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WastelandCowboy
09/01/19 1:22:21 PM
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http://www.fox4news.com/news/texas/new-texas-laws-illegal-to-send-unsolicited-nude-photos

Posted Aug 30 2019 01:48PM CDT

Updated Aug 30 2019 01:55PM CDT

As states push to criminalize the sharing of intimate photos to get revenge on former sex partners, Texas is teaming with Bumble to crack down on people who send unsolicited nude images on dating apps and elsewhere in cyberspace.

The new Texas law banning so-called cyber flashing comes after state Rep. Morgan Meyer of Dallas collaborated with the Austin-based social and dating application company to shepherd a bill earlier this year.

"They had a number of people who were using the app complaining about the sending of these images and they quickly realized there was no recourse," Meyer said, recalling how Bumble CEO Whitney Wolfe Herd approached him about crafting a measure. "There was nothing that could be done. It wasn't a criminal offense - although it was definitely digital sexual harassment."

The law set to take effect Saturday forbids what is often characterized as technology-enabled sexual harassment. It makes electronic transmission of sexually explicit material a Class C misdemeanor with a fine of up to $500 if the person who received it hasn't given consent.

Meyer said the law targeting unwanted images will apply to text messages, email, dating apps and social media.

A 2017 survey by Pew Research Center found women encounter sexual harassment online at much higher rates than men. The study found 21% of women ages 18 to 29 report being sexually harassed online compared to 9% of men in the same age group. Roughly 53% of those women said someone has sent them explicit images they didn't ask for.

Caroline Ellis Roche, Bumble's chief of staff, said the company plans to take the legislation to the federal level and other states in hopes of enacting it more broadly.

The Cyber Civil Rights Initiative reports that 46 states have laws tackling so-called revenge porn, but almost none combat unsolicited sexually explicit images.

A handful of other states have laws criminalizing the electronic messaging of lewd content, but most of them are linked to the sender's intentions.

Washington, Pennsylvania and New Jersey have laws against cyberstalking, which is defined by intent to harass, said Pam Greenberg, a senior fellow for the National Conference of State Legislatures. In South Carolina, it's illegal to anonymously send any lewd content without the consent of the person receiving it.

Bumble, which bills itself as a feminist dating app where women make the first move, isn't the first dating app company to take on a legislative effort.

Match Group, which owns multiple dating app companies, helped pursue legislation that was passed in California and Vermont, according to its website. The California legislation requires all online dating platforms to post safety tips, and Vermont's requires the platforms to notify users where they engaged with another user who was removed for fraud.

Austin-based attorney J.T. Morris, who specializes in First Amendment cases, said the Texas law will face enforcement difficulties as well as legal challenges for being overly broad and vague.

"It reaches things that arguably could cover images related to medical advice or moms sharing information about breastfeeding or their babies' health - things like that which certainly can't be criminalized," Morris said.

Roche said Bumble understands enforcing the law will be a challenge, but the Texas legislation is intended to serve as a deterrent.

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shadowsword87
09/01/19 1:26:46 PM
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These sjw's are trampling all over my god given rights
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Yellow
09/01/19 1:30:15 PM
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LinkPizza
09/01/19 1:36:40 PM
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Sounds like straight people. Mostly women. Guys usually dont care as much and usually appreciate them. Wont really stop gay guys, either. The nudes be flying around on Grindr all the time...

Honestly, its not hard to not look at a photo. And if they sent nudes you didnt want to see, dont go into the convo anymore. Sounds like a bunch of babies who dont know how dating sites work. You arent forced to talk to anyone...
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adjl
09/01/19 1:50:00 PM
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WastelandCowboy posted...
Austin-based attorney J.T. Morris, who specializes in First Amendment cases, said the Texas law will face enforcement difficulties as well as legal challenges for being overly broad and vague.

"It reaches things that arguably could cover images related to medical advice or moms sharing information about breastfeeding or their babies' health - things like that which certainly can't be criminalized," Morris said.


Yeah, that's gonna take some ironing out to get the nuance right. I'm reminded of my mother having difficulty doing breastfeeding research at work (she's a doctor who specializes in lactation consulting) because the hospital's filters blocked any instance of the word "breast" as a porn site. That wasn't exactly working as intended.

LinkPizza posted...
Honestly, its not hard to not look at a photo. And if they sent nudes you didnt want to see, dont go into the convo anymore.


