs" (which the white Democrats never come to) and useless "Marches for Peace" (and they show up for like one photo op).

As opposed to Republicans who also do nothing to prevent violence in your communities but also have a lowkey thrum of racism throughout their entire party?

Ramping up police activity in crime areas is not racism. And yes, my community has a problem with reporting crimes. The whole ghetto "no snitching" mentality that hurts a lot of people here.

I saw this tired ass ghetto mentality back in 2001 when the Cincinnati race riots happened and no one learned anything.
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Black here. I havent voted republican but I can understand those that do. For years, Dems have promised blacks this and that, and often times, weve got nothing but empty promises. Most Democratic cities have the black areas usually patrolled by police who literally traffic drugs into poorer black regions (like Baltimore) , poverty is high, and dem politicians havent done a thing to help their folks out.

I think many blacks people are waking up to things, but traditionally, blacks are actually more conservative on social issues than many think. On top of that, black people dont want a bigger govt but a smaller one because big government has done nothing for blacks thus far.

I totally get it. Democrats use black people as pawns but dont really do much to change anything. I think the biggest eye opener was Barack Obamas presidency and how it did little for the black community. I believe thats why Trump had a higher black vote than in the past Republicans

XXmiznatorXX posted...

Black here. I havent voted republican but I can understand those that do. For years, Dems have promised blacks this and that, and often times, weve got nothing but empty promises. Most Democratic cities have the black areas usually patrolled by police who literally traffic drugs into poorer black regions (like Baltimore) , poverty is high, and dem politicians havent done a thing to help their folks out.

I think many blacks people are waking up to things, but traditionally, blacks are actually more conservative on social issues than many think. On top of that, black people dont want a bigger govt but a smaller one because big government has done nothing for blacks thus far.

I totally get it. Democrats use black people as pawns but dont really do much to change anything. I think the biggest eye opener was Barack Obamas presidency and how it did little for the black community. I believe thats why Trump had a higher black vote than in the past Republicans

Thank you.
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metallica846 posted...

My girl is Mexican and her entire extended family loves Trump even with all the wall shit he talks about and shit hole countries etc etc.

Why?

Abortion. That's it case closed. Ugh fuck outtaaaa here with that shit.

That, and they're already here.

But what if they agree with their ideology for some crazy reason and want to be republackin anyway?
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Yelsin posted...

Think TC wants to understand why they'd want to vote Republican.

XXmiznatorXX posted...

Black here. I havent voted republican but I can understand those that do. For years, Dems have promised blacks this and that, and often times, weve got nothing but empty promises. Most Democratic cities have the black areas usually patrolled by police who literally traffic drugs into poorer black regions (like Baltimore) , poverty is high, and dem politicians havent done a thing to help their folks out.

I think many blacks people are waking up to things, but traditionally, blacks are actually more conservative on social issues than many think. On top of that, black people dont want a bigger govt but a smaller one because big government has done nothing for blacks thus far.

I totally get it. Democrats use black people as pawns but dont really do much to change anything. I think the biggest eye opener was Barack Obamas presidency and how it did little for the black community. I believe thats why Trump had a higher black vote than in the past Republicans

Boom.

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Religion, family and community.

I mean some don't want their community to turn into Chicago, Detroit or Baltimore.

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With our ridiculous two-party system, people often have to pick a few issues that are most important to them and get behind the party that supports those issues.
The Republicans that I know mostly vote that way for one of a few narrow reasons. Such as:
1. Abortion - They feel that abortion is murder and is is so morally wrong that they are obligated to vote against it.
2. Fear of Socialism - They feel that the left is pushing too far into socialism and that socialism would basically destroy our country.

I know people who are Democratic in almost every viewpoint and who don't even like Republican policies that much BUT feel so strongly against abortion that they vote Republican. Then in a textbook example of confirmation bias and choice-support bias, when they start discussing their voting choice as a whole (rather than each issue separately) they tend to back away a bit from their usual criticisms of Republican policies.
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It's sad that white liberals from the suburbs are confused why black people vote differently than them.
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@AirFresh posted...

I don't try to understand what it is like to be Black (or any race that is not white) because I will never genuinely understand the struggles and lives they lead and the prejudices they have to face.

Don't fall for their lies. This world has figured out how detect entities light years away from this Earth, allow people to communicate near instantly with others halfway across the world, build nukes, and are cultivating a new banking system that will disrupt the current fiat currency system as we know it.

