Current Events > It's much harder being a guy

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Stallion_Prime posted...

Men pretty much do have it harder just because there much higher expectations for us, but lets not pretend women dont have it tough too. Thats just ignorant

I know right. I hate having to spend an hour putting on make up and nice clothes so Im not judged by all of society the moment I step out the door....oh wait. Also working harder so that I might get picked for a job position over the guy that takes long breaks but makes sexist jokes with the boss to make up for it.
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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Stallion_Prime posted...

Men pretty much do have it harder just because there much higher expectations for us, but lets not pretend women dont have it tough too. Thats just ignorant

I know right. I hate having to spend an hour putting on make up and nice clothes so Im not judged by all of society the moment I step out the door....oh wait. Also working harder so that I might get picked for a job position over the guy that takes long breaks but makes sexist jokes with the boss to make up for it.

BRO just don't do that stuff tbh
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DocileOrangeCup posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

Stallion_Prime posted...

Men pretty much do have it harder just because there much higher expectations for us, but lets not pretend women dont have it tough too. Thats just ignorant

I know right. I hate having to spend an hour putting on make up and nice clothes so Im not judged by all of society the moment I step out the door....oh wait. Also working harder so that I might get picked for a job position over the guy that takes long breaks but makes sexist jokes with the boss to make up for it.

BRO just don't do that stuff tbh

Gotta, the Kardashians fucked us all over.

*Saws basketball in half and shoves the halves down the back of my pants*
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Wearing makeup and fashion is stuff you have to do to be hot.

Whereas a guy who isn't hot just isn't hot, and can't do anything about it.
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Febrel posted...

Wearing makeup and fasion is stuff you have to do to be hot.

Whereas a guy who isn't hot just isn't hot, and can't do anything about it.

He can use the time women use on make up to learn an instrument or earn money. Both sides are attracted to shallow things.
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Febrel posted...

Wearing makeup and fashion is stuff you have to do to be hot.

Whereas a guy who isn't hot just isn't hot, and can't do anything about it.

They definitely can. Being in shape and dressing decently goes quite a long way for a guy
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It's hard being a human being, period.

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Cleo_II posted...

Shuto-uke posted...

Not gonna lie, I am quite taken aback by her behavior here.

I've always been nice to her, and if anything I took a "both sides" approach here. I also brought up that she has good points when others criticized her.

In response she lashed at me and is treating me as if I had said period and kitchen jokes at her or something. So I responded with niceness and... she got nastier. I am scratching my head trying to understand it, but it makes 0 sense.

Shuto-uke posted...

Yeah that sound about right.

And if I dished back at her with 1/10th of the hostility and bitterness she lashed at me she'd weep and then most of CE would treat me like a soul less, cowardly villain. And actually, that proves TC has a point, lol, thanks cleo ^_^

LOL I missed these. Pure gold. Imagine thinking some rando on the internet can make me weep. Meanwhile you have been complaining nonstop about me being such a meanie to you :(

You are exactly what is meant by fake nice guys. Pretends to be nice but meanwhile is just low key passive aggressive and feels entitled to a reward for being so nice

Do you even know what the "nice guy" meme is? Someone who fakes being nice to get into someone else's pants. Now you're implying I want to get into your pants? Get over yourself.

If by reward you mean not being an ass to me, then yes, I expected a reward. I expect that reward from anyone, man, woman, old, young, pretty, ugly, smart, dumb. If I act in a civilized manner I expect civilized back. It's not too much to ask.

Have fun pretending men drool at the very thought of you 24/7 and assuming everything they do is with an ulterior motive, that will get you FAR in life, lmao.

Don't you forget you came into this topic calling the people ITT defeatists and some shit like that, and them you started calling me "knight in shining armor" too, you had made your mind about this before you even entered the topic. If I had kept taking your abuse I'd have gone from "knight in shining armor" to "fake nice guy" to "emotional manipulator" and another dozen feminist buzzwords, you were pretty much playing the donkey tail game.

