Current Events > 'Will & Grace' actors want to dox, blacklist Beverly Hills Trump supporters.

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https://pagesix.com/2019/08/31/debra-messing-eric-mccormack-angry-over-hollywood-trump-fundraiser/

Stars from the hit NBC series Will and Grace are upset about an Emmy week fundraiser in Beverly Hills for President Trump next month and vow to name and shame anyone who dares to show up, hoping to blacklist participants from working in Hollywood. Please print a list of all attendees please. The public has a right to know, Debra Messing tweeted Friday night in response to a Hollywood Reporter story on the upcoming event. She and co-star Eric McCormack called for the outing of all Trump supporters who attend. Hey, @THR, McCormack posted on Twitter. Kindly report on everyone attending this event, so the rest of us can be clear about who we dont wanna work with. Thx. But the two faced a storm of backlash from critics who accused them of modern-day McCarthyism.

Whats the difference between Joe McCarthy and Debra Messing? asked Fox News host Greg Gutfeld. One organized a witch hunt against law-abiding people with dissenting opinions. The other was a senator from Wisconsin. Labeling half of America as deplorable isnt a winning strategy, Trump communications director Tim Murtaugh told The Post. Just ask Hillary.
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Never liked them or that show even when it aired decades ago.

"But, hey, It's only Mccarthyism if their side does it."
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Fair. He's the President. As citizens of America, we should have transparency with who his donors are. Publicizing their names isn't doxxing.

"lets just shoot ourselves in the foot again"

Fuck stories like this are frustrating.
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CommonStar posted...

Fair. He's the President. As citizens of America, we should have transparency with who his donors are. Publicizing their names isn't doxxing.

This. I don't want people blacklisted, but I do want to know who is funding any and all political campaigns on both sides of the fence.
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CommonStar posted...

Fair. He's the President. As citizens of America, we should have transparency with who his donors are. Publicizing their names isn't doxxing.

If you're weaponizing it like this person is trying to do, it's tantamount to it.
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ScazarMeltex posted...

CommonStar posted...

Fair. He's the President. As citizens of America, we should have transparency with who his donors are. Publicizing their names isn't doxxing.

This. I don't want people blacklisted, but I do want to know who is funding any and all political campaigns on both sides of the fence.

This reminds me of the union I used to belong to. There was a small group who wanted all votes to be public, so they could single out and bully dissenters into voting for a strike.
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Eh as much as I hate Trump and his supporters I don't really like this. People should try to spit less venom in general. Just cause Trump and his supporters are trash doesn't mean liberals should aim to just be better than that. Everyone just ends up stooping lower and lower.

I wish liberals would admit to playing a role in the current divisiveness of America. They certainly are far from contributing the majority, but they aren't squeaky clean either. Just aim to do your best instead of being better than the "deplorables."
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This is pretty awful and crazy to see how awful some of these actors are out in their real life.
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There's a very simple way to not be shamed for financially supporting the racist president.
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pogo_rabid posted...

ScazarMeltex posted...

CommonStar posted...

Fair. He's the President. As citizens of America, we should have transparency with who his donors are. Publicizing their names isn't doxxing.

This. I don't want people blacklisted, but I do want to know who is funding any and all political campaigns on both sides of the fence.

This reminds me of the union I used to belong to. There was a small group who wanted all votes to be public, so they could single out and bully dissenters into voting for a strike.

Eh unions are a bit different. You pay them to represent you. Unions are known for being corrupt. Though a corrupt union is still way better than a corrupt company.

Seems very odd to not make the votes union representatives cast available for union members to see. Not sure what you mean by bullying, but I see no problem with union members openly questioning the decision making of representatives and holding them accountable. These decisions very much affect peoples lives. I'd only call it bullying if they wanted to scream and yell insults as that stuff just makes things ugly instead of productive.

Then again, I've known union representatives who are very corrupt and slimy people who deserve to have insults screamed at them although that isn't likely to be productive.
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Doxxing is finding information that isn't meant to be public. All donors should be kept on record.

