Board 8 > Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 12: Week 17 and Beyond!

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Colts sign C Mark Fenton to a 1 year deal
Redskins sign FB Jalston Fowler to a 1 year deal
Cowboys sign HB Julian Reams

AI + Colts scores

Ravens - 24
Jets - 17

Colts - 34
Pioneers - 17

Broncos - 25
Lightning - 20
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Buccaneers - 20
Lions - 17

1st Quarter
Feely 50 yard FG
D. Williams 2 yard run

2nd Quarter
D. Williams 2 yard run
Collins 5 yard run
Bironas 20 yard FG

4th Quarter
Feely 39 yard FG
Bridgewater 1 yard run

Notable Players
Lions QB E.J. Manuel 13-27, 149 yards, 2 INTs, 2 fumbles
Lions HB DeAngelo Williams 2 rush TD
Lions WR Torrey Smith 6 rec for 106 yards
Bucs OLB Sio Moore 8 tackles, 1 sack, 1 INT
Bucs MLB Alec Ogletree 6 tackles, 1 sack
Bucs DT John Henderson 3 tackles, 1 sack, 1 FF
Bucs SS Adrian Amos 2 tackles, 1 sack, 1 INT
Lions OLB Junior Galette 7 tackles, 1 sack
Lions DE Joey Bosa 3 tackles, 2 sacks
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Packers - 26
Vikings - 7

1st Quarter
Bailey 2 yard run
Brown 37 yard FG

2nd Quarter
Slater 1 yard run
Brown 40 yard FG
Jackson 6 yard run

4th Quarter
Brown 29 and 42 yard FGs

Notable Players
Vikings QB Tavaris Jackson 13-24, 135 yards, 2 INTs, 8 rushes for 57 yards, 1 TD
Packers TE Greg Olsen 10 rec for 80 yards
Packers OLB Reggie Hartley 10 tackles, 1 sack
Packers MLB Derrick Jordan 8 tackles, 1 INT
Packers DE Brian Brown 2 sacks
Vikings MLB Sam Crooks 15 tackles
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Browns - 25
Giants - 11

1st Quarter
Bailey 41 yard FG

2nd Quarter
Juszczyk 1 yard run
Melhaff 43 yard FG

3rd Quarter
Melhaff 24, 35, 38, and 20 yard FGs

4th Quarter
Pead 5 yard pass from Olson + 2 pointer
Melhaff 40 yard FG

Notable Players
Giants QB Ben Olson 18-32, 155 yards, 1 TD, 3 INTs
Browns K Taylor Melhaff 6-6 FGAs
Browns S Nick Baldwin 7 tackles, 1 INT
Browns MLB Dont'a Hightower 6 tackles, 1 sack
Browns CB Brandon Flowers 2 tackles, 1 FF, 1 INT
Giants MLB Barrett Ruud 14 tackles
Giants DE Loren Howard 4 tackles, 2 sacks
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Chiefs - 14
Titans - 26

1st Quarter
Zimmerman 91 yard KR
Bush 2 yard pass from Garo
Gould 38 yard FG

2nd Quarter
Kelly 16 yard pass from Lynch + 2 pointer
Harris safety
Gould 39 and 23 yard FGs
Iloka 18 yard FR

Notable Players
Titans QB Paxton Lynch 12-26, 127 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs
Titans HB Melvin Gordon 40 carries for 205 yards
Chiefs P David Lonie 8 punts for 51.7 avg, 5 inside opp. 20
Chiefs OLB Jamie Collins 8 tackles, 1 sack
Chiefs SS Kyle Hollins 7 tackles, 1 FF, 1 INT
Titans MLB Brian Cusing 7 tackles, 2 sacks
Titans MLB David Harris 6 tackles, 2 sacks
Titans OLB Shawne Merriman 6 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 FF
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49ers - 24
Bills - 20

