Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 245: Delecto the Funky Mormon Senator

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SmartMuffin posted...

BRB volunteering for the Katie Hill campaign

Seriously??? Hitting the bong on 9/11 while showing off your iron cross tat on a wife-swapping website? This has to put her among the top 5 most badass members of Congress, right?

Don't even think about resigning or apologizing, girl! Own this and you might be President one day!

so are you just openly cheerleading for nazis now or what
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Well a quick google search turned my "what nonsense is Muffin babbling about now" into a "what the hell is even going on here" really quick.

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Guess the daily mail is posting revenge porn now

very legal and very cool!

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Lindsey gets 44 GOP Senators to back his bullshit motion to condemn the impeachment inquiry:

https://twitter.com/JesseLehrich/status/1187467173742039042

Follow up tweet shows two more senators have joined on already.

I expect Romney/Murkowski to be the only holdouts honestly.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Lindsey gets 44 GOP Senators to back his bullshit motion to condemn the impeachment inquiry:

https://twitter.com/JesseLehrich/status/1187467173742039042

Up to 46 now.

Remember pre-Trump winning when it seemed like Lindsey Graham was going to be a vocal dissident?

Lmao
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so are you just openly cheerleading for nazis now or what

You must be confused. She's a democrat, so it's okay!
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SmartMuffin posted...

so are you just openly cheerleading for nazis now or what

You must be confused. She's a democrat, so it's okay!

Literally no one says this.
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Famous democrat Harold Q. Strawman notably said it before.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

Lindsey gets 44 GOP Senators to back his bullshit motion to condemn the impeachment inquiry:

https://twitter.com/JesseLehrich/status/1187467173742039042

Up to 46 now.

Remember pre-Trump winning when it seemed like Lindsey Graham was going to be a vocal dissident?

Lmao

Remember that he was at least a somewhat vocal dissident, then went golfing with Donald and did a complete and total 180.

gee I wonder what happened while they were golfing...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Remember pre-Trump winning when it seemed like Lindsey Graham was going to be a vocal dissident?

Lmao

Remember literally just last week when he was raising hell about Trump's actions in Turkey/Syria and is now first in line to lead the defense force?

l m a o

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It's almost like it's possible to disagree with Trump on specific policy issues, while still not supporting having him overthrown in a CIA-led coup.
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Wow I didnt realize the CIA held Trump hostage and forced him to threaten Ukraines military aid in order to get them to open up an investigation into one of his most likely general election opponents! Guess theyre really committed to this coup!

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SmartMuffin posted...

It's almost like it's possible to disagree with Trump on specific policy issues, while still not supporting having him overthrown in a CIA-led coup.

It's almost like there are actual methods of accountability to use when the leader of the country is a risk to national security instead of just respectfully disagreeing and doing nothing.

Literally "almost like", however, because at this rate of opposition he won't be removed and the "coup" will fail. So don't worry.

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Not_an_Owl posted...

SmartMuffin posted...

BRB volunteering for the Katie Hill campaign

Seriously??? Hitting the bong on 9/11 while showing off your iron cross tat on a wife-swapping website? This has to put her among the top 5 most badass members of Congress, right?

Don't even think about resigning or apologizing, girl! Own this and you might be President one day!

so are you just openly cheerleading for nazis now or what

odds are its actually the logo for a skateboard company and not a nazi thing so hes probably just cheerleading for a cool lady

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Truck_Company#Logo
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yeah, like I said

SmartMuffin posted...

so are you just openly cheerleading for nazis now or what

You must be confused. She's a democrat, so it's okay!

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if she actually had a straight up nazi iron cross tattoo it would be not ok
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I remember a few years ago, Muffin was soft defending the neo nazis at the Charlottesville. I don't remember the question I asked him, but I recall him always being too busy to explain.

So it's nice to see him a little more honest here.
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

if she actually had a straight up nazi iron cross tattoo it would be not ok

and im sure you'd be just as immediately rushing to come up with any other possible explanation if it was a white male conservative
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SmartMuffin posted...

MoogleKupo141 posted...

if she actually had a straight up nazi iron cross tattoo it would be not ok

and im sure you'd be just as immediately rushing to come up with any other possible explanation if it was a white male conservative

the Venn diagram of conservatives and nazis has way more overlap

so yeah, im more inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt because it being a nazi thing doesnt line up with the rest of my knowledge about her
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SmartMuffin posted...

MoogleKupo141 posted...

if she actually had a straight up nazi iron cross tattoo it would be not ok

and im sure you'd be just as immediately rushing to come up with any other possible explanation if it was a white male conservative

Don't act indignant when you literally wouldn't care if they were an actual nazi, dude.
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SmartMuffin posted...

