Poll of the Day > I saw Avengers: Endgame this weekend, and I don't think it was good *SPOILERS*

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I mean, it was alright, maybe like a 6/10. I know I'm late to the party, but here goes:

First of all, I hate time travel gimmicks. In a vacuum, traveling one way to the future is borderline fine, but traveling to the past would just create way too many changes to the future ala butterfly effect. The movie makes a point in explaining on how the Avengers have to go to the past to get the infinity stones and place them exactly back in that same moment as to stop timelines from being created/splitting off. I'm somewhat ok with that. What breaks that rule is when Thanos and his homies get brought to the present. The guy brings whole fleets of people/creatures into the present to combat the good guys, which would create some sort of time paradox as Thanos and crew wouldn't be fighting at Wakanda in Avengers Infinity war.

Time travel also opens the door to bring back dead characters, as seen with Gamora. Hopefully, time travel isn't a plot device that'll be used ever again in the MCU (unless it somehow brings back Robert Downy Jr. as Ironman)

Next, some of the scenes were extremely cheesy and not in a good way. The most obvious scene would be the Hawkeye vs Blackwidow "who can out suicide the other" scene. Super lame. Another painful moment was the splash screen of all the heroes vs all the villains. It just didn't look good. Ditto for the shot with all the female heroes.

I'm not even gonna complain about certain characters getting the shaft, as it's nearly impossible to give all those characters enough screen time to make all the fans happy.

I haven't seen the Captain Marvel movie, but her character was just kinda annoying to me. She's probably the strongest character in the MCU, but she was just super bland or something. Can't quite put my finger on it, but she just rubbed me the wrong way.

Lastly, is the effect of Hulk's snap talked about at all in the newest spider-man movie discussed at all? I mean, all the people that died are just immediately brought back to life while everyone else's life has advanced five years. I mean, what would be the odds of all of Peter Parker's friends/classmates disappearing in the snap? It seemed like everything just went back to normal, but admittedly not much was shown at the end of Endgame
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They went back in time to alternate realities because they can't change their own past, iz how Loki is getting a tv show, it's not the dead Loki but a different one.
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darcandkharg31 posted...

They went back in time to alternate realities because they can't change their own past

Did they go over that part really fast? Because I felt like they explained it a bit but just glossed over it
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green dragon posted...

Another painful moment was the splash screen of all the heroes vs all the villains. It just didn't look good. Ditto for the shot with all the female heroes.

yeh, supposed to be super cool but it all came off as lame to me, specially when caps says his usual avengers assemble line.

green dragon posted...

I haven't seen the Captain Marvel movie, but her character was just kinda annoying to me. She's probably the strongest character in the MCU, but she was just super bland or something. Can't quite put my finger on it, but she just rubbed me the wrong way

Everyone had the same gripe.

green dragon posted...

Lastly, is the effect of Hulk's snap talked about at all in the newest spider-man movie discussed at all? I mean, all the people that died are just immediately brought back to life while everyone else's life has advanced five years. I mean, what would be the odds of all of Peter Parker's friends/classmates disappearing in the snap? It seemed like everything just went back to normal, but admittedly not much was shown at the end of Endgame

I haven't seen the new spider-man but I seen a little snippet where they say everyone's aged five year's and one kids like "My little brothers older than me now!" lulz, idk.
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green dragon posted...

Next, some of the scenes were extremely cheesy and not in a good way. The most obvious scene would be the Hawkeye vs Blackwidow "who can out suicide the other" scene. Super lame. Another painful moment was the splash screen of all the heroes vs all the villains. It just didn't look good. Ditto for the shot with all the female heroes.

Bro, I literally talked about the former on here earlier today!

The latter was plain bad. Just Marvel patting themselves on the back when most of those women have never even said a word to each other.
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green dragon posted...

