Current Events > Finished watching Black Panther. One of the stronger MCU movies, IMO.

(+) Yeah! (+)

Good characters, not too overboard with the humor, great and fleshed out villain with believable motives, and a good message.
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It was solid. I liked it

It's just too bad it follows the MCU gimmick of disposable villains.

I'm not really sure I even needed to spoiler that.

i liked tchalla, martin freeman, and the guy from Us

i loved the fight choreography

i really hated how the movie made black panther seem like a bitch without his powers
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I know a lot of people made fun of it being on the Oscar nomination, but I honestly think it did a great job tying race relations to the story. With that said, Killmonger was probably the strongest part about the movie, it still has some of those annoying MCU elements like the forced humor (LOOK AT THOSE!) and being very formulaic and predictable. But for what it's worth, it's still a solid flick.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

It's just too bad it follows the MCU gimmick of disposable villains.

I'm not really sure I even needed to spoiler that.

I'm used to that with most superhero movies anyway.
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It was okay. Liked it better than homecoming, but not as much as a lot of the others. Rag was prolly my fav, followed by infinity war. I forgot the most of what happened in the others.

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I agree (top three MCU movie, IMO).

now we need a movie with M'Baku as the lead.

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I found it disappointing tbh.

The action scenes left a lot to be desired, the story kept pretending it was going to do cool stuff and then doing cliched stuff instead, and that white guy was just awful lol.
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It was fine. I rate it middle of the road for the franchise.
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Honestly, I found it to be forgettable. It wasn't a great way to introduce the character like how Iron Man 1 was.

I also thought the CGI was laughable for a movie made in 2018. Especially that main boss battle.

I think it had one of the best musical scores of the MCU.
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My biggest problem is that TChalla didnt even feel like the main character of his own movie, it focused on almost everyone else just as often
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killmonger did nothing wrong
except taking the throne should have abolished the monarchy

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Paper_Okami posted...

killmonger did nothing wrong

I'm not entirely convinced Klaue did anything wrong.

Banjo2553 posted...

great and fleshed out villain with believable motives

You guys gotta stop this. Killmonger was 100% wrong.

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XXmiznatorXX posted...

It wasn't a great way to introduce the character like how Iron Man 1 was

This wasn't Black Panther's introduction, though.

Paper_Okami posted...

killmonger did nothing wrong
except taking the throne should have abolished the monarchy

Didn't he want to genocide all the white people or something
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The action scenes are atrocious and the whole thing is CIA propaganda

Veggeta X posted...

Banjo2553 posted...

great and fleshed out villain with believable motives

You guys gotta stop this. Killmonger was 100% wrong.

And leaving out the part where I said he's misguided.

Believable motives doesn't mean, becoming a supervillain just because your number one hero ignored you. Believable motives means, your race has historically been oppressed and wants to right the wrongs. The misguided part is him trying to do it by force and killing anyone who opposes.
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kewldude475 posted...

This. Very good, solid movie, was fun to watch. Though, even as a black person, people saying it's the best MCU movie (Read: Better than Infinity War and Endgame) are absolutely tripping though.

idk, I thought that Infinity War was one of the most overrated movies in the franchise.

I thought that Endgame was a lot better than IW, tbh...Black Panther was better, too.

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Banjo2553 posted...

And leaving out the part where I said he's misguided.

Believable motives doesn't mean, becoming a supervillain just because your number one hero ignored you. Believable motives means, your race has historically been oppressed and wants to right the wrongs. The misguided part is him trying to do it by force and killing anyone who opposes.

Fair enough but let's not try and say he's in the right please.

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Prestoff posted...

it still has some of those annoying MCU elements like the forced humor (LOOK AT THOSE!)

Yeah, that was a pretty cringe moment considering how late into it's life cycle that meme was. A lot of the MCU jokes don't seem like they're going to age well imo.
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Veggeta X posted...

Fair enough but let's not try and say he's in the right please.

Of course.
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kewldude475 posted...