1st Quarter
Scobee 39 yard FG
Tucker 27 yard FG

2nd Quarter
Johnson 33 yard pass from Bradford
Tucker 28 yard FG
Hill 15 yard pass from Hoyer

3rd Quarter
Van Dyke 36 yard pass from Hoyer
Johnson 5 yard pass from Bradford

4th Quarter
Spiller 2 yard run

Notable Players
49ers QB Sam Bradford 23-31, 206 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs
Bills QB Brian Hoyer 13-25, 215 yards, 2 TDs
49ers WR Andre Johnson 10 rec for 114 yards, 2 TDs
Bills K Justin Tucker 2-4 FGAs
Bills OLB Jelani Jenkins 6 tackles, 1 sack, 1 FF, 1 INT
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Hawks - 24
Falcons - 12

1st Quarter
Woods 2 yard pass from Rivers
Rucker 46 yard FG

2nd Quarter
Graham 26 yard FG

3rd Quarter
Rucker 40 yard FG

4th Quarter
Hill 1 yard run
White 32 yard pass from Savage
Hobbs 5 yard run + failed 2 pointer

Notable Players
Falcons HB Lonta Hobbs 32 carries for 149 yards, 1 TD
Hawks OLB Za'Darius Smith 10 tackles, 1 sack
Hawks DT Amobi Okoye 2 tackles, 2 sacks (set B8NFLL record for sacks in a season with one game still to play)
Falcons MLB Alvin Williams 7 tackles, 1 sack
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Wildcats - 17
Seahawks - 34

1st Quarter
Mendenhall 2 yard pass from Cousins

2nd Quarter
Mendenhall 1 yard run
Guthrie 5 yard pass from Murray
Jackson 29 yard pass from Cousins
Nendick 46 yard FG

3rd Quarter
Nendick 51 yard FG
Edinger 39 yard FG

4th Quarter
Holmes 22 yard pass from Murray
Moncrief 51 yard pass from Cousins

Notable Players
Wildcats QB Aaron Murray 14-27, 145 yards, 2 TDs
Seahawks QB Kirk Cousins 19-33, 363 yards, 3 TDs
Seahawjs HB Reshard Mendenhall 2 total TDs
Seahawks WR DeSean Jackson 7 rec for 216 yards, 1 TD
Wildcats MLB Brock Hayden 6 tackles, 1 sack
Seahawks FS Byron Jones 5 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 FF
Seahawks DT Matt Kroul 2 tackles, 2 sacks
Seahawks OLB Clay Shields 1 sack, 1 FF
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Cowboys - 10
Pumpkins - 16

1st Quarter
Hancock 3 yard run

2nd Quarter
Moore 32 yard FG

3rd Quarter
Moore 26 and 41 yard FGs

4th Quarter
Gano 29 yard FG
Watkins 12 yard pass from Young

Notable Players
Cowboys QB Vince Young 17-30, 165 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 5 rushes for 43 yards, 1 fumble
Cowboys WR Sammy Watkins 9 rec for 100 yards, 1 TD
Cowboys SS Troy Polamalu 9 tackles, 1 sack
Cowboys OLB Tom Burton 8 tackles, 1 INT
Cowboys DT Jerrell Powe 6 tackles, 3 sacks
Pumpkins SS Michael Huff 8 tackles, 1 FF
Pumpkins MLB Preston Stephens 5 tackles, 1 sack
Pumpkins MLB Jerod Mayo 2 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 FF
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Rams - 10
Patriots - 19

1st Quarter
Crosby 29 yard FG

2nd Quarter
Janikowski 29 yard FG
Hooper 11 yard pass from Tannehill

3rd Quarter
Crosby 40 yard FG

4th Quarter
Leggett 9 yard pass from Thomas
Crosby 41 and 51 yard FGs

Notable Players
Pats FS Greg Blue 2 tackles, 1 sack, 1 FF
Pats CB Darrell Cruz 2 INTs
Pats DT Brandon Williams 2 sacks
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Redskins - 14
Bears - 10

