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MarqueeSeries 11/02/19 10:21:19 AM #151:	IloveJesus posted... PIITB415 posted... Wow! You're so smart and wise. Did you cut yourself on the fedora edge? Thing is though, he isn't being edgy. He's backing the majority from all the polls that actually choosing pets isn't the wrong choice. Yeah, all of TCs posts reek of "w-well, I'm not wrong, t-they're the ones that are wrong! And they're sociopaths too!" There's actually a lot of armchair psychologists that come out in these topics to flex their C that they got in Psych 100 at community college --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>MarqueeSeries posted [p:929560337] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote>PIITB415 posted... </cite> <quote> Wow! You're so smart and wise. Did you cut yourself on the fedora edge?</quote> Thing is though, he isn't being edgy. He's backing the majority from all the polls that actually choosing pets isn't the wrong choice. </quote> Yeah, all of TCs posts reek of "w-well, I'm not wrong, t-they're the ones that are wrong! And they're sociopaths too!" There's actually a lot of armchair psychologists that come out in these topics to flex their C that they got in Psych 100 at community college</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trappedunderice 11/02/19 10:24:32 AM #152:	MarqueeSeries posted... IloveJesus posted... PIITB415 posted... Wow! You're so smart and wise. Did you cut yourself on the fedora edge? Thing is though, he isn't being edgy. He's backing the majority from all the polls that actually choosing pets isn't the wrong choice. Yeah, all of TCs posts reek of "w-well, I'm not wrong, t-they're the ones that are wrong! And they're sociopaths too!" There's actually a lot of armchair psychologists that come out in these topics to flex their C that they got in Psych 100 at community college You don't need a degree in psychology to understand the basics of moral values, you sound daft. --- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ4GbcuBvUQ <cite>trappedunderice posted [p:929560417] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>MarqueeSeries posted...</cite> <quote>IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote>PIITB415 posted... </cite> <quote> Wow! You're so smart and wise. Did you cut yourself on the fedora edge?</quote> Thing is though, he isn't being edgy. He's backing the majority from all the polls that actually choosing pets isn't the wrong choice. </quote> Yeah, all of TCs posts reek of "w-well, I'm not wrong, t-they're the ones that are wrong! And they're sociopaths too!" There's actually a lot of armchair psychologists that come out in these topics to flex their C that they got in Psych 100 at community college</quote> You don't need a degree in psychology to understand the basics of moral values, you sound daft.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PIITB415 11/02/19 10:25:36 AM #153:	IloveJesus posted... PIITB415 posted... Wow! You're so smart and wise. Did you cut yourself on the fedora edge? Thing is though, he isn't being edgy. He's backing the majority from all the polls that actually choosing pets isn't the wrong choice. This forum is made of mostly minors who are still virgins according to previous polls. Most users here haven't even had enough human interaction or matured enough to have real life burdens. That's the reality. A user that hasn't even had a real job and states "hurr Durr my cat licks my toes!" Most likely hasn't experienced real life death. It's not like the movies or video games. If any user on here had a parent that passed away I bet they would let their living pet die to have one hour with someone they loved that died. --- https://imgur.com/VawbBVM https://imgur.com/6Si4h <cite>PIITB415 posted [p:929560449] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote>PIITB415 posted... </cite> <quote>Wow! You're so smart and wise. Did you cut yourself on the fedora edge?</quote> Thing is though, he isn't being edgy. He's backing the majority from all the polls that actually choosing pets isn't the wrong choice. </quote> This forum is made of mostly minors who are still virgins according to previous polls. Most users here haven't even had enough human interaction or matured enough to have real life burdens. That's the reality. A user that hasn't even had a real job and states "hurr Durr my cat licks my toes!" Most likely hasn't experienced real life death. It's not like the movies or video games. If any user on here had a parent that passed away I bet they would let their living pet die to have one hour with someone they loved that died.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 11/02/19 10:27:58 AM #154:	PIITB415 posted... IloveJesus posted... PIITB415 posted... Wow! You're so smart and wise. Did you cut yourself on the fedora edge? Thing is though, he isn't being edgy. He's backing the majority from all the polls that actually choosing pets isn't the wrong choice. This forum is made of mostly minors who are still virgins according to previous polls. Most users here haven't even had enough human interaction or matured enough to have real life burdens. That's the reality. A user that hasn't even had a real job and states "hurr Durr my cat licks my toes!" Most likely hasn't experienced real life death. It's not like the movies or video games. If any user on here had a parent that passed away I bet they would let their living pet die to have one hour with someone they loved that died. facts --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN https://imgur.com/hVC4i6j <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:929560512] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>PIITB415 posted...</cite> <quote>IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote>PIITB415 posted... </cite> <quote>Wow! You're so smart and wise. Did you cut yourself on the fedora edge?</quote> Thing is though, he isn't being edgy. He's backing the majority from all the polls that actually choosing pets isn't the wrong choice. </quote> This forum is made of mostly minors who are still virgins according to previous polls. Most users here haven't even had enough human interaction or matured enough to have real life burdens. That's the reality. A user that hasn't even had a real job and states "hurr Durr my cat licks my toes!" Most likely hasn't experienced real life death. It's not like the movies or video games. If any user on here had a parent that passed away I bet they would let their living pet die to have one hour with someone they loved that died.</quote> facts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarqueeSeries 11/02/19 10:28:39 AM #155:	trappedunderice posted... MarqueeSeries posted... IloveJesus posted... PIITB415 posted... Wow! You're so smart and wise. Did you cut yourself on the fedora edge? Thing is though, he isn't being edgy. He's backing the majority from all the polls that actually choosing pets isn't the wrong choice. Yeah, all of TCs posts reek of "w-well, I'm not wrong, t-they're the ones that are wrong! And they're sociopaths too!" There's actually a lot of armchair psychologists that come out in these topics to flex their C that they got in Psych 100 at community college You don't need a degree in psychology to understand the basics of moral values, you sound daft. Well, this one might have gotten a D. Perhaps I was too generous --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>MarqueeSeries posted [p:929560523] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>trappedunderice posted...