The movie makes a point in explaining on how the Avengers have to go to the past to get the infinity stones and place them exactly back in that same moment as to stop timelines from being created/splitting off. I'm somewhat ok with that. What breaks that rule is when Thanos and his homies get brought to the present. The guy brings whole fleets of people/creatures into the present to combat the good guys, which would create some sort of time paradox as Thanos and crew wouldn't be fighting at Wakanda in Avengers Infinity war.

The timeline already split into a separate world by them travelling back. Returning the stones is more a safety precaution they came up with, which was then confirmed to be necessary by the conversation between Hulk and the Ancient One.

That Thanos was never the one from their reality, thus their actions matter not for their established past and they just removed a tyrant from a different reality from power.
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PK_Spam posted...

The latter was plain bad. Just Marvel patting themselves on the back when most of those women have never even said a word to each other.

Yeah, it's was pandering to certain groups. Which is whatever, but just wasn't really cool or anything imo.

Nichtcrawler X posted...

The timeline already split into a separate world by them travelling back. Returning the stones is more a safety precaution they came up with, which was then confirmed to be necessary by the conversation between Hulk and the Ancient One.

That Thanos was never the one from their reality, thus their actions matter not for their established past and they just removed a tyrant from a different reality from power.

Alright, that actually makes a bit of sense. I just hope they don't revisit time travel.

darcandkharg31 posted...

I haven't seen the new spider-man but I seen a little snippet where they say everyone's aged five year's and one kids like "My little brothers older than me now!" lulz, idk.

lol, that's funny. It's probably an issue that just gets swept under the rug.
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green dragon posted...

The most obvious scene would be the Hawkeye vs Blackwidow "who can out suicide the other" scene.

yeah that was fucking stupid

green dragon posted...

Hulk

god i was so disappointed with hulk in this movie. and thor

but mostly hulk

PK_Spam posted...

The latter was plain bad. Just Marvel patting themselves on the back when most of those women have never even said a word to each other.

it made no sense. im sure captain marvel was fully capable of flying through all those enemies on her own, she didn't really need help >.>
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How did you feel about Thor flipping from the fat funny guy to SadBoi and back every 5 minutes? Sometimes even in the same scene?

Because the consensus in the other topic was that I was nitpicking.
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DevilSummoner1 posted...

god i was so disappointed with hulk in this movie. and thor

but mostly hulk

Yeah, Thor was pathetic, but I guess it kinda made sense considering what happened in Infinity War. Hulk was kinda disappointing as well, but he at least used the infinity gauntlet, so that was obviously very important.
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Infinity war was better. Also the first hour of endgame was dull af.
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wwinterj25 posted...

Infinity war was better. Also the first hour of endgame was dull af.

Infinity War was way better. I honestly borderline wish everything was just wrapped up in infinity war as endgame left a bitter taste in my mouth.

Maybe it was all the hype. Maybe it was the fact that I watched this at home as opposed to the theater. Maybe it was the slow start. Whatever the case, this was probably one of the least enjoyable MCU movies I've seen (keep in mind that I haven't seen them all).
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It wasnt the setting you watched it in that was the problem. Endgame is just a flawed movie.
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green dragon posted...

First of all, I hate time travel gimmicks.

I don't hate it but I don't like it as a plot device either. A movie about time travel I can accept but a movie using time travel to fix problems I feel creates more issues than resolution.

green dragon posted...

Lastly, is the effect of Hulk's snap talked about at all in the newest spider-man movie discussed at all? I mean, all the people that died are just immediately brought back to life while everyone else's life has advanced five years. I mean, what would be the odds of all of Peter Parker's friends/classmates disappearing in the snap? It seemed like everything just went back to normal, but admittedly not much was shown at the end of Endgame

Friends and I briefly talked about this afterwards and felt they only touched on the good things from bringing people back but didn't touch on the potential mishaps. If it was shortened to maybe one year instead of five years we felt enough can transpire to make it so Tony want to keep his daughter but not so big of a gap that other issues mighta arisen.
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The Hawkeye/Black Widow scene was probably the saddest in the movie for me. There's just no way anyone, especially heroes, would just stand by and watch their good friend give up their life. It just went to show how much they care about each other.