It's not that difficult to just look away from a flasher. And if they flash you, just don't go to that park anymore.

Sure, you can avoid it, but that doesn't mean it's not an unpleasant experience. Flashing's already illegal, so why not extend that to the digital equivalent?
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Fierce_Deity_08
09/01/19 1:56:02 PM
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I dont send anyone nude photos of myself, because I care about their health.
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Mead
09/01/19 2:10:17 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Sounds like straight people. Mostly women. Guys usually dont care as much and usually appreciate them. Wont really stop gay guys, either. The nudes be flying around on Grindr all the time...

Honestly, its not hard to not look at a photo. And if they sent nudes you didnt want to see, dont go into the convo anymore. Sounds like a bunch of babies who dont know how dating sites work. You arent forced to talk to anyone...


its not uncommon for women to get unwanted dickpics from total strangers

Yellow posted...
Good for Texas.



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LinkPizza
09/01/19 2:10:23 PM
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adjl posted...
Sure, you can avoid it, but that doesn't mean it's not an unpleasant experience. Flashing's already illegal, so why not extend that to the digital equivalent?

Because its stupid...
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LinkPizza
09/01/19 2:11:36 PM
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Mead posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Sounds like straight people. Mostly women. Guys usually dont care as much and usually appreciate them. Wont really stop gay guys, either. The nudes be flying around on Grindr all the time...

Honestly, its not hard to not look at a photo. And if they sent nudes you didnt want to see, dont go into the convo anymore. Sounds like a bunch of babies who dont know how dating sites work. You arent forced to talk to anyone...


its not uncommon for women to get unwanted dickpics from total strangers

True. I get them, too. Usually, I dont go into any convos where I dont want to talk to the person. So, I just dont see them.
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UberSsjNaruto
09/01/19 2:22:40 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Sounds like straight people. Mostly women. Guys usually dont care as much and usually appreciate them. Wont really stop gay guys, either. The nudes be flying around on Grindr all the time...

Honestly, its not hard to not look at a photo. And if they sent nudes you didnt want to see, dont go into the convo anymore. Sounds like a bunch of babies who dont know how dating sites work. You arent forced to talk to anyone...


What do you mean "don't know how dating sites work"? Dickpics aren't a must to get a convo started y'know. And it's quite hard to know what someone sent you a picture of without openingen the convo..

Besides, the law concerns unsolicited pictures. If the recipient actually agrees to see your penis it's no problem. I don't see why you would oppose of the law unless you're one of the guys sending unwanted dickpics to people.
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LinkPizza
09/01/19 2:33:54 PM
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UberSsjNaruto posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Sounds like straight people. Mostly women. Guys usually dont care as much and usually appreciate them. Wont really stop gay guys, either. The nudes be flying around on Grindr all the time...

Honestly, its not hard to not look at a photo. And if they sent nudes you didnt want to see, dont go into the convo anymore. Sounds like a bunch of babies who dont know how dating sites work. You arent forced to talk to anyone...


What do you mean "don't know how dating sites work"? Dickpics aren't a must to get a convo started y'know. And it's quite hard to know what someone sent you a picture of without openingen the convo..

Besides, the law concerns unsolicited pictures. If the recipient actually agrees to see your penis it's no problem. I don't see why you would oppose of the law unless you're one of the guys sending unwanted dickpics to people.

Theyre not a must or a way to start a convo. Never said that. But they do usually happen. Though, more so on hook-up sites rather than dating sites.

Depending on which app, you can sometimes tell. Not to mention, with text, it usually says someone sent a pic. With email, I think you can see the attachment. Social media, though, is different. I assume its if you send to to them directly instead of just being on their page. In that case, it depends on which platform...

And it happens on certain apps where people say want to see a picture and surprise people with a sick pic. Or sending clothed pics, then sneaking in nude one here or there. Either way, it shouldnt really be problem if people dont report them, so whatever...

Either way, Im not really a supporter of this law, but I dont care either way as it doesnt affect me...
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EvilMegas
09/01/19 2:44:53 PM
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Texas made a good law? Tf?
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adjl
09/01/19 2:46:05 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
adjl posted...
Sure, you can avoid it, but that doesn't mean it's not an unpleasant experience. Flashing's already illegal, so why not extend that to the digital equivalent?

