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Bio1590 11/19/19 9:39:18 PM #1:	https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests-usa/u-s-senate-unanimously-passes-hong-kong-rights-bill-idUSKBN1XT2VR The U.S. Senate, in a unanimous vote, passed legislation on Tuesday aimed at protecting human rights in Hong Kong amid Chinas crackdown on a pro-democracy protest movement that has gripped the vital financial center for months. Following the voice vote by senators, the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act now goes to the House of Representatives, which earlier approved its own version of the measure. The two chambers will have to work out their differences before any legislation can be sent to President Donald Trump for his consideration. The Senate then passed a second bill, also unanimously, that would ban the export of certain munitions to Hong Kong police forces. It bans the export of items such as tear gas, pepper spray, rubber bullets and stun guns. There was no immediate response from the White House, which has yet to say whether Trump would sign or veto the Hong Kong Human Rights bill. A U.S. official said recently that no decision had been made. That official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said if the measure gets to Trumps desk there would likely be an intense debate between Trump aides worried that it could undermine trade talks with China and those who believe it is the time to take a stand against China on human rights and Hong Kongs status. The Chinese embassy did not immediately respond to a request for comment. At the start of the brief Senate debate, Republican Senator Marco Rubio said, The people of Hong Kong see whats coming - they see the steady effort to erode the autonomy and their freedoms, as he accused Beijing of violence and repression. Demonstrators are angry at what they see as Chinese meddling in the freedoms promised to Hong Kong when Britain returned its longtime colony to Chinese rule in 1997. Senate aides said they expected the legislation eventually would move forward as an amendment to a massive defense bill, the National Defense Authorization Act, expected to pass Congress later this year. Under the Senate bill, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo would have to certify at least once a year that Hong Kong retains enough autonomy to qualify for special U.S. trading consideration that bolsters its status as a world financial center. It also would provide sanctions against officials responsible for human rights violations in Hong Kong. Demonstrators in Hong Kong have been protesting in the streets amid increasing violence and fears that Beijing will ratchet up its response to stop the civil disobedience. Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer said following passage of the bill: We have sent a message to President Xi (Jinping): Your suppression of freedom, whether in Hong Kong, in northwest China or in anywhere else, will not stand. You cannot be a great leader - and you cannot be a great country - when you oppose freedom, when you are so brutal to the people of Hong Kong, young and old, who are protesting. Xinjiang, in Northwest China, is home to many mostly Muslim Uighurs, many of whom have been detained in what China says are education camps, but which the United States has called concentration camps. Chinas Foreign Ministry said this month that China had lodged stern representations with the United States about the legislation and urged that it not be passed into law, saying it would not only harm Chinese interests and China-U.S. relations, but the United States own interests too. It said China would inevitably take vigorous measures to firmly respond, to staunchly safeguard our sovereignty, security and development interests. Trump prompted questions about his commitment to protecting freedoms in Hong Kong when he referred in August to its mass street protests as riots that were a matter for China to deal with. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https:/i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:930398813] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests-usa/u-s-senate-unanimously-passes-hong-kong-rights-bill-idUSKBN1XT2VR <quote>The U.S. Senate, in a unanimous vote, passed legislation on Tuesday aimed at protecting human rights in Hong Kong amid Chinas crackdown on a pro-democracy protest movement that has gripped the vital financial center for months. Following the voice vote by senators, the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act now goes to the House of Representatives, which earlier approved its own version of the measure. The two chambers will have to work out their differences before any legislation can be sent to President Donald Trump for his consideration. The Senate then passed a second bill, also unanimously, that would ban the export of certain munitions to Hong Kong police forces. It bans the export of items such as tear gas, pepper spray, rubber bullets and stun guns. There was no immediate response from the White House, which has yet to say whether Trump would sign or veto the Hong Kong Human Rights bill. A U.S. official said recently that no decision had been made. That official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said if the measure gets to Trumps desk there would likely be an intense debate between Trump aides worried that it could undermine trade talks with China and those who believe it is the time to take a stand against China on human rights and Hong Kongs status. The Chinese embassy did not immediately respond to a request for comment. At the start of the