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konokonohamaru 11/18/19 2:30:27 PM #1:	https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/11/18/alan-mooregrouchiness-cantankerousness/ I think the impact of superheroes on popular culture is both tremendously embarrassing and not a little worrying. While these characters were originally perfectly suited to stimulating the imaginations of their twelve or thirteen year-old audience, todays franchised bermenschen, aimed at a supposedly adult audience, seem to be serving some kind of different function, and fulfilling different needs. Primarily, mass-market superhero movies seem to be abetting an audience who do not wish to relinquish their grip on (a) their relatively reassuring childhoods, or (b) the relatively reassuring 20th century. The continuing popularity of these movies to me suggests some kind of deliberate, self-imposed state of emotional arrest, combined with an numbing condition of cultural stasis that can be witnessed in comics, movies, popular music and, indeed, right across the cultural spectrum. The superheroes themselves largely written and drawn by creators who have never stood up for their own rights against the companies that employ them, much less the rights of a Jack Kirby or Jerry Siegel or Joe Schuster would seem to be largely employed as cowardice compensators, perhaps a bit like the handgun on the nightstand. I would also remark that save for a smattering of non-white characters (and non-white creators) these books and these iconic characters are still very much white supremacist dreams of the master race. In fact, I think that a good argument can be made for D.W. Griffiths Birth of a Nation as the first American superhero movie, and the point of origin for all those capes and masks. lol! Marvel REKT --- A very happy young man looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. <cite>konokonohamaru posted [p:930325679] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/11/18/alan-mooregrouchiness-cantankerousness/ <quote>I think the impact of superheroes on popular culture is both tremendously embarrassing and not a little worrying. While these characters were originally perfectly suited to stimulating the imaginations of their twelve or thirteen year-old audience, todays franchised bermenschen, aimed at a supposedly adult audience, seem to be serving some kind of different function, and fulfilling different needs. Primarily, mass-market superhero movies seem to be abetting an audience who do not wish to relinquish their grip on (a) their relatively reassuring childhoods, or (b) the relatively reassuring 20th century. The continuing popularity of these movies to me suggests some kind of deliberate, self-imposed state of emotional arrest, combined with an numbing condition of cultural stasis that can be witnessed in comics, movies, popular music and, indeed, right across the cultural spectrum. The superheroes themselves largely written and drawn by creators who have never stood up for their own rights against the companies that employ them, much less the rights of a Jack Kirby or Jerry Siegel or Joe Schuster would seem to be largely employed as cowardice compensators, perhaps a bit like the handgun on the nightstand. I would also remark that save for a smattering of non-white characters (and non-white creators) these books and these iconic characters are still very much white supremacist dreams of the master race. In fact, I think that a good argument can be made for D.W. Griffiths Birth of a Nation as the first American superhero movie, and the point of origin for all those capes and masks.</quote> lol! Marvel REKT</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 11/18/19 2:31:40 PM #2:	Didn't he get super fucking salty when the Watchmen movie was made? --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:930325746] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Didn't he get super fucking salty when the Watchmen movie was made?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheDreadedWave 11/18/19 2:32:02 PM #3:	konokonohamaru posted... Marvel REKT Yeah I'm sure they're wiping away all the tears with their billions of dollars --- "I am Ferdinand Von Aegir" - Ferdinand Von Aegir <cite>TheDreadedWave posted [p:930325759] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>konokonohamaru posted... </cite> <quote>Marvel REKT</quote>Yeah I'm sure they're wiping away all the tears with their billions of dollars </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
konokonohamaru 11/18/19 2:32:03 PM #4:	I would have been too. The movie doesn't do the graphic novel justice --- A very happy young man looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. <cite>konokonohamaru posted [p:930325761] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>I would have been too. The movie doesn't do the graphic novel justice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/18/19 2:33:01 PM #5:	Guy shits all over industry that shit all over him. More at 11. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:930325813] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Guy shits all over industry that shit all over him. More at 11.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 11/18/19 2:33:08 PM #6:	k <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:930325822] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>k</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 11/18/19 2:34:04 PM #7:	Alan Moore hates everything. --- https://imgur.com/vDci4hD <cite>Ivynn posted [p:930325859] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Alan Moore hates everything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fusespliff 11/18/19 2:34:13 PM #8:	"The legend Alan Moore" has been doing little of note for several decades, he tries to stay relevant by bitching about literally everything related to comics. --- ... <cite>fusespliff posted [p:930325866] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>"The legend Alan Moore" has been doing little of note for several decades, he tries to stay relevant by bitching about literally everything related to comics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 11/18/19 2:34:46 PM #9:	https://www.goliath.