Because its stupid...


For reasons you've yet to articulate.
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MICHALECOLE
09/01/19 2:46:51 PM
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Im surprised at Links stance on this
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LinkPizza
09/01/19 2:50:39 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Im surprised at Links stance on this

Im not against nudes and can avoid the ones I dont want to see...
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MICHALECOLE
09/01/19 2:57:32 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
MICHALECOLE posted...
Im surprised at Links stance on this

Im not against nudes and can avoid the ones I dont want to see...

Nobody here is against nudes, theyre against unwanted nudes. As Pam said on the office when Phyllis was flashed, its disgusting a demeaning
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Mead
09/01/19 2:59:32 PM
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Its sexual harassment for sure

I think you could even argue that its a non-physical form of sexual assault

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EvilMegas
09/01/19 3:06:00 PM
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If flashing a dick in person is assault this should be too, honestly.
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Doctor Foxx
09/01/19 3:09:14 PM
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Unsolicited genital pics are not cool

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ninja_lootz
09/01/19 3:41:16 PM
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Why does this need to be a law? Why can't dating sites/apps deal with this shit themselves?
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MICHALECOLE
09/01/19 3:41:54 PM
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ninja_lootz posted...
Why does this need to be a law? Why can't dating sites/apps deal with this shit themselves?



How do you propose they do that? Delete accounts? View every message before they get sent?
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Lokarin
09/01/19 3:43:44 PM
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Awww, now underage kids can't send their nudes to everyone to get them fired any more :V
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Mead
09/01/19 3:48:05 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Awww, now underage kids can't send their nudes to everyone to get them fired any more :V


What the hell are you even talking about

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Lokarin
09/01/19 3:49:21 PM
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Mead posted...

What the hell are you even talking about


It's a reference to that... senator?... who had nudes on his phone and said it was from popups and malware

What's his name? Dangit - now I can't remember.
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Mead
09/01/19 3:51:00 PM
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Lokarin posted...
It's a reference to that... senator?... who had nudes on his phone and said it was from popups and malware

What's his name? Dangit - now I can't remember.


You need to stop

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Lokarin
09/01/19 3:51:39 PM
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Mead posted...
Lokarin posted...
It's a reference to that... senator?... who had nudes on his phone and said it was from popups and malware

What's his name? Dangit - now I can't remember.


You need to stop


Ya, I was going for an uncouth joke and now I can't remember who the guy was
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Jen0125
09/01/19 3:59:18 PM
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ninja_lootz posted...
Why does this need to be a law? Why can't dating sites/apps deal with this shit themselves?


because reporting obviously isn't doing a great job and there should be some actual legal consequence for harassing someone with a unsolicited picture of your genitals
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Mead
09/01/19 4:01:33 PM
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Its downright delusional to think this only happens on dating sites

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Jen0125
09/01/19 4:09:28 PM
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Mead posted...
Its downright delusional to think this only happens on dating sites


seriously. for some reason in this age, men (mostly) believe that a great conversation starter on the internet on almost any website where you can privately communicate is to send a photo of their penis.

if they didn't ask, no one wants to see your penis.

a penis photo isn't a substitute for saying "Hello"
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Bugmeat
09/01/19 4:15:35 PM
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It's illegal to go around flashing your genitals in person. This is only a logical extension of that.


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Nade Duck
09/01/19 4:20:36 PM
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but random strangers need to see my gaping butthole.
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UberSsjNaruto
09/01/19 5:22:35 PM
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Nade Duck posted...
but random strangers need to see my gaping butthole.


you can send the pics to me Nade, I'd never report you
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09/01/19 5:58:16 PM
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This is great.

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Sarcasthma
09/01/19 6:26:06 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Either way, Im not really a supporter of this law, but I dont care either way as it doesnt affect me...

Maybe its just me, but your other posts in this topic sure make it seem like you care.
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LinkPizza
09/01/19 6:34:01 PM
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Sarcasthma posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Either way, Im not really a supporter of this law, but I dont care either way as it doesnt affect me...

Maybe its just me, but your other posts in this topic sure make it seem like you care.

Not really. I dont send any these days...
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GanonsSpirit
09/01/19 7:43:33 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
a penis photo isn't a substitute for saying "Hello"

What if I put a word bubble in my dick pic that says hello?
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LinkPizza
09/01/19 8:02:38 PM
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GanonsSpirit posted...
Jen0125 posted...
a penis photo isn't a substitute for saying "Hello"

What if I put a word bubble in my dick pic that says hello?