</cite> <quote>MarqueeSeries posted...</cite> <quote> IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote> PIITB415 posted... </cite> <quote> Wow! You're so smart and wise. Did you cut yourself on the fedora edge? </quote> Thing is though, he isn't being edgy. He's backing the majority from all the polls that actually choosing pets isn't the wrong choice. </quote> Yeah, all of TCs posts reek of "w-well, I'm not wrong, t-they're the ones that are wrong! And they're sociopaths too!" There's actually a lot of armchair psychologists that come out in these topics to flex their C that they got in Psych 100 at community college</quote> You don't need a degree in psychology to understand the basics of moral values, you sound daft.</quote> Well, this one might have gotten a D. Perhaps I was too generous</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anony1125 11/02/19 10:29:08 AM #156:	PIITB415 posted... This forum is made of mostly minors ... according to previous polls. Polls from 2006? --- Feeling really good. <cite>Anony1125 posted [p:929560539] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>PIITB415 posted...</cite> <quote>This forum is made of mostly minors ... according to previous polls.</quote> Polls from 2006?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 11/02/19 10:33:11 AM #157:	PIITB415 posted... This forum is made of mostly minors who are still virgins according to previous polls. Most users here haven't even had enough human interaction or matured enough to have real life burdens. That's the reality. A user that hasn't even had a real job and states "hurr Durr my cat licks my toes!" Most likely hasn't experienced real life death. It's not like the movies or video games. If any user on here had a parent that passed away I bet they would let their living pet die to have one hour with someone they loved that died. And for people who had shitty parents? Things aren't as simple or black and white as you want to make them out as. People and love their pets. People can love people. People can hate pets and people can hate people. Why must we place all people above all pets? Why are animals that many would consider part of the family automatically relegated as some lesser being? Just dismissing it as "basic morals" is a cop out and not an answer. Why do you think people are automatically of more importance than a pet or another animal? --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:929560657] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>PIITB415 posted...</cite> <quote>This forum is made of mostly minors who are still virgins according to previous polls. Most users here haven't even had enough human interaction or matured enough to have real life burdens. That's the reality. A user that hasn't even had a real job and states "hurr Durr my cat licks my toes!" Most likely hasn't experienced real life death. It's not like the movies or video games. If any user on here had a parent that passed away I bet they would let their living pet die to have one hour with someone they loved that died.</quote> And for people who had shitty parents? Things aren't as simple or black and white as you want to make them out as. People and love their pets. People can love people. People can hate pets and people can hate people. Why must we place all people above all pets? Why are animals that many would consider part of the family automatically relegated as some lesser being? Just dismissing it as "basic morals" is a cop out and not an answer. Why do you think people are automatically of more importance than a pet or another animal?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trappedunderice 11/02/19 10:51:33 AM #158:	What are you talking about a human's life is always worth more than an animal's life in a saving situation no matter what, it's absurd to think otherwise. --- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ4GbcuBvUQ <cite>trappedunderice posted [p:929561132] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>What are you talking about a human's life is always worth more than an animal's life in a saving situation no matter what, it's absurd to think otherwise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 11/02/19 11:34:39 AM #159:	trappedunderice posted... What are you talking about a human's life is always worth more than an animal's life in a saving situation no matter what, it's absurd to think otherwise. What you mean is that you don't agree to think otherwise. When a clearly large group feels differently to you about an issue, you don't get to write it off as absurd. You also don't get to tell people what they should value. That's their choice. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:929562475] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>trappedunderice posted... </cite> <quote>What are you talking about a human's life is always worth more than an animal's life in a saving situation no matter what, it's absurd to think otherwise.</quote> What you mean is that you don't agree to think otherwise. When a clearly large group feels differently to you about an issue, you don't get to write it off as absurd. You also don't get to tell people what they should value. That's their choice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 11/02/19 11:36:25 AM #160:	IloveJesus posted... trappedunderice posted... What are you talking about a human's life is always worth more than an animal's life in a saving situation no matter what, it's absurd to think otherwise. What you mean is that you don't agree to think otherwise. When a clearly large group feels differently to you about an issue, you don't get to write it off as absurd. You also don't get to tell people what they should value. That's their choice. It's my choice to call them pieces of shit --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:929562534] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote>trappedunderice posted... </cite> <quote>What are you talking about a human's life is always worth more than an animal's life in a saving situation no matter what, it's absurd to think otherwise.</quote> What you mean is that you don't agree to think otherwise. When a clearly large group feels differently to you about an issue, you don't get to write it off as absurd. You also don't get to tell people what they should value. That's their choice. </quote> It's my choice to call them pieces of shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/02/19 11:38:59 AM #161:	So, I havent read everything yet, but I do want to know something. What makes humans so special? I mean, were an animal like the rest, right? Not only that, but maybe one of the worst, since we destroy nature for ourselves... As for who to save, thats very situational. The question is usually your own pet vs a random child. But is the random child in your house? Are you responsible for them (babysitting)? Or do you actually know the child? Or do you happen to hear the child crying or calling for help? Are the parents or family alive? Is it safe to reach them? And how do you know you wont be able to go back and save them? In the scenario, the building collapses after you leave. But most people wouldnt know for sure IRL... As for pet parents, there are plenty who love their pet like a child. Especially if youve had them from basically when they were born. And raised them. And there are many people who dont want, nor can have, children... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929562617] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>So, I havent read everything yet, but I do want to know something. What makes humans so special? I mean, were an animal like the rest, right? Not only that, but maybe one of the worst, since we destroy nature for ourselves... As for who to save, thats very situational. The question is usually your own pet vs a random child. But is the random child in your house? Are you responsible for them (babysitting)? Or do you actually know the child? Or do you happen to hear the child crying or calling for help? Are the parents or family alive? Is it safe to reach them? And how do you know you wont be able to go back and save them? In the scenario, the building collapses after you leave. But most people wouldnt know for sure IRL... As for pet parents, there are plenty who love their pet like a child. Especially if youve had them from basically when they were born. And raised them. And there are many people who dont want, nor can have, children...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 11/02/19 11:41:06 AM #162:	LinkPizza posted... So, I havent read everything yet, but I do want to know something. What makes humans so special? I mean, were an animal like the rest, right? Not only that, but maybe one of the worst, since we destroy nature for ourselves... As for who to save, thats very situational. The question is usually your own pet vs a random child. But is the random child in your house? Are you responsible for them (babysitting)? Or do you actually know the child? Or do you happen to hear the child crying or calling for help? Are the parents or family alive? Is it safe to reach them? And how do you know you wont be able to go back and save them? In the scenario, the building collapses after you leave. But most people wouldnt know for sure IRL... As for pet parents, there are plenty who love their pet like a child. Especially if youve had them from basically when they were born. And raised them. And there are many people who dont want, nor can have, children... ledbowman posted... It doesn't matter if you don't know the person. The value of a stranger's life vastly outweighs your dog. A dog does not have near the same capacity for emotion, perception, love, ect. --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:929562696] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>So, I havent read everything yet, but I do want to know something. What makes humans so special? I mean, were an animal like the rest, right? Not only that, but maybe one of the worst, since we destroy nature for ourselves... As for who to save, thats very situational. The question is usually your own pet vs a random child. But is the random child in your house? Are you responsible for them (babysitting)? Or do you actually know the child? Or do you happen to hear the child crying or calling for help? Are the parents or family alive? Is it safe to reach them? And how do you know you wont be able to go back and save them? In the scenario, the building collapses after you leave. But most people wouldnt know for sure IRL... As for pet parents, there are plenty who love their pet like a child. Especially if youve had them from basically when they were born. And raised them. And there are many people who dont want, nor can have, children...</quote> ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>It doesn't matter if you don't know the person. The value of a stranger's life vastly outweighs your dog. A dog does not have near the same capacity for emotion, perception, love, ect.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 11/02/19 11:43:43 AM #163:	ledbowman posted... The value of a stranger's life vastly outweighs your dog. To you. Stop trying to tell people that they have to have the same values as you. I'd certainly save my pets before saving you. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:929562772] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>The value of a stranger's life vastly outweighs your dog.</quote> To you. Stop trying to tell people that they have to have the same values as you. I'd certainly save my pets before saving you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 11/02/19 11:45:44 AM #164:	IloveJesus posted... ledbowman posted... The value of a stranger's life vastly outweighs your dog. To you. Stop trying to tell people that they have to have the same values as you. I'd certainly save my pets before saving you. It's not subjective --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:929562852] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>The value of a stranger's life vastly outweighs your dog.</quote> To you. Stop trying to tell people that they have to have the same values as you. I'd certainly save my pets before saving you. </quote> It's not subjective</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 11/02/19 11:47:26 AM #165:	ledbowman posted... It's not subjective Yeah, it is. The value of literally anything is subjective. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:929562909] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>It's not subjective</quote> Yeah, it is. The value of literally anything is subjective. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/02/19 11:49:53 AM #166:	ledbowman posted... LinkPizza posted... So, I havent read everything yet, but I do want to know something. What makes humans so special? I mean, were an animal like the rest, right? Not only that, but maybe one of the worst, since we destroy nature for ourselves... As for who to save, thats very situational. The question is usually your own pet vs a random child. But is the random child in your house? Are you responsible for them (babysitting)? Or do you actually know the child? Or do you happen to hear the child crying or calling for help? Are the parents or family alive? Is it safe to reach them? And how do you know you wont be able to go back and save them? In the scenario, the building collapses after you leave. But most people wouldnt know for sure IRL... As for pet parents, there are plenty who love their pet like a child. Especially if youve had them from basically when they were born. And raised them. And there are many people who dont want, nor can have, children... ledbowman posted... It doesn't matter if you don't know the person. The value of a stranger's life vastly outweighs your dog. A dog does not have near the same capacity for emotion, perception, love, ect. But why? Is there a reason? Or are you just saying this. Which doesnt even answer the question I posted. Unless you didnt read it... IloveJesus posted... ledbowman posted... It's not subjective Yeah, it is. The value of literally anything is subjective. And this... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929562984] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>So, I havent read everything yet, but I do want to know something. What makes humans so special? I mean, were an animal like the rest, right? Not only that, but maybe one of the worst, since we destroy nature for ourselves... As for who to save, thats very situational. The question is usually your own pet vs a random child. But is the random child in your house? Are you responsible for them (babysitting)? Or do you actually know the child? Or do you happen to hear the child crying or calling for help? Are the parents or family alive? Is it safe to reach them? And how do you know you wont be able to go back and save them? In the scenario, the building collapses after you leave. But most people wouldnt know for sure IRL... As for pet parents, there are plenty who love their pet like a child. Especially if youve had them from basically when they were born. And raised them. And there are many people who dont want, nor can have, children...