I am starting to get the vibe you don't understand mainstream culture. You're not supposed to be antagonistic to people out of nowhere. And people with manners expect the same courtesy, it's not some sick sexual game.

wait, didn't you make a topic about flirting with some young dude at a hotel bar, while being married? WTF LOL.

vigorm0rtis posted...

It's hard being a human being, period.

This is true. We make it much harder on ourselves, and it's unecessary.

Shuto-uke posted...

vigorm0rtis posted...

It's hard being a human being, period.

This is true. We make it much harder on ourselves, and it's unecessary.

Now this topic is getting real.
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Shuto-uke posted...

Do you even know what the "nice guy" meme is? Someone who fakes being nice to get into someone else's pants. Now you're implying I want to get into your pants? Get over yourself.

If by reward you mean not being an ass to me, then yes, I expected a reward. I expect that reward from anyone, man, woman, old, young, pretty, ugly, smart, dumb. If I act in a civilized manner I expect civilized back. It's not too much to ask.

Have fun pretending men drool at the very thought of you 24/7 and assuming everything they do is with an ulterior motive, that will get you FAR in life, lmao.

Don't you forget you came into this topic calling the people ITT defeatists and some shit like that, and them you started calling me "knight in shining armor" too, you had made your mind about this before you even entered the topic. If I had kept taking your abuse I'd have gone from "knight in shining armor" to "fake nice guy" to "emotional manipulator" and another dozen feminist buzzwords, you were pretty much playing the donkey tail game.

I am starting to get the vibe you don't understand mainstream culture. You're not supposed to be antagonistic to people out of nowhere. And people with manners expect the same courtesy, it's not some sick sexual game.

wait, didn't you make a topic about flirting with some young dude at a hotel bar, while being married? WTF LOL.

Soooo much angst over a random girl on a message board

You are the one who got butthurt that I asked you to show me where I had said certain things you accused me of saying. And then brought up how you defended me as some kind of reason that makes it ok to put words in my mouth, misconstrue my posts and act like I owed you for it somehow. And now have spent the entire topic bitching about it and making references to my gender and my personal life while claiming youve been oh so respectful

Yup, got ourselves a Mr Nice Guy here

Cleo_II posted...

Shuto-uke posted...

Do you even know what the "nice guy" meme is? Someone who fakes being nice to get into someone else's pants. Now you're implying I want to get into your pants? Get over yourself.

If by reward you mean not being an ass to me, then yes, I expected a reward. I expect that reward from anyone, man, woman, old, young, pretty, ugly, smart, dumb. If I act in a civilized manner I expect civilized back. It's not too much to ask.

Have fun pretending men drool at the very thought of you 24/7 and assuming everything they do is with an ulterior motive, that will get you FAR in life, lmao.

Don't you forget you came into this topic calling the people ITT defeatists and some shit like that, and them you started calling me "knight in shining armor" too, you had made your mind about this before you even entered the topic. If I had kept taking your abuse I'd have gone from "knight in shining armor" to "fake nice guy" to "emotional manipulator" and another dozen feminist buzzwords, you were pretty much playing the donkey tail game.

I am starting to get the vibe you don't understand mainstream culture. You're not supposed to be antagonistic to people out of nowhere. And people with manners expect the same courtesy, it's not some sick sexual game.

wait, didn't you make a topic about flirting with some young dude at a hotel bar, while being married? WTF LOL.

Soooo much angst over a random girl on a message board

You are the one who got butthurt that I asked you to show me where I had said certain things you accused me of saying. And then brought up how you defended me as some kind of reason that makes it ok to put words in my mouth, misconstrue my posts and act like I owed you for it somehow. And now have spent the entire topic bitching about it and making references to my gender and my personal life while claiming youve been oh so respectful

Yup, got ourselves a Mr Nice Guy here

Yeah, THE ENTIRE TOPIC, huh? More like, my last post, you know, after you suggested I was faking being nice to get in your pants or whatever fantasy you played out in your head.

