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Medzzz
10/15/19 1:11:18 PM
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I use to but no longer because of the Mandela effect
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LadyVyxx
10/15/19 1:13:41 PM
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Antifar posted...
"Was I wrong? No, it must be some sort of alternate dimension thing."
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I Like Toast
10/15/19 1:17:28 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
How are there so many people that believe in this?
Because there are people that understand what the Mandela effect and then there are people who think it has anything to do with explaining why. Guess which group you fall in.

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Medzzz
10/15/19 1:22:16 PM
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just admit you were wrong
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I Like Toast
10/15/19 1:25:02 PM
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Medzzz posted...
just admit you were wrong
What so you think the word false means in shared false memory?

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gguirao
10/15/19 1:26:06 PM
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No.
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thanosibe
10/15/19 1:26:16 PM
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What's with the Sinbad/Shazam thing? Like I wonder where it came from because it's so bizarre. And I watched Sinbad's stand ups and movies over the years and do not have this recollection. But apparently it the most common one according to the link posted.

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LordRazziel
10/15/19 1:28:19 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
LordRazziel posted...
How are there so many people that believe in this?
Because there are people that understand what the Mandela effect and then there are people who think it has anything to do with explaining why. Guess which group you fall in.

Mandela EffectEdit
In 2010, this shared false memory phenomenon was dubbed the "Mandela Effect" by self-described "paranormal consultant" Fiona Broome, in reference to a false memory she reported of the death of South African leader Nelson Mandela in the 1980s (who was at the time still alive), which she claimed was shared by "perhaps thousands" of other people.[34][35][36] Other such examples include memories of the Berenstain Bears' name previously being spelled as Berenstein,[37][38] and of a 1990s movie Shazaam, starring comedian Sinbad as a genie.[32]

Pseudoscience commentators such as Broome have speculated about alternate realities as an explanation for such shared false memories. However, most science researchers and commentators suggest that these are instead examples of false memories shaped by similar cognitive factors affecting multiple people,[39][40][41][38][42][43] such as social and cognitive reinforcement of incorrect memories[44][45] or false news reports and misleading photographs that influence the formation of memories based on them.[46][45][47] For example, the false memories of Shazaam have been explained as a conflation of memories of the comedian wearing a genie costume during a TV presentation of Sinbad the Sailor movies in 1994,[48] and a similarly named 1996 film, Kazaam, featuring a genie played by Shaquille O'Neal.[32]

The Effect is an explanation to false memories.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory

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Soggy_Pocket
10/15/19 1:29:26 PM
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thanosibe posted...
What's with the Sinbad/Shazam thing? Like I wonder where it came from because it's so bizarre. And I watched Sinbad's stand ups and movies over the years and do not have this recollection. But apparently it the most common one according to the link posted.


It was probably a commercial or something, but this is also a time when golden baggy pants were popular and could have been associated with him being a genie. Aladin came out around the same time as I remember the Sinbad thing so who knows.
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Ultima Dragon
10/15/19 1:33:52 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
I still can't figure out how the logo on the left is exactly like I pictured it, with the cornucopia going in the same direction and everything. Is there another fruit logo with a cornucopia?

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/entertainment/g28438966/mandela-effect-examples/?slide=15


Yeah, the ones where something is completely absent and was never there are the weirdest of all. The Fruit of the Loom logo is probably the only reason I even know the word "cornucopia," lol. Ones where there's a slight spelling difference or font change or something are kind of lame and not worthy of mention.

Ed McMahon never being the spokesperson for Publisher's Clearing House and PCH never even having a spokesperson is a weird one too. Again, plenty of people misquote stuff like "Luke, I am your father" in various forms of media. But there's also various references to people hoping Ed McMahon shows up to their house with the big cheque or whatever, and that's bizarre for so many people to remember something that was never even real to begin with.

Don't really believe or disbelieve, but I suppose anything's possible with how little we truly know about the nature of the universe.
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thanosibe
10/15/19 1:36:36 PM
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Soggy_Pocket posted...
It was probably a commercial or something, but this is also a time when golden baggy pants were popular and could have been associated with him being a genie. Aladin came out around the same time as I remember the Sinbad thing so who knows.
Huh. I can see some others like Looney Tunes, Flintstones, FOL, Oreos, Kit Kat and Fruit Loops just being incorrect memories voiced by enough people that people started believing it. Like tell a lie enough and people will start to believe it. But this one is just out of left field.

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I Like Toast
10/15/19 1:38:20 PM
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LordRazziel posted...


The Effect is an explanation to false memories
Its not, its about shared false memories. Which if you bothered reading anything that you quoted you'd have realized.