</quote> ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>It doesn't matter if you don't know the person. The value of a stranger's life vastly outweighs your dog. A dog does not have near the same capacity for emotion, perception, love, ect.</quote></quote> But why? Is there a reason? Or are you just saying this. Which doesnt even answer the question I posted. Unless you didnt read it... IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>It's not subjective</quote> Yeah, it is. The value of literally anything is subjective.</quote> And this...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 11/02/19 11:50:00 AM #167:	trappedunderice posted... What are you talking about a human's life is always worth more than an animal's life in a saving situation no matter what, it's absurd to think otherwise. Why? You can't just say "because" without giving an actual reason to it AND say it always applies. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:929562989] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>trappedunderice posted...</cite> <quote>What are you talking about a human's life is always worth more than an animal's life in a saving situation no matter what, it's absurd to think otherwise.</quote> Why? You can't just say "because" without giving an actual reason to it AND say it always applies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarqueeSeries 11/02/19 11:50:42 AM #168:	ledbowman posted... IloveJesus posted... ledbowman posted... The value of a stranger's life vastly outweighs your dog. To you. Stop trying to tell people that they have to have the same values as you. I'd certainly save my pets before saving you. It's not subjective You should probably learn a little bit about the subjectivity of morality and values before making an assertion like this Unless you think you've found something that centuries of philosophers haven't? In that case, I'd love to see where you published such a finding --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>MarqueeSeries posted [p:929563014] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote> ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote> The value of a stranger's life vastly outweighs your dog. </quote> To you. Stop trying to tell people that they have to have the same values as you. I'd certainly save my pets before saving you. </quote> It's not subjective</quote> You should probably learn a little bit about the subjectivity of morality and values before making an assertion like this Unless you think you've found something that centuries of philosophers haven't? In that case, I'd love to see where you published such a finding</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 11/02/19 11:56:52 AM #169:	Dogs being lesser life forms is not an opinion. One day you'll grow out of your detatchment and moral relativity phase --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:929563252] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>Dogs being lesser life forms is not an opinion. One day you'll grow out of your detatchment and moral relativity phase</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/02/19 11:59:04 AM #170:	ledbowman posted... Dogs being lesser life forms is not an opinion. One day you'll grow out of your detatchment and moral relativity phase But why are they lesser life forms? What makes humans so much better? Were animals, too. Just a different type... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929563348] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>Dogs being lesser life forms is not an opinion. One day you'll grow out of your detatchment and moral relativity phase</quote> But why are they lesser life forms? What makes humans so much better? Were animals, too. Just a different type...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 11/02/19 11:59:41 AM #171:	ledbowman posted... Dogs being lesser life forms is not an opinion. One day you'll grow out of your detatchment and moral relativity phase You can't make subjective statements without providing any reasonings to why you have come to your conclusion. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:929563372] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>Dogs being lesser life forms is not an opinion. One day you'll grow out of your detatchment and moral relativity phase</quote> You can't make subjective statements without providing any reasonings to why you have come to your conclusion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoBowser 11/02/19 12:00:04 PM #172:	i hate both equally --- I'm feeling myself, I'm feeling myself, I'm feeling my feeling my' <cite>NeoBowser posted [p:929563388] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>i hate both equally </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 11/02/19 12:00:45 PM #173:	LinkPizza posted... ledbowman posted... Dogs being lesser life forms is not an opinion. One day you'll grow out of your detatchment and moral relativity phase But why are they lesser life forms? What makes humans so much better? Were animals, too. Just a different type... ledbowman posted... A dog does not have near the same capacity for emotion, perception, love, ect. --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:929563407] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>Dogs being lesser life forms is not an opinion. One day you'll grow out of your detatchment and moral relativity phase</quote> But why are they lesser life forms? What makes humans so much better? Were animals, too. Just a different type...</quote> ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>A dog does not have near the same capacity for emotion, perception, love, ect.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YokoGeri 11/02/19 12:00:56 PM #174:	ThyCorndog posted... most people are not terrorists or serial killers When did I said they were? I am merely making a point: it's not a black and white issue. It makes more sense to save some people, and it makes more sense to save some pets. A terrorist or a random chihuahua? A rapist or a random circus dog? etc Those are extreme cases, but then you can go into more nuances cases once you've understood the principle. One of those dogs that make it to the news in stories like "dog fights off cougar and suffers injuries defending his owner's kid" or a random asshole who shoplifts, cheats on his wife and beats up people for fun? (now, there are MILLIONS of people like that). Now imagine you're asking this question to the owner of the dog that saved his kid from the cougar? There are many, many factors that go into deciding, it's not as simple as "HURR DURR HOOMANZ BE SPESHUL! HOOMAN EVERTIEM!" <cite>YokoGeri posted [p:929563413] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>most people are not terrorists or serial killers</quote> When did I said they were? I am merely making a point: it's not a black and white issue. It makes more sense to save some people, and it makes more sense to save some pets. A terrorist or a random chihuahua? A rapist or a random circus dog? etc Those are extreme cases, but then you can go into more nuances cases once you've understood the principle. One of those dogs that make it to the news in stories like "dog fights off cougar and suffers injuries defending his owner's kid" or a random asshole who shoplifts, cheats on his wife and beats up people for fun? (now, there are MILLIONS of people like that). Now imagine you're asking this question to the owner of the dog that saved his kid from the cougar? There are many, many factors that go into deciding, it's not as simple as "HURR DURR HOOMANZ BE SPESHUL! HOOMAN EVERTIEM!