brief Senate debate, Republican Senator Marco Rubio said, The people of Hong Kong see whats coming - they see the steady effort to erode the autonomy and their freedoms, as he accused Beijing of violence and repression. Demonstrators are angry at what they see as Chinese meddling in the freedoms promised to Hong Kong when Britain returned its longtime colony to Chinese rule in 1997. Senate aides said they expected the legislation eventually would move forward as an amendment to a massive defense bill, the National Defense Authorization Act, expected to pass Congress later this year. Under the Senate bill, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo would have to certify at least once a year that Hong Kong retains enough autonomy to qualify for special U.S. trading consideration that bolsters its status as a world financial center. It also would provide sanctions against officials responsible for human rights violations in Hong Kong. Demonstrators in Hong Kong have been protesting in the streets amid increasing violence and fears that Beijing will ratchet up its response to stop the civil disobedience. Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer said following passage of the bill: We have sent a message to President Xi (Jinping): Your suppression of freedom, whether in Hong Kong, in northwest China or in anywhere else, will not stand. You cannot be a great leader - and you cannot be a great country - when you oppose freedom, when you are so brutal to the people of Hong Kong, young and old, who are protesting. Xinjiang, in Northwest China, is home to many mostly Muslim Uighurs, many of whom have been detained in what China says are education camps, but which the United States has called concentration camps. Chinas Foreign Ministry said this month that China had lodged stern representations with the United States about the legislation and urged that it not be passed into law, saying it would not only harm Chinese interests and China-U.S. relations, but the United States own interests too. It said China would inevitably take vigorous measures to firmly respond, to staunchly safeguard our sovereignty, security and development interests. Trump prompted questions about his commitment to protecting freedoms in Hong Kong when he referred in August to its mass street protests as riots that were a matter for China to deal with.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 11/19/19 9:39:31 PM #2:	Trump has since called on China to handle the issue humanely, while warning that if anything bad happened in Hong Kong, it could be bad for talks to end a trade war between the worlds two largest economies. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https:/i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:930398823] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote><quote> Trump has since called on China to handle the issue humanely, while warning that if anything bad happened in Hong Kong, it could be bad for talks to end a trade war between the worlds two largest economies.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlisLandale 11/19/19 9:40:40 PM #4:	Trump is too much of a pussy to not veto it, but if he passes it Ill concede he can do something right >_> --- https://i.imgtc.com/8ePXf9B.gif <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:930398875] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Trump is too much of a pussy to not veto it, but if he passes it Ill concede he can do something right >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 11/19/19 9:41:29 PM #5:	Thus starts the March to WW3. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:930398913] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Thus starts the March to WW3. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 11/19/19 9:41:56 PM #6:	Bio1590 posted... intense debate between Trump aides worried that it could undermine trade talks with China and those who believe it is the time to take a stand against China on human rights and Hong Kongs status. so hard not to shill for china --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:930398933] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>intense debate between Trump aides worried that it could undermine trade talks with China and those who believe it is the time to take a stand against China on human rights and Hong Kongs status. </quote> so hard not to shill for china</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crazyman93 11/19/19 9:42:21 PM #7:	What a pointless bill. We're not gonna do anything to China, even if we didn't get a ton of products from them, they have nukes. I'd say no one wants to risk a nuclear war, but every time a weapon has been called too terrible to be used, another war happened and proved people wrong. The second bill is equally pointless, China has a strong arms industry all their own. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:930398955] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>What a pointless bill. We're not gonna do anything to China, even if we didn't get a ton of products from them, they have nukes. I'd say no one wants to risk a nuclear war, but every time a weapon has been called too terrible to be used, another war happened and proved people wrong. The second bill is equally pointless, China has a strong arms industry all their own.