MoogleKupo141 posted...

if she actually had a straight up nazi iron cross tattoo it would be not ok

and im sure you'd be just as immediately rushing to come up with any other possible explanation if it was a white male conservative

Pretty sure if she came out as a nazi she'd be dumped super quick.

Look at how quickly we dumped Al Franken.
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/24/20930422/bernie-sanders-marijuana-legalization-plan

Actual Headline: Bernie Sanders released a plan to legalize marijuana (at 4:20 pm)
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You can't legalize marijuana through executive action.
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TheRock1525 posted...

You can't legalize marijuana through executive action.

Try reading the article to understand how his plan works?

It's quite reasonable, really.

TheRock1525 posted...

You can't legalize marijuana through executive action.

Read the damn article.
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Did read it, the actual legalizing would be done by congress, not him. The best he can do is "pressure" or nonsense like "effectively make legal" which is the same nonsense they tried to spew with DACA.

If Dems don't take back the Senate then it's not gonna happen. There's still too many hold outs.
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Are you sure you read it?

He can direct the AG to deschedule it.

If its not illegal, then its effectively Federally legal, and theres really no reason to make the semantic argument otherwise.
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Why wouldn't Republicans legalize marijuana? It's a wedge issue, and it smells bad. But it's not a wedge issue that wins them votes for opposing it anymore.

But how about a national ban on smoking in public places around people?
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Yeah this feels like one of those laws where marijuana is not explicitly illegal by law - rather the law allows the President and/or his assignees to designate certain substances as dangerous and illegal.
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red sox 777 posted...

Why wouldn't Republicans legalize marijuana? It's a wedge issue, and it smells bad. But it's not a wedge issue that wins them votes for opposing it anymore.

But how about a national ban on smoking in public places around people?

I would be ok with both of these.

Legalize it.

No smoking around people who don't agree to it/areas designated for it.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

I would be ok with both of these.

Legalize it.

No smoking around people who don't agree to it/areas designated for it.

This is kind of already how it works here in California.

Mainly because private property laws and previous smoking laws apply.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

If its not illegal, then its effectively Federally legal

Once again, that's the same excuse they used with stuff like DACA or enforcing DOMA. There's no real teeth to it, it's why Trump's border wall is going nowhere despite all his executive orders.
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Marijuana is only illegal because of the Controlled Substances Act.

If you remove it from the Controlled Substances list, it's not illegal.
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Weed is still illegal in Texas despite it supposedly being America's closest thing to a libertarian ideal. The governor specifically is anti-weed but the biggest guesses as to why Republicans don't want it are:

1) Tobacco and alcohol industry lobbying (probably the biggest reason)
2) It does still play to the Christian base (not sure if there is polling on this)
3) boomers?

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SmartMuffin posted...

so are you just openly cheerleading for nazis now or what

You must be confused. She's a democrat, so it's okay!

You read these topics and come to the conclusion that the left isnt critical of itself?
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TheRock1525 posted...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

If its not illegal, then its effectively Federally legal

Once again, that's the same excuse they used with stuff like DACA or enforcing DOMA. There's no real teeth to it, it's why Trump's border wall is going nowhere despite all his executive orders.

What do you mean? DACA is an executive order not to enforce a law. It is basically the archetypal example of one. President Obama didn't want to sign it while he still held out hope Congress might change the immigration laws because he thought DACA was probably unconstitutional.

But no, this is different from that. DACA didn't make it legal to be an illegal immigrant in the country. It just said that under certain conditions, you would not be prosecuted for it. If marijuana is taken off of the drug schedules it would no longer be illegal at all. No prosecution could lie against you even if one was prosecuted.
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Weed is still illegal in Texas despite it supposedly being America's closest thing to a libertarian ideal. The governor specifically is anti-weed but the biggest guesses as to why Republicans don't want it are:

1) Tobacco and alcohol industry lobbying (probably the biggest reason)
2) It does still play to the Christian base (not sure if there is polling on this)
3) boomers?

Texas is a libertarian ideal? A state that executes about the same number of people as the other 49 put together?
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But um, DACA is actually an extremely dangerous concept. If DACA is constitutional, it's really hard to say why DARC - Deferred Action on Republican Corruption - wouldn't be. That would be an executive order directing that no one is to be prosecuted for any kind of corruption if they are Republican.
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red sox 777 posted...

Texas is a libertarian ideal? A state that executes about the same number of people as the other 49 put together?

There's no state income tax and you can have many guns and own huge tracts of land for cheap so yes, close enough to what passes for libertarianism in America.

