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Chicken_Butt
10/27/19 7:33:25 AM
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"haha bet u didn't expact that! har har got u good, lmfao... wow that rly submerged ur expecatations huh. wow i am very good director. my movie did nothing anybody expacted! look airwalker throw saber, hahaha, commissioner smoke already dedded, hahahaha i am very cool at movies. but omg such strong scenes too... look at rey in the mirror hall cave. wow! and omfg the love between rose and finn... so STRONG wow she save him... wow what a good movie i am so impressed at myself"

JJ Abrams: "Dude, what?"

Look at this absolute moron.

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apolloooo
10/27/19 7:34:25 AM
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it's just a bad movie from a mediocre franchise. dont be so butthurt
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SwayM
10/27/19 7:39:17 AM
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TLJ haters are something else. But this level of criticism isnt surprising in the least
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Chicken_Butt
10/27/19 7:39:21 AM
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But I enjoy the butthurt. I revel in it.
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Kitt
10/27/19 7:43:19 AM
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Its been two years. Can you people get off this man's dick now?
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Chicken_Butt
10/27/19 7:44:36 AM
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Nope. The new movie's releasing soon and I'm very excited to watch JJ fight the uphill battle that will be continuing off of that massive derailing of his groundwork.
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ledbowman
10/27/19 8:02:05 AM
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Cringe
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Chicken_Butt
10/27/19 8:04:39 AM
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Yep, that's correct. Cringe. Just like I did during the entire film.
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action52
10/27/19 8:06:07 AM
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lol @ the idea that JJ had all these grand plans that got "derailed" by Rian Johnson. There were no plans. JJ just made a bunch of mystery boxes for the next director to fill with whatever. And chances are that whatever they come up with is going to suck because he hasn't put in anything to make it feel earned.

This is what JJ does. We've known this since Lost.
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Cobra1010
10/27/19 8:17:57 AM
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They keep throwing in these wow/shock moments that we are numb to them after seeing so much.

And having different directors is stupid. At least don't let them write and keep the writer a constant.
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ledbowman
10/27/19 8:20:49 AM
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Cobra1010 posted...
They keep throwing in these wow/shock moments that we are numb to them after seeing so much.

Lol yall will bitch about anything
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Malfunction
10/27/19 8:21:24 AM
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action52 posted...
mystery boxes

This is what spoiler and fan theory culture has led to nerds online actively wanting though unfortunately
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AlisLandale
10/27/19 8:26:59 AM
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Tbh Im a bit disappointed that the knights of Ren and cult-like Vader-worship never went anywhere. Probably the most interesting use of any of the legacy characters and it was just sort of dropped lol.
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EzeDoesIt
10/27/19 8:29:10 AM
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Cobra1010 posted...
They keep throwing in these wow/shock moments that we are numb to them after seeing so much.

And having different directors is stupid. At least don't let them write and keep the writer a constant.

I dont mind different writers/directors for each film but there definitely should have been some sort of committee overseeing the overarching plot of the trilogy.
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K181
10/27/19 8:40:26 AM
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If a tree falls down and no one's around to hear it, will Last Jedi haters blame Rian Johnson for it?
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Prismsblade
10/27/19 8:45:41 AM
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Its takes a special kind of awful director to completely destroy one of the biggest franchises of all time in just a few years.

Seriously its impressive in a cosmic sorta way.

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ledbowman
10/27/19 8:56:14 AM
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It really is insane to not have had an outline for the whole thing before TFA. Seems what they were thinking is have Abrams set up a blank slate then bring in an actual storyteller to do something real for the Dark Middle Chapter. That's why I'm not as hopeful for ROS because Abrams' shallowness isn't as appropriate here. The one he made is my least favorite of the 8 mainline movies
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DarkRoast
10/27/19 8:58:41 AM
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JJ Abrams has a lot of problems but I readily admit the guy is Master class at making entertaining films if you really don't think about them too deeply.

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iPhone_7
10/27/19 9:09:21 AM
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If you hate The Last Jedi then you must be Alt-Right.
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Chicken_Butt
10/27/19 9:10:03 AM
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I stay out of politics because I have a chicken brain, friendo.
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Southernfatman
10/27/19 9:12:34 AM
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It reminds me of the EU in a way. One author would write a decent book that sets up stuff. Then another author comes in and just derails the entire train. Rian Johnson is like the Karen Travis of the SW movies.

Not that there's any hope for ROS. I don't get the amount of love Abrams gets and...

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Doom_Art
10/27/19 9:17:01 AM
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AlisLandale posted...
Tbh Im a bit disappointed that the knights of Ren and cult-like Vader-worship never went anywhere. Probably the most interesting use of any of the legacy characters and it was just sort of dropped lol.
You're aware there's another film coming out right

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ledbowman
10/27/19 9:21:42 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
Then another author comes in and just derails the entire train.

How is it derailed though. Why is that the framing of what is just a chapter in the story
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Prismsblade
10/27/19 9:23:31 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
You're aware there's another film coming out right
The plot leaks have already been revealed and the Knights of Ren at best will serve a very minor roll. They arent even former students of luke either which was implied prior. So in honest we have no idea who or what they are still. And there's no time in ep9 to delve into it either.

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Doom_Art
10/27/19 9:25:34 AM
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Well thanks for spoiling that for me I guess

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ledbowman
10/27/19 9:25:58 AM
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#24 wtf
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Cobra1010
10/27/19 9:36:11 AM
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And these directors consider themselves artists

They are always trying to be unique and want to prove themselves. Rian Johnson wouldnt want to just carry on with the things JJ Abrams set up. So he does exactly what he did in TLJ and changes up everything.

