Current Events > tbh, the theory of evolution sounds dumb when you really think about it

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The idea that if you crash a truck holding a cake's ingredients billions of times, it will somehow randomly create a perfect cake. That just makes no sense.

And trucks didn't even exist when Darwin was alive, so checkmate.
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Another_Voice posted...

The idea that if you crash a truck holding a cake's ingredients billions of times, it will somehow randomly create a perfect cake. That just makes no sense.

Because that's how the theory of evolution works.
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Another_Voice posted...

The idea that if you crash a truck holding a cake's ingredients billions of times, it will somehow randomly create a perfect cake. That just makes no sense.

Is this a real thing that they teach in the bible belt?
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When you can't tell if a post is a bad parody or just a result of bad education.
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sounds like you don't understand evolution if that's your interpretation of it
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It's not random. The mutations are random, but the impact of the mutation on reproductive success rate is not random.
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Yeah the idea of Adam, Eve, their sons, and later Noah and his family in incestuous relationships with each other is a much better origin story.
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how can evolution be real if i flipped a coin 500 times and not once did it evolve into a 3 sided object.
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K181 posted...

When you can't tell if a post is a bad parody or just a result of bad education.

ThyCorndog posted...

sounds like you don't understand evolution if that's your interpretation of it

Gobstoppers12 posted...

It's not random. The mutations are random, but the impact of the mutation on reproductive success rate is not random.

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Another_Voice posted...

The idea that if you crash a truck holding a cake's ingredients billions of times, it will somehow randomly create a perfect cake. That just makes no sense.

I believe you meant to say that the straw man misrepresentation of evolution used by religious fundamentalists sounds dumb when you think about it.


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Strider102 posted...

Yeah the idea of Adam, Eve, their sons, and later Noah and his family in incestuous relationships with each other is a much better origin story.

at least it's something I can fap to
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Guide posted...

Is this a real thing that they teach in the bible belt?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504" data-time="


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Gobstoppers12 posted...

It's not random. The mutations are random, but the impact of the mutation on reproductive success rate is not random.

Pretty much.

Lets say some horses were born with a horn.

Now those horses had a predator that more often then not could outrun them. The horses with the horn are more likely to succesfully defend themselves when cornered and thus most of them survive to breed.

Eventually most horses in the area after many generations have horns.


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Another_Voice posted...

The idea that if you crash a truck holding a cake's ingredients billions of times, it will somehow randomly create a perfect cake. That just makes no sense.

God bless the poor soul who takes the time to unpack this shit.

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Gobstoppers12 posted...

It's not random. The mutations are random, but the impact of the mutation on reproductive success rate is not random.

I saw the neatest java applet, way back when people actually made applets, of psuedorandomly generated "creatures" that had only simple instructions to "eat" randomly generated dots of "food". They had no ability to detect food, died within 2? minutes of not eating, and reproduced at 4? minutes, and there was never enough food that all of them could possibly survive. Each time they reproduced, there was a random mutation put in that affected size, and limbs.

This is a topdown perspective of featureless 2d environment, for clarification. The creatures all had a single oblong body, and anywhere from 0-3 flagellum.

I ran it several times, and the end result was always sperm-shaped creatures dominating the void.

That shit adjusted my brain. I wish I could find it.
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Trolls are getting lazier.
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Hexenherz posted...

Strider102 posted...

Yeah the idea of Adam, Eve, their sons, and later Noah and his family in incestuous relationships with each other is a much better origin story.

at least it's something I can fap to

I...

>_>

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True.
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^ lol
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DarkRoast posted...

All the proof I need. Fuck evolution!
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Strider102 posted...

Hexenherz posted...

Strider102 posted...

Yeah the idea of Adam, Eve, their sons, and later Noah and his family in incestuous relationships with each other is a much better origin story.

at least it's something I can fap to

I...

>_>

<_<

True.

To be fair, geneticists do think we hit a sort of genetic bottleneck way in the past, where most of the human ancestor population died out, so we are probably from a whole bunch of incest, and are lucky that enough mutation was involved so that we didn't die from sheer inbred lack of fitness.
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Guide posted...