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DisneyFan462 11/19/19 9:43:09 PM #8:	Good. Democracy is what all humans deserve, not communism or socialism --- Disney+ subscribed Netflix cancelled <cite>DisneyFan462 posted [p:930398994] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Good. Democracy is what all humans deserve, not communism or socialism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 11/19/19 9:43:50 PM #9:	Duncanwii posted... Thus starts the March to WW3. If we can't make room for helping others, the destruction of the human race is not that big a deal --- https://i.imgtc.ws/sQvRQV7.jpg https://imgtc.ws/i/lT4IPDD.png <cite>Doe posted [p:930399029] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>Thus starts the March to WW3. </quote> If we can't make room for helping others, the destruction of the human race is not that big a deal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 11/19/19 9:44:42 PM #10:	Doe posted... If we can't make room for helping others, the destruction of the human race is not that big a deal The death of every human being is no big deal? People who say this disgust me. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:930399075] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite> <quote>If we can't make room for helping others, the destruction of the human race is not that big a deal</quote>The death of every human being is no big deal? People who say this disgust me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 11/19/19 9:46:01 PM #11:	Crazyman93 posted... What a pointless bill. We're not gonna do anything to China, even if we didn't get a ton of products from them, they have nukes. I'd say no one wants to risk a nuclear war, but every time a weapon has been called too terrible to be used, another war happened and proved people wrong. The second bill is equally pointless, China has a strong arms industry all their own. You could say the same thing about the Armenian Genocide bill, which should have also been unanimous. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:930399135] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Crazyman93 posted... </cite> <quote>What a pointless bill. We're not gonna do anything to China, even if we didn't get a ton of products from them, they have nukes. I'd say no one wants to risk a nuclear war, but every time a weapon has been called too terrible to be used, another war happened and proved people wrong. The second bill is equally pointless, China has a strong arms industry all their own.</quote> You could say the same thing about the Armenian Genocide bill, which should have also been unanimous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 11/19/19 9:46:27 PM #12:	Duncanwii posted... Thus starts the March to WW3. China likes money. Nuclear War kind of makes money worthless. Theyre not going to go to literal war over this. --- https://i.imgtc.com/8ePXf9B.gif <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:930399154] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>Thus starts the March to WW3.</quote> China likes money. Nuclear War kind of makes money worthless. Theyre not going to go to literal war over this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 11/19/19 9:49:14 PM #13:	AlisLandale posted... China likes money. Nuclear War kind of makes money worthless. Theyre not going to go to literal war over this. They also like power. They arent going to let another country intrude into their business and make them look weak. Especially a political rival like the US. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:930399283] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>AlisLandale posted... </cite> <quote>China likes money. Nuclear War kind of makes money worthless. Theyre not going to go to literal war over this.</quote>They also like power. They arent going to let another country intrude into their business and make them look weak. Especially a political rival like the US. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 11/19/19 9:50:16 PM #14:	Kind of feels like a bit of a toothless gesture but it's still nice to see unity in what's clearly a fucked up situation --- https://youtu.be/rYy0o-J0x20?t=300 "Thank you, good night. I hope you're happy" <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:930399346] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Kind of feels like a bit of a toothless gesture but it's still nice to see unity in what's clearly a fucked up situation </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 11/19/19 9:50:47 PM #15:	Duncanwii posted... Thus starts the March to WW3. Good lord, shut the fuck up duncan You think that literally every diplomatic action ever taken is going to lead to ww3. --- she/her https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:930399363] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>Thus starts the March to WW3. </quote> Good lord, shut the fuck up duncan You think that literally every diplomatic action ever taken is going to lead to ww3.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