The direction from TFA and TLJ is so different. If it can be 25% of what the greatest Trilogy of all time TLotR is, this new star wars trilogy would be making so much more money with its die hard fandom, whilst satisfying say 80% of the fans.
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AlisLandale
10/27/19 9:44:29 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
AlisLandale posted...
Tbh Im a bit disappointed that the knights of Ren and cult-like Vader-worship never went anywhere. Probably the most interesting use of any of the legacy characters and it was just sort of dropped lol.
You're aware there's another film coming out right


Its possible they show up, but I really dont see how theyd fit them in the story this late in any way that feels satisfying or compelling. <_<
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ledbowman
10/27/19 9:45:41 AM
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Cobra1010 posted...
Rian Johnson wouldnt want to just carry on with the things JJ Abrams set up.

But that's what he did
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DarkRoast
10/27/19 9:52:24 AM
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iPhone_7 posted...
If you hate The Last Jedi then you must be Alt-Right.


I'm anything but alt-right and I thought TLJ was a total mess, and Holdo was a ****ing terrible leader

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iPhone_7
10/27/19 10:04:51 AM
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Im glad I dont read those stupid Star War comics/books. Theyve already written that the Imperial fleet turned into the First Order, and now they gotta write new s*** around that because the movie is bringing back Palpatine & his fleet. The EU is about to get more convoluted like the original EU.

Doom_Art posted...
Well thanks for spoiling that for me I guess

Doom come on. They cant possibly be consequential this late into the final act. Theyll probably just be in a flashback. Theyll get to really shine in those wonderful comics/books.
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Verdekal
10/27/19 10:06:36 AM
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His eyebrows are missing.

Anakin's eyebrows vanished when he got roasted.

Coincidence?

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EvenSpoonier
10/27/19 10:10:42 AM
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Chicken_Butt posted...
bawwwww bawwwww all my theories were wrong and I just can't handle it

ftfy
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Prismsblade
10/27/19 10:18:30 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Well thanks for spoiling that for me I guess
It's not a spoiler if it's obvious, they weren't anywhere in the final trailer. And outside of a single ad are never seen or mentioned in the other teasers to my knowledge.

Plus realistically there really is no room in the story for them to play any significant roll inbetween reys backstory and stopping palpatine, Kylos redemption, Finn and the gang reviving the resistance, nostalgia pandering and so on.

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Doom_Art
10/27/19 10:23:07 AM
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I'd have preferred to not have leaks spoiled for me thanks.

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ledbowman
10/27/19 10:37:42 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
I'd have preferred to not have leaks spoiled for me thanks.

This. It's really a simple concept
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EzeDoesIt
10/27/19 11:11:51 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
If you hate The Last Jedi then you must be Alt-Right.


I'm anything but alt-right and I thought TLJ was a total mess, and Holdo was a ****ing terrible leader

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TheGoldenEel
10/27/19 11:12:23 AM
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Wtf at 24 getting a NWD

unmarked spoilers should be deleted

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EzeDoesIt
10/27/19 11:13:06 AM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Wtf at 24 getting a NWD

unmarked spoilers should be deleted

How do you guys tell when other users get moderated?
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Garioshi
10/27/19 11:19:16 AM
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Don't you have anything better to do with your time?
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WerewolfPaws
10/27/19 11:20:49 AM
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Even as someone who was never a huge Star Wars fan, TLJ sucked so much.
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Banjo2553
10/27/19 11:21:06 AM
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EzeDoesIt posted...
TheGoldenEel posted...
Wtf at 24 getting a NWD

unmarked spoilers should be deleted

How do you guys tell when other users get moderated?

It tells you when you try to mark it.
That really was not okay, and "lack of evidence in trailers" and "it's obvious, bro!" aren't good excuses to be spilling it out there.

Either way, I always thought it was a stupid idea to have different directors for a set trilogy, and TLJ had problems, but I feel the hatred towards that movie is so overblown. It's far from the worst movie in the franchise, and it didn't ruin or demolish the franchise either.
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EvenSpoonier
10/27/19 11:27:08 AM
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ledbowman posted...
Southernfatman posted...
Then another author comes in and just derails the entire train.

How is it derailed though. Why is that the framing of what is just a chapter in the story

It's derailed because Luke isn't Goku, duh.
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IShall_Run_Amok
10/27/19 11:35:36 AM
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My favorite running gag from A Pup Named Scooby-Doo was Fred blaming everything on Red Herring.
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Jabodie
10/27/19 11:36:22 AM
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Maybe the Knights of Ren can be the villains in the next trilogy.
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EzeDoesIt
10/27/19 11:37:21 AM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
My favorite running gag from A Pup Named Scooby-Doo was Fred blaming everything on Red Herring.

22 Jump Street (or was it 21, Im not sure) had a good Red Herring gag too
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Guy_Fieri
10/27/19 11:48:14 AM
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TLJ did solidify that Kylo Ren is a certified manchild who loses every fight.
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Proto_Spark
10/27/19 11:52:15 AM
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The problem with star wars is that the movies are really pretty basic, but all the fans make everything vastly more complicated with all of the books and other side-media that making a movie just can't be met without criticism.

You can't make a simple basic movie like the other ones, because people want everything to be related and have convoluted connections to each other, and you can't make a super complicated convoluted movie because then the people who aren't star wars nerds won't bother with it. If one of these parties didn't spend 2 years whining about TLJ, this might be a more fair issue.

And also, JJ's mystery boxes were never going to give a satisfactory result, haven't any of you watched Lost?
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