Poll of the Day > Amber Guyger has immediately APPEALED her 10 year MURDER CONVICTION ALREADY!!!

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LinkPizza 10/24/19 5:24:29 PM #51:	Rasmoh posted... LinkPizza posted... I didnt say threaten them, either. So, it does sound like youre putting words in my mouth. "If you don't wait to exercise your rights, you might be punished." How is that not a threat? Not everyone. And not even every time. And even if its possible, nobody has to act on it. Then can still do it. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929193104] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>I didnt say threaten them, either. So, it does sound like youre putting words in my mouth.</quote> "If you don't wait to exercise your rights, you might be punished." How is that not a threat?</quote> Not everyone. And not even every time. And even if its possible, nobody has to act on it. Then can still do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 10/24/19 5:31:28 PM #52:	LinkPizza posted... Not everyone. And not even every time. And even if its possible, nobody has to act on it. Then can still do it. Fundamentally, you are still saying that to someone. So again, there's a level of threat involved to the affected people. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:929193365] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Not everyone. And not even every time. And even if its possible, nobody has to act on it. Then can still do it.</quote> Fundamentally, you are still saying that to someone. So again, there's a level of threat involved to the affected people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/24/19 5:33:03 PM #53:	Rasmoh posted... LinkPizza posted... Not everyone. And not even every time. And even if its possible, nobody has to act on it. Then can still do it. Fundamentally, you are still saying that to someone. So again, there's a level of threat involved to the affected people. Its not a threat. Its a possible consequence. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929193423] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Not everyone. And not even every time. And even if its possible, nobody has to act on it. Then can still do it.</quote> Fundamentally, you are still saying that to someone. So again, there's a level of threat involved to the affected people.</quote> Its not a threat. Its a possible consequence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 10/24/19 5:35:33 PM #54:	LinkPizza posted... Rasmoh posted... LinkPizza posted... Not everyone. And not even every time. And even if its possible, nobody has to act on it. Then can still do it. Fundamentally, you are still saying that to someone. So again, there's a level of threat involved to the affected people. Its not a threat. Its a possible consequence. Threat: a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done. "If you do this, there could be negative consequences for you." How is that not a threat, particularly in the context of exercising one's rights? --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:929193496] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Not everyone. And not even every time. And even if its possible, nobody has to act on it. Then can still do it.</quote> Fundamentally, you are still saying that to someone. So again, there's a level of threat involved to the affected people.</quote> Its not a threat. Its a possible consequence.</quote> Threat: a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done. "If you do this, there could be negative consequences for you." How is that not a threat, particularly in the context of exercising one's rights?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nade Duck 10/24/19 5:35:55 PM #55:	bitch needs to rot. --- https://imgur.com/ElACjJD "Most of the time, I have a whole lot more sperm inside me than most women do." - adjl <cite>Nade Duck posted [p:929193518] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>bitch needs to rot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/24/19 5:45:12 PM #56:	Rasmoh posted... LinkPizza posted... Rasmoh posted... LinkPizza posted... Not everyone. And not even every time. And even if its possible, nobody has to act on it. Then can still do it. Fundamentally, you are still saying that to someone. So again, there's a level of threat involved to the affected people. Its not a threat. Its a possible consequence. Threat: a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done. "If you do this, there could be negative consequences for you." How is that not a threat, particularly in the context of exercising one's rights? Because actions have consequences. Besides, they can always change how appeals work. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929193840] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Not everyone. And not even every time. And even if its possible, nobody has to act on it. Then can still do it.</quote> Fundamentally, you are still saying that to someone. So again, there's a level of threat involved to the affected people.</quote> Its not a threat. Its a possible consequence.</quote> Threat: a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done. "If you do this, there could be negative consequences for you." How is that not a threat, particularly in the context of exercising one's rights?</quote> Because actions have consequences. Besides, they can always change how appeals work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 10/24/19 6:04:21 PM #57:	Rasmoh posted... Threat: a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done. "If you do this, there could be negative consequences for you." How is that not a threat, particularly in the context of exercising one's rights? Freedom of rights doesn't mean freedom from consequences --- I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me - Mead on Fallout 76 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:929194645] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>Threat: a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done. "If you do this, there could be negative consequences for you." How is that not a threat, particularly in the context of exercising one's rights?</quote> Freedom of rights doesn't mean freedom from consequences</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GastroFan 10/24/19 6:54:20 PM #58:	5tarscream posted... How do you accidentally go into someone else's home? If she did get off with the crime would it set a precedent for people to straight up murder complete strangers then claim it was an accident and they thought that it was their home. Like, was she high? Does she live next door or one floor up or down or something? I believe that she lived one floor above the apartment that she stumbled into (since the door was ajar at the time) after getting off of work. What's fishy to me is that she didn't notice that she was on the wrong floor until after she killed Botham Jean. I've lived in several apartment buildings over the years and not once have I ended up on the wrong floor and in the wrong apartment. I wouldn't doubt that former office Guyer had come home thousands of times tired out from work but had never ended up on the wrong floor; so why this time? Was the floor not marked when she came up the stairwell or on the elevator buttons? All those are questions to which I haven't heard any answers. <cite>GastroFan posted [p:929196657] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>5tarscream posted...</cite> <quote>How do you accidentally go into someone else's home? If she did get off with the crime would it set a precedent for people to straight up murder complete strangers then claim it was an accident and they thought that it was their home. Like, was she high? Does she live next door or one floor up or down or something?