I didn't mind any of the cheese/fanservice in battle scenes either. This was one of the biggest battles in superhero movie history and the culmination of years of movies; there's no way they weren't going to give fans a few moments they'd been wanting to see.

Captain Marvel, I feel, was written out of most of the movie to make things less one-sided. I saw Endgame before her movie, and she seemed to have no personality at all in Endgame. I did like her movie though.

The time travel thing was explained as different timelines - which raises questions as to how Captain America did what he did.
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The way I look at it is this: If Spider-Man had friends who weren't snapped, they wouldn't have been given any screentime previously as they wouldn't be important going forward.

It's the same reason we never see any of the heroes poop.
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keyblader1985 posted...

which raises questions as to how Captain America did what he did.

He cucked himself, went back into a different reality and banged Agent Carter as that realities Captain sat in the sea.
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darcandkharg31 posted...

He cucked himself, went back into a different reality and banged Agent Carter as that realities Captain sat in the sea.

Not just himself but also the guy that Carter was meant to marry. All the while of somehow ending back in the main reality. I can only assume at some point Pym and/or Stark of that reality was able to send Rodgers back to the main reality.
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green dragon posted...

the Avengers have to go to the past to get the infinity stones and place them exactly back in that same moment as to stop timelines from being created/splitting off

That's not actually why they do that.

The scene with the Ancient One is what you need to look at for the explanation. She pretty explicitly says that removing even ONE Infinity Stone from any given universe/timeline/reality/etc will destabilize that reality and effectively destroy their universe - and as someone who LIVES in the universe the Avengers are trying to steal the stones from, she's more motivated to protect her own reality than to help save theirs. She really only relents because it's established the stones will be returned afterward. So the Avengers basically HAVE to return the stones, or they'll have literally destroyed four universes (and everyone in them) in their attempt to save half of one (their own).

It's not explicitly spelled out, but the implication seems to be that the only reason the mainline universe we're following survives the destruction of the stones is because they ALL get destroyed at the same time. If any of them remained while the others were gone the imbalance would destroy everything.

Yes, it's a hand-wave cop-out, but it's internally consistent.

Basically, the movies now exist in a multiverse in exactly the same way the comics have for nearly 50 years.

And for fun, here you go:

http://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Multiverse/Universe_Listing



green dragon posted...

Time travel also opens the door to bring back dead characters, as seen with Gamora.

Yes, as has been done multiple times in the comics. They've actually done it at least twice with Tony Stark alone.

The problem is, you're not getting the person back. You're getting an alternate universe version of that person back. Who has their own loved ones back in their universe of origin who you're screwing over by taking them. And there's a distinct likelihood that Alternate Universe Bob isn't going to want to stay in your universe where it's now years later and lots of things are slightly different from what he remembers, when he knows his own world and people are still waiting for him back home.

Gamora works mostly because that version of her has almost no loved ones or anything of worth that she's losing, and she has a number of reasons to simply stay where she is. But she's NOT Quill's Gamora (from her perspective, they've barely met), and his inevitable attempts to find and "win her back" will create huge complications (from her perspective, he doesn't love her, he loves a different version of her and only wants her because she's the only available copy).

Very few "good" characters in-universe are going to suggest stealing parallel universe versions of their dead friends or lovers, no matter how badly they miss them. Especially if it means ruining the life of your own parallel self in the process. Nor would most characters "stolen" in such a way ever be willing to stay, or would tolerate the enormous selfishness of anyone who did it.

Dead people come back to life all the time in comics. Whether it be something like Coulson being brought back via magical alien blood, or someone making a clone, or time-travel, or reincarnation, or resurrection, or any number of other possible methods, there's always going to be a looming threat of any dead character coming back. But they're generally smart enough not to abuse that loophole, at least not until the movies stop making money and they start doing ridiculous stunts to win people back.