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Alan_Moore_327.jpg --- "life is overrated" - Seiichi Omori 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:930325896] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>https://www.goliath.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Alan_Moore_327.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 11/18/19 2:34:48 PM #10:	welp i guess i don't like the hulk anymore! --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended <cite>The Trent posted [p:930325899] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>welp i guess i don't like the hulk anymore!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lebronwon 11/18/19 2:35:17 PM #11:	He explained why he mad in this part of article. Im afraid that for a few years now, I have felt that since I am apparently not allowed to own the work that I created in the same manner that an author in a more grown-up and worthwhile field might expect to do, and since my protests at having my work stolen from me are interpreted by a surely young-at-heart and non-unionised audience as evidence of my grouchiness and cantankerousness, then the only active position that is left to me is to disown the works in question. --- Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 <cite>Lebronwon posted [p:930325921] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>He explained why he mad in this part of article. Im afraid that for a few years now, I have felt that since I am apparently not allowed to own the work that I created in the same manner that an author in a more grown-up and worthwhile field might expect to do, and since my protests at having my work stolen from me are interpreted by a surely young-at-heart and non-unionised audience as evidence of my grouchiness and cantankerousness, then the only active position that is left to me is to disown the works in question.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/18/19 2:35:44 PM #12:	fusespliff posted... "The legend Alan Moore" has been doing little of note for several decades, he tries to stay relevant by bitching about literally everything related to comics. The Kaepernick of comic books. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:930325939] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>fusespliff posted...</cite> <quote>"The legend Alan Moore" has been doing little of note for several decades, he tries to stay relevant by bitching about literally everything related to comics.</quote> The Kaepernick of comic books.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 11/18/19 2:35:54 PM #13:	So he made batman killing joke for 10 year olds to read? ~~The Joker chains Gordon to one of the park's rides and forces him to view blown-up photos of Barbara, lying nude on the floor of her apartment following the shooting.~~ Watchman as well? He literally wanted 10 year olds to stare at a blue penis? Ewww what a sicko <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:930325948] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>So he made batman killing joke for 10 year olds to read? The Joker chains Gordon to one of the park's rides and forces him to view blown-up photos of Barbara, lying nude on the floor of her apartment following the shooting. Watchman as well? He literally wanted 10 year olds to stare at a blue penis? Ewww what a sicko </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 11/18/19 2:36:53 PM #14:	Wasn't Watchmen his criticism of the direction superhero media was going in? It's not like he suddenly became the "old man yells at cloud" of the comic industry recently. --- Tell me how you feel upon learning that I write MLP fanfiction. <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:930326005] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Wasn't Watchmen his criticism of the direction superhero media was going in? It's not like he suddenly became the "old man yells at cloud" of the comic industry recently. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EvalAngell 11/18/19 2:37:01 PM #15:	I heard Alan Moore was the inspiration for Pirates of the Caribbean's Davy Jones. --- Perfectly balanced. <cite>EvalAngell posted [p:930326011] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>I heard Alan Moore was the inspiration for Pirates of the Caribbean's Davy Jones. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fan357 11/18/19 2:38:32 PM #16:	Hes just salty because the Watchmen movie had a better ending. --- Never forget where you came from. <cite>fan357 posted [p:930326083] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Hes just salty because the Watchmen movie had a better ending. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/18/19 2:41:34 PM #17:	Solid Sonic posted... Wasn't Watchmen his criticism of the direction superhero media was going in? It's not like he suddenly became the "old man yells at cloud" of the comic industry recently. Watchmen behind-the-scenes, in a nutshell: "DC is paying me money to kill off all the Charlton characters? Awesome!" "Oh, they want to keep the Charlton guys, Guess I'll make up new ones." "What do you mean 'work for hire'? These are my OCs - do not steal!" "WTF, Dave? Why aren't you angry too?!" <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:930326225] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Solid Sonic posted...</cite> <quote>Wasn't Watchmen his criticism of the direction superhero media was going in? It's not like he suddenly became the "old man yells at cloud" of the comic industry recently. </quote> Watchmen behind-the-scenes, in a nutshell: "DC is paying me money to kill off all the Charlton characters? Awesome!" "Oh, they want to keep the Charlton guys, Guess I'll make up new ones." "What do you mean 'work for hire'? These are my OCs - do not steal!" "WTF, Dave? Why aren't you angry too?!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 11/18/19 2:50:40 PM #18:	Alan Moore has been an angry old fart for quite some time now. He's a legend, but he's also a pretentious fuck wit. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:930326631] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Alan Moore has been an angry old fart for quite some time now. He's a legend, but he's also a pretentious fuck wit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