I won't deny this is an offensive move, of course it is.
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Antifar posted...

There's a very simple way to not be shamed for financially supporting the racist president.

^^^^^^
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

This is pretty awful and crazy to see how awful some of these actors are out in their real life.

It really is. I heard that host from the Apprentice had some issues with harrassment not too long ago.
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Weak people
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TommyG663513 posted...

pogo_rabid posted...

ScazarMeltex posted...

CommonStar posted...

Fair. He's the President. As citizens of America, we should have transparency with who his donors are. Publicizing their names isn't doxxing.

This. I don't want people blacklisted, but I do want to know who is funding any and all political campaigns on both sides of the fence.

This reminds me of the union I used to belong to. There was a small group who wanted all votes to be public, so they could single out and bully dissenters into voting for a strike.

Eh unions are a bit different. You pay them to represent you. Unions are known for being corrupt. Though a corrupt union is still way better than a corrupt company.

Seems very odd to not make the votes union representatives cast available for union members to see. Not sure what you mean by bullying, but I see no problem with union members openly questioning the decision making of representatives and holding them accountable. These decisions very much affect peoples lives. I'd only call it bullying if they wanted to scream and yell insults as that stuff just makes things ugly instead of productive.

Then again, I've known union representatives who are very corrupt and slimy people who deserve to have insults screamed at them although that isn't likely to be productive.

Bullying as in, they get some big guys to have a "chat" with you in a private place to convince you to see it from their side.
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Nothing wrong with putting public info out there

If people are ashamed at being outed as Trump/GOP supporters then maybe they should take a moment and try to puzzle together why they feel ashamed of who they support.
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Doom_Art posted...

Nothing wrong with putting public info out there

If people are ashamed at being outed as Trump/GOP supporters then maybe they should take a moment and try to puzzle together why they feel ashamed of who they support.

Isn't the whole reason some want it public like people in OP is so they can get blacklisted. If there was no harm in it id imagine people wouldn't have issues.
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pogo_rabid posted...

TommyG663513 posted...

pogo_rabid posted...

ScazarMeltex posted...

CommonStar posted...

Fair. He's the President. As citizens of America, we should have transparency with who his donors are. Publicizing their names isn't doxxing.

This. I don't want people blacklisted, but I do want to know who is funding any and all political campaigns on both sides of the fence.

This reminds me of the union I used to belong to. There was a small group who wanted all votes to be public, so they could single out and bully dissenters into voting for a strike.

Eh unions are a bit different. You pay them to represent you. Unions are known for being corrupt. Though a corrupt union is still way better than a corrupt company.

Seems very odd to not make the votes union representatives cast available for union members to see. Not sure what you mean by bullying, but I see no problem with union members openly questioning the decision making of representatives and holding them accountable. These decisions very much affect peoples lives. I'd only call it bullying if they wanted to scream and yell insults as that stuff just makes things ugly instead of productive.

Then again, I've known union representatives who are very corrupt and slimy people who deserve to have insults screamed at them although that isn't likely to be productive.

Bullying as in, they get some big guys to have a "chat" with you in a private place to convince you to see it from their side.

I wish you'd just state exactly what it is. No need to imply.

I assume you mean some sort of intimidation. If it is literally (I assume it isn't literal) a big intimidating person having a talk to convince someone of a different point of view as it pertains to their vote then I don't see such a huge problem. I'm not one to generally see union representatives as altruistic people who seek to represent their members.

I mean, it sounds like you're saying they do something that the mafia in movies and TV shows would do to the effect of "nice house and family you have, it'd be a shame if something happened to it." Which is beyond bullying. That would be threats and intimidation.
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Yeah I think he's getting his opinion on unions from like old gangster movies or whatever

I grew up in a family with several union members and while there is drama, there was never anything I heard of that I could call "threatening"
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same thing happened when obama was president, it just didnt occur in hollywood.
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Doom_Art posted...

