Current Events > Why America infrastructure so old?

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Train, railway and bridge

I thought America future country
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I am confusion! Why is this one Kan-sas but this one is not Ar-kan-sas? AMERICA EXPLAIN! EXPLAIN! WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S AR-KAN-SAW

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There is a mountain of red tape in the way of fixing the simplest thing in this country.
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It's amazing how far behind the internet infrastructure is compared to most countries. Other than inside a few big cities, you're all getting ripped off for those speeds LOL

gop
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Because using government to fix things is socialism or something. I don't know, give the military more money.
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I found a kinda interesting article about it.
https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2018/08/how-america-killed-transit/568825/
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Trains are cool

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GM killed transit in cities nationwide
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There are buildings in my country that are more than 500 years old. That's longer than America has been a country

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Most bridges in America are in dire need of repairs or replacement. Including several that are crossed by thousands of people daily.

There was some article not long ago where most of America's bridges received failing grades.

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fear and/or complacency. some hate change.

some places in America look untouched by any sort of progression.

some places are just broke and unsupported
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The wealthy who own the current systems fight hard to keep other forms from coming into prominence. "Don't pay for bullet trains they're bad, instead pay and we'll expand my system that's already in place" but then as time passed it gets worse and kicking the bucket down the road so many times got us here. Where it should be possible to get a quick cross state rail line, at least, but nope that's not a thing.

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lack of skilled labor tbh i think they all follow the money.

theres certain standards and the money is in the cities and its surroundings. so some places remain while others are in constant improvement.

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Butterfiles posted...

GM killed transit in cities nationwide

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it's too hard to build new stuff now because of construction unions raising the cost of labor
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America's bridges are ticking time bombs. But the cost to fix or replace them is astronomical and would require a major spending iniative by the federal government, which isn't going to happen any time soon.

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I'm in Paris right this moment and the systems here are garbage. It's not just America
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I mean... We can probably sacrifice making a few less missiles or something to put into a repair budget. Those things are expensive as all get out.
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Philosopher_X posted...

I mean... We can probably sacrifice making a few less missiles or something to put into a repair budget. Those things are expensive as all get out.

Look at the cost of the f22 raptor planes. Yeah.

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Do America people not want modern infrastructure?
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Tax cuts

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pres_madagascar posted...

Philosopher_X posted...

I mean... We can probably sacrifice making a few less missiles or something to put into a repair budget. Those things are expensive as all get out.

Look at the cost of the f22 raptor planes. Yeah.

The F-22 is expensive. The U.S. Air Force had to stop production early on the F-22 because of soaring project costs. The cost of one aircraft alone is an estimated $334 million which includes research and development (unit cost of $150 million)

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Cause we're stuck in-between the Transcontinental railroad and Elon running a train
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Unless you live in a city, a better transportation system would replace planes, not cars TBH.
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pres_madagascar posted...

America's bridges are ticking time bombs. But the cost to fix or replace them is astronomical and would require a major spending iniative by the federal government, which isn't going to happen any time soon.

Might as well just wait till a few hundred people die in a collapse.

More money to funnel to their friends and base pandering nonsense like easily circumvented border walls and cash reparations.
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We're a third world country. Basically working for tips.

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Not saying all of america is like north western washington but holy fuck crossing the border from Osoyoos into the states you go from a beautiful thriving tourist town into such an ugly wasteland... the contrast is nuts.

And you gotta drive for hours before you get anywhere even halfway nice.

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I mean look at Singapore or Malaysia they have better train, railway, subway and bridge.

I'm just asking no need to be angry.
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CanuckCowboy posted...

Not saying all of america is like north western washington but holy fuck crossing the border from Osoyoos into the states you go from a beautiful thriving tourist town into such an ugly wasteland... the contrast is nuts.

And you gotta drive for hours before you get anywhere even halfway nice.

Nature is not ugly.

But I'm surprised there aren't more cities on America's northern border.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

Nature is not ugly.

But I'm surprised there aren't more cities on America's northern border.

I love nature

nature here is gorgeous. You cross the border and its more like fallout in appearance than the forests and lakes and mountains we have here.

Once you get down around wenatchee its gorgeous but oroville and the like are just hideous all around.

Hell osoyoos lake somehow gets way less scenic and nice the moment you cross the line. Its honestly weird.

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Infrastructure maintenance isn't profitable enough in capitalism

Politicians dont get elected on maintaining infrastructure so they ignore it.
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https://youtu.be/nAXJxrt0nXs
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pres_madagascar posted...

America's bridges are ticking time bombs. But the cost to fix or replace them is astronomical and would require a major spending iniative by the federal government, which isn't going to happen any time soon.

A billionaire could fix all of them and still be a billionaire

Oh wait I mean hurpadurr wealth tax bad worship money

ArchiePeck posted...

It's amazing how far behind the internet infrastructure is compared to most countries. Other than inside a few big cities, you're all getting ripped off for those speeds LOL

For being the 3rd largest country in the world, the US isn't doing too bad. Every other country that outranks them is leaps and bounds smaller both in size and population.

Because everything is so old and no one wants to pay for it to be fixed until there is a disaster that forces their hand like flint Michigan or a random bridge collapse. No politician wants to raise taxes to fix bridges people hate paying more in taxes it is much easier to pass some feel good legislation that gives everyone those warm fuzzy feels than it is to pass a bill to fix our aging infrastructure.
No one wants to put up the money to fix this stuff that is the problem.

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Fossil posted...

For being the 3rd largest country in the world, the US isn't doing too bad. Every other country that outranks them is leaps and bounds smaller both in size and population.

the us has a pretty optimal size to population ratio for maintaining infrastructure based on my random second of thought on it.

Lot easier to ignore huge amounts of the country in a place like canada where theres so many barely inhabited areas up north. Or to fail to keep up in places with insane population density.

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Rexdragon125 posted...

A billionaire could fix all of them and still be a billionaire

Oh wait I mean hurpadurr wealth tax bad worship money

Dude bridges cost a lot more than you think. I kinda like where youre coming from but no.

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bevan306 posted...

gop

This.


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a single billionaire could pay for the trillions of dollars it would cost to update our infrastructure, but instead they choose to hoard their wealth
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CanuckCowboy posted...

Dude bridges cost a lot more than you think. I kinda like where youre coming from but no.

Our infrastructure was the best in the world until we gave wealthy people a 70% tax cut.

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vigorm0rtis posted...

Our infrastructure was the best in the world until we gave wealthy people a 70% tax cut.

A really big bridge can cost like 1-2 billion. I wasnt commenting on tax breaks for the rich... just the idea that one dude could replace or repair every bridge in the country without losing a ton of his fortune.

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awesome999 posted...

There are buildings in my country that are more than 500 years old. That's longer than America has been a country

Yes but those buildings were not built with modern construction materials and design practices.

Reinforced concrete, in general, is not a material that can last hundreds of years without regular maintenance due to chemical reactions which degrade it over time.
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In my city at least theres construction going on all the damn time. And the highways are constantly getting revamped.
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