Realistically, we're more likely to see Tony again via eventual inevitable future reboot than we are time travel. Unless someone finds/makes a Tony AI somehow.
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Agreed, TC. Probably the worst Avengers movie.

And they did address it in Spider-man Far From Home, which was a really great movie and you should see it (first half is just ok, but 2nd half was fucking awesome)

wwinterj25 posted...

Infinity war was better. Also the first hour of endgame was dull af.

Also agreed.

IW > Avengers 1 > AoU > Endgame

If you count Civil War as an Avengers movie (IMO, it is in all but name), then either it or IW is the best Avengers movie.

green dragon posted...

(unless it somehow brings back Robert Downy Jr. as Ironman)

Absolutely not. That should never happen. People die when they are killed. He's gone, and people have to learn to live with that. As much as people don't like it, Death is inevitable. The fact that it will one day come means we should appreciate the people we have while they are still here. One day you won't be able to.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

The scene with the Ancient One is what you need to look at for the explanation. She pretty explicitly says that removing even ONE Infinity Stone from any given universe/timeline/reality/etc will destabilize that reality and effectively destroy their universe - and as someone who LIVES in the universe the Avengers are trying to steal the stones from, she's more motivated to protect her own reality than to help save theirs. She really only relents because it's established the stones will be returned afterward. So the Avengers basically HAVE to return the stones, or they'll have literally destroyed four universes (and everyone in them) in their attempt to save half of one (their own).

Pretty sure that's not what she was saying. She was saying that removing such a powerful object from a timeline will have huge consequences (e.g. Strange can't beat Dormammu), not that a timeline that's missing one of the stones will just blow up.
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SpeedDemon20 posted...

People die when they are killed. He's gone, and people have to learn to live with that. As much as people don't like it, Death is inevitable. The fact that it will one day come means we should appreciate the people we have while they are still here. One day you won't be able to.

It's just a movie bruh
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darcandkharg31 posted...

SpeedDemon20 posted...

People die when they are killed. He's gone, and people have to learn to live with that. As much as people don't like it, Death is inevitable. The fact that it will one day come means we should appreciate the people we have while they are still here. One day you won't be able to.

It's just a movie bruh

Yeah, but ever since Naruto pulled that shit FOR THE GAZILLIONTH TIME IN A ROW, I'm really mad at anything else that does it.
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So much bad information in here being presented as fact, yikes.
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GanonsSpirit posted...

Pretty sure that's not what she was saying. She was saying that removing such a powerful object from a timeline will have huge consequences (e.g. Strange can't beat Dormammu), not that a timeline that's missing one of the stones will just blow up.

I'd have to watch the scene again to be sure, but either way it's still the same motivation.

"I can't risk this reality on a promise."

She doesn't want to give the stone away because losing it will harm her reality. The heroes have to return the stones to avoid doing that harm. They're not willing to sacrifice four universes to save their own, because they're heroes. Especially when solving the problem after the fact is an incredibly easy fix.

They don't return the stones to prevent branching timelines or other alterations to the "intended" flow of events, because they literally cause those things the moment they appear in those timelines anyway.

If it was JUST a question of future consequences, they'd probably be better off NOT returning most of the stones anyway. Yes, Strange needs the Time Stone to stop Dormammu, and the Mind stone is necessary to create the Vision (but on the other hand, it also creates Ultron, kills a LOT of people, and ultimately leads to the Sokovia Accords), but the Space stone leads directly to the alien invasion of New York, the Power stone leads to Ronan's attack on Xandar, the Reality stone leads to Malekith's attack on Asgard (and the death of Thor's mother), and the Soul stone... doesn't do much of anything at all. Most of the potential consequences caused by half those stones are BAD, and removing them from a timeline forever actually saves hundreds/thousands of lives.