konokonohamaru 11/19/19 9:52:34 PM #16:	AlisLandale posted... Duncanwii posted... Thus starts the March to WW3. China likes money. Nuclear War kind of makes money worthless. Theyre not going to go to literal war over this. The people like money but Xi Jinping is literally power trippin' right now. He wrote his own manifesto called "Xi Jinping Thought". You can buy it on Amazon lol --- A very happy young man looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. <cite>konokonohamaru posted [p:930399454] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>AlisLandale posted...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>Thus starts the March to WW3.</quote> China likes money. Nuclear War kind of makes money worthless. Theyre not going to go to literal war over this. </quote> The people like money but Xi Jinping is literally power trippin' right now. He wrote his own manifesto called "Xi Jinping Thought". You can buy it on Amazon lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 11/19/19 9:52:42 PM #17:	PleaseClap posted... Good lord, shut the fuck up duncan You think that literally every diplomatic action ever taken is going to lead to ww3. You dont see how a bill taking the side of a group that China sees as rebels might lead to war? --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:930399459] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>PleaseClap posted... </cite> <quote>Good lord, shut the fuck up duncan You think that literally every diplomatic action ever taken is going to lead to ww3.</quote>You dont see how a bill taking the side of a group that China sees as rebels might lead to war? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 11/19/19 9:53:38 PM #18:	Fuck the Senate. They don't care when Americans get treated like shit. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:930399500] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Fuck the Senate. They don't care when Americans get treated like shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 11/19/19 9:54:15 PM #19:	Duncanwii posted... PleaseClap posted... Good lord, shut the fuck up duncan You think that literally every diplomatic action ever taken is going to lead to ww3. You dont see how a bill taking the side of a group that China sees as rebels might lead to war? No, because that's obviously not how international relations work at all --- she/her https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:930399524] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>PleaseClap posted... </cite> <quote>Good lord, shut the fuck up duncan You think that literally every diplomatic action ever taken is going to lead to ww3.</quote>You dont see how a bill taking the side of a group that China sees as rebels might lead to war? </quote> No, because that's obviously not how international relations work at all</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 11/19/19 9:55:03 PM #20:	AlisLandale posted... Trump is too much of a pussy to not veto it, but if he passes it Ill concede he can do something right >_> I don't think he can. If something passes unanimously he isn't given an option to veto. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:930399551] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>AlisLandale posted... </cite> <quote>Trump is too much of a pussy to not veto it, but if he passes it Ill concede he can do something right >_></quote>I don't think he can. If something passes unanimously he isn't given an option to veto. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 11/19/19 9:55:26 PM #21:	PleaseClap posted... Good lord, shut the fuck up duncan You think that literally every diplomatic action ever taken is going to lead to ww3. --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:930399568] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>PleaseClap posted... </cite> <quote>Good lord, shut the fuck up duncan You think that literally every diplomatic action ever taken is going to lead to ww3.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
davidg4l 11/19/19 9:55:33 PM #22:	Good to hear, but I'm not sure how much this'll do. I can only hope this'll lead to something bigger. --- http://error1355.com/ce/davidg4l.html <cite>davidg4l posted [p:930399573] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Good to hear, but I'm not sure how much this'll do. I can only hope this'll lead to something bigger. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
konokonohamaru 11/19/19 9:56:20 PM #23:	davidg4l posted... Good to hear, but I'm not sure how much this'll do. I can only hope this'll lead to something bigger. Like war? --- A very happy young man looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. <cite>konokonohamaru posted [p:930399599] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>davidg4l posted...</cite> <quote>Good to hear, but I'm not sure how much this'll do. I can only hope this'll lead to something bigger. </quote> Like war?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cookie Bag 11/19/19 9:56:57 PM #24:	Duncanwii posted... PleaseClap posted... Good lord, shut the fuck up duncan You think that literally every diplomatic action ever taken is going to lead to ww3. You dont see how a bill taking the side of a group that China sees as rebels might lead to war? Seriously just shut the fuck up, every time you post shows how clueless you are lmao --- https://imgur.com/gGHBH0F https://imgur.com/rNfCKIS https://imgur.com/Fj3wSVn https://imgur.com/OoMcG77 <cite>Cookie Bag posted [p:930399628] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>PleaseClap posted... </cite> <quote>Good lord, shut the fuck up duncan You think that literally every diplomatic action ever taken is going to lead to ww3.</quote>You dont see how a bill taking the side of a group that China sees as rebels might lead to war? </quote> Seriously just shut the fuck up, every time you post shows how clueless you are lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCEmanCometh 11/19/19 10:13:15 PM #25:	Crazyman93 posted... What a pointless bill. We're not gonna do anything to China, even if we didn't get a ton of products from them, they have nukes. I'd say no one wants to risk a nuclear war, but every time a weapon has been called too terrible to be used, another war happened and proved people wrong. The second bill is equally pointless, China has a strong arms industry all their own. These kinda bills are probably for brownie points. Now they could say they tried something. And if Trump vetos it then it could be used against him to say he doesn't care about Hong Kong. --- I'm not a doctor but I play one on CE. <cite>TheCEmanCometh posted [p:930400398] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Crazyman93 posted...