</quote> I believe that she lived one floor above the apartment that she stumbled into (since the door was ajar at the time) after getting off of work. What's fishy to me is that she didn't notice that she was on the wrong floor until after she killed Botham Jean. I've lived in several apartment buildings over the years and not once have I ended up on the wrong floor and in the wrong apartment. I wouldn't doubt that former office Guyer had come home thousands of times tired out from work but had never ended up on the wrong floor; so why this time? Was the floor not marked when she came up the stairwell or on the elevator buttons? All those are questions to which I haven't heard any answers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 10/24/19 7:21:26 PM #59:	LinkPizza posted... Because actions have consequences. That doesn't mean it's not a threat. There's also a severely tyrannical element to the notion that there should be punishment for questioning the State. Smarkil posted... Freedom of rights doesn't mean freedom from consequences So the consequence of questioning the State should be jail? --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:929197786] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Because actions have consequences. </quote> That doesn't mean it's not a threat. There's also a severely tyrannical element to the notion that there should be punishment for questioning the State. Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>Freedom of rights doesn't mean freedom from consequences</quote> So the consequence of questioning the State should be jail?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/24/19 7:26:46 PM #60:	Rasmoh posted... That doesn't mean it's not a threat. There's also a severely tyrannical element to the notion that there should be punishment for questioning the State. Its a consequence. If you want to call all consequences threats, then do whatever you want. But its a consequence. Sometimes, things have consequences... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929198000] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>That doesn't mean it's not a threat. There's also a severely tyrannical element to the notion that there should be punishment for questioning the State.</quote> Its a consequence. If you want to call all consequences threats, then do whatever you want. But its a consequence. Sometimes, things have consequences...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 10/24/19 7:28:17 PM #61:	LinkPizza posted... Its a consequence. If you want to call all consequences threats, then do whatever you want. But its a consequence. Sometimes, things have consequences... So then you believe the consequence of exercising your right to question the State should be jail time, am I understanding that correctly? --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:929198060] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Its a consequence. If you want to call all consequences threats, then do whatever you want. But its a consequence. Sometimes, things have consequences...</quote> So then you believe the consequence of exercising your right to question the State should be jail time, am I understanding that correctly?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/24/19 8:06:19 PM #62:	Rasmoh posted... LinkPizza posted... Its a consequence. If you want to call all consequences threats, then do whatever you want. But its a consequence. Sometimes, things have consequences... So then you believe the consequence of exercising your right to question the State should be jail time, am I understanding that correctly? When did I say that? --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929199582] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Its a consequence. If you want to call all consequences threats, then do whatever you want. But its a consequence. Sometimes, things have consequences...</quote> So then you believe the consequence of exercising your right to question the State should be jail time, am I understanding that correctly?</quote> When did I say that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 10/24/19 8:18:05 PM #63:	popcorn --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:929200046] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>popcorn </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aaantlion 10/24/19 8:31:31 PM #64:	LinkPizza posted... Aaantlion posted... wtf are you on about? The perp had no known relationship with the victim nor reason to visit that apartment. The investigators and the defense also proposed no alternative reason for her to be there. But go ahead, tell us why you don't believe she did it accidentally. I'll get some popcorn. I literally said I dont know. I just dont really believe it was. And while she says they didnt have any known relationship, we dont really know if they didnt, so... Then why believe otherwise? Nichtcrawler X posted... Aaantlion posted... The perp had no known relationship with the victim nor reason to visit that apartment. I was under the impression they were neighbours? Same building, but different floors. They could have both lived in that building for years and never met once. She parked on the wrong floor, went to where her apartment would have been on her floor, and then encountered the victim. HornedLion posted... LinkPizza, how bout this... You can appeal BUT... from the time the appeal is filed to when its concluded, your current sentence is frozen. Its better than what we have and not bad enough to have folk cry about criminals rights being trampled. Penalizing people for seeking due process? Pretty sure we fought a war because of shit like that. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| Scientists are finally waking up to what pyramids have known all along. <cite>Aaantlion posted [p:929200584] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Aaantlion posted...</cite> <quote>wtf are you on about? The perp had no known relationship with the victim nor reason to visit that apartment. The investigators and the defense also proposed no alternative reason for her to be there. But go ahead, tell us why you don't believe she did it accidentally. I'll get some popcorn.</quote> I literally said I dont know. I just dont really believe it was. And while she says they didnt have any known relationship, we dont really know if they didnt, so...</quote> Then why believe otherwise? Nichtcrawler X posted...</cite> <quote>Aaantlion posted...</cite> <quote>The perp had no known relationship with the victim nor reason to visit that apartment.</quote> I was under the impression they were neighbours?</quote> Same building, but different floors. They could have both lived in that building for years and never met once. She parked on the wrong floor, went to where her apartment would have been on her floor, and then encountered the victim. HornedLion posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza, how bout this... You can appeal BUT... from the time the appeal is filed to when its concluded, your current sentence is frozen. Its better than what we have and not bad enough to have folk cry about criminals rights being trampled. </quote> Penalizing people for seeking due process? Pretty sure we fought a war because of shit like that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/24/19 8:44:05 PM #65:	Aaantlion posted... LinkPizza posted... Aaantlion posted... wtf are you on about? The perp had no known relationship with the victim nor reason to visit that apartment. The investigators and the defense also proposed no alternative reason for her to be there. But go ahead, tell us why you don't believe she did it accidentally. I'll get some popcorn. I literally said I dont know. I just dont really believe it was. And while she says they didnt have any known relationship, we dont really know if they didnt, so... Then why believe otherwise? Because it doesnt sound right. Or feels like it adds up. All Im saying is I dont think it was just a freak accident or anything. But it could be. Its just not how I feel about it. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929201041] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Aaantlion posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Aaantlion posted...</cite> <quote>wtf are you on about? The perp had no known relationship with the victim nor reason to visit that apartment. The investigators and the defense also proposed no alternative reason for her to be there. But go ahead, tell us why you don't believe she did it accidentally. I'll get some popcorn.