The Mandela effect is aboutthe effect it has nothing to do with cause. Sounds like you need to learn to admit you're wrong.
LordRazziel posted...
Mandela EffectEdit
In 2010, this shared false memory phenomenon was dubbed the "Mandela Effect" by self-described "paranormal consultant" Fiona Broome, in reference to a false memory she reported of the death of South African leader Nelson Mandela in the 1980s (who was at the time still alive), which she claimed was shared by "perhaps thousands" of other people.[34][35][36] Other such examples include memories of the Berenstain Bears' name previously being spelled as Berenstein,[37][38] and of a 1990s movie Shazaam, starring comedian Sinbad as a genie.[32]

Pseudoscience commentators such as Broome have speculated about alternate realities as an explanation for such shared false memories. However, most science researchers and commentators suggest that these are instead examples of false memories shaped by similar cognitive factors affecting multiple people,[39][40][41][38][42][43] such as social and cognitive reinforcement of incorrect memories[44][45] or false news reports and misleading photographs that influence the formation of memories based on them.[46][45][47] For example, the false memories of Shazaam have been explained as a conflation of memories of the comedian wearing a genie costume during a TV presentation of Sinbad the Sailor movies in 1994,[48] and a similarly named 1996 film, Kazaam, featuring a genie played by Shaquille O'Neal.[32]

The Effect is an explanation to false memories.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory



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Soggy_Pocket
10/15/19 1:42:13 PM
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The Sinbad Genie is how I learned about the Mandela Effect. I had a random thought about Sinbad and looked it up on IMDB and couldn't find it, then Googled it found several people remembering the same movie that never existed. It's just strange is all.
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ChrisTaka
10/15/19 1:44:04 PM
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I think that with enough patience we'll reach a timeline where God is a truck driver.
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EndOfDiscOne
10/15/19 1:45:43 PM
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With Sinbad, I wondered if we were combining it with the cartoon movie. The attire is similar to Aladdin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinbad:_Legend_of_the_Seven_Seas

But that's from 2003, and I feel like my Sinbad Genie memory dates back to the mid-late 90s when I first learned who he was.

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EvenSpoonier
10/15/19 1:48:05 PM
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My parents always pronounced the bears' name "steen", and so I started pronouncing it that way as a child too. I think it was in like first or second grade that I noticed the A, and I thought it was strange back then too. Didn't learn about the Mandela Effect per se until many years later, though.
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LordRazziel
10/15/19 1:56:25 PM
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Read the next paragraph.
That's all under the Mandela Effect, which is under false memory. It's psuedoscience started by a paranormal consultant.
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thanosibe
10/15/19 2:02:16 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
With Sinbad, I wondered if we were combining it with the cartoon movie. The attire is similar to Aladdin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinbad:_Legend_of_the_Seven_Seas

But that's from 2003, and I feel like my Sinbad Genie memory dates back to the mid-late 90s when I first learned who he was.
Sinbad was also a series sword and sandal films from the 50s about Sinbad the pirate a Middle Eastern character of legend that could been seen as similar to a genie. In fact The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad had a genie in it. But how Sinbad the comedian/actor got associated with genies is really bizarre.

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Dyinglegacy
10/15/19 2:04:29 PM
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It would be awesome if we're real, but prolly not.

Alternate realities and timelines would be rad af

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ultimate reaver
10/15/19 2:12:08 PM
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I feel like people confuse sindbad for being in a genie movie because sinbad is also a character from Thousand and One Nights so their brain automatically goes to genies

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Storm101
10/15/19 2:34:14 PM
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I used to think a cornucopia was called a "loom" as a kid. Apparently the cornucopia is supposed to be common Thanksgiving imagery or something but I could swear I had never even seen it outside of that logo until I learned about the Mandela Effect. I'm not alone either, so the fact that so many people remember this is truly bizarre.
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UnholyMudcrab
10/15/19 2:53:33 PM
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Storm101 posted...
I used to think a cornucopia was called a "loom" as a kid. Apparently the cornucopia is supposed to be common Thanksgiving imagery or something but I could swear I had never even seen it outside of that logo until I learned about the Mandela Effect. I'm not alone either, so the fact that so many people remember this is truly bizarre.

There is fruit in the cornucopia
A loom was a tool used to spin fabrics

The logo is a play on words, and pulling the Mandela effect card on this is just an attempt to mask your own ignorance of what those words meant.
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Storm101
10/15/19 3:05:37 PM
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I didn't say I believe in parallel universes or whatever or that I still have ignorance of those things so no need to say that lol. Just the fact that it's one of the most common false memories there is and many other people claim to have never seen a cornucopia outside of it (even though logically we did somewhere).
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Zack_Attackv1
10/15/19 3:08:15 PM
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The Mandela effect is one of the most uncreative "phenomena" ever conceived.
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MC_BatCommander
10/15/19 3:09:08 PM
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No, especially its namesake. You'd have to be a whole special kind of ignorant to believe Mandela died in prison
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Panthera
10/15/19 3:15:49 PM
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No, I believe people are just too stubborn to admit that they didn't correctly remember the fact that they remembered things incorrectly in the past
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Leanaunfurled
10/15/19 3:17:37 PM
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I believe there can be a mass misconception, but I don't believe those memories came from a different timeline.
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StealthRock
10/15/19 3:36:41 PM
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Soggy_Pocket posted...
Looney Tunes because it was called Merry Melodies or something before that.