Human beings are not special snowflakes that could never be understood based on the color of your skin or needing to experience an event firsthand to understand instead of conceptualizing it and relating it owns own experiences. If this were true, then the very concept of sympathy could not exist.

Don't fall for their lies. Sympathy is a finite resource and shouldn't be handed out like candy. And remember that civil rights movements thrive on inclusivity, not exclusivity. As a black man, I repeat, do not fall for their lies.
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Jagermeister513 posted...

It's sad that white liberals from the suburbs are confused why black people vote differently than them.

If it helps, I also don't understand why white people from the suburbs vote Republican.
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XXmiznatorXX posted...

Black here. I havent voted republican but I can understand those that do. For years, Dems have promised blacks this and that, and often times, weve got nothing but empty promises. Most Democratic cities have the black areas usually patrolled by police who literally traffic drugs into poorer black regions (like Baltimore) , poverty is high, and dem politicians havent done a thing to help their folks out.

I think many blacks people are waking up to things, but traditionally, blacks are actually more conservative on social issues than many think. On top of that, black people dont want a bigger govt but a smaller one because big government has done nothing for blacks thus far.

I totally get it. Democrats use black people as pawns but dont really do much to change anything. I think the biggest eye opener was Barack Obamas presidency and how it did little for the black community. I believe thats why Trump had a higher black vote than in the past Republicans

Makes sense but why not just abstain from voting rather than voting for a party that doesnt positively support black Americans. When I see or hear something like that, it makes me think this individual has been sheltered from republicans or is a ....
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The Democrats can irk my nerves sometimes but I'll be damned if I jump ship to the Republicans after they've weaponized anti-black sentiment for votes over the last 40+ years and aggressively attempt to disenfranchise the black vote.

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Jagermeister513 posted...

It's sad that white liberals from the suburbs are confused why black people vote differently than them.

I think it's more people being confused about anyone actively voting against their interests and supporting people who actively work to make their lives worse. Nothing unique to black people in this though, people of all spectrums will vote against their own interest to "support their guy" or because they believe in one issue they support.
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growing up in lower east michigan...there aint much difference.

i was modded just for hypothetically thinking what goes through the mind of a black republican when he's surrounded by his (predominantly white)peers.
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JBaLLEN66 posted...

XXmiznatorXX posted...

Black here. I havent voted republican but I can understand those that do. For years, Dems have promised blacks this and that, and often times, weve got nothing but empty promises. Most Democratic cities have the black areas usually patrolled by police who literally traffic drugs into poorer black regions (like Baltimore) , poverty is high, and dem politicians havent done a thing to help their folks out.

I think many blacks people are waking up to things, but traditionally, blacks are actually more conservative on social issues than many think. On top of that, black people dont want a bigger govt but a smaller one because big government has done nothing for blacks thus far.

I totally get it. Democrats use black people as pawns but dont really do much to change anything. I think the biggest eye opener was Barack Obamas presidency and how it did little for the black community. I believe thats why Trump had a higher black vote than in the past Republicans

Makes sense but why not just abstain from voting rather than voting for a party that doesnt positively support black Americans. When I see or hear something like that, it makes me think this individual has been sheltered from republicans or is a ....

I hate to say it, but black unemployment is actually down with Trump. Thats good enough for many blacks. Go watch black YouTube and see how many blacks are actually starting to become pro-Trump, believe it or not. Also, like I said, socially, many blacks are actually pretty conservative, like not supporting abortion, Planned Parenthood, and LGBT issues.

Also, especially this past election cycle, Democrats talk a lot about race and bring up race issues. But a reason why blacks arent going for a Kamala Harris and Cory Booker is because theyll pander to blacks by doing some Black panther poses or whatever, but when asked specifically about supporting blacks, she laughed it off. This video alone is a reason why she has little black support.

https://youtu.be/u1wdrqbcGCs

So now either blacks are switching parties or not voting at all. But the Democrats had their chance with Obama, nothing. And now with neo-lib folks like Joe Biden , who supported those incarceration bills in the 90s, why would the black vote be necessarily high for that? People are starting to make their own decisions.

I think its best to listen to people. Rather than just well why they dont just do this? like were a bunch of mindless sheep.

XXmiznatorXX posted...

JBaLLEN66 posted...

XXmiznatorXX posted...