codey 11/18/19 2:54:14 PM #19:	Lebronwon posted... He explained why he mad in this part of article. Im afraid that for a few years now, I have felt that since I am apparently not allowed to own the work that I created in the same manner that an author in a more grown-up and worthwhile field might expect to do, and since my protests at having my work stolen from me are interpreted by a surely young-at-heart and non-unionised audience as evidence of my grouchiness and cantankerousness, then the only active position that is left to me is to disown the works in question. Moore despises the comic industry, but has made few attempts to venture outside of it. --- *runs out of topic naked* <cite>codey posted [p:930326785] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Lebronwon posted...</cite> <quote>He explained why he mad in this part of article. Im afraid that for a few years now, I have felt that since I am apparently not allowed to own the work that I created in the same manner that an author in a more grown-up and worthwhile field might expect to do, and since my protests at having my work stolen from me are interpreted by a surely young-at-heart and non-unionised audience as evidence of my grouchiness and cantankerousness, then the only active position that is left to me is to disown the works in question.</quote> Moore despises the comic industry, but has made few attempts to venture outside of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 11/18/19 2:54:37 PM #20:	Alan Moore lost my respect when I heard about "Lost Girls". The guy is a creep. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:930326803] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Alan Moore lost my respect when I heard about "Lost Girls". The guy is a creep.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta X 11/18/19 2:56:19 PM #21:	Ivynn posted... Alan Moore hates everything. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>Veggeta X posted [p:930326867] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite> <quote>Alan Moore hates everything.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 11/18/19 2:59:03 PM #22:	Southernfatman posted... Alan Moore lost my respect when I heard about "Lost Girls". The guy is a creep. Drawing a naked man with big blue penis for as he claims young kids wasn't a top off? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:930326980] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted... </cite> <quote>Alan Moore lost my respect when I heard about "Lost Girls". The guy is a creep.</quote> Drawing a naked man with big blue penis for as he claims young kids wasn't a top off? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 11/18/19 3:00:31 PM #23:	Gobstoppers12 posted... Didn't he get super fucking salty when the Watchmen movie was made? It's personal when it comes to watchmen. DC has been fucking him over on that one for years. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:930327050] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite> <quote>Didn't he get super fucking salty when the Watchmen movie was made?</quote> It's personal when it comes to watchmen. DC has been fucking him over on that one for years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 11/18/19 3:01:19 PM #24:	darkphoenix181 posted... Drawing a naked man with big blue penis for as he claims young kids wasn't a top off? Capcom should draw a naked man with a penis divided into red and blue. --- Tell me how you feel upon learning that I write MLP fanfiction. <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:930327084] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>darkphoenix181 posted... </cite> <quote>Drawing a naked man with big blue penis for as he claims young kids wasn't a top off?</quote> Capcom should draw a naked man with a penis divided into red and blue. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 11/18/19 3:03:15 PM #25:	Guy is a complete toolbag --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign, Twenty million starving and writhing in pain. Vicious_Dios Original - https://i.imgtc.ws/Zl0aw6F.png <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:930327182] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Guy is a complete toolbag </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 11/18/19 3:09:29 PM #26:	Southernfatman posted... Alan Moore lost my respect when I heard about "Lost Girls". The guy is a creep. I really wish I hadn't typed that into Bing. I could have lived the rest of my life not knowing that such a thing exists. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:930327478] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote>Alan Moore lost my respect when I heard about "Lost Girls". The guy is a creep.</quote> I really wish I hadn't typed that into Bing. I could have lived the rest of my life not knowing that such a thing exists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