1st Quarter
Aguayo 41 yard FG
Gresham 1 yard run

2nd Quarter
Whitehead 3 yard pass from Quinn

3rd Quarter
Chung 26 yard INT

Notable Players
Bears QB Zach Mettenberger 13-25, 106 yards, 2 INTs
Redskins HB Terrence Whitehead 134 total yards (92 rush, 42 rec), 1 TD
Redskins SS Patrick Chunt 6 tackles, 1 INT for TD
Redskins OLB Shaq Thompson 4 tackles, 1 sack, 1 INT
Redskins DE J.J. Watt 2 sacks
Bears MLB Chris Borland 13 tackles
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Steelers - 20
Dolphins - 27

1st Quarter
Brown 39 yard FG
Green 2 yard pass from Keller
Carpenter 42 yard FG

2nd Quarter
Brown 25 and 37 yard FGs

3rd Quarter
Woodhead 12 yard run

4th Quarter
Rodgers 4 yard run + 2 pointer
Carpenter 27 yard FG
Brown 28 yard FG
O'Neal 31 yard pass from Gant

Notable Players
Dolphins K Kris Brown 4-4 FGAs
Dolphins OLB Daryl Smith 8 tackles, 1 sack
Dolphins FS Tony Jefferson 6 tackles, 1 FF
Dolphins OLB D.J. Williams 4 tackles, 1 sack, 1 INT
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Jaguars - 37 OT
Bengals - 34

1st Quarter
Wilhoit 26 yard FG
Akers 51 yard FG
Powers-Neal 2 yard run

2nd Quarter
Akers 52 yard FG
Campbell 12 yard FR
Hogan 4 yard pass from Locker
Celek 12 yard pass from Smith

3rd Quarter
Clayton 1 yard pass from Smith
Jones 21 yard pass from Locker
Wilhoit 28 yard FG

4th Quarter
Jones 2 yard pass from Smith
Moreno 1 yard run

OT
Akers 34 yard FG

Notable Players
Jags QB Alex Smith 18-35, 159 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT
Bengals QB Jake Locker 18-23, 210 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT
Bengals HB Knowshone Moreno 213 total yards (166 rush, 47 rec), 1 TD
Bengals WR Mike Williams 8 rec for 124 yards
Jags CB Tracy Porter 6 tackles, 1 FF
Jags MLB Rey Maualuga 5 tackles, 1 INT
Jags DE Cordero Moore 4 tackles, 5 sacks, 2 FFs
Jags DE Ty Warren 4 tackles, 2 sacks
Bengals SS Greg Threat 8 tackles, 1 FF
Bengals MLB Kiko Alonso 3 tackles, 1sack, 1 INT
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Panthers - 9
Raiders - 41

1st Quarter
Marshall 2 yard pass from Dalton
Cundiff 51 yard FG

2nd Quarter
Washington 9 yard run
Jones 50 yard FG

3rd Quarter
C. Davis 1 yard run + missed XP
Cundiff 47 yard FG

4th Quarter
Washington 1 and 3 yard runs
Baldwin 51 yard pass from Dalton

Notable Players
Raiders QB Andy Dalton 17-28, 236 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT
Raiders HB Bobby Washington (former Panthers 1st round pick) 29 carries for 138 yards, 3 TDs
Raiders WR Doug Baldwin 5 rec for 135 yards, 1 TD
Panthers MLB Austin Zepphuhar 12 tackles, 1 sack
Panthers OLB Matt Douglas 5 tackles, 2 sacks
Raiders MLB Vontaze Burfict 3 tackles, 1 sack, 1 INT
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Week 17 Players of the Week
Offense - Seahawks QB Kirk Cousins
Defense - Colts OLB Paul Kruger (3 tackles, 1 sack, 3 INTs)

Game of the Week
Raiders at Hawks

Week 17 will be live simmed on Wednesday, November 27th
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AFC Playoff Picture