Black here. I havent voted republican but I can understand those that do. For years, Dems have promised blacks this and that, and often times, weve got nothing but empty promises. Most Democratic cities have the black areas usually patrolled by police who literally traffic drugs into poorer black regions (like Baltimore) , poverty is high, and dem politicians havent done a thing to help their folks out.

I think many blacks people are waking up to things, but traditionally, blacks are actually more conservative on social issues than many think. On top of that, black people dont want a bigger govt but a smaller one because big government has done nothing for blacks thus far.

I totally get it. Democrats use black people as pawns but dont really do much to change anything. I think the biggest eye opener was Barack Obamas presidency and how it did little for the black community. I believe thats why Trump had a higher black vote than in the past Republicans

Makes sense but why not just abstain from voting rather than voting for a party that doesnt positively support black Americans. When I see or hear something like that, it makes me think this individual has been sheltered from republicans or is a ....

I hate to say it, but black unemployment is actually down with Trump. Thats good enough for many blacks. Go watch black YouTube and see how many blacks are actually starting to become pro-Trump, believe it or not. Also, like I said, socially, many blacks are actually pretty conservative, like not supporting abortion, Planned Parenthood, and LGBT issues.

Also, especially this past election cycle, Democrats talk a lot about race and bring up race issues. But a reason why blacks arent going for a Kamala Harris and Cory Booker is because theyll pander to blacks by doing some Black panther poses or whatever, but when asked specifically about supporting blacks, she laughed it off. This video alone is a reason why she has little black support.

https://youtu.be/u1wdrqbcGCs

So now either blacks are switching parties or not voting at all. But the Democrats had their chance with Obama, nothing. And now with neo-lib folks like Joe Biden , who supported those incarceration bills in the 90s, why would the black vote be necessarily high for that? People are starting to make their own decisions.

I think its best to listen to people. Rather than just well why they dont just do this? like were a bunch of mindless sheep.

I feel like Trump is more of a wildcard candidate. Lets bring up a typical republican like Mitt Romney or if you were voting for a republican in a congressional or governor race?
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Why black people vote for either side confuses me
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StealthRock posted...

Why black people vote for either side confuses me

The two party system sucks but I don't think a total lack of participation in government helps us in any way. If you're not at the table then you're on the menu.

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Taharqa_ posted...

The two party system sucks but I don't think a total lack of participation in government helps us in any way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protest_vote
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JBaLLEN66 posted...

XXmiznatorXX posted...

JBaLLEN66 posted...

XXmiznatorXX posted...

Black here. I havent voted republican but I can understand those that do. For years, Dems have promised blacks this and that, and often times, weve got nothing but empty promises. Most Democratic cities have the black areas usually patrolled by police who literally traffic drugs into poorer black regions (like Baltimore) , poverty is high, and dem politicians havent done a thing to help their folks out.

I think many blacks people are waking up to things, but traditionally, blacks are actually more conservative on social issues than many think. On top of that, black people dont want a bigger govt but a smaller one because big government has done nothing for blacks thus far.

I totally get it. Democrats use black people as pawns but dont really do much to change anything. I think the biggest eye opener was Barack Obamas presidency and how it did little for the black community. I believe thats why Trump had a higher black vote than in the past Republicans

Makes sense but why not just abstain from voting rather than voting for a party that doesnt positively support black Americans. When I see or hear something like that, it makes me think this individual has been sheltered from republicans or is a ....

I hate to say it, but black unemployment is actually down with Trump. Thats good enough for many blacks. Go watch black YouTube and see how many blacks are actually starting to become pro-Trump, believe it or not. Also, like I said, socially, many blacks are actually pretty conservative, like not supporting abortion, Planned Parenthood, and LGBT issues.

Also, especially this past election cycle, Democrats talk a lot about race and bring up race issues. But a reason why blacks arent going for a Kamala Harris and Cory Booker is because theyll pander to blacks by doing some Black panther poses or whatever, but when asked specifically about supporting blacks, she laughed it off. This video alone is a reason why she has little black support.

https://youtu.be/u1wdrqbcGCs

So now either blacks are switching parties or not voting at all. But the Democrats had their chance with Obama, nothing. And now with neo-lib folks like Joe Biden , who supported those incarceration bills in the 90s, why would the black vote be necessarily high for that? People are starting to make their own decisions.

I think its best to listen to people. Rather than just well why they dont just do this? like were a bunch of mindless sheep.