Key word in the original sentence is "supposedly."

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You read these topics

pffft, no
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

red sox 777 posted...

Texas is a libertarian ideal? A state that executes about the same number of people as the other 49 put together?

There's no state income tax and you can have many guns and own huge tracts of land for cheap so yes, close enough to what passes for libertarianism in America.

Key word in the original sentence is "supposedly."

New Hampshire does all of that and doesn't require people to wear seat belts or buy car insurance. And defense counsel can inform the jury of their absolute right to nullify the law.
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Weed is still illegal in Texas despite it supposedly being America's closest thing to a libertarian ideal. The governor specifically is anti-weed but the biggest guesses as to why Republicans don't want it are:

1) Tobacco and alcohol industry lobbying (probably the biggest reason)
2) It does still play to the Christian base (not sure if there is polling on this)
3) boomers?

You know, I really do wonder what the tobacco lobby is afraid of. Have you ever in your life seen anyone smoke a cigarette just because they dont have any weed? It would be like the milk lobby putting pressure to make alcohol illegal.
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red sox 777 posted...

New Hampshire does all of that and doesn't require people to wear seat belts or buy car insurance. And defense counsel can inform the jury of their absolute right to nullify the law.

Yeah but Texas is redder. More red = more party of small government.

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Jakyl25 posted...

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Weed is still illegal in Texas despite it supposedly being America's closest thing to a libertarian ideal. The governor specifically is anti-weed but the biggest guesses as to why Republicans don't want it are:

1) Tobacco and alcohol industry lobbying (probably the biggest reason)
2) It does still play to the Christian base (not sure if there is polling on this)
3) boomers?

You know, I really do wonder what the tobacco lobby is afraid of. Have you ever in your life seen anyone smoke a cigarette just because they dont have any weed? It would be like the milk lobby putting pressure to make alcohol illegal.

It's more like why casinos put in a lot of efforts to stop card counters at blackjack grinding out an hourly expected profit of $50. That surveillance operation is going to have increased costs by way more than the money they lose to card counters. But if you don't have the countermeasures instead of having a few card counters making $50 an hour you are going to have many card counters playing high stakes and winning thousands of dollars an hour.

There are a lot of people who smoke (and drink alcohol) because they are the 2 drugs that are legal and socially acceptable. If marijuana is legalized the tobacco industry stands to lose a lot of law-abiding citizens.
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Man they really slipped up spending so much time monitoring marijuana and not monitoring vaping then
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

red sox 777 posted...

New Hampshire does all of that and doesn't require people to wear seat belts or buy car insurance. And defense counsel can inform the jury of their absolute right to nullify the law.

Yeah but Texas is redder. More red = more party of small government.

Oh yeah? From 1856 to 1908 New Hampshire voted Republican 14 times out of 14. Texas voted for the Democrats (or the Confederate equivalent) 14 times out of 14.

Free Soil, Free Labor, Free Speech, Free Men, Fremont and Victory!
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red sox 777 posted...

It's more like why casinos put in a lot of efforts to stop card counters at blackjack grinding out an hourly expected profit of $50. That surveillance operation is going to have increased costs by way more than the money they lose to card counters. But if you don't have the countermeasures instead of having a few card counters making $50 an hour you are going to have many card counters playing high stakes and winning thousands of dollars an hour.

Casinos do not bat an eye if you are playing for $50 an hour. At that point you not losing money is a draw to make other players that are playing at higher stakes sit at the table and throw their money away.

I've never seen them act until players start putting black chips on the table.
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red13n posted...

red sox 777 posted...

It's more like why casinos put in a lot of efforts to stop card counters at blackjack grinding out an hourly expected profit of $50. That surveillance operation is going to have increased costs by way more than the money they lose to card counters. But if you don't have the countermeasures instead of having a few card counters making $50 an hour you are going to have many card counters playing high stakes and winning thousands of dollars an hour.

Casinos do not bat an eye if you are playing for $50 an hour. At that point you not losing money is a draw to make other players that are playing at higher stakes sit at the table and throw their money away.

I've never seen them act until players start putting black chips on the table.

You need to be playing $100+ a hand to be winning $50 an hour on average. The house edge on a $100 bet is like 19 cents for a good game.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Man they really slipped up spending so much time monitoring marijuana and not monitoring vaping then

Vaping is literally owned by the big tobacco companies, isn't it?

Jakyl25 posted...

You know, I really do wonder what the tobacco lobby is afraid of. Have you ever in your life seen anyone smoke a cigarette just because they dont have any weed?

yes, actually

not often and it was weird
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