The Sinbad Genie movie always messes with me because I swear he was in some kind of genie movie, and that so many other people also remember it is strange.

People swear they remember it but can never describe a scene from said movie
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d_parker
10/15/19 3:44:08 PM
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Faulty memory and nothing else.

But I'd watch that movie on the SyFy channel.
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Big_Gold
10/15/19 4:06:45 PM
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Funkydog
10/15/19 4:09:01 PM
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I believe people misremember things at least.
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Hotel_Security
10/15/19 4:09:42 PM
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The phenomenon where multiple people remember something that didn't actually occur.

People do this with politics on a regular basis so, yes, I do. Wishful thinking and confirmation bias will make people believe a lot of things that didn't happen.
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JE19426
10/15/19 4:17:07 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
Read the next paragraph.
That's all under the Mandela Effect, which is under false memory. It's psuedoscience started by a paranormal consultant.


I read the entire section and no where does it claim that the Mandela effect is the alternate realities explanation. It in fact very clearly states that the Mandela effect refers to shared false memory phenomenon.
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Lost_All_Senses
10/15/19 4:18:38 PM
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No, people just don't like to admit their memories are wrong.
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Philip027
10/15/19 4:19:44 PM
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Am I the only one that could have sworn they already answered a poll question like this just the other day?
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Caution998
10/15/19 4:35:21 PM
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Philip027 posted...
Am I the only one that could have sworn they already answered a poll question like this just the other day?


That was in a parallel universe. Try and keep up, man.
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DevsBro
10/15/19 6:02:17 PM
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BB mofo posted...
It's been said we hallucinate the world based on the raw data we get from our senses. This is why you can have dreams that are indistinguishable from "reality."

It's also why you can see something out of the corner of your eye or in the dark and think it's something completely different.
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Pancake
10/15/19 6:02:27 PM
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I Like Toast
10/15/19 7:04:26 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
Read the next paragraph.
That's all under the Mandela Effect, which is under false memory. It's psuedoscience started by a paranormal consultant.
The next paragraph that covers multiple possibilities, because the Mandela effect has nothing to do why. It is only about shared false memories.

Its okay, you must have learned it in another reality , wouldn't want to admit you're wrong now.

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LordRazziel
10/15/19 7:22:38 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Read the next paragraph.
That's all under the Mandela Effect, which is under false memory. It's psuedoscience started by a paranormal consultant.
The next paragraph that covers multiple possibilities, because the Mandela effect has nothing to do why. It is only about shared false memories.

Its okay, you must have learned it in another. reality , wouldn't want to admit you're wrong now.

The Mandela Effect is pseudoscience. It's a subsection of false memories. False memories and the Mandela Effect are not interchangeable.
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FL81
10/15/19 7:38:58 PM
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ChrisTaka posted...
Do you believe in the Mandela effect?

What do you mean? Obviously there's a society-induced mass sharing of false memories, but I don't believe any of the alternate universes mumbo-jumbo to come out of this.
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ccidz
10/15/19 7:55:45 PM
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Not really. It's a theory that doesn't present me with any evidence other than people remembering something one way and it's actually something else.
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-Cipher-
10/15/19 8:01:48 PM
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why wouldn't i believe in false memory when so many people exhibit it
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Nth
10/15/19 9:39:34 PM
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Yes, I've experienced it several times myself.
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JE19426
10/16/19 2:31:39 AM
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LordRazziel posted...
The Mandela Effect is pseudoscience.


Let's see your source for that please.

It's a subsection of false memories.


Correct, specifically it's the false memories multiple people share, for seemingly no reason.

False memories and the Mandela Effect are not interchangeable.


You are correct, false memories can refer to false memories that one person has or that many people have, while the madela effect only refers to the latter.
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ChrisTaka
10/16/19 8:04:49 AM
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Bumpers
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I Like Toast
10/16/19 8:19:07 AM
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LordRazziel posted...


The Mandela Effect is pseudoscience
false
LordRazziel posted...
False memories and the Mandela Effect are not interchangeable.
Correct, because it's about shared false memories. That's it. Why is not apart of it, that's why your source covers multiple possibilities. One from not a scientist, some from scientist, and others. All in disagreement with each other.

Your one of those people who unironically says gravity is just a theory because you don't understand the difference between the law of gravity (it exist, it pulls, it's constant) and the theory of gravity (how it works).

But it's okay, you wouldn't want to admit your wrong, even though your own 'source' shows it. Must just be you learned about the mandela effect in another reality

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Awesome
10/16/19 8:19:56 AM
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kit kat had a dash
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ChrisTaka
10/16/19 8:24:05 AM
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My IQ isn't high enough for this topic anymore rip
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