Though the real benefit to any reality losing a stone would be that, in that reality, no one can ever assemble the full gauntlet. That would prevent at least three different Thanoses from ever killing half the universe (it would be four, but they killed that one themselves).
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I think Thanos with 5 stones is worse (better? depending on your PoV) than Thanos with 6 stones, because if he kills you, YOU'RE DEFINITELY not coming back. He suffered no backlash from using 5 stones too. He'd just ez mode his way planet to planet. That's probably why Doctor Strange gave him the time stone (he most definitely could have kept it away from Thanos).
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SpeedDemon20 posted...

I think Thanos with 5 stones is worse (better? depending on your PoV) than Thanos with 6 stones, because if he kills you, YOU'RE DEFINITELY not coming back. He suffered no backlash from using 5 stones too. He'd just ez mode his way planet to planet. That's probably why Doctor Strange gave him the time stone (he most definitely could have kept it away from Thanos).

With 5 stones, he's just the most powerful asshole in the universe.

With 6, he can snap half of all life away.

The Gauntlet is explicitly more powerful than the sum of its parts. The snap required all six working together and still nearly killed him. With only five, he'd have to keep traveling from planet to planet and doing the job manually, which would make him radically less of a threat (if anything, it wouldn't even put him on par with Galactus).

But that's assuming that he'd even bother collecting the stones if he couldn't get all six. He didn't even bother trying to gather them all until he knew where five of the six were (and he basically gave one up and ignored a second early on, and made little real effort to get a third from Ronan). He wants the full set - the individual stones don't really appeal to him. Sure, they make him more powerful, but he's already powerful enough to do the job one planet at a time for the most part. He really only wants the stones to do the whole job all in one go.
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SpeedDemon20 posted...

darcandkharg31 posted...

SpeedDemon20 posted...

People die when they are killed. He's gone, and people have to learn to live with that. As much as people don't like it, Death is inevitable. The fact that it will one day come means we should appreciate the people we have while they are still here. One day you won't be able to.

It's just a movie bruh

Yeah, but ever since Naruto pulled that shit FOR THE GAZILLIONTH TIME IN A ROW, I'm really mad at anything else that does it.

you should watch dragon ball
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

SpeedDemon20 posted...

darcandkharg31 posted...

SpeedDemon20 posted...

People die when they are killed. He's gone, and people have to learn to live with that. As much as people don't like it, Death is inevitable. The fact that it will one day come means we should appreciate the people we have while they are still here. One day you won't be able to.

It's just a movie bruh

Yeah, but ever since Naruto pulled that shit FOR THE GAZILLIONTH TIME IN A ROW, I'm really mad at anything else that does it.

you should watch dragon ball

Or he should just read comics.

There used to be a saying: "No one stays dead in comics, except for Bucky, Uncle Ben, and Jason Todd." And then people stopped saying that, because they brought Bucky and Jason Todd back.

The X-Men themselves literally used to say that "Mutant heaven doesn't have pearly gates, it has revolving doors" because it had become a joke in-universe that no mutant ever stays dead for long. Phoenix started that trend, but every major member of the team has probably died at least once by this point and come back. Possibly multiple times. Jean actually joked a few times that coming back from the dead was her go-to party trick. And there was a running joke in X-Factor for a while after Banshee died, where his daughter kept telling people he'd be back eventually (and it was played for tragedy, in a "he's never coming back and she's in denial" sort of way. And then, of course, he came back. Three times, actually).

Both Marvel and DC have tried to fight this perception and make death more meaningful by establishing "DEAD MEANS DEAD" rules (Marvel in the early 2000s, DC after the Blackest Night crossover in which literally everyone ever came back in some way), but it never lasts. Death is an inconvenience at best in comics.
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Oh, and half the point of Secret Invasion when Marvel did it was "Hey, let's bring back a bunch of dead characters, by saying they were secretly Skrulls when they died." You know that character that died 10+ years ago? Nope, that wasn't them, it was a Skrull. The real person was in space prison for years, and now they've escaped.