codey 11/18/19 3:24:06 PM #27:	Gobstoppers12 posted... Southernfatman posted... Alan Moore lost my respect when I heard about "Lost Girls". The guy is a creep. I really wish I hadn't typed that into Bing. I could have lived the rest of my life not knowing that such a thing exists. Yo why are you using Bing --- *runs out of topic naked* <cite>codey posted [p:930328133] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote>Alan Moore lost my respect when I heard about "Lost Girls". The guy is a creep.</quote> I really wish I hadn't typed that into Bing. I could have lived the rest of my life not knowing that such a thing exists.</quote> Yo why are you using Bing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 11/18/19 3:33:40 PM #28:	codey posted... Yo why are you using Bing Less censorship. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:930328605] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>codey posted...</cite> <quote>Yo why are you using Bing</quote> Less censorship.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KillerSlaw 11/18/19 3:33:56 PM #29:	Ivynn posted... Alan Moore hates everything. --- And Epstein didn't kill himself. <cite>KillerSlaw posted [p:930328614] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted...</cite> <quote>Alan Moore hates everything.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 11/18/19 3:48:50 PM #30:	he's a legend ,a great writer and he's right --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:930329304] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>he's a legend ,a great writer and he's right </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoubleDare 11/18/19 3:55:32 PM #31:	The Watchmen HBO show looks horrible and nothing at all like watchmen save visual stuff. I love Watchmen the movie, it was the best way to make the graphic novel a movie. I do agree with moore tho, there is too big of a manchild culture now. --- On Your Mark...Get Set........GO!!!!!! <cite>DoubleDare posted [p:930329623] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>The Watchmen HBO show looks horrible and nothing at all like watchmen save visual stuff. I love Watchmen the movie, it was the best way to make the graphic novel a movie. I do agree with moore tho, there is too big of a manchild culture now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jonny2284 11/18/19 3:56:10 PM #32:	The day ends with a y and Alan Moore hates something. Neither of things are special or unique. <cite>Jonny2284 posted [p:930329657] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>The day ends with a y and Alan Moore hates something. Neither of things are special or unique. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 11/18/19 3:58:09 PM #33:	This comes as no surprise. He's an artist, and the MCU is just for funsies. --- formerly evening formerly guide https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:930329767] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>This comes as no surprise. He's an artist, and the MCU is just for funsies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/18/19 4:01:28 PM #34:	Guide posted... This comes as no surprise. He's an artist, and the MCU is just for funsies. Marvel dabbling into "art" has never worked out well. Ang Lee's Hulk and Thor 2 are our prime examples here. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:930329953] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted...</cite> <quote>This comes as no surprise. He's an artist, and the MCU is just for funsies. </quote> Marvel dabbling into "art" has never worked out well. Ang Lee's Hulk and Thor 2 are our prime examples here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 11/18/19 7:35:06 PM #35:	Rekt --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:930340414] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Rekt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 11/18/19 7:37:59 PM #36:	Man famous for negative view on superhero movies has new and exciting negative opinion on superhero movies. More at 11! --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:930340544] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Man famous for negative view on superhero movies has new and exciting negative opinion on superhero movies. More at 11!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
malenz 11/18/19 7:38:18 PM #37:	Paper_Okami posted... he's a legend ,a great writer and he's right <cite>malenz posted [p:930340554] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>he's a legend ,a great writer and he's right </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 11/18/19 7:38:57 PM #38:	Questionmarktarius posted... Guide posted... This comes as no surprise. He's an artist, and the MCU is just for funsies. Marvel dabbling into "art" has never worked out well. Ang Lee's Hulk and Thor 2 are our prime examples here. How is Thor 2 and Hulk dabbling in art? --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:930340583] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Guide posted...</cite> <quote>This comes as no surprise. He's an artist, and the MCU is just for funsies. </quote> Marvel dabbling into "art" has never worked out well. Ang Lee's Hulk and Thor 2 are our prime examples here.</quote> How is Thor 2 and Hulk dabbling in art?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 11/18/19 7:40:12 PM #39:	Ang Lee Hulk is a better movie than 80% of the MCU --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:930340642] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Ang Lee Hulk is a better movie than 80% of the MCU</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 11/18/19 7:41:33 PM #40:	ledbowman posted... Ang Lee Hulk is a better movie than 80% of the MCU It was pretty bad is all I remember, really. That and Liv Tyler forgetting how to act for its duration. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:930340700] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>Ang Lee Hulk is a better movie than 80% of the MCU</quote> It was pretty bad is all I remember, really. That and Liv Tyler forgetting how to act for its duration.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Purely 11/18/19 7:42:10 PM #41:	Alan Moore has always hated superhero shit. That's why he made Watchmen. <cite>Purely posted [p:930340728] in The legend... [t:78173459]...</cite> <quote>Alan Moore has always hated superhero shit. That's why he made Watchmen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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