</quote> I literally said I dont know. I just dont really believe it was. And while she says they didnt have any known relationship, we dont really know if they didnt, so...</quote> Then why believe otherwise?</quote> Because it doesnt sound right. Or feels like it adds up. All Im saying is I dont think it was just a freak accident or anything. But it could be. Its just not how I feel about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 10/25/19 12:00:59 AM #66:	LinkPizza posted... When did I say that? LinkPizza posted... Like I said, just add that there can be penalties for going for appeals --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:929208334] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>When did I say that?</quote> LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Like I said, just add that there can be penalties for going for appeals</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/25/19 12:48:43 AM #67:	Rasmoh posted... LinkPizza posted... When did I say that? LinkPizza posted... Like I said, just add that there can be penalties for going for appeals Yeah. There can be penalties. But those penalties dont have to be jail time. Thats what Im talking about. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929209723] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>When did I say that?</quote> LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Like I said, just add that there can be penalties for going for appeals</quote></quote> Yeah. There can be penalties. But those penalties dont have to be jail time. Thats what Im talking about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 10/25/19 12:51:28 AM #68:	LinkPizza posted... Yeah. There can be penalties. But those penalties dont have to be jail time. Thats what Im talking about. So then you believe someone exercising their right to question the State should be subject to punishment for doing so, is that correct? --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:929209796] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah. There can be penalties. But those penalties dont have to be jail time. Thats what Im talking about.</quote> So then you believe someone exercising their right to question the State should be subject to punishment for doing so, is that correct?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/25/19 12:55:40 AM #69:	Rasmoh posted... LinkPizza posted... Yeah. There can be penalties. But those penalties dont have to be jail time. Thats what Im talking about. So then you believe someone exercising their right to question the State should be subject to punishment for doing so, is that correct? Sure. My punishment would be to make them take a class. And if they are already taking a class, to get a job (or work extra hours doing the job). Or taking a class. But not like the college course ones if they are already taking one. But like those stupid briefings we get at work. Those can be hours long. And they have to take a test at the end. And have to score high enough to pass. If they dont, theyll have to take the class again. Those classes are almost torture, tbh... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929209893] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah. There can be penalties. But those penalties dont have to be jail time. Thats what Im talking about.</quote> So then you believe someone exercising their right to question the State should be subject to punishment for doing so, is that correct?</quote> Sure. My punishment would be to make them take a class. And if they are already taking a class, to get a job (or work extra hours doing the job). Or taking a class. But not like the college course ones if they are already taking one. But like those stupid briefings we get at work. Those can be hours long. And they have to take a test at the end. And have to score high enough to pass. If they dont, theyll have to take the class again. Those classes are almost torture, tbh...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 10/25/19 12:57:39 AM #70:	LinkPizza posted... Sure. Rad. LinkPizza thinks questioning the state should be a punishable offense. Good to know. LinkPizza posted... My punishment would be to make them take a class. And if they are already taking a class, to get a job (or work extra hours doing the job). Or taking a class. But not like the college course ones if they are already taking one. But like those stupid briefings we get at work. Those can be hours long. And they have to take a test at the end. And have to score high enough to pass. If they dont, theyll have to take the class again. Those classes are almost torture, tbh... How does this cut down on waste at all? --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:929209942] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Sure.</quote> Rad. LinkPizza thinks questioning the state should be a punishable offense. Good to know. LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>My punishment would be to make them take a class. And if they are already taking a class, to get a job (or work extra hours doing the job). Or taking a class. But not like the college course ones if they are already taking one. But like those stupid briefings we get at work. Those can be hours long. And they have to take a test at the end. And have to score high enough to pass. If they dont, theyll have to take the class again. Those classes are almost torture, tbh...</quote> How does this cut down on waste at all?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/25/19 1:02:20 AM #71:	Rasmoh posted... Rad. LinkPizza thinks questioning the state should be a punishable offense. Good to know. Thats fine if you see it that way. So, whatever. Rasmoh posted... How does this cut down on waste at all? Because it helps them to become better members of society. Some of them already do it on their own. But not all. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929210060] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>Rad. LinkPizza thinks questioning the state should be a punishable offense. Good to know.</quote> Thats fine if you see it that way. So, whatever. Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>How does this cut down on waste at all?</quote> Because it helps them to become better members of society. Some of them already do it on their own. But not all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 10/25/19 1:05:25 AM #72:	LinkPizza posted... Thats fine if you see it that way. So, whatever. I mean, that is literally what you are advocating for. LinkPizza posted... Because it helps them to become better members of society. Some of them already do it on their own. But not all. Forcing people to take classes akin to pointless work meetings that you attest to be tortuous in retaliation for questioning the state makes them better people? Seems like it's not only going to create more waste(since you have to pay people to teach these "classes"), but it won't deter anyone from filing an appeal early. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:929210126] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Thats fine if you see it that way. So, whatever.</quote> I mean, that is literally what you are advocating for. LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Because it helps them to become better members of society. Some of them already do it on their own. But not all.</quote> Forcing people to take classes akin to pointless work meetings that you attest to be tortuous in retaliation for questioning the state makes them better people? Seems like it's not only going to create more waste(since you have to pay people to teach these "classes"), but it won't deter anyone from filing an appeal early.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/25/19 1:37:51 AM #73:	Rasmoh posted... Forcing people to take classes akin to pointless work meetings that you attest to be tortuous in retaliation for questioning the state makes them better people? Seems like it's not only going to create more waste(since you have to pay people to teach these "classes"), but it won't deter anyone from filing an appeal early. The torture part is obviously a joke. But they are classes that we take that have a specific point or whatever. In the end, youre just random person that Ive barely seen before this topic. So, what you think doesnt matter. Nor will anything you say change my mind. But it can stop people from constantly wasting time. And can learn something, as well. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929210801] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>Forcing people to take classes akin to pointless work meetings that you attest to be tortuous in retaliation for questioning the state makes them better people? Seems like it's not only going to create more waste(since you have to pay people to teach these "classes"), but it won't deter anyone from filing an appeal early.</quote> The torture part is obviously a joke. But they are classes that we take that have a specific point or whatever. In the end, youre just random person that Ive barely seen before this topic. So, what you think doesnt matter. Nor will anything you say change my mind. But it can stop people from constantly wasting time. And can learn something, as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 10/25/19 3:01:05 AM #74:	LinkPizza posted... So, what you think doesnt matter. Nor will anything you say change my mind. But it can stop people from constantly wasting time. And can learn something, as well. I'm failing to see how forcing people to take a class as retaliation for daring to question the state is an effective deterrent. It won't stop anyone from doing so and it's a waste of time and it takes more resources to boot. I like how you admitted that you've decided to dig your head into the sand though. I also like how you shifted from holding people in prison in retaliation for appealing to making them take an inconsequential class for appealing. Perhaps even you realized that punishing people for questioning the State is a bit tyrannical? --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:929212303] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>So, what you think doesnt matter. Nor will anything you say change my mind. But it can stop people from constantly wasting time. And can learn something, as well.</quote> I'm failing to see how forcing people to take a class as retaliation for daring to question the state is an effective deterrent. It won't stop anyone from doing so and it's a waste of time and it takes more resources to boot. I like how you admitted that you've decided to dig your head into the sand though. I also like how you shifted from holding people in prison in retaliation for appealing to making them take an inconsequential class for appealing. Perhaps even you realized that punishing people for questioning the State is a bit tyrannical?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/25/19 12:03:14 PM #75:	Rasmoh posted... LinkPizza posted... So, what you think doesnt matter. Nor will anything you say change my mind. But it can stop people from constantly wasting time. And can learn something, as well. I'm failing to see how forcing people to take a class as retaliation for daring to question the state is an effective deterrent. It won't stop anyone from doing so and it's a waste of time and it takes more resources to boot. I like how you admitted that you've decided to dig your head into the sand though. I also like how you shifted from holding people in prison in retaliation for appealing to making them take an inconsequential class for appealing. Perhaps even you realized that punishing people for questioning the State is a bit tyrannical? It would cost that much. Anybody can teach it. Including the people that are already there and have to watch the prisoners. And no. I dont think punishment for prisoners is bad. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929223655] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>So, what you think doesnt matter. Nor will anything you say change my mind. But it can stop people from constantly wasting time. And can learn something, as well.</quote> I'm failing to see how forcing people to take a class as retaliation for daring to question the state is an effective deterrent. It won't stop anyone from doing so and it's a waste of time and it takes more resources to boot. I like how you admitted that you've decided to dig your head into the sand though. I also like how you shifted from holding people in prison in retaliation for appealing to making them take an inconsequential class for appealing. Perhaps even you realized that punishing people for questioning the State is a bit tyrannical?</quote> It would cost that much. Anybody can teach it. Including the people that are already there and have to watch the prisoners. And no. I dont think punishment for prisoners is bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 10/25/19 12:15:10 PM #76:	LinkPizza posted... It would cost that much. Anybody can teach it. Including the people that are already there and have to watch the prisoners. Don't think it's that easy to just make prison guards teach classes on top of their existing job duties. It will cost extra in some way to teach these classes. LinkPizza posted... I dont think punishment for prisoners is bad. Their prison sentence is their punishment, why do they need to be punished further for questioning the State? --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:929224103] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>It would cost that much. Anybody can teach it. Including the people that are already there and have to watch the prisoners. </quote> Don't think it's that easy to just make prison guards teach classes on top of their existing job duties. It will cost extra in some way to teach these classes. LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote> I dont think punishment for prisoners is bad.</quote> Their prison sentence is their punishment, why do they need to be punished further for questioning the State?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/25/19 12:29:15 PM #77:	Rasmoh posted... Don't think it's that easy to just make prison guards teach classes on top of their existing job duties. It will cost extra in some way to teach these classes. You give the materials. They dont need to actually learn anything I depth. They need to read from the materials. Rasmoh posted... Their prison sentence is their punishment, why do they need to be punished further for questioning the State? The punishment isnt for questioning the state. Its for wasting time and resources. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929224623] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>Don't think it's that easy to just make prison guards teach classes on top of their existing job duties. It will cost extra in some way to teach these classes. </quote> You give the materials. They dont need to actually learn anything I depth. They need to read from the materials. Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>Their prison sentence is their punishment, why do they need to be punished further for questioning the State?</quote> The punishment isnt for questioning the state. Its for wasting time and resources.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 10/25/19 1:14:08 PM #78:	LinkPizza posted... You give the materials. They dont need to actually learn anything I depth. They need to read from the materials. "They" being the prisoners? Or the guards? LinkPizza posted... The punishment isnt for questioning the state. Its for wasting time and resources. It is de facto for questioning the state because exercising your rights typically isn't considered wasting time and resources to people who aren't fascists like yourself. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:929226396] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>You give the materials. They dont need to actually learn anything I depth. They need to read from the materials.</quote> "They" being the prisoners? Or the guards? LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>The punishment isnt for questioning the state. Its for wasting time and resources.