You have to also add googly eyes...
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Monopoman
09/01/19 8:04:39 PM
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It's illegal to walk around the mall in a trench coat and flash people your genitals I don't see much of a difference here.

The only problem is enforcing this one might be tricky, since they would need proof that the person that was sent the photo never requested it. While phone logs and texts are easy to get a hold of what if the person mentioned in RL they wanted the photo how would either party disprove or prove that.
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EvilMegas
09/01/19 8:15:08 PM
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Monopoman posted...
It's illegal to walk around the mall in a trench coat and flash people your genitals I don't see much of a difference here.

The only problem is enforcing this one might be tricky, since they would need proof that the person that was sent the photo never requested it. While phone logs and texts are easy to get a hold of what if the person mentioned in RL they wanted the photo how would either party disprove or prove that.

Just don't send dick pics.
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LinkPizza
09/01/19 8:18:17 PM
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Monopoman posted...
It's illegal to walk around the mall in a trench coat and flash people your genitals I don't see much of a difference here.

The only problem is enforcing this one might be tricky, since they would need proof that the person that was sent the photo never requested it. While phone logs and texts are easy to get a hold of what if the person mentioned in RL they wanted the photo how would either party disprove or prove that.

I guess youll have to get it in writing now. Make them sign a contract. Or tell them to text you that they want nudes.
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adjl
09/01/19 8:41:35 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
ninja_lootz posted...
Why does this need to be a law? Why can't dating sites/apps deal with this shit themselves?



How do you propose they do that? Delete accounts? View every message before they get sent?


The best they could do would be to let victims report offenders and ban accounts accordingly, but with the number of dating sites out there and the relative ease of making spare accounts, that wouldn't end up doing all that much. That would also happen on a site by site basis, meaning most wouldn't want to take the revenue hit that would come with being the first one to do it (since offenders would just go to a competitor's site, so long as any existed that didn't crack down on it). Enforcing it at a legal level is a much more effective approach, since it's both a significant punishment and it would be applied to all sites.
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LinkPizza
09/01/19 8:50:17 PM
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How will they find the person on the app or whatever to fine them?
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Mead
09/01/19 8:50:53 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
How will they find the person on the app or whatever to fine them?


They can triangulate the dick signals

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Sarcasthma
09/01/19 9:02:08 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
How will they find the person on the app or whatever to fine them?

Dont you need to provide some kind of identification to sign up for those sites? (the dating site I use does)
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LinkPizza
09/01/19 9:11:06 PM
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Sarcasthma posted...
LinkPizza posted...
How will they find the person on the app or whatever to fine them?

Dont you need to provide some kind of identification to sign up for those sites? (the dating site I use does)

Not that I know of. You name and making a profile. And your email. But I dont think I had to put my address or anything. And it doesnt even have to be your real name. Could be a throwaway e-mail, as well...
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zebatov
09/01/19 9:24:01 PM
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How are they going to charge people from overseas or in other countries? The only times Ive ever seen examples of this were people from overseas.

Sarcasthma posted...
Dont you need to provide some kind of identification to sign up for those sites? (the dating site I use does)
Ive never been required to, and Ive used sites that are internationally-based on top of local.

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Sarcasthma
09/01/19 9:37:53 PM
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Huh, I guess its just Japanese dating sites that require ID.

I wonder how much of a pushback thered be if American sites started implementing that policy.
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T0ffee
09/01/19 10:33:51 PM
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Sarcasthma posted...
Huh, I guess its just Japanese dating sites that require ID.

I wonder how much of a pushback thered be if American sites started implementing that policy.


Don't those paid dating sites already do that? Like eharmony or Christianmingle?
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LinkPizza
09/01/19 10:35:13 PM
#49:


T0ffee posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
Huh, I guess its just Japanese dating sites that require ID.

I wonder how much of a pushback thered be if American sites started implementing that policy.


Don't those paid dating sites already do that? Like eharmony or Christianmingle?

Paid maybe. But thats because you have to enter a card number. Maybe theyll just charge it to whichever card you use...
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magemaximus
09/01/19 11:37:45 PM
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girls don't like random d pics.
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