</cite> <quote>What a pointless bill. We're not gonna do anything to China, even if we didn't get a ton of products from them, they have nukes. I'd say no one wants to risk a nuclear war, but every time a weapon has been called too terrible to be used, another war happened and proved people wrong. The second bill is equally pointless, China has a strong arms industry all their own.</quote> These kinda bills are probably for brownie points. Now they could say they tried something. And if Trump vetos it then it could be used against him to say he doesn't care about Hong Kong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGleamEyes 11/19/19 10:14:31 PM #26:	Tyranthraxus posted... AlisLandale posted... Trump is too much of a pussy to not veto it, but if he passes it Ill concede he can do something right >_> I don't think he can. If something passes unanimously he isn't given an option to veto. No, the President is always allowed to veto per the Constitution. Just that, if a bill has unanimous support, it'll pass with the required 2/3 majority anyways. "Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States: If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law." ---U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 7, clause 2 <cite>TheGleamEyes posted [p:930400448] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>AlisLandale posted... </cite> <quote>Trump is too much of a pussy to not veto it, but if he passes it Ill concede he can do something right >_></quote>I don't think he can. If something passes unanimously he isn't given an option to veto. </quote> No, the President is always allowed to veto per the Constitution. Just that, if a bill has unanimous support, it'll pass with the required 2/3 majority anyways. "Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States: If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law." ---U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 7, clause 2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 11/19/19 10:14:50 PM #27:	Chinese president sneezes Duncan: "So how bout that nuclear annihilation guys" --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:930400466] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Chinese president sneezes Duncan: "So how bout that nuclear annihilation guys" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tryhaptaward 11/19/19 10:16:09 PM #28:	cjsdowg posted... Fuck the Senate. They don't care when Americans get treated like shit. We get it, you hate Asians. <cite>Tryhaptaward posted [p:930400525] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote>Fuck the Senate. They don't care when Americans get treated like shit.</quote> We get it, you hate Asians.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crazyman93 11/19/19 10:44:30 PM #30:	Tyranthraxus posted... AlisLandale posted... Trump is too much of a pussy to not veto it, but if he passes it Ill concede he can do something right >_> I don't think he can. If something passes unanimously he isn't given an option to veto. The fact your vote counts the same as mine is an argument against democracy. s0nicfan posted... Crazyman93 posted... What a pointless bill. We're not gonna do anything to China, even if we didn't get a ton of products from them, they have nukes. I'd say no one wants to risk a nuclear war, but every time a weapon has been called too terrible to be used, another war happened and proved people wrong. The second bill is equally pointless, China has a strong arms industry all their own. You could say the same thing about the Armenian Genocide bill, which should have also been unanimous. I could, and do, while it isn't saber rattling, it's just dick waving. As someone said, brownie bill to make people feel good. I honestly doubt Trump would veto the Armenian Genocide bill, it makes him look good. Now the China bill depends on how he feels about China that second. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:930401686] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>AlisLandale posted... </cite> <quote>Trump is too much of a pussy to not veto it, but if he passes it Ill concede he can do something right >_></quote>I don't think he can. If something passes unanimously he isn't given an option to veto. </quote> The fact your vote counts the same as mine is an argument against democracy. s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Crazyman93 posted... </cite> <quote>What a pointless bill. We're not gonna do anything to China, even if we didn't get a ton of products from them, they have nukes. I'd say no one wants to risk a nuclear war, but every time a weapon has been called too terrible to be used, another war happened and proved people wrong. The second bill is equally pointless, China has a strong arms industry all their own.</quote> You could say the same thing about the Armenian Genocide bill, which should have also been unanimous. </quote> I could, and do, while it isn't saber rattling, it's just dick waving. As someone said, brownie bill to make people feel good. I honestly doubt Trump would veto the Armenian Genocide bill, it makes him look good. Now the China bill depends on how he feels about China that second.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 11/19/19 10:58:36 PM #31:	China should fuck right the hell off and more than one of their politicians needs to be executed. They should be happy nobody has openly declared war on them yet. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:930402247] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>China should fuck right the hell off and more than one of their politicians needs to be executed. They should be happy nobody has openly declared war on them yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