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YokoGeri 11/02/19 12:02:05 PM #175:	trappedunderice posted... What are you talking about a human's life is always worth more than an animal's life in a saving situation no matter what, it's absurd to think otherwise. Again: Save a terrorist or one of those earthquake rescue dogs? "no matter what" is absurd <cite>YokoGeri posted [p:929563449] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>trappedunderice posted...</cite> <quote>What are you talking about a human's life is always worth more than an animal's life in a saving situation no matter what, it's absurd to think otherwise.</quote> Again: Save a terrorist or one of those earthquake rescue dogs? "no matter what" is absurd</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 11/02/19 12:03:00 PM #176:	YokoGeri posted... trappedunderice posted... What are you talking about a human's life is always worth more than an animal's life in a saving situation no matter what, it's absurd to think otherwise. Again: Save a terrorist or one of those earthquake rescue dogs? "no matter what" is absurd Yes, if you are extremely pedantic --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:929563482] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>YokoGeri posted...</cite> <quote>trappedunderice posted...</cite> <quote>What are you talking about a human's life is always worth more than an animal's life in a saving situation no matter what, it's absurd to think otherwise.</quote> Again: Save a terrorist or one of those earthquake rescue dogs? "no matter what" is absurd</quote> Yes, if you are extremely pedantic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 11/02/19 12:03:50 PM #177:	ledbowman posted... Dogs being lesser life forms is not an opinion. Dogs that I know and care about having less value than a stranger is an opinion. ledbowman posted... One day you'll grow out of your detatchment and moral relativity phase Given that I studied ethics and morality as part of my undergraduate degree that I obtained years ago, I doubt it very much. Maybe one day you'll grow out of your mindset that only you can be right when you can't even justify your position. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:929563515] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>Dogs being lesser life forms is not an opinion.</quote> Dogs that I know and care about having less value than a stranger is an opinion. ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>One day you'll grow out of your detatchment and moral relativity phase</quote> Given that I studied ethics and morality as part of my undergraduate degree that I obtained years ago, I doubt it very much. Maybe one day you'll grow out of your mindset that only you can be right when you can't even justify your position. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 11/02/19 12:04:31 PM #178:	IloveJesus posted... Given that I studied ethics and morality Lol --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:929563536] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote>Given that I studied ethics and morality</quote> Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 11/02/19 12:04:37 PM #179:	YokoGeri posted... There are many, many factors that go into deciding, it's not as simple as "HURR DURR HOOMANZ BE SPESHUL! HOOMAN EVERTIEM!" I agree. maybe that's some people's positions but that's not my take on it. my take is that in general, the average person is more important than a dog. there are outlier cases where the person isn't worth saving cause they deserve to die anyway. but that's my criteria - does that person deserve to die? if not, then they should be saved over a dog --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN https://imgur.com/hVC4i6j <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:929563540] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>YokoGeri posted...</cite> <quote>There are many, many factors that go into deciding, it's not as simple as "HURR DURR HOOMANZ BE SPESHUL! HOOMAN EVERTIEM!" </quote> I agree. maybe that's some people's positions but that's not my take on it. my take is that in general, the average person is more important than a dog. there are outlier cases where the person isn't worth saving cause they deserve to die anyway. but that's my criteria - does that person deserve to die? if not, then they should be saved over a dog</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 11/02/19 12:06:23 PM #180:	I did justify myself you're just ignoring it --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:929563610] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>I did justify myself you're just ignoring it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 11/02/19 12:06:43 PM #181:	ledbowman posted... Lol That just sums you up. You don't care that other people are perfectly capable of holding valid views that differ from your own. You scoff and deride because, frankly, you are inadequate. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:929563622] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>Lol</quote> That just sums you up. You don't care that other people are perfectly capable of holding valid views that differ from your own. You scoff and deride because, frankly, you are inadequate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 11/02/19 12:07:14 PM #182:	ledbowman posted... I did justify myself you're just ignoring it Bullshit. You made claims with absolutely nothing to back it up. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:929563650] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>I did justify myself you're just ignoring it</quote> Bullshit. You made claims with absolutely nothing to back it up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 11/02/19 12:08:09 PM #183:	IloveJesus posted... ledbowman posted... Lol That just sums you up. You don't care that other people are perfectly capable of holding valid views that differ from your own. You scoff and deride because, frankly, you are inadequate. Ok soctrates --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:929563687] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>Lol</quote> That just sums you up. You don't care that other people are perfectly capable of holding valid views that differ from your own. You scoff and deride because, frankly, you are inadequate. </quote> Ok soctrates</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/02/19 12:09:25 PM #184:	ledbowman posted... LinkPizza posted... ledbowman posted... Dogs being lesser life forms is not an opinion. One day you'll grow out of your detatchment and moral relativity phase But why are they lesser life forms? What makes humans so much better? Were animals, too. Just a different type... ledbowman posted... A dog does not have near the same capacity for emotion, perception, love, ect. Really? Are you sure? Dogs can read emotions exceptional well. They feel fear, sadness, and even separation anxiety. We dont know everything theyre thinking because we cant communicate to with them. But they do understand a certain amount of words. As much as a young child might. So, they might have the same capacity for all those things. Maybe more, in some cases... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929563729] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>Dogs being lesser life forms is not an opinion. One day you'll grow out of your detatchment and moral relativity phase</quote> But why are they lesser life forms? What makes humans so much better? Were animals, too. Just a different type...</quote> ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>A dog does not have near the same capacity for emotion, perception, love, ect.</quote></quote> Really? Are you sure? Dogs can read emotions exceptional well. They feel fear, sadness, and even separation anxiety. We dont know everything theyre thinking because we cant communicate to with them. But they do understand a certain amount of words. As much as a young child might. So, they might have the same capacity for all those things. Maybe more, in some cases...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 11/02/19 12:09:39 PM #185:	ledbowman posted... Ok soctrates LMAO That's the best you can do? --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:929563738] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>Ok soctrates</quote> LMAO That's the best you can do? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 11/02/19 12:09:54 PM #186:	IloveJesus posted... ledbowman posted... I did justify myself you're just ignoring it Bullshit. You made claims with absolutely nothing to back it up. Do I really need to prove to you that dogs are drooling pea brains incapable of high thought? --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:929563751] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>I did justify myself you're just ignoring it</quote> Bullshit. You made claims with absolutely nothing to back it up. </quote> Do I really need to prove to you that dogs are drooling pea brains incapable of high thought?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 11/02/19 12:10:38 PM #187:	ledbowman posted... I did justify myself you're just ignoring it Because, with no follow up isn't justifying btw. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:929563773] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>I did justify myself you're just ignoring it</quote> Because, with no follow up isn't justifying btw.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 11/02/19 12:11:03 PM #188:	LinkPizza posted... ledbowman posted... LinkPizza posted... ledbowman posted... Dogs being lesser life forms is not an opinion. One day you'll grow out of your detatchment and moral relativity phase But why are they lesser life forms? What makes humans so much better? Were animals, too. Just a different type... ledbowman posted... A dog does not have near the same capacity for emotion, perception, love, ect. Really? Are you sure? Dogs can read emotions exceptional well. They feel fear, sadness, and even separation anxiety. We dont know everything theyre thinking because we cant communicate to with them. But they do understand a certain amount of words. As much as a young child might. So, they might have the same capacity for all those things. Maybe more, in some cases... Yea I'm sure and so are you but congrats on getting replies --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:929563789] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>Dogs being lesser life forms is not an opinion. One day you'll grow out of your detatchment and moral relativity phase</quote> But why are they lesser life forms? What makes humans so much better? Were animals, too. Just a different type...</quote> ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>A dog does not have near the same capacity for emotion, perception, love, ect.</quote></quote> Really? Are you sure? Dogs can read emotions exceptional well. They feel fear, sadness, and even separation anxiety. We dont know everything theyre thinking because we cant communicate to with them. But they do understand a certain amount of words. As much as a young child might. So, they might have the same capacity for all those things. Maybe more, in some cases...</quote> Yea I'm sure and so are you but congrats on getting replies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trappedunderice 11/02/19 12:11:10 PM #189:	YokoGeri posted... ThyCorndog posted... most people are not terrorists or serial killers "HURR DURR HOOMANZ BE SPESHUL! HOOMAN EVERTIEM!" Holy shit, you can't fix stupid. --- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ4GbcuBvUQ <cite>trappedunderice posted [p:929563792] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>YokoGeri posted...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>most people are not terrorists or serial killers</quote>"HURR DURR HOOMANZ BE SPESHUL! HOOMAN EVERTIEM!"</quote> Holy shit, you can't fix stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 11/02/19 12:11:23 PM #190:	ledbowman posted... Do I really need to prove to you that dogs are drooling pea brains incapable of high thought? You claimed they lack a capacity for emotion and love, didn't you? Yeah, you're going to need to back that up as it is contrary to all of my experiences with them. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:929563796] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>Do I really need to prove to you that dogs are drooling pea brains incapable of high thought?</quote> You claimed they lack a capacity for emotion and love, didn't you? Yeah, you're going to need to back that up as it is contrary to all of my experiences with them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 11/02/19 12:13:20 PM #191:	IloveJesus posted... ledbowman posted... Do I really need to prove to you that dogs are drooling pea brains incapable of high thought? You claimed they lack a capacity for emotion and love, didn't you? Yeah, you're going to need to back that up as it is contrary to all of my experiences with them. I said they don't have near the capacity for it that people do --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:929563856] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>Do I really need to prove to you that dogs are drooling pea brains incapable of high thought?</quote> You claimed they lack a capacity for emotion and love, didn't you? Yeah, you're going to need to back that up as it is contrary to all of my experiences with them. </quote> I said they don't have near the capacity for it that people do</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YokoGeri 11/02/19 12:14:57 PM #192:	ledbowman posted... YokoGeri posted... trappedunderice posted... What are you talking about a human's life is always worth more than an animal's life in a saving situation no matter what, it's absurd to think otherwise. Again: Save a terrorist or one of those earthquake rescue dogs? "no matter what" is absurd Yes, if you are extremely pedantic That came out of nowhere. What's pedantic about it? There's nuance, deal with it. <cite>YokoGeri posted [p:929563907] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>YokoGeri posted...</cite> <quote>trappedunderice posted...</cite> <quote>What are you talking about a human's life is always worth more than an animal's life in a saving situation no matter what, it's absurd to think otherwise.</quote> Again: Save a terrorist or one of those earthquake rescue dogs? "no matter what" is absurd</quote> Yes, if you are extremely pedantic</quote> That came out of nowhere. What's pedantic about it? There's nuance, deal with it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 11/02/19 12:15:36 PM #193:	ledbowman posted... I said they don't have near the capacity for it that people do Once again, that's contrary to my experiences, so I can't agree with you unless you could present some compelling evidence. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:929563932] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>I said they don't have near the capacity for it that people do</quote> Once again, that's contrary to my experiences, so I can't agree with you unless you could present some compelling evidence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YokoGeri 11/02/19 12:18:38 PM #194:	ThyCorndog posted... YokoGeri posted... There are many, many factors that go into deciding, it's not as simple as "HURR DURR HOOMANZ BE SPESHUL! HOOMAN EVERTIEM!" I agree. maybe that's some people's positions but that's not my take on it. my take is that in general, the average person is more important than a dog. there are outlier cases where the person isn't worth saving cause they deserve to die anyway. but that's my criteria - does that person deserve to die? if not, then they should be saved over a dog This is were the nuance gets complicated. Say you have a dog. You're a middle aged woman, with no friends or close relatives. Your dog is your life, as sad as it is. You're your dog's life too, you two have a close bond. It's not surprising to imagine that such a woman would choose her life companion (that totally average dog who happens to love her and live with her for say, 14 to 17 years) rather than the mail guy who is a dick, gives her the side eye and always damages her mail (so, a pretty average mail man and person). Is she wrong? I don't know, but the nuance is there. <cite>YokoGeri posted [p:929564051] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>YokoGeri posted...</cite> <quote>There are many, many factors that go into deciding, it's not as simple as "HURR DURR HOOMANZ BE SPESHUL! HOOMAN EVERTIEM!" </quote> I agree. maybe that's some people's positions but that's not my take on it. my take is that in general, the average person is more important than a dog. there are outlier cases where the person isn't worth saving cause they deserve to die anyway. but that's my criteria - does that person deserve to die? if not, then they should be saved over a dog</quote> This is were the nuance gets complicated. Say you have a dog. You're a middle aged woman, with no friends or close relatives. Your dog is your life, as sad as it is. You're your dog's life too, you two have a close bond. It's not surprising to imagine that such a woman would choose her life companion (that totally average dog who happens to love her and live with her for say, 14 to 17 years) rather than the mail guy who is a dick, gives her the side eye and always damages her mail (so, a pretty average mail man and person). Is she wrong? I don't know, but the nuance is there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 11/02/19 12:35:20 PM #195:	YokoGeri posted... ThyCorndog posted... YokoGeri posted... There are many, many factors that go into deciding, it's not as simple as "HURR DURR HOOMANZ BE SPESHUL! HOOMAN EVERTIEM!" I agree. maybe that's some people's positions but that's not my take on it. my take is that in general, the average person is more important than a dog. there are outlier cases where the person isn't worth saving cause they deserve to die anyway. but that's my criteria - does that person deserve to die? if not, then they should be saved over a dog This is were the nuance gets complicated. Say you have a dog. You're a middle aged woman, with no friends or close relatives. Your dog is your life, as sad as it is. You're your dog's life too, you two have a close bond. It's not surprising to imagine that such a woman would choose her life companion (that totally average dog who happens to love her and live with her for say, 14 to 17 years) rather than the mail guy who is a dick, gives her the side eye and always damages her mail (so, a pretty average mail man and person). Is she wrong? I don't know, but the nuance is there. that's probably why she doesn't have any friends --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN https://imgur.com/hVC4i6j <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:929564631] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>YokoGeri posted...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>YokoGeri posted...</cite> <quote>There are many, many factors that go into deciding, it's not as simple as "HURR DURR HOOMANZ BE SPESHUL! HOOMAN EVERTIEM!" </quote> I agree. maybe that's some people's positions but that's not my take on it. my take is that in general, the average person is more important than a dog. there are outlier cases where the person isn't worth saving cause they deserve to die anyway. but that's my criteria - does that person deserve to die? if not, then they should be saved over a dog</quote> This is were the nuance gets complicated. Say you have a dog. You're a middle aged woman, with no friends or close relatives. Your dog is your life, as sad as it is. You're your dog's life too, you two have a close bond. It's not surprising to imagine that such a woman would choose her life companion (that totally average dog who happens to love her and live with her for say, 14 to 17 years) rather than the mail guy who is a dick, gives her the side eye and always damages her mail (so, a pretty average mail man and person). Is she wrong? I don't know, but the nuance is there.</quote> that's probably why she doesn't have any friends</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/02/19 12:53:50 PM #196:	ledbowman posted... LinkPizza posted... ledbowman posted... LinkPizza posted... ledbowman posted... Dogs being lesser life forms is not an opinion. One day you'll grow out of your detatchment and moral relativity phase But why are they lesser life forms? What makes humans so much better? Were animals, too. Just a different type... ledbowman posted... A dog does not have near the same capacity for emotion, perception, love, ect. Really? Are you sure? Dogs can read emotions exceptional well. They feel fear, sadness, and even separation anxiety. We dont know everything theyre thinking because we cant communicate to with them. But they do understand a certain amount of words. As much as a young child might. So, they might have the same capacity for all those things. Maybe more, in some cases... Yea I'm sure and so are you but congrats on getting replies Thats not what Im thinking because what youre saying is wrong. A dogs perception is better in most cases. Their sense or smell is better. And certain aspects of vision. The only thing is that we see more colors. Hearing, too. They can also sense anything around earlier... They also have the hormone oxytocin, which, in humans, is involved with feeling love and affection for others. Science says so. And Id believe them more than someone who seems to want to save a stranger than a part of their family who you may have raise from a very young age. You talk about a dog not being able to love (when they do), but would let a beloved pet to die to save a random stranger. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929565267] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>Dogs being lesser life forms is not an opinion. One day you'll grow out of your detatchment and moral relativity phase</quote> But why are they lesser life forms? What makes humans so much better? Were animals, too. Just a different type...