I have to disagree, Infinity War is one of the greatest pieces of cinema of all time

lol

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nobody who has ever seen any truly great movies would have that opinion. you took a lot from that lol
seems i made you mad

it's nothing compared to things like Taxi Driver, Apocalypse Now

stuff like North by Northwest, Raiders of the Lost Ark
Ran
The Thin Red Line
Fanny and Alexander
The Wild Strawberries
Children of Men
Singin in the Rain
12 angry men
Spirited Away
Solaris (1972)
Dog Day Afternoon
Tokyo Story
Once Upon a time in America
Pinocchio
Blade Runner
Das Boot
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Parasite
Sansho the Bailiff
Ugetsu
godfather movies
Citizen Kane
Seven Samurai
sunset Blvd
The Grapes of Wrath
L'avventura
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
Farewell my Concubine
Yi Yi
Lawrence of Arabia
Spartacus
Barry Lyndon
2001: A Space Odyssey
Vertigo
The Shining
Man with a Movie Camera
Full Metal Jacket
Princess Monoke
The Empire Strikes Back
The 400 Blows
Psycho
Rear Window
on the waterfront

or plenty of stuff like personal favorites such as
Bigger than Life
Safe (1995)
High and Low
Videodrome
A History of Violence
Woman in the Dunes
Red Angel
Castle in the Sky
Fantastic Mr. Fox
Blind Beast
In a Year of 13 Moons
Miller's Crossing
The Best Year's of Our Lives
All About Eve
Blow Out
Throne of Blood
Bringing up Baby
The Celebration
A Taste of Cherry
Dawn of the Dead (1978)
Dead Ringers
The Tree of Life
Oldboy
Akira
Harakiri (1962)
Ikiru
Kagemusha
Late Autumn
M
The Manchurian Candidate (1962)
Rushmore
Point Blank
Pistol Opera
Stray Dog
The Wages of Fear
Intentions of Murder

@kewldude475

i'm sure a guy who knows his cinema is aware of most of these movies, right?

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Nah
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LookANinja posted...

I think it had one of the best musical scores of the MCU.

This indeed, i fell in love with that theme that plays when Panther was in action. I cant put my finger on the name of it

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The part near the end of the movie, where Black Panther and Killmonger were fighting near the train that disrupted their suits, it was shot from the waist up because their dongs kept being exposed.
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it was dogshit
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lmao the dude who says Infinity War is one of the greatest movies of all time pretends to know something about cinematography

I mean Malick's films and stuff like Children of Men, Lawrence of Arabia, Apocaylpse Now, 2001, Barry Lyndon, Citizen Kane,Fanny and Alexander, The Godfather, Blade Runner etc are renowned for their cinematography but go off

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you didn't say one of the greatest summer superhero blockbuster film of all time you said one of the greatest films of all time and lmfao at the notion that we can't compare films of different genres

sounds like you aren't all that confident in your opinion
you really started having a melty

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lol i'm guessing you're lashing out because you haven't seen (or heard of) much of what i've listed

and i'm now the elitist because you refuse to see movies beyond blockbusters or probably stuff like fight club, a clockwork orange, Donnie Darko, and the like

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the topic title literally says MCU.

there's no reason to consider non-MCU movies when somebody says something is the greatest. it's already implied.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

the topic title literally says MCU.

there's no reason to consider non-MCU movies when somebody says something is the greatest. it's already implied.

he literally said "infinity war is one of the greatest pieces of cinema ever"
there is no fucking way to read that as just "it's one of the greatest marvel movies"

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so what? the parameters were already framed by the topic title.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

so what? the parameters were already framed by the topic title.

are you kidding me?

He exceeded those parameters through his statement
not to mention the topic title merely says "Bp is one of marvels best movies"

which is hardly establishing parameters

and either way he went outside of the "parameters"

You are just jumping in to argue for the sake of it


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nah. he even clarified, so that excuse is null and void.

you might as well let it go now that you understand. don't want to look unhinged.
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he challenged me to offer my opinion

and I did

he back pedaled because he's a coward

and claimed that he was just talking about marvel movies (which was not in his post)
you are wrong

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whatever

*interest lost*
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i mean you were just arguing dumb bullshit in the first place
so fine with me

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kewldude475 posted...

Again, you know NOTHING of film.

no, that's you
With every post you make i'm further convinced that you have seen little in the way of film
Like how can you form opinions of films regarded as great if you haven't seen them?
How can you claim Infinity War is worthy of being among the greats if you haven't seen those films?

kewldude475 posted...

IW is a top 5 grossing movie of all time people voted with their dollar.

i guess the Transformers and Twilight movies are masterpieces by that logic

kewldude475 posted...

You compared CITIZEN KANE to INFINITY WAR.

YOU called Infinity War one of the greatest films ever
I laughed and gave alternatives

I wasn't comparing them side to side
don't really see how difficult it is to understand
Not that it's difficult to compare two extremely different things which is done in criticism all the time

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You offered no fucking reason for why it's a great film other than ticket sales

It's a generic, cheesy blockbuster and it doesn't have anything to say

there have been many of them

most aren't one of 20 plus movies

Like there are great blockbusters out there
Raiders of the Lost Ark is one of the greatest films of all time and it's popcorn entertainment

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Its pretty good. Standard MCU movie.
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