Playoff Teams
1. Hawks 12-3 (clinched playoffs, AFC West leader)
2. Dolphins 10-5 (won AFC East)
3. Jaguars 9-6 (won AFC South)
4. Ravens 9-6 (won AFC North)
5. Raiders 11-4 (clinched playoffs, Wild Card #1)
6. Patriots 9-6 (Wild Card #2)

In Contention
7. Broncos 9-6
8. Colts 8-7 (likely eliminated)

Eliminated
9. Bengals 7-8
10. Pioneers 7-8
11. Steelers 6-9
12. Browns 5-10
13. Bills 5-10
14. Titans 4-11
15. Chiefs 4-11
16. Jets 4-11

Hawks vs Raiders decides the #1 and #5 seed. Winner takes the division and home field advantage through playoffs. Loser goes on the road against one of Jags/Ravens.

If the Dolphins win, they earn the #2 seed.

If the Dolphins lose, Jags win, and Ravens win, the Dolphins are #2, Jags #3, and Ravens #4

If the Dolphins lose, Jags win, Ravens lose, the Dolphins are #2, Jags #3, and Ravens #4

If the Dolphins lose, Jags lose, Ravens win, the Ravens are #2, Dolphins #3, and Jags #4

If the Jags and Ravens both lose, the tiebreaker goes to common games record, and I don't feel like researching that.

I want to say that the Colts are eliminated due to tiebreakers against the Pats, but to be safe, they would have to win and Pats/Broncos both lose in order to make it in.

If the Pats win, they earn the second wild card.

If the Pats lose and Broncos win, the Broncos earn the second wild card.

If the Pats and Broncos both lose, the Pats earn the second wild card assuming the Colts would still be eliminated (three-way tie makes Colts tiebreaker over Broncos meaningless and Pats would top the others with a 7-5 conference record).
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NFC Playoff Picture

Playoff Teams
1. Packers 11-4 (won NFC North)
2. Buccaneers 10-5 (won NFC South)
3. Cowboys 10-5 (lead NFC East)
4. Rams 8-7 (lead NFC West)
5. Vikings 10-5 (clinched Wild Card #1)
6. Pumpkins 9-6 (likely clinched wild card #2)

In Contention
7. Seahawks 8-7
8. Wildcats 8-7

Eliminated
9. Giants 8-7
10. Redskins 8-7
11. Falcons 6-9
12. 49ers 6-9
13. Lightning 5-10
14. Bears 5-10
15. Panthers 5-10
16. Lions 4-11

Pumpkins Week 16 win eliminates the Giants and Redskins as the Pumpkins hold a tiebreaker over both (5-1 in NFC East, 2-0 against Redskins) whether or not it is a two-team or 3+ team tie for final wild card spot.

Packers earn home field through NFC with a win or Bucs loss

Buccaneers earn home field through NFC with a win and Packers loss

NFC West winner and Vikings are locked into the #4 and #5 seed respectively and will face off in the Wild Card round

Cowboys win NFC East with a win or Pumpkins loss

A Cowboys loss and Pumpkins win results in a Pumpkins NFC East crown

Pumpkins unquestionably clinch playoff spot with a win. However, I am pretty sure that they already have and are locked into the 6 seed. They have the Rams to thank for that. Because there is no scenario where the Rams match the Pumpkins record and not win the NFC West, the Rams win over the Pumpkins in Week 15 will come back to haunt the Pumpkins. Their only potential opponents are the Wildcats and Seahawks. In common games between Pumpkins and Wildcats, the Pumpkins will have gone at worst 3-2 (W vs Redskins x2, W vs Bears, L Rams, TBD Bucs) and Wildcats went (W/L vs Rams, W vs Bears, L vs Redskins, L vs Bucs). Pumpkins will go no worse than 7-5 in the NFC and the Seahawks no better than 6-6, so the Seahawks lose out on that tiebreaker.