The MCU has Skrulls now, so just wait until it turns out the Tony who sacrificed himself was really a Skrull, and the real Tony was abducted years earlier.
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I'D BE SO MAD. I'd need increase my mass to contain it all.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

It's not explicitly spelled out, but the implication seems to be that the only reason the mainline universe we're following survives the destruction of the stones is because they ALL get destroyed at the same time. If any of them remained while the others were gone the imbalance would destroy everything.

The Stones still exist, just not in a form usable by people.
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keyblader1985 posted...

The time travel thing was explained as different timelines - which raises questions as to how Captain America did what he did.

This is a great point and a great example of what I was getting at in my first paragraph. Time travel as a plot device often creates little loopholes and inaccuracies.

Blighboy posted...

The way I look at it is this: If Spider-Man had friends who weren't snapped, they wouldn't have been given any screentime previously as they wouldn't be important going forward.

Well yeah, that's the real world explanation, but not the in movie reason.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

That's not actually why they do that.

I could've sworn that was a reason given. They even had that diagram/graphic of a linear path splitting of when the ancient one is explaining it to the Hulk. She did say their universe would be in peril, but I thought that removing a stone would create another timeline. I'll have to rewatch the scene someday.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Yes, as has been done multiple times in the comics.

Yeah, I know, but I would honestly prefer if the movies didn't follow exactly what the comics did. The MCU is only like 10 years old, while the comics have been around for ages, so it follows that the comics' plot devices get a little bit....wacky.... to keep things interesting.

streamofthesky posted...

And they did address it in Spider-man Far From Home, which was a really great movie and you should see it (first half is just ok, but 2nd half was fucking awesome)

I will for sure watch it eventually. Spidey is my favorite superhero, I'll watch it once it's available to rent.

SpeedDemon20 posted...

Absolutely not. That should never happen. People die when they are killed. He's gone, and people have to learn to live with that. As much as people don't like it, Death is inevitable. The fact that it will one day come means we should appreciate the people we have while they are still here. One day you won't be able to.

I totally agree, I just love RDJ as Iron Man. Imo, that was the best casting choice in the MCU.
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GanonsSpirit posted...

Pretty sure that's not what she was saying. She was saying that removing such a powerful object from a timeline will have huge consequences (e.g. Strange can't beat Dormammu), not that a timeline that's missing one of the stones will just blow up.

That was my interpretation of it as well. The universe would be at risk because the stones couldn't be used to stop threats.

@Veedrock- posted...

So much bad information in here being presented as fact, yikes.

Feel free to point out any misinformation. We're just having a discussion. Feel free to hop in.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

The snap required all six working together and still nearly killed him.

Did the snap almost kill Thanos though? he looked fine after "snapping" in Infinity War, and I thought he said that what almost killed him was destroying the infinity stones.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

The MCU has Skrulls now, so just wait until it turns out the Tony who sacrificed himself was really a Skrull, and the real Tony was abducted years earlier.

Yes, it would be somewhat fighting that Captain Marvel brought back a Skrull.

Nichtcrawler X posted...

The Stones still exist, just not in a form usable by people.

Really? How do we know that?
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green dragon posted...

Did the snap almost kill Thanos though? he looked fine after "snapping" in Infinity War, and I thought he said that what almost killed him was destroying the infinity stones.

It's hard to tell, mainly because he has an axe in him at the time. He's definitely worse for wear after, but to be fair that could also just be the wound.

That being said, the snap clearly ruins the gauntlet to some degree - you can see it and the stones look somewhat broken afterward.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

It's hard to tell, mainly because he has an axe in him at the time. He's definitely worse for wear after, but to be fair that could also just be the wound.