See, you can dish it out but you can't take it. Why are you being so hostile to me, anyway? You clearly started

Cleo_II posted...

Shuto-uke posted...

Do you even know what the "nice guy" meme is? Someone who fakes being nice to get into someone else's pants. Now you're implying I want to get into your pants? Get over yourself.

If by reward you mean not being an ass to me, then yes, I expected a reward. I expect that reward from anyone, man, woman, old, young, pretty, ugly, smart, dumb. If I act in a civilized manner I expect civilized back. It's not too much to ask.

Have fun pretending men drool at the very thought of you 24/7 and assuming everything they do is with an ulterior motive, that will get you FAR in life, lmao.

Don't you forget you came into this topic calling the people ITT defeatists and some shit like that, and them you started calling me "knight in shining armor" too, you had made your mind about this before you even entered the topic. If I had kept taking your abuse I'd have gone from "knight in shining armor" to "fake nice guy" to "emotional manipulator" and another dozen feminist buzzwords, you were pretty much playing the donkey tail game.

I am starting to get the vibe you don't understand mainstream culture. You're not supposed to be antagonistic to people out of nowhere. And people with manners expect the same courtesy, it's not some sick sexual game.

wait, didn't you make a topic about flirting with some young dude at a hotel bar, while being married? WTF LOL.

Soooo much angst over a random girl on a message board

You are the one who got butthurt that I asked you to show me where I had said certain things you accused me of saying. And then brought up how you defended me as some kind of reason that makes it ok to put words in my mouth, misconstrue my posts and act like I owed you for it somehow. And now have spent the entire topic bitching about it and making references to my gender and my personal life while claiming youve been oh so respectful

Yup, got ourselves a Mr Nice Guy here

Fwiw you're responding to ROD, who's one of the biggest incels here
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AwesomeToTheMAX posted...

Cleo_II posted...

Shuto-uke posted...

Do you even know what the "nice guy" meme is? Someone who fakes being nice to get into someone else's pants. Now you're implying I want to get into your pants? Get over yourself.

If by reward you mean not being an ass to me, then yes, I expected a reward. I expect that reward from anyone, man, woman, old, young, pretty, ugly, smart, dumb. If I act in a civilized manner I expect civilized back. It's not too much to ask.

Have fun pretending men drool at the very thought of you 24/7 and assuming everything they do is with an ulterior motive, that will get you FAR in life, lmao.

Don't you forget you came into this topic calling the people ITT defeatists and some shit like that, and them you started calling me "knight in shining armor" too, you had made your mind about this before you even entered the topic. If I had kept taking your abuse I'd have gone from "knight in shining armor" to "fake nice guy" to "emotional manipulator" and another dozen feminist buzzwords, you were pretty much playing the donkey tail game.

I am starting to get the vibe you don't understand mainstream culture. You're not supposed to be antagonistic to people out of nowhere. And people with manners expect the same courtesy, it's not some sick sexual game.

wait, didn't you make a topic about flirting with some young dude at a hotel bar, while being married? WTF LOL.

Soooo much angst over a random girl on a message board

You are the one who got butthurt that I asked you to show me where I had said certain things you accused me of saying. And then brought up how you defended me as some kind of reason that makes it ok to put words in my mouth, misconstrue my posts and act like I owed you for it somehow. And now have spent the entire topic bitching about it and making references to my gender and my personal life while claiming youve been oh so respectful

Yup, got ourselves a Mr Nice Guy here

Fwiw you're responding to ROD, who's one of the biggest incels here

> not rod
> not an incel

will she call you a white knight that wants to get into her pants too? Nah, you know why? Because you're submissive to her.

Shuto-uke posted...