</quote> ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>A dog does not have near the same capacity for emotion, perception, love, ect.</quote></quote> Really? Are you sure? Dogs can read emotions exceptional well. They feel fear, sadness, and even separation anxiety. We dont know everything theyre thinking because we cant communicate to with them. But they do understand a certain amount of words. As much as a young child might. So, they might have the same capacity for all those things. Maybe more, in some cases...</quote> Yea I'm sure and so are you but congrats on getting replies</quote> Thats not what Im thinking because what youre saying is wrong. A dogs perception is better in most cases. Their sense or smell is better. And certain aspects of vision. The only thing is that we see more colors. Hearing, too. They can also sense anything around earlier... They also have the hormone oxytocin, which, in humans, is involved with feeling love and affection for others. Science says so. And Id believe them more than someone who seems to want to save a stranger than a part of their family who you may have raise from a very young age. You talk about a dog not being able to love (when they do), but would let a beloved pet to die to save a random stranger.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 11/02/19 12:55:26 PM #197:	IloveJesus posted... Thing is though, he isn't being edgy. He's backing the majority from all the polls that actually choosing pets isn't the wrong choice. Yes he/she is. No one is claiming that we choose animals over bad people. Whenever the poll topic comes up its always your pet over a strangers baby. And your pet always wins by a large margin. A baby has just begun its life. No one knows what this hypothetical baby could accomplish in its lifetime. So yeah comparing serial killers vs pet over baby vs pet is the epitome of edgy since theyre not even in the realm of honest comparisons. It it boils down to a lot of unhinged posters her justifying their indifference to the value of human life. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:929565315] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>IloveJesus posted... </cite> <quote>Thing is though, he isn't being edgy. He's backing the majority from all the polls that actually choosing pets isn't the wrong choice.</quote>Yes he/she is. No one is claiming that we choose animals over bad people. Whenever the poll topic comes up its always your pet over a strangers baby. And your pet always wins by a large margin. A baby has just begun its life. No one knows what this hypothetical baby could accomplish in its lifetime. So yeah comparing serial killers vs pet over baby vs pet is the epitome of edgy since theyre not even in the realm of honest comparisons. It it boils down to a lot of unhinged posters her justifying their indifference to the value of human life. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/02/19 12:56:33 PM #198:	ThyCorndog posted... YokoGeri posted... ThyCorndog posted... YokoGeri posted... There are many, many factors that go into deciding, it's not as simple as "HURR DURR HOOMANZ BE SPESHUL! HOOMAN EVERTIEM!" I agree. maybe that's some people's positions but that's not my take on it. my take is that in general, the average person is more important than a dog. there are outlier cases where the person isn't worth saving cause they deserve to die anyway. but that's my criteria - does that person deserve to die? if not, then they should be saved over a dog This is were the nuance gets complicated. Say you have a dog. You're a middle aged woman, with no friends or close relatives. Your dog is your life, as sad as it is. You're your dog's life too, you two have a close bond. It's not surprising to imagine that such a woman would choose her life companion (that totally average dog who happens to love her and live with her for say, 14 to 17 years) rather than the mail guy who is a dick, gives her the side eye and always damages her mail (so, a pretty average mail man and person). Is she wrong? I don't know, but the nuance is there. that's probably why she doesn't have any friends She doesnt have friends because her mail mans a dick? --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929565359] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>YokoGeri posted...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>YokoGeri posted...</cite> <quote>There are many, many factors that go into deciding, it's not as simple as "HURR DURR HOOMANZ BE SPESHUL! HOOMAN EVERTIEM!" </quote> I agree. maybe that's some people's positions but that's not my take on it. my take is that in general, the average person is more important than a dog. there are outlier cases where the person isn't worth saving cause they deserve to die anyway. but that's my criteria - does that person deserve to die? if not, then they should be saved over a dog</quote> This is were the nuance gets complicated. Say you have a dog. You're a middle aged woman, with no friends or close relatives. Your dog is your life, as sad as it is. You're your dog's life too, you two have a close bond. It's not surprising to imagine that such a woman would choose her life companion (that totally average dog who happens to love her and live with her for say, 14 to 17 years) rather than the mail guy who is a dick, gives her the side eye and always damages her mail (so, a pretty average mail man and person). Is she wrong? I don't know, but the nuance is there.</quote> that's probably why she doesn't have any friends</quote> She doesnt have friends because her mail mans a dick?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/02/19 12:59:52 PM #199:	SolKarellen posted... I like dogs and all but it seems that social media encourages pet owners to get crazier and crazier. And yes, bringing your dog into public establishments is disgusting, especially restaurants. No, you do not need to own three cats and dogs. Pets are disgusting and you better put in the extra effort to clean after them rather than having them take over your entire living space. And I'm still convinced that owning cats makes you crazy, neurotic, and rationalizes spending so much on food, healthcare, toys, replacing damaged stuff, etc. It feels like a weird abusive relationship. Sounds like having a kid. But one that throws less tantrums... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929565458] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>SolKarellen posted...</cite> <quote>I like dogs and all but it seems that social media encourages pet owners to get crazier and crazier. And yes, bringing your dog into public establishments is disgusting, especially restaurants. No, you do not need to own three cats and dogs. Pets are disgusting and you better put in the extra effort to clean after them rather than having them take over your entire living space. And I'm still convinced that owning cats makes you crazy, neurotic, and rationalizes spending so much on food, healthcare, toys, replacing damaged stuff, etc. It feels like a weird abusive relationship.</quote> Sounds like having a kid. But one that throws less tantrums...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 11/02/19 12:59:53 PM #200:	I know for a fact my dog considers eternity --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:929565459] in I absolute... [t:78120178]...</cite> <quote>I know for a fact my dog considers eternity</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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