Strider102 posted...

Hexenherz posted...

Strider102 posted...

Yeah the idea of Adam, Eve, their sons, and later Noah and his family in incestuous relationships with each other is a much better origin story.

at least it's something I can fap to

I...

>_>

<_<

True.

To be fair, geneticists do think we hit a sort of genetic bottleneck way in the past, where most of the human ancestor population died out, so we are probably from a whole bunch of incest, and are lucky that enough mutation was involved so that we didn't die from sheer inbred lack of fitness.

all of Europe is descended from like about 100 people that survived a bottleneck event

theres other bottlenecks but I sorta remember that one
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ThyCorndog posted...

Guide posted...

Strider102 posted...

Hexenherz posted...

Strider102 posted...

Yeah the idea of Adam, Eve, their sons, and later Noah and his family in incestuous relationships with each other is a much better origin story.

at least it's something I can fap to

I...

>_>

<_<

True.

To be fair, geneticists do think we hit a sort of genetic bottleneck way in the past, where most of the human ancestor population died out, so we are probably from a whole bunch of incest, and are lucky that enough mutation was involved so that we didn't die from sheer inbred lack of fitness.

all of Europe is descended from like about 100 people that survived a bottleneck event

theres other bottlenecks but I sorta remember that one

Gotta wonder if all the incest in keeping the crown wasn't just for the crown, heh.
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Guide posted...

ThyCorndog posted...

Guide posted...

Strider102 posted...

Hexenherz posted...

Strider102 posted...

Yeah the idea of Adam, Eve, their sons, and later Noah and his family in incestuous relationships with each other is a much better origin story.

at least it's something I can fap to

I...

>_>

<_<

True.

To be fair, geneticists do think we hit a sort of genetic bottleneck way in the past, where most of the human ancestor population died out, so we are probably from a whole bunch of incest, and are lucky that enough mutation was involved so that we didn't die from sheer inbred lack of fitness.

all of Europe is descended from like about 100 people that survived a bottleneck event

theres other bottlenecks but I sorta remember that one

Gotta wonder if all the incest in keeping the crown wasn't just for the crown, heh.

I mean this was before or during the ice age lol
but yeah
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ThyCorndog posted...

Guide posted...

ThyCorndog posted...

Guide posted...

Strider102 posted...

Hexenherz posted...

Strider102 posted...

Yeah the idea of Adam, Eve, their sons, and later Noah and his family in incestuous relationships with each other is a much better origin story.

at least it's something I can fap to

I...

>_>

<_<

True.

To be fair, geneticists do think we hit a sort of genetic bottleneck way in the past, where most of the human ancestor population died out, so we are probably from a whole bunch of incest, and are lucky that enough mutation was involved so that we didn't die from sheer inbred lack of fitness.

all of Europe is descended from like about 100 people that survived a bottleneck event

theres other bottlenecks but I sorta remember that one

Gotta wonder if all the incest in keeping the crown wasn't just for the crown, heh.

I mean this was before or during the ice age lol
but yeah

No yeah, I mean like, what if the bottleneck caused a predisposition for incest?
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I don't know if I like where this topic is going.
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It's going down. On a cousin.
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Guide posted...

It's going down. On a cousin.

Second cousin.
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Grade A troll imo

started out kinda obvious but the post content is just right to get everyone to respond lmao

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Guide posted...

It's going down. On a cousin.

Second cousin.

That's tmi m8
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Guide posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Guide posted...

It's going down. On a cousin.

Second cousin.

That's tmi m8

Or is it jeim8
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DarkRoast posted...

Guide posted...

Is this a real thing that they teach in the bible belt?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504" data-time="

Holy fuck, how are people this stupid?
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Gobstoppers12 posted...

Guide posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Guide posted...

It's going down. On a cousin.

Second cousin.

That's tmi m8

Or is it jeim8

It's not too l8
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Holy fuck, how are people this stupid?