Rams win and they win NFC West.

Rams lose, Wildcats win, Wildcats win NFC West no matter what the Seahawks do.

Rams lose, Wildcats lose, Seahawks win, Seahawks win NFC West

If all three teams lose, Rams should win NFC West due to division record eliminating Seahawks and common games record eliminating Wildcats.
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Well there goes my season

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Oh lord, 6 wins and even if I lose I might not have a top 10 pick. Win and it could be like 14. Bah

Here's hoping I at least salvage a winning season instead of a .500 one

God dammit, just 1 win over the pumpkins is all I needed.

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Oh god the return of Mettenberger. And Gresham got another rushing TD...sounds like potential injuries to starting QB and HB (again)!

If Mettenberger is considered to be a qualified passer at the end of Week 17, he will have the lowest passer rating in B8NFLL history.
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God I hope I beat the Bills to end with a positive win rate
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It shouldn't be too hard to win against a team ranked 31st on offense, 28th on defense, and a turnover differential around -10 at home, but stranger things have happened.
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I just lost to the Bills so...

KCF0107 posted...

It shouldn't be too hard to win against a team ranked 31st on offense, 28th on defense, and a turnover differential around -10 at home, but stranger things have happened.

I'd argue stranger things have happened to me this very season.
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So for those who want cliff notes on the playoff picture (I realized an error that I made):

- Only non-clinched spots up for grabs are AFC second wild card (Pats or Broncos) and NFC West winner (Rams, Wildcats, or Seahawks).

- Hawks vs Raiders outcome will decide AFC West and #1 AFC seed and first wild card and #5 seed.

- Dolphins can be #2 or 3 seed

- Jags can be #3 or 4 seed

- Ravens can be #2 or 4 seed

- Packers can be #1 or 2 seed

- Bucs can be #1, 2, or 3 seed

- Cowboys can be #2, 3, or 5 seed

- NFC West winner will be #4 seed

- Vikings can be #5 or 6 seed (erroneously locked them at #5 but will be #6 if Pumpkins win NFC East and Vikings lose)

- Pumpkins can be #2, 3, or 6 seed
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ShatteredElysium posted...

Oh lord, 6 wins and even if I lose I might not have a top 10 pick. Win and it could be like 14. Bah

It is my destiny to go 6-10 forever so I have a feeling Im gonna win

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LiquidOshawott posted...

ShatteredElysium posted...

Oh lord, 6 wins and even if I lose I might not have a top 10 pick. Win and it could be like 14. Bah

It is my destiny to go 6-10 forever so I have a feeling Im gonna win

Well I'm 0-5 in my last 5 games so I think you're probably the favorite

KCF0107 posted...

It shouldn't be too hard to win against a team ranked 31st on offense, 28th on defense, and a turnover differential around -10 at home, but stranger things have happened.

Someone hasn't been paying atention to the team that's 2 games above .500 in their last 8 after getting back (some) players from injury!

Edit: Not to mention we had a 3 game win-streak... before tonight.

I'm not someone who judges teams based on record but one who encompasses team and individual performances.

The Bills are arguably the worst team in the league. The Titans and Chiefs are also in that discussion, but the Titans have a stunningly good turnover differential and the Chiefs...well maybe it is the Chiefs. Bills have had pretty good special teams play this season at least.
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Oh, I just noticed that Garza is done for the season. I have so many guys on IR, I've lost track. Did I already IR him, or is that new?

New
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Oh hey Richardson is up to 12 Sacks in his rookie season. That's pretty good considering I've only ever had 3 players get double digit sacks in a season before and they were all linebackers (Tufts 10, Laurinaitis 11, McClain 13)

So I guess I may have 1 positive to pull from the season and hopefully he's increased in rating a little despite the losing because lord knows the rest of the team must have regressed

Your defense has been fine. I would expect little performance-based regression on that side when I update next season.
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Granted sacks aren't everything but the 8th DE off the board is the one on the sacks leaderboard.