I feel like Trump is more of a wildcard candidate. Lets bring up a typical republican like Mitt Romney or if you were voting for a republican in a congressional or governor race?

I dont really follow Republicans, but I dont understand why if youre a R, youre automatically alt-right. But I gotta say, at least Rs dont pander.

I wouldnt vote R, but I know plenty of blacks who do.

XXmiznatorXX posted...

JBaLLEN66 posted...

XXmiznatorXX posted...

JBaLLEN66 posted...

XXmiznatorXX posted...

Black here. I havent voted republican but I can understand those that do. For years, Dems have promised blacks this and that, and often times, weve got nothing but empty promises. Most Democratic cities have the black areas usually patrolled by police who literally traffic drugs into poorer black regions (like Baltimore) , poverty is high, and dem politicians havent done a thing to help their folks out.

I think many blacks people are waking up to things, but traditionally, blacks are actually more conservative on social issues than many think. On top of that, black people dont want a bigger govt but a smaller one because big government has done nothing for blacks thus far.

I totally get it. Democrats use black people as pawns but dont really do much to change anything. I think the biggest eye opener was Barack Obamas presidency and how it did little for the black community. I believe thats why Trump had a higher black vote than in the past Republicans

Makes sense but why not just abstain from voting rather than voting for a party that doesnt positively support black Americans. When I see or hear something like that, it makes me think this individual has been sheltered from republicans or is a ....

I hate to say it, but black unemployment is actually down with Trump. Thats good enough for many blacks. Go watch black YouTube and see how many blacks are actually starting to become pro-Trump, believe it or not. Also, like I said, socially, many blacks are actually pretty conservative, like not supporting abortion, Planned Parenthood, and LGBT issues.

Also, especially this past election cycle, Democrats talk a lot about race and bring up race issues. But a reason why blacks arent going for a Kamala Harris and Cory Booker is because theyll pander to blacks by doing some Black panther poses or whatever, but when asked specifically about supporting blacks, she laughed it off. This video alone is a reason why she has little black support.

https://youtu.be/u1wdrqbcGCs

So now either blacks are switching parties or not voting at all. But the Democrats had their chance with Obama, nothing. And now with neo-lib folks like Joe Biden , who supported those incarceration bills in the 90s, why would the black vote be necessarily high for that? People are starting to make their own decisions.

I think its best to listen to people. Rather than just well why they dont just do this? like were a bunch of mindless sheep.

I feel like Trump is more of a wildcard candidate. Lets bring up a typical republican like Mitt Romney or if you were voting for a republican in a congressional or governor race?

I dont really follow Republicans, but I dont understand why if youre a R, youre automatically alt-right. But I gotta say, at least Rs dont pander.

I wouldnt vote R, but I know plenty of blacks who do.

lol who is doing this? alt right is basically an individual with fascist beliefs, but doesn't want to pull the trigger.
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Maybe the black person would prefer to vote for a party who believes in ones ability to become a success rather than a party who believes they arent good enough to strive without their wonderful social programs and assistance.
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XXmiznatorXX is dropping truth bombs in here!
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JBaLLEN66 posted...

XXmiznatorXX posted...

Black here. I havent voted republican but I can understand those that do. For years, Dems have promised blacks this and that, and often times, weve got nothing but empty promises. Most Democratic cities have the black areas usually patrolled by police who literally traffic drugs into poorer black regions (like Baltimore) , poverty is high, and dem politicians havent done a thing to help their folks out.

I think many blacks people are waking up to things, but traditionally, blacks are actually more conservative on social issues than many think. On top of that, black people dont want a bigger govt but a smaller one because big government has done nothing for blacks thus far.

I totally get it. Democrats use black people as pawns but dont really do much to change anything. I think the biggest eye opener was Barack Obamas presidency and how it did little for the black community. I believe thats why Trump had a higher black vote than in the past Republicans

Makes sense but why not just abstain from voting rather than voting for a party that doesnt positively support black Americans. When I see or hear something like that, it makes me think this individual has been sheltered from republicans or is a ....

Black man here. I never cared enough to vote until the 2016 election. Trump made a strong appeal to people like myself and gave the impression that things would be better with him in the White House.
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Philosopher_X posted...

There's no reason for anybody with compassion to vote Republican. At least not for this era.

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I think a lot of people are like @TheRealDill2010. Blacks came out for Trump because the alternative was...Hillary. And we know her past with blacks.