Yeah I think he's getting his opinion on unions from like old gangster movies or whatever

I grew up in a family with several union members and while there is drama, there was never anything I heard of that I could call "threatening"

"your firsthand experience doesn't line up with how I want to frame the situation".

You guys can think what you want. I lived through it. Inb4 my "fellow" leftists try to label me a rightwinger again because I don't follow the accepted narrative.
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I legit just found out Chuck Woolery is a Trumper yesterday. That was painful.
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to support him in 2016 was one thing; but to do it now after all the shit he's said and ruined? you have no one to blame but yourself for getting outed.
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Antifar posted...

There's a very simple way to not be shamed for financially supporting the racist president.

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only stupid thing about this is that they can still give him the same money, just skip the party.
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Lmao.

It seems some people have it in their minds that if they shame half the country, they'll all realize their mistakes and fall in line.

Nothing could go wrong of course.

Conflict posted...

Where I come from isn't all that great

My automobile is a piece of crap

My fashion sense is a little whack

And my friends are just as screwy as me

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InfinityMonster posted...

It seems some people have it in their minds that if they shame half the country, they'll all realize their mistakes and fall in line.

Nothing could go wrong of course.

Are you suggesting "tHiS iS wHy TrUmP w0n"?
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Doom_Art posted...

InfinityMonster posted...

It seems some people have it in their minds that if they shame half the country, they'll all realize their mistakes and fall in line.

Nothing could go wrong of course.

Are you suggesting "tHiS iS wHy TrUmP w0n"?

Imagine being Canadian and thinking about Trump 24/7.

Evening_Dragon posted...

All donors should be kept on record.

Donors of a certain amount should be kept on record because they might have political sway over the President. A granny from Iowa shouldn't be continually harassed because she mailed in $5.
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Antifar posted...

There's a very simple way to not be shamed for financially supporting the racist president.

"Don't want to get bullied? Then fall in line."
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StucklnMyPants posted...

"Don't want to get bullied? Then fall in line."

It's entirely fair for people to call you an asshole if, in fact, you are an asshole.
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"I don't want people to be harassed for their politics or anything, I just want them to think twice before supporting the president...

... for fear of being harassed."
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InfinityMonster posted...

Imagine being Canadian and thinking about Trump 24/7.

Climate change - which Trump has worked at every available opportunity to make worse - will have impacts far beyond America's borders.
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Is it morally wrong to continue supporting Trump at this point? Yes. Is this a dirty political tactic that will more than likely blow up in their collective faces? Also yes.
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pogo_rabid posted...

Doom_Art posted...

Yeah I think he's getting his opinion on unions from like old gangster movies or whatever

I grew up in a family with several union members and while there is drama, there was never anything I heard of that I could call "threatening"

"your firsthand experience doesn't line up with how I want to frame the situation".

You guys can think what you want. I lived through it. Inb4 my "fellow" leftists try to label me a rightwinger again because I don't follow the accepted narrative.

Ugh what?

I'm just trying to get you to elaborate on what you meant. Seemed like you wanted to make implications as opposed to outright stating anything.

I'm sure some gangster type stuff does go on with unions. In fact, I'd be surprised if it didn't. Like I said earlier, unions tend to be pretty corrupt. They just also tend to be much better than letting corporations dictate workers rights and compensations.

I just tend to see the word "bullying" get tossed around so readily as an attempt to claim victim status and escape accountability for your own actions. Like "how dare my constituency point out to me how I'm screwing them. I Won't be bullied."
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privileged white people should not be telling black people how to vote...

https://popculture.com/celebrity/2019/09/01/debra-messing-approves-sign-president-donald-trump-supporters-mentally-ill/
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Doom_Art posted...

InfinityMonster posted...

It seems some people have it in their minds that if they shame half the country, they'll all realize their mistakes and fall in line.

Nothing could go wrong of course.

Are you suggesting "tHiS iS wHy TrUmP w0n"?

No it isn't why Trump won, but it clearly doesn't help anything. It just makes you personally feel better. It also tends to escalate thibgs further.