Is Melvin Gordon a shoe in for offensive rookie of the year or is his yardage based on ridiculous volume? I think I remember you saying his YPC wasn't great?

As everyone knows due to hearing it from me ad nauseum, the keys to success are defense and running the ball. All but one of the previous 22 Super Bowl participants had both a Top 16 rushing attack and Top 10 Defense. Assuming these rankings more or less hold, your Super Bowl contenders this season will be among the following teams:

Cowboys
Dolphins
Hawks
Raiders
Vikings
Pats/Broncos

Jags and Packers narrowly miss out
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ShatteredElysium posted...

Granted sacks aren't everything but the 8th DE off the board is the one on the sacks leaderboard.

Is Melvin Gordon a shoe in for offensive rookie of the year or is his yardage based on ridiculous volume? I think I remember you saying his YPC wasn't great?

He is a shoe-in for Madden. I will certainly not be voting for him in the user ballot given he has more than 100 carries than the second highest in the league and has the third-worst YPC in the league. Ballot will probably be him, Beckham Jr., either Locker or Murray at QB and two OL replacement choices (G Duvernay and OT Conklin most likely). I honestly don't know the criteria each user has when they decide who to vote for, but I have a feeling one of the OL will win if users who do submit ballots don't dismiss OL based on principle. Conklin might lead the league in blocks and Durvernay might have the most absurd block:sack ratio we have had from an interior OL.
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I think that says more about how having a good defense is a must.

At least 7 out of the top 10 defenses are playoff teams/contenders (and presumably there's others that don't meet the top 16 rushing criteria)

I guess the better question is this. Is there a Top 10 Defense that isn't a playoff contender? And is there a Top 10 Rushing team that isn't a playoff contender?

Good lord. This season has taken a drastic turn for the not-good in the second half. 7 losses in a row...
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Yeah, you and the Jets sat at 4-4 and have each lost seven straight and in contention for the #1 pick. Jets were hammered with the most injuries in the league by a decent margin while your offense completely cratered.

On the plus side, we might have our 12th different team pick #1 in as many seasons (remember there was no NFL Draft in the inaugural season).

If the Jets do pick #1, they will far and away be the best team to pick #1 overall. They have the the #20 O and D, a positive turnover differential, and several players are/were having career best seasons to where they will be on award ballots and maybe named to the Pro Bowl.
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Oh, weren't we on a streak of the number 1 pick every year always being a brand new team since the league started? How is that looking?

As the conference seeding indicates, Jets and Lions are fighting for #1. If they both lose, I don't know who gets it, but it would guarantee a 12th team in as many seasons picking #1.

I edited this in my above post, but do not forget that our first NFL Draft was not until S2.
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Really thought that the Bears, Titans, or Bills would be up for the #1 pick. Glad it's not me though!

Anyone with 5 or fewer wins still has a chance, but the Jets and Lions are "in control" of their #1 pick destiny, especially the Jets since we know they have a higher priority than the Chiefs and Titans. Lions are unknown and could be fourth in that pecking order, but at least we know they have a chance if they lose
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Are Madden cross conference schedule cyclical or does it just do whatever the hell it wants? I know the AFC North played the NFC East this season, West last season, South the year before that. I can't remember the last time I played the NFC North though.

It is cyclical. I distinctly remember playing the NFC East in S3, S7, and S11.
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Hmm, I wonder if it also syncs up in conference fixtures on the same schedule which would mean it only needed 4 fixture patterns for the league with home/away variance

NFC East - 6-7 Wins + 6 Wins
NFC West - 10 Wins + 10 Wins
NFC South - 10 Wins + 9 Wins
NFC North - 7 Wins

That also means I am 0-8 against the NFC East since I know I went 6-0 in the AFC North in the year I ended up 6-10 and I went 0-4 against them this season