</quote> It is de facto for questioning the state because exercising your rights typically isn't considered wasting time and resources to people who aren't fascists like yourself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/25/19 1:57:15 PM #79:	Rasmoh posted... "They" being the prisoners? Or the guards? The guards. They make us do training all the time by giving us the material. It even has examples... Rasmoh posted... It is de facto for questioning the state because exercising your rights typically isn't considered wasting time and resources to people who aren't fascists like yourself. It is when you are wasting time, though. Especially in this case. The trial was fair. At least for her. 10 years for murder is usually pretty good. Also, theres no new evidence. The case just finished. It seems like wasting time and resources when she could have at least waited a couple months. Talks about kicking a family when theyre down... Basically, it doesnt seem like theres any reason for an appeal already... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929228049] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>"They" being the prisoners? Or the guards?</quote> The guards. They make us do training all the time by giving us the material. It even has examples... Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>It is de facto for questioning the state because exercising your rights typically isn't considered wasting time and resources to people who aren't fascists like yourself.</quote> It is when you are wasting time, though. Especially in this case. The trial was fair. At least for her. 10 years for murder is usually pretty good. Also, theres no new evidence. The case just finished. It seems like wasting time and resources when she could have at least waited a couple months. Talks about kicking a family when theyre down... Basically, it doesnt seem like theres any reason for an appeal already...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OrangeDawn 10/25/19 2:26:25 PM #80:	Wow this topic was a gigantic waste of time and I wouldn't have read it knowing its like 80% rasmoh and linkpizza arguing about nothing and then 10% zeus caping for racists --- 3DS Friend Code: 3308-5843-0863 Town: Virginia <cite>OrangeDawn posted [p:929229199] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Wow this topic was a gigantic waste of time and I wouldn't have read it knowing its like 80% rasmoh and linkpizza arguing about nothing and then 10% zeus caping for racists</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 10/25/19 2:53:07 PM #81:	LinkPizza posted... The guards. They make us do training all the time by giving us the material. It even has examples... So these guards are going to take on the duty of teaching hours long classes on top of their current responsibilities? How is that going to work without either dishing out raises or hiring more staff? LinkPizza posted... It is when you are wasting time, though. And why are you qualified to determine what is a waste of time? What is a waste of time to you is a chance at freedom to the appelant. LinkPizza posted... Basically, it doesnt seem like theres any reason for an appeal already... New evidence isn't the only reason to appeal. You saying that the trial was fair doesn't actually make it so, that's the job of the appellate court to decide. That's literally the purpose of the appellate process. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:929230292] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>The guards. They make us do training all the time by giving us the material. It even has examples...</quote> So these guards are going to take on the duty of teaching hours long classes on top of their current responsibilities? How is that going to work without either dishing out raises or hiring more staff? LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>It is when you are wasting time, though. </quote> And why are you qualified to determine what is a waste of time? What is a waste of time to you is a chance at freedom to the appelant. LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Basically, it doesnt seem like theres any reason for an appeal already...</quote> New evidence isn't the only reason to appeal. You saying that the trial was fair doesn't actually make it so, that's the job of the appellate court to decide. That's literally the purpose of the appellate process.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/25/19 3:15:47 PM #82:	Rasmoh posted... So these guards are going to take on the duty of teaching hours long classes on top of their current responsibilities? How is that going to work without either dishing out raises or hiring more staff? Dont they have guards who already watch the prisoners. They can teach the class while watching the prisoners theyre teaching. Rasmoh posted... And why are you qualified to determine what is a waste of time? What is a waste of time to you is a chance at freedom to the appelant. Who said I was? I wouldnt be the one making the decisions. It would be up to the people dealing with the prisoners. Rasmoh posted... New evidence isn't the only reason to appeal. You saying that the trial was fair doesn't actually make it so, that's the job of the appellate court to decide. That's literally the purpose of the appellate process. And if they found out the trial was fair, and feels it was a waste of time, they could deal with it appropriately. Like if they found there was no reason to appeal at all or something. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929231206] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>So these guards are going to take on the duty of teaching hours long classes on top of their current responsibilities? How is that going to work without either dishing out raises or hiring more staff?</quote> Dont they have guards who already watch the prisoners. They can teach the class while watching the prisoners theyre teaching. Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>And why are you qualified to determine what is a waste of time? What is a waste of time to you is a chance at freedom to the appelant.</quote> Who said I was? I wouldnt be the one making the decisions. It would be up to the people dealing with the prisoners. Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>New evidence isn't the only reason to appeal. You saying that the trial was fair doesn't actually make it so, that's the job of the appellate court to decide. That's literally the purpose of the appellate process.</quote> And if they found out the trial was fair, and feels it was a waste of time, they could deal with it appropriately. Like if they found there was no reason to appeal at all or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 10/25/19 4:23:14 PM #83:	Rasmoh posted... So the consequence of questioning the State should be jail? yes that's obviously what the founding fathers intended they wanted the government to be able to put a bunch of restrictions on your rights so as to make them impossible to exercise in practice --- I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me - Mead on Fallout 76 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:929233884] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>So the consequence of questioning the State should be jail?</quote> yes that's obviously what the founding fathers intended they wanted the government to be able to put a bunch of restrictions on your rights so as to make them impossible to exercise in practice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 10/25/19 4:47:27 PM #85:	LinkPizza posted... Dont they have guards who already watch the prisoners. They can teach the class while watching the prisoners theyre teaching. That doesn't work because the not all prisoners are prisoners being forced to take a class as retaliation for exercising their rights. LinkPizza posted... Who said I was? I wouldnt be the one making the decisions. It would be up to the people dealing with the prisoners. By virtue of you putting forth the argument that people should be punished for appealing, you are. LinkPizza posted... And if they found out the trial was fair, and feels it was a waste of time, they could deal with it appropriately. Like if they found there was no reason to appeal at all or something. That's not how the appellate process works though. Appeals are literally a request for another party to review the case. There doesn't need to be a specific reason set forth because there could be things that the parties involved in trying and defending the case missed. An appeal can literally just be the party appealing saying "we want this looked over by a neutral party to make everything that happened was appropriate." They are a prime example of the numerous checks and balances in our system. Again, you are proposing to punish people for questioning the State's decision. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:929234815] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Dont they have guards who already watch the prisoners. They can teach the class while watching the prisoners theyre teaching.</quote> That doesn't work because the not all prisoners are prisoners being forced to take a class as retaliation for exercising their rights. LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Who said I was? I wouldnt be the one making the decisions. It would be up to the people dealing with the prisoners.</quote> By virtue of you putting forth the argument that people should be punished for appealing, you are. LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>And if they found out the trial was fair, and feels it was a waste of time, they could deal with it appropriately. Like if they found there was no reason to appeal at all or something.</quote> That's not how the appellate process works though. Appeals are literally a request for another party to review the case. There doesn't need to be a specific reason set forth because there could be things that the parties involved in trying and defending the case missed. An appeal can literally just be the party appealing saying "we want this looked over by a neutral party to make everything that happened was appropriate." They are a prime example of the numerous checks and balances in our system. Again, you are proposing to punish people for questioning the State's decision.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/25/19 4:59:39 PM #86:	Rasmoh posted... That doesn't work because the not all prisoners are prisoners being forced to take a class as retaliation for exercising their rights. Which is why not all of them will take it... Rasmoh posted... By virtue of you putting forth the argument that people should be punished for appealing, you are. No, Im not. I had the idea. Who decides isnt me, though. Rasmoh posted... That's not how the appellate process works though. Appeals are literally a request for another party to review the case. There doesn't need to be a specific reason set forth because there could be things that the parties involved in trying and defending the case missed. An appeal can literally just be the party appealing saying "we want this looked over by a neutral party to make everything that happened was appropriate." They are a prime example of the numerous checks and balances in our system. Again, you are proposing to punish people for questioning the State's decision. No. Its like youre not listening at all. They arent being punished for questioning the states decision. But for wasting time. If there were things missed, then its not a waste as things were missed. If everything was fair, though, then it seems wasteful. And they have to take a class. It waste some of their free time, while also teaching something. Like school, basically... Or my job when they give this classes on our off time... But in the end, Im not the one deciding if its a waste of not... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929235385] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>That doesn't work because the not all prisoners are prisoners being forced to take a class as retaliation for exercising their rights.</quote> Which is why not all of them will take it... Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>By virtue of you putting forth the argument that people should be punished for appealing, you are.</quote> No, Im not. I had the idea. Who decides isnt me, though. Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>That's not how the appellate process works though. Appeals are literally a request for another party to review the case. There doesn't need to be a specific reason set forth because there could be things that the parties involved in trying and defending the case missed. An appeal can literally just be the party appealing saying "we want this looked over by a neutral party to make everything that happened was appropriate." They are a prime example of the numerous checks and balances in our system. Again, you are proposing to punish people for questioning the State's decision.</quote> No. Its like youre not listening at all. They arent being punished for questioning the states decision. But for wasting time. If there were things missed, then its not a waste as things were missed. If everything was fair, though, then it seems wasteful. And they have to take a class. It waste some of their free time, while also teaching something. Like school, basically... Or my job when they give this classes on our off time... But in the end, Im not the one deciding if its a waste of not...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raddest_Chad 10/25/19 5:13:45 PM #87:	Yo, I think they need to hunger games the prison system. Ads will cover the cost of housing inmates to unburden the man from paying the whole thing. Gotta get rid of private prisons though, those are a bad call already and would be some running man shit this way. have themed teams. winning team gets X amount of time off their sentence unless it's violent crime (then they get cool stuff for their cell), losers who survive get nothing. make it totally voluntary. you could argue you're just making super killers, but i think anybody that survived would be PTSD'd out the ass and probably not wanna risk going back <cite>Raddest_Chad posted [p:929235927] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Yo, I think they need to hunger games the prison system. Ads will cover the cost of housing inmates to unburden the man from paying the whole thing. Gotta get rid of private prisons though, those are a bad call already and would be some running man shit this way. have themed teams. winning team gets X amount of time off their sentence unless it's violent crime (then they get cool stuff for their cell), losers who survive get nothing. make it totally voluntary. you could argue you're just making super killers, but i think anybody that survived would be PTSD'd out the ass and probably not wanna risk going back</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 10/25/19 5:40:20 PM #88:	LinkPizza posted... Which is why not all of them will take it... Then you will need different guards to teach the classes because they can't teach the classes and supervise the inmates at the same time. LinkPizza posted... No. Its like youre not listening at all. I am, you're just being either disingenuous or deliberately obtuse. Having a potential punishment for unsuccessfully appealing a criminal case is punishing someone for questioning the State. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:929237020] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Which is why not all of them will take it...</quote> Then you will need different guards to teach the classes because they can't teach the classes and supervise the inmates at the same time. LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>No. Its like youre not listening at all. </quote> I am, you're just being either disingenuous or deliberately obtuse. Having a potential punishment for unsuccessfully appealing a criminal case is punishing someone for questioning the State.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/25/19 5:47:57 PM #89:	Rasmoh posted... Then you will need different guards to teach the classes because they can't teach the classes and supervise the inmates at the same time. No. They just wait until they have a good amount of people. And it doesnt have to be only people from appeals. Rasmoh posted... I am, you're just being either disingenuous or deliberately obtuse. Having a potential punishment for unsuccessfully appealing a criminal case is punishing someone for questioning the State. No. Because not everyone who questions the state will have to go. Only people who waste time. So, people can question the state all they want. But when they waste time, that when this happens. Understand now? People arent getting punished for questioning the state. And again, Im not being disingenuous or deliberately obtuse. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929237326] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>Then you will need different guards to teach the classes because they can't teach the classes and supervise the inmates at the same time.</quote> No. They just wait until they have a good amount of people. And it doesnt have to be only people from appeals. Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>I am, you're just being either disingenuous or deliberately obtuse. Having a potential punishment for unsuccessfully appealing a criminal case is punishing someone for questioning the State.</quote> No. Because not everyone who questions the state will have to go. Only people who waste time. So, people can question the state all they want. But when they waste time, that when this happens. Understand now? People arent getting punished for questioning the state. And again, Im not being disingenuous or deliberately obtuse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 10/26/19 12:19:36 AM #90:	LinkPizza posted... People arent getting punished for questioning the state They absolutely are in your scenario though. You are proposing a punishment for being unsuccessful in an appeal. I feel like I'm being trolled at this point. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:929250625] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>People arent getting punished for questioning the state</quote> They absolutely are in your scenario though. You are proposing a punishment for being unsuccessful in an appeal. I feel like I'm being trolled at this point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/26/19 12:52:12 AM #91:	Rasmoh posted... LinkPizza posted... People arent getting punished for questioning the state They absolutely are in your scenario though. You are proposing a punishment for being unsuccessful in an appeal. I feel like I'm being trolled at this point. No. When did I say it had to be successful. All I said was if they waste time. But that doesnt mean it has to be successful. And as I said, its not punishment for questioning the state. Its punishment for wasting time. Its like you arent reading at all. If it was punishment for questioning the state, then it wouldnt matter if they wasted time or were successful. It would be punishing anyone who appealed. But I said only if time is wasted. It there is evidence overlooked, that doesnt really seem like wasted time. Or if there is new evidence. Or something that proves that something was unfair. Or really anything. In the end, its not up to me to decide what counts as wasted time. But its punishment for that. If you dont understand that, I dont know what to tell you. But its obviously not punishment for questioning the state or that would mean to punish anyone who appeals at all. And I didnt say that. Only when time is wasted. And even then, the judge or whoever doesnt have to punish them. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929251463] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>People arent getting punished for questioning the state</quote> They absolutely are in your scenario though. You are proposing a punishment for being unsuccessful in an appeal. I feel like I'm being trolled at this point.</quote> No. When did I say it had to be successful. All I said was if they waste time. But that doesnt mean it has to be successful. And as I said, its not punishment for questioning the state. Its punishment for wasting time. Its like you arent reading at all. If it was punishment for questioning the state, then it wouldnt matter if they wasted time or were successful. It would be punishing anyone who appealed. But I said only if time is wasted. It there is evidence overlooked, that doesnt really seem like wasted time. Or if there is new evidence. Or something that proves that something was unfair. Or really anything. In the end, its not up to me to decide what counts as wasted time. But its punishment for that. If you dont understand that, I dont know what to tell you. But its obviously not punishment for questioning the state or that would mean to punish anyone who appeals at all. And I didnt say that. Only when time is wasted. And even then, the judge or whoever doesnt have to punish them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 10/26/19 1:08:54 AM #92:	LinkPizza posted... No. When did I say it had to be successful. All I said was if they waste time. But that doesnt mean it has to be successful. And as I said, its not punishment for questioning the state. Its punishment for wasting time. Its like you arent reading at all. If it was punishment for questioning the state, then it wouldnt matter if they wasted time or were successful. It would be punishing anyone who appealed. But I said only if time is wasted. It there is evidence overlooked, that doesnt really seem like wasted time. Or if there is new evidence. Or something that proves that something was unfair. Or really anything. In the end, its not up to me to decide what counts as wasted time. But its punishment for that. If you dont understand that, I dont know what to tell you. But its obviously not punishment for questioning the state or that would mean to punish anyone who appeals at all. And I didnt say that. Only when time is wasted. And even then, the judge or whoever doesnt have to punish them. Ultimately, you are looking to punish anyone who is unsuccessful in appealing a case. It's interesting that you went from jailing people for appealing to maybe making people take a class for appealing though after a lengthy review to determine whether or not the appeal was a "waste of time"(which is something the appellant can't possibly know) though. Did you realize just how fascist your idea was? --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:929251902] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>No. When did I say it had to be successful. All I said was if they waste time. But that doesnt mean it has to be successful. And as I said, its not punishment for questioning the state. Its punishment for wasting time. Its like you arent reading at all. If it was punishment for questioning the state, then it wouldnt matter if they wasted time or were successful. It would be punishing anyone who appealed. But I said only if time is wasted. It there is evidence overlooked, that doesnt really seem like wasted time. Or if there is new evidence. Or something that proves that something was unfair. Or really anything. In the end, its not up to me to decide what counts as wasted time. But its punishment for that. If you dont understand that, I dont know what to tell you. But its obviously not punishment for questioning the state or that would mean to punish anyone who appeals at all. And I didnt say that. Only when time is wasted. And even then, the judge or whoever doesnt have to punish them.</quote> Ultimately, you are looking to punish anyone who is unsuccessful in appealing a case. It's interesting that you went from jailing people for appealing to maybe making people take a class for appealing though after a lengthy review to determine whether or not the appeal was a "waste of time"(which is something the appellant can't possibly know) though. Did you realize just how fascist your idea was?