If you have an entire community of people who deliberately refuse to allow formal education on an issue, you create a unique ignorance echo chamber. One where their overly simplified (and often simply wrong) view of that issue is batted back and forth with juvenile "debates" and "gotcha" statements that literally make no sense to anyone but themselves. No one inside the community knows enough about the issue to point out the logical fallacies of their arguments, and they circle the wagons of extreme skepticism when experts in the field try to jump and and tell them why they're wrong.

The anti-vaxxers are the same way.

The tldr version: They know so little about something that they actually think they're experts.


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DarkRoast posted...

Guide posted...

Is this a real thing that they teach in the bible belt?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504" data-time="

What the fuck

God, it physically hurts.
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How could we have evolved from monkeys if monkeys still exist, hurhur.

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To quote Dunning and Kruger:

People who lack the knowledge or wisdom to perform well are often unaware of this fact. We attribute this lack of awareness to a deficit in metacognitive skill. That is, the same incompetence that leads them to make wrong choices also deprives them of the savvy necessary to recognize competence, be it their own or anyone elses.


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DarkRoast posted...

Guide posted...

Is this a real thing that they teach in the bible belt?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504" data-time="

could you imagine though if your peanut butter evolved to like develop crack cocaine in it so you'd have crack cocaine peanut butter that would be hella dope
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Also

People in the United States do not have a high level of understanding of evolution, and this survey did not measure actual competence. Ive found that the people most likely to declare that they have a thorough knowledge of evolution are the creationistsbut that a brief conversation is always sufficient to discover that all theyve really got is a confused welter of misinformation


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Guide posted...

DarkRoast posted...

Guide posted...

Is this a real thing that they teach in the bible belt?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504" data-time="

What the fuck

God, it physically hurts.

It's all fun and games until one day you open a jar of peanut butter and a lifeform pops out.
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Guide posted...

Strider102 posted...

Hexenherz posted...

Strider102 posted...

Yeah the idea of Adam, Eve, their sons, and later Noah and his family in incestuous relationships with each other is a much better origin story.

at least it's something I can fap to

I...

>_>

<_<

True.

To be fair, geneticists do think we hit a sort of genetic bottleneck way in the past, where most of the human ancestor population died out, so we are probably from a whole bunch of incest, and are lucky that enough mutation was involved so that we didn't die from sheer inbred lack of fitness.

it's simple math, really.

you have 2 parents.
you have 4 grandparents.
you have 8 great grandparents.

and so on.
if we count that far enough back, there's way more people in that line than amount of people that have ever lived, if you assume there's no crossover.
ergo, everyone has a bit of incest somewhere in their family tree. even if we ignore the bottoleneck events.
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ROBANN_88 posted...

it's simple math, really.

you have 2 parents.
you have 4 grandparents.
you have 8 great grandparents.

and so on.
if we count that far enough back, there's way more people in that line than amount of people that have ever lived, if you assume there's no crossover.
ergo, everyone has a bit of incest somewhere in their family tree

Incest is essentially not incest starting from 3rd cousin outward. It's mostly just an immediate / extended family thing. It doesn't matter if people are all technically related to a "genetic Eve" they've drifted so far apart by now they're completely different.

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Guide posted...

No yeah, I mean like, what if the bottleneck caused a predisposition for incest?

nah, europeans weren't/aren't particularly incestuous. incest is usually a class thing, where people want to marry within a class and it often turns out that the only other people worthy of marrying are related to you
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pikachupwnage posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

It's not random. The mutations are random, but the impact of the mutation on reproductive success rate is not random.

Pretty much.

Lets say some horses were born with a horn.

Now those horses had a predator that more often then not could outrun them. The horses with the horn are more likely to succesfully defend themselves when cornered and thus most of them survive to breed.

Eventually most horses in the area after many generations have horns.

the horn is the random part

alot of talk of evolution makes it sound like it was guided

like giraffe ancestors were short and looked up at the tree desiring the fruit

then one day, their wish came true

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/4638587/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/how-did-fins-evolve-feet/

This oxygen scenario, combined with the newfound ability to stick their heads out of the water, may have encouraged the evolution of lungs in fish.

See, this makes it sound like the creature is encouraging what mutation they experience next time.

Their ability to stick their head out of the water somehow made sure the mutation of lungs was bound to happen?