That being said, the snap clearly ruins the gauntlet to some degree - you can see it and the stones look somewhat broken afterward.

I know this is just being pedantic, but after the snap in IW both of his arms look fine. In endgame we see that destroying the stones burned his arm or whatever.

Maybe it has to do with the weakening of the gauntlet, but I'm almost certain Thanos said destroying the stones almost killed him
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green dragon posted...

Lastly, is the effect of Hulk's snap talked about at all in the newest spider-man movie discussed at all? I mean, all the people that died are just immediately brought back to life while everyone else's life has advanced five years. I mean, what would be the odds of all of Peter Parker's friends/classmates disappearing in the snap? It seemed like everything just went back to normal, but admittedly not much was shown at the end of Endgame

Yes, it talks about the snap a fair bit. It doesn't address all the implications, but it's there.
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I liked it 3000.
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Far from Home addresses a few of the ramifications of the snap (Thanos) and the blip (Hulk), but doesn't go into too much detail. For instance, without giving spoilers, Peter and May had to find a new place to live after someone moved into their home. May also works for a charity organization dedicated to helping people that were Blipped find new homes and get their life together.

Also, a teacher's wife pretended to be dusted and ran off with someone else. That was played for laughs, but I'm sure identity-related fraud became a problem.
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keyblader1985 posted...

Far from Home addresses a few of the ramifications of the snap (Thanos) and the blip (Hulk), but doesn't go into too much detail. For instance, without giving spoilers, Peter and May had to find a new place to live after someone moved into their home. May also works for a charity organization dedicated to helping people that were Blipped find new homes and get their life together.

That's good. Better than brushing the potential issues under the rug and pretend everything came back perfectly.
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What happened to the people who got snapped while in midair or over the Atlantic Ocean? Did they just suddenly appear thousands of miles away from land as they plummeted to their deaths?

What about the people who, say, were a passenger in a plane or car with the driver getting dusted?
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PK_Spam posted...

What happened to the people who got snapped while in midair or over the Atlantic Ocean? Did they just suddenly appear thousands of miles away from land as they plummeted to their deaths?

What about the people who, say, were a passenger in a plane or car with the driver getting dusted?

Personally I wouldn't nitpick that far. I'm just gonna accept a space wizard fixed these kinda issues.
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InfestedAdam posted...

I'm just gonna accept a space wizard fixed these kinda issues.

Professor Hulk is smart enough to have made people come back into existence at the closest possible safe spot from where they disappeared.
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Nichtcrawler X posted...

InfestedAdam posted...

I'm just gonna accept a space wizard fixed these kinda issues.

Professor Hulk is smart enough to have made people come back into existence at the closest possible safe spot from where they disappeared.

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Endgame. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Thor's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Nordin literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike the Avengers truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Thors existential catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Valkyrie's epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.
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darcandkharg31 posted...

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Endgame. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Thor's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Nordin literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike the Avengers truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Thors existential catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Valkyrie's epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

lmfao, posts like this always make me laugh
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PK_Spam posted...

What happened to the people who got snapped while in midair or over the Atlantic Ocean? Did they just suddenly appear thousands of miles away from land as they plummeted to their deaths?

What about the people who, say, were a passenger in a plane or car with the driver getting dusted?

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PK_Spam posted...

What happened to the people who got snapped while in midair or over the Atlantic Ocean? Did they just suddenly appear thousands of miles away from land as they plummeted to their deaths?

What about the people who, say, were a passenger in a plane or car with the driver getting dusted?

you literally see what happens in infinity war dude it happens in the after credits scene

come on man
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green dragon posted...

Next, some of the scenes were extremely cheesy and not in a good way. The most obvious scene would be the Hawkeye vs Blackwidow "who can out suicide the other" scene.

I thought that was one of the best scenes in the entire movie.

Infinity War was a better film by far, but Endgame is no Age of Ultron or Thor: Dark World by any means.
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