Instead of screaming at someone that you think they're a racist and awful and all that you should just quietly think that to yourself and walk away. Meanwhile, be politically active and reach out to those in the middle in hopes of swaying their votes.

Like it or not, idiot Trump supporters are a big part of this country. You need to make some sort of attempt to work with them or work around them. You can't shame them into not existing.

Trump supporters tend to be pretty awful, but a lot of leftists take that to mean they can be slightly less awful and immune to criticism. As embarrassed as I am of Trump supporters I am similarly embarassed of all the "progressives" who fail to look at themselves in the mirror.
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TommyG663513 posted...

Doom_Art posted...

InfinityMonster posted...

It seems some people have it in their minds that if they shame half the country, they'll all realize their mistakes and fall in line.

Nothing could go wrong of course.

Are you suggesting "tHiS iS wHy TrUmP w0n"?

No it isn't why Trump won, but it clearly doesn't help anything. It just makes you personally feel better. It also tends to escalate thibgs further.

Instead of screaming at someone that you think they're a racist and awful and all that you should just quietly think that to yourself and walk away. Meanwhile, be politically active and reach out to those in the middle in hopes of swaying their votes.

Like it or not, idiot Trump supporters are a big part of this country. You need to make some sort of attempt to work with them or work around them. You can't shame them into not existing.

Trump supporters tend to be pretty awful, but a lot of leftists take that to mean they can be slightly less awful and immune to criticism. As embarrassed as I am of Trump supporters I am similarly embarassed of all the "progressives" who fail to look at themselves in the mirror.

"same thing both sides guys, i'm so smart"
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CommonStar posted...

Fair. He's the President. As citizens of America, we should have transparency with who his donors are. Publicizing their names isn't doxxing.

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Very misleading topic title.
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But libs are so tolerant and open minded tho

CADE FOSTER posted...

CommonStar posted...

Fair. He's the President. As citizens of America, we should have transparency with who his donors are. Publicizing their names isn't doxxing.

Except the article clearly states the intent is to name and shame in hopes of blacklisting participants from working in Hollywood, so...

Yeah, its not whatsoever okay

Evening_Dragon posted...

TommyG663513 posted...

Doom_Art posted...

InfinityMonster posted...

It seems some people have it in their minds that if they shame half the country, they'll all realize their mistakes and fall in line.

Nothing could go wrong of course.

Are you suggesting "tHiS iS wHy TrUmP w0n"?

No it isn't why Trump won, but it clearly doesn't help anything. It just makes you personally feel better. It also tends to escalate thibgs further.

Instead of screaming at someone that you think they're a racist and awful and all that you should just quietly think that to yourself and walk away. Meanwhile, be politically active and reach out to those in the middle in hopes of swaying their votes.

Like it or not, idiot Trump supporters are a big part of this country. You need to make some sort of attempt to work with them or work around them. You can't shame them into not existing.

Trump supporters tend to be pretty awful, but a lot of leftists take that to mean they can be slightly less awful and immune to criticism. As embarrassed as I am of Trump supporters I am similarly embarassed of all the "progressives" who fail to look at themselves in the mirror.

"same thing both sides guys, i'm so smart"

That isn't what I said, but good luck with future attempts at reading comprehension.
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Noting which people attend an event is not doxxing.'

Also,

Lebronwon posted...

Whats the difference between Joe McCarthy and Debra Messing? asked Fox News host Greg Gutfeld. One organized a witch hunt against law-abiding people with dissenting opinions. The other was a senator from Wisconsin. Labeling half of America as deplorable isnt a winning strategy, Trump communications director Tim Murtaugh told The Post. Just ask Hillary.

There are not enough yikes in the world that in 2019 morons on fox news are defending Joseph McCarthy. In the form of a joke, of course, they couldn't come out and just say good stuff about him. But yes, that's what they did.

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Antifar posted...

InfinityMonster posted...

Imagine being Canadian and thinking about Trump 24/7.

Climate change - which Trump has worked at every available opportunity to make worse - will have impacts far beyond America's borders.

Then you would have China, the #1 contributor to GhG, to blame.