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/26/19 1:23:24 AM #93:	Rasmoh posted... LinkPizza posted... No. When did I say it had to be successful. All I said was if they waste time. But that doesnt mean it has to be successful. And as I said, its not punishment for questioning the state. Its punishment for wasting time. Its like you arent reading at all. If it was punishment for questioning the state, then it wouldnt matter if they wasted time or were successful. It would be punishing anyone who appealed. But I said only if time is wasted. It there is evidence overlooked, that doesnt really seem like wasted time. Or if there is new evidence. Or something that proves that something was unfair. Or really anything. In the end, its not up to me to decide what counts as wasted time. But its punishment for that. If you dont understand that, I dont know what to tell you. But its obviously not punishment for questioning the state or that would mean to punish anyone who appeals at all. And I didnt say that. Only when time is wasted. And even then, the judge or whoever doesnt have to punish them. Ultimately, you are looking to punish anyone who is unsuccessful in appealing a case. It's interesting that you went from jailing people for appealing to maybe making people take a class for appealing though after a lengthy review to determine whether or not the appeal was a "waste of time"(which is something the appellant can't possibly know) though. Did you realize just how fascist your idea was? No. Im not. Because it doesnt matter if the appeal is successful or not. Since that doesnt matter. For example, maybe they found new evidence. And they wanted an appeal on that. It in the end, it didnt prove anything. So, in that case, the appeal had a good reason to happen, and they decided that it wasnt a waste of time. And in that case, no punishment even though the appeal failed. I didnt say we had to. HornedLion said jail them. I agreed that there should be a punishment. But even then, I said for certain cases. And its not fascist. But with your hard on for rights, should we just not jail people at all? Since jailing them takes away their rights and all... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:929252190] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>No. When did I say it had to be successful. All I said was if they waste time. But that doesnt mean it has to be successful. And as I said, its not punishment for questioning the state. Its punishment for wasting time. Its like you arent reading at all. If it was punishment for questioning the state, then it wouldnt matter if they wasted time or were successful. It would be punishing anyone who appealed. But I said only if time is wasted. It there is evidence overlooked, that doesnt really seem like wasted time. Or if there is new evidence. Or something that proves that something was unfair. Or really anything. In the end, its not up to me to decide what counts as wasted time. But its punishment for that. If you dont understand that, I dont know what to tell you. But its obviously not punishment for questioning the state or that would mean to punish anyone who appeals at all. And I didnt say that. Only when time is wasted. And even then, the judge or whoever doesnt have to punish them.</quote> Ultimately, you are looking to punish anyone who is unsuccessful in appealing a case. It's interesting that you went from jailing people for appealing to maybe making people take a class for appealing though after a lengthy review to determine whether or not the appeal was a "waste of time"(which is something the appellant can't possibly know) though. Did you realize just how fascist your idea was?</quote> No. Im not. Because it doesnt matter if the appeal is successful or not. Since that doesnt matter. For example, maybe they found new evidence. And they wanted an appeal on that. It in the end, it didnt prove anything. So, in that case, the appeal had a good reason to happen, and they decided that it wasnt a waste of time. And in that case, no punishment even though the appeal failed. I didnt say we had to. HornedLion said jail them. I agreed that there should be a punishment. But even then, I said for certain cases. And its not fascist. But with your hard on for rights, should we just not jail people at all? Since jailing them takes away their rights and all...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_iPhone_ 10/29/19 10:29:05 AM #94:	Ok --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHzZoiK5jDY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTRJ7XziwMk <cite>_iPhone_ posted [p:929382969] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Ok</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/29/19 12:07:21 PM #95:	Rasmoh posted... You are proposing a punishment for being unsuccessful in an appeal. Looks more like an expansion of "contempt of court" to include calling the court to session for nothing. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:929386563] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>You are proposing a punishment for being unsuccessful in an appeal.</quote> Looks more like an expansion of "contempt of court" to include calling the court to session for nothing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 10/29/19 12:21:49 PM #96:	Nah. She killed that dude being drunk and armed while breaking and entering into his house. 10 years is light for a racist cop killing an unarmed black man in his residence. Appeals just waste taxpayer money in most instances. Her case was very clear cut. --- Align your chakras, it starts with your breathing. http://www.arfalpha.com/ScienceOfBreath/ScienceOfBreath.htm <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:929387139] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Nah. She killed that dude being drunk and armed while breaking and entering into his house. 10 years is light for a racist cop killing an unarmed black man in his residence. Appeals just waste taxpayer money in most instances. Her case was very clear cut.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 10/29/19 1:11:28 PM #97:	all the people being nice to her in court pissed me off. why the fuck is this lady getting so much consideration when she murdered someone? if a black cop had mistakenly shot a white woman in her own home, he would not have been treated so well <cite>Zikten posted [p:929389148] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>all the people being nice to her in court pissed me off. why the fuck is this lady getting so much consideration when she murdered someone? if a black cop had mistakenly shot a white woman in her own home, he would not have been treated so well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 10/29/19 1:12:10 PM #98:	also I think if the victim of this case had been able to kill the cop in self defense, this trial would have been VERY different. he'd probably get Life <cite>Zikten posted [p:929389180] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>also I think if the victim of this case had been able to kill the cop in self defense, this trial would have been VERY different. he'd probably get Life</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/29/19 1:34:28 PM #99:	Zikten posted... if a black cop had mistakenly shot a white woman in her own home, he would not have been treated so well I beg to differ, in fact I'd expect BLM to sue the city if they ever brought it to court. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:929390168] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>if a black cop had mistakenly shot a white woman in her own home, he would not have been treated so well</quote> I beg to differ, in fact I'd expect BLM to sue the city if they ever brought it to court.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 10/29/19 1:35:24 PM #100:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Zikten posted... if a black cop had mistakenly shot a white woman in her own home, he would not have been treated so well I beg to differ, in fact I'd expect BLM to sue the city if they ever brought it to court. @EvilMegas --- Align your chakras, it starts with your breathing. http://www.arfalpha.com/ScienceOfBreath/ScienceOfBreath.htm <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:929390209] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>if a black cop had mistakenly shot a white woman in her own home, he would not have been treated so well</quote> I beg to differ, in fact I'd expect BLM to sue the city if they ever brought it to court.</quote> @EvilMegas</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EvilMegas 10/29/19 1:38:41 PM #101:	I don't have it in me lol --- Official King of Black People https://imgur.com/Zk3VS3o http://imgur.com/a/UeQiE https://imgur.com/aSnCUuI <cite>EvilMegas posted [p:929390351] in Amber Guyg... [t:78106873]...</cite> <quote>I don't have it in me lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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