konokonohamaru 11/19/19 10:59:36 PM #32:	Everyone is too scared to declare war. That's a country of 1.2 billion people mang... for every one american there's 4 chinese --- A very happy young man looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. <cite>konokonohamaru posted [p:930402286] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Everyone is too scared to declare war. That's a country of 1.2 billion people mang... for every one american there's 4 chinese</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crazyman93 11/19/19 11:00:54 PM #33:	Rika_Furude posted... China should fuck right the hell off and more than one of their politicians needs to be executed. They should be happy nobody has openly declared war on them yet. They're not a third world nation. Declaring war on China will at the very least get the person who declares fucked up. At worst, it will start a nuclear war. And besides that, they know they economically ahve the world by the balls. They're not Australia, they can crash national economies with a few words. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:930402339] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>China should fuck right the hell off and more than one of their politicians needs to be executed. They should be happy nobody has openly declared war on them yet.</quote> They're not a third world nation. Declaring war on China will at the very least get the person who declares fucked up. At worst, it will start a nuclear war. And besides that, they know they economically ahve the world by the balls. They're not Australia, they can crash national economies with a few words.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 11/19/19 11:04:11 PM #34:	TheGleamEyes posted... Tyranthraxus posted... AlisLandale posted... Trump is too much of a pussy to not veto it, but if he passes it Ill concede he can do something right >_> I don't think he can. If something passes unanimously he isn't given an option to veto. No, the President is always allowed to veto per the Constitution. Just that, if a bill has unanimous support, it'll pass with the required 2/3 majority anyways. "Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States: If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law." ---U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 7, clause 2 Doesnt that just mean that mean he can veto it once, have it sent back for "reconsideration", and then if 2/3rds agree with the bill it becomes law and trump cannot veto again? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:930402479] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>TheGleamEyes posted...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote> AlisLandale posted... </cite> <quote> Trump is too much of a pussy to not veto it, but if he passes it Ill concede he can do something right >_> </quote>I don't think he can. If something passes unanimously he isn't given an option to veto. </quote> No, the President is always allowed to veto per the Constitution. Just that, if a bill has unanimous support, it'll pass with the required 2/3 majority anyways. "Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States: If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law." ---U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 7, clause 2</quote> Doesnt that just mean that mean he can veto it once, have it sent back for "reconsideration", and then if 2/3rds agree with the bill it becomes law and trump cannot veto again?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 11/19/19 11:04:57 PM #35:	Crazyman93 posted... Rika_Furude posted... China should fuck right the hell off and more than one of their politicians needs to be executed. They should be happy nobody has openly declared war on them yet. They're not a third world nation. Declaring war on China will at the very least get the person who declares fucked up. At worst, it will start a nuclear war. And besides that, they know they economically ahve the world by the balls. They're not Australia, they can crash national economies with a few words. Wars have been declared over less than human rights abuse --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:930402514] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Crazyman93 posted...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> China should fuck right the hell off and more than one of their politicians needs to be executed. They should be happy nobody has openly declared war on them yet.</quote> They're not a third world nation. Declaring war on China will at the very least get the person who declares fucked up. At worst, it will start a nuclear war. And besides that, they know they economically ahve the world by the balls. They're not Australia, they can crash national economies with a few words.</quote> Wars have been declared over less than human rights abuse</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 11/19/19 11:06:59 PM #36:	konokonohamaru posted... Everyone is too scared to declare war. That's a country of 1.2 billion people mang... for every one american there's 4 chinese Nukes dont care how many are in a country. They get fried all the same. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:930402611] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>konokonohamaru posted... </cite> <quote>Everyone is too scared to declare war. That's a country of 1.2 billion people mang... for every one american there's 4 chinese</quote>Nukes dont care how many are in a country. They get fried all the same. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 11/19/19 11:26:01 PM #37:	Duncanwii posted... Nukes there it is again --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:930403361] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>Nukes</quote> there it is again </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crazyman93 11/19/19 11:27:44 PM #38:	Rika_Furude posted... TheGleamEyes posted... Tyranthraxus posted... AlisLandale posted... Trump is too much of a pussy to not veto it, but if he passes it Ill concede he can do something right >_> I don't think he can. If something passes unanimously he isn't given an option to veto. No, the President is always allowed to veto per the Constitution. Just that, if a bill has unanimous support, it'll pass with the required 2/3 majority anyways. "Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States: If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law." ---U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 7, clause 2 Doesnt that just mean that mean he can veto it once, have it sent back for "reconsideration", and then if 2/3rds agree with the bill it becomes law and trump cannot veto again? That would be correct. However getting 2/3rds of Congress to agree on literally anything is really, really hard. Rika_Furude posted... Crazyman93 posted... Rika_Furude posted... China should fuck right the hell off and more than one of their politicians needs to be executed. They should be happy nobody has openly declared war on them yet. They're not a third world nation. Declaring war on China will at the very least get the person who declares fucked up. At worst, it will start a nuclear war. And besides that, they know they economically ahve the world by the balls. They're not Australia, they can crash national economies with a few words. Wars have been declared over less than human rights abuse No shit, just not on a nation with the military power China has. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:930403424] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>TheGleamEyes posted...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote> AlisLandale posted... </cite> <quote> Trump is too much of a pussy to not veto it, but if he passes it Ill concede he can do something right >_> </quote>I don't think he can. If something passes unanimously he isn't given an option to veto. </quote> No, the President is always allowed to veto per the Constitution. Just that, if a bill has unanimous support, it'll pass with the required 2/3 majority anyways. "Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States: If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law." ---U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 7, clause 2</quote> Doesnt that just mean that mean he can veto it once, have it sent back for "reconsideration", and then if 2/3rds agree with the bill it becomes law and trump cannot veto again?</quote> That would be correct. However getting 2/3rds of Congress to agree on literally anything is really, really hard. Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Crazyman93 posted...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> China should fuck right the hell off and more than one of their politicians needs to be executed. They should be happy nobody has openly declared war on them yet.</quote> They're not a third world nation. Declaring war on China will at the very least get the person who declares fucked up. At worst, it will start a nuclear war. And besides that, they know they economically ahve the world by the balls. They're not Australia, they can crash national economies with a few words.</quote> Wars have been declared over less than human rights abuse</quote> No shit, just not on a nation with the military power China has.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 11/19/19 11:28:08 PM #39:	MC_BatCommander posted... there it is again They're a legitimate threat and one people scoff at too easily. Mutually Assured Destruction doesnt work, we came perilously close to annihilation during the Cuban Missile Crisis in that we came one button press away from all out nuclear war. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:930403442] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>MC_BatCommander posted... </cite> <quote>there it is again</quote>They're a legitimate threat and one people scoff at too easily. Mutually Assured Destruction doesnt work, we came perilously close to annihilation during the Cuban Missile Crisis in that we came one button press away from all out nuclear war. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 11/19/19 11:28:41 PM #40:	Crazyman93 posted... That would be correct. However getting 2/3rds of Congress to agree on literally anything is really, really hard. Bro, you should look up at what unanimous means. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:930403460] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Crazyman93 posted... </cite> <quote>That would be correct. However getting 2/3rds of Congress to agree on literally anything is really, really hard.</quote> Bro, you should look up at what unanimous means. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crazyman93 11/19/19 11:29:27 PM #41:	ssjevot posted... Crazyman93 posted... That would be correct. However getting 2/3rds of Congress to agree on literally anything is really, really hard. Bro, you should look up at what unanimous means. Bro, you should read the whole chain of posts more carefully. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:930403485] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted...</cite> <quote>Crazyman93 posted... </cite> <quote>That would be correct. However getting 2/3rds of Congress to agree on literally anything is really, really hard.</quote> Bro, you should look up at what unanimous means. </quote> Bro, you should read the whole chain of posts more carefully.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 11/19/19 11:30:58 PM #42:	nice --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN https://imgur.com/hVC4i6j <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:930403529] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>nice </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 11/19/19 11:44:01 PM #43:	There something both parties can agree on. --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one <cite>creativerealms posted [p:930404003] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>There something both parties can agree on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 11/19/19 11:49:21 PM #44:	Duncanwii posted... nuclear he keeps doing it --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:930404196] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>nuclear</quote> he keeps doing it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 11/19/19 11:50:30 PM #45:	MC_BatCommander posted... he keeps doing it Did you actually read the post or just search the page for the word nuclear and quote the one word? --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:930404234] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>MC_BatCommander posted... </cite> <quote>he keeps doing it</quote>Did you actually read the post or just search the page for the word nuclear and quote the one word? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 11/19/19 11:52:08 PM #46:	"MAD doesn't work, as proven by this example that famously didn't end in nuclear war" --- she/her https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:930404294] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>"MAD doesn't work, as proven by this example that famously didn't end in nuclear war"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 11/20/19 12:15:49 AM #47:	Duncanwii posted... nuclear just stop --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:930405128] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>nuclear</quote> just stop </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrowaBarton7 11/20/19 12:21:59 AM #48:	The U.S. needs to give political asylum to all Hong Kong people and open the doors for them as refugees immediately. --- I am Iron Man <cite>TrowaBarton7 posted [p:930405350] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>The U.S. needs to give political asylum to all Hong Kong people and open the doors for them as refugees immediately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 11/20/19 12:22:07 AM #49:	Duncanwii posted... They're a legitimate threat and one people scoff at too easily. Mutually Assured Destruction doesnt work, we came perilously close to annihilation during the Cuban Missile Crisis in that we came one button press away from all out nuclear war. The closest we've ever been to nuclear war was... Well two incidents are tied, and neither of them are the Cuban missile crisis. The first is when Richard Nixon ordered a nuclear strike again the USSR. The general at the time simply ignored the order / told subordinates not to obey it until a day passed where Nixon changed his mind. The second was when the USSR's radars detected missile launches. The guy in charge was ordered to counter strike by launching everything and he told them no because he wasn't sure they were missiles. It later turned out to be an equipment malfunction. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:930405354] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>They're a legitimate threat and one people scoff at too easily. Mutually Assured Destruction doesnt work, we came perilously close to annihilation during the Cuban Missile Crisis in that we came one button press away from all out nuclear war.</quote> The closest we've ever been to nuclear war was... Well two incidents are tied, and neither of them are the Cuban missile crisis. The first is when Richard Nixon ordered a nuclear strike again the USSR. The general at the time simply ignored the order / told subordinates not to obey it until a day passed where Nixon changed his mind. The second was when the USSR's radars detected missile launches. The guy in charge was ordered to counter strike by launching everything and he told them no because he wasn't sure they were missiles. It later turned out to be an equipment malfunction. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 11/20/19 12:36:07 AM #51:	We can tell Saudia Arabia to go fuck itself if the government really wants to show it cares for human rights above all. You don't care about human rights if you pick and choose when to ignore them for your own interests. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:930405798] in US Senate ... [t:78178411]...</cite> <quote>We can tell Saudia Arabia to go fuck itself if the government really wants to show it cares for human rights above all. You don't care about human rights if you pick and choose when to ignore them for your own interests. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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