Yeah, THE ENTIRE TOPIC, huh? More like, my last post, you know, after you suggested I was faking being nice to get in your pants or whatever fantasy you played out in your head.

See, you can dish it out but you can't take it. Why are you being so hostile to me, anyway? You clearly started

I can take it just fine. Im not the one having a meltie

And I find it funny that I never implied you were trying to get in my pants and yet you keep bringing it up. Whose fantasy is that exactly?

Why is this topic still getting posts
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

Why is this topic still getting posts

ROD melty
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Cleo_II posted...

Shuto-uke posted...

Yeah, THE ENTIRE TOPIC, huh? More like, my last post, you know, after you suggested I was faking being nice to get in your pants or whatever fantasy you played out in your head.

See, you can dish it out but you can't take it. Why are you being so hostile to me, anyway? You clearly started

I can take it just fine. Im not the one having a meltie

And I find it funny that I never implied you were trying to get in my pants and yet you keep bringing it up. Whose fantasy is that exactly?

You literally called me knight in a shining armor and "nice guy". That's the whole thing about those 2, especially the latter.

why don't we both back off? I can ignore your past offenses and hostility and you can ignore my reaction to your past offenses and hostility and just go on as if it never happened?

AwesomeToTheMAX posted...

Fwiw you're responding to ROD, who's one of the biggest incels here

Thanks, I never pay too much attention to alts and stuff. It all makes sense now lol

Lol, he blocked me
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Dating apps are probably the biggest factor in the bitterness going on between men and women. It gives a large number of women unrealistic standards and inflates their egos, while simultaneously crushing the egos of the vast majority of men, many who would be happy to even get a scrap off the table.

The female average 5 on a dating website will often think she's an 8 or a 9 due to all the thirsty messages pouring in. She'll get pumped and dumped by a bunch of Chads and start complaining that all men are pigs. There are a plethora of guys that would actually be a good match for her, but she hasn't even given them a chance because she has a buffet of choices and it's literally impossible to try every single one of them out. She's dating up, which is understandable, who wouldn't want to? The problem is she's rejecting the guys that are actually in her league because she has a distorted sense of her actual sexual market value.

The male average 5 on a dating website will think he's a zero because it's a goddamned miracle if he can even secure a date. When he finally does, the chick is often times expecting a free meal out of him. He doesn't want to look cheap, so he ends up getting taken advantage of by a woman who had zero interest in him in the first place. Now he starts thinking women are shallow opportunists and decides it isn't worth the effort and drops out entirely.

This ends up bleeding over into the real world because everyone is so busy these days it's hard to meet new people. Everyone is on their phones, working their asses off, or doing their own thing so it's super hard to meet people outside of work or community spaces. Single people resort to the dating apps, get jaded, and the vicious cycle continues.

I think a lot of men just want to be validated. The media paints them as toxic just for being who they are. A lot of them have done everything that they were taught to and they get shit on for it. Chivalry didn't get them the girl. Hard work didn't pay off. They were told to be X, Y, and Z, they did it, got nothing in return, and then he gets insulted for pointing out that the world gave him a raw deal.

I'm not going to act like I understand women's issues. Yeah, it must suck to be harassed by weirdos, or be afraid to walk alone at night, I get that. But I don't get the complaints about pay gaps or lacks of opportunity in the work place. I've worked in all sorts of jobs where the females were in senior management positions. A senior position opened up at one of my jobs and the woman with seniority over me got offered the position over me. We were the only two choices. She deserved it, she didn't get skipped over. It was totally fair.

But you know what? She was a career woman. She had no kids. She worked her ass off. We were treated fairly and equally. Maybe it's because I live in a liberal state or something, but I've never seen what everyone seems to be complaining about firsthand. I just don't get why equality of outcome is more important to people than having the best, most qualified people to do the job.

DDirtyDastard posted...

But you know what? She was a career woman. She had no kids. She worked her ass off.

Yeah, this is one of my points.

More than a wage gap it's a life choices gap