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Shablagoo 08/23/19 12:21:13 AM #1:	I choose to believe. What else do we have, ultimately, really? --- UnfairRepresent: "wut? who are you?" Ivynn: "DAYUM Shablagoo made you meltdown so hard you blocked it and him from your memory!" <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:926431793] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>I choose to believe. What else do we have, ultimately, really?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 08/23/19 12:22:04 AM #2:	Shablagoo posted... What else do we have, ultimately, really? Everything else. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:926431814] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote>What else do we have, ultimately, really?</quote> Everything else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealthRock 08/23/19 12:54:04 AM #3:	He does exist so you have nothing to worry about --- Pokemon is awesome <cite>StealthRock posted [p:926432758] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>He does exist so you have nothing to worry about</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TreyFlowers 08/23/19 12:54:29 AM #4:	Shablagoo posted... What else do we have, ultimately, really? friends, family, travel, delicious food and beer, sports --- PATRIOTS Tom Brady objectively has six rings. <cite>TreyFlowers posted [p:926432764] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote>What else do we have, ultimately, really?</quote> friends, family, travel, delicious food and beer, sports</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DaveTheUseless 08/23/19 12:55:05 AM #5:	I believe in Mr. Hankey. --- www.youtube.com/davetheuseless Creepypasta Channel. twitter.com/davetheuseless DaveTheUseless Loves You. <cite>DaveTheUseless posted [p:926432778] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>I believe in Mr. Hankey. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SapphireTech462 08/23/19 12:55:06 AM #6:	You only get one life. --- 3TEETH - METAWAR - Metal - 2019 SlipKnot - We Are Not Your Kind - Metal - 2019 <cite>SapphireTech462 posted [p:926432781] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>You only get one life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/23/19 12:59:49 AM #7:	TreyFlowers posted... Shablagoo posted... What else do we have, ultimately, really? friends, family, travel, delicious food and beer, sports Right, those things are great, but Im talking about ultimately. StealthRock posted... He does exist so you have nothing to worry about Yay! Hope so! And that they acknowledge me, lol:3 --- UnfairRepresent: "wut? who are you?" Ivynn: "DAYUM Shablagoo made you meltdown so hard you blocked it and him from your memory!" <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:926432931] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>TreyFlowers posted...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote>What else do we have, ultimately, really?</quote> friends, family, travel, delicious food and beer, sports</quote> Right, those things are great, but Im talking about ultimately. StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>He does exist so you have nothing to worry about</quote> Yay! Hope so! And that they acknowledge me, lol:3</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Disengaged 08/23/19 1:01:10 AM #8:	Not killing millions of people over imaginary bullshit? --- This is my signature. You read my signature. It sucked. <cite>Disengaged posted [p:926432975] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>Not killing millions of people over imaginary bullshit? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 08/23/19 1:05:04 AM #9:	StealthRock posted... He does exist so you have nothing to worry about So do aliens, ghosts, and a multitude of other gods. its not like the Norse Pantheon is just an allegory or anything. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:926433087] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted... </cite> <quote>He does exist so you have nothing to worry about</quote> So do aliens, ghosts, and a multitude of other gods. its not like the Norse Pantheon is just an allegory or anything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/23/19 1:06:18 AM #10:	Disengaged posted... Not killing millions of people over imaginary bullshit? Are you saying God did that? --- UnfairRepresent: "wut? who are you?" Ivynn: "DAYUM Shablagoo made you meltdown so hard you blocked it and him from your memory!" <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:926433124] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>Disengaged posted...</cite> <quote>Not killing millions of people over imaginary bullshit? </quote> Are you saying God did that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 08/23/19 1:06:38 AM #11:	Disengaged posted... Not killing millions of people over imaginary bullshit? Religion is just the excuse, hatred is reason enough to kill. But to answer TC's question, you have yourself. Believer or non-believer, you have yourself. --- This is a mobile account, forgive any errors. ~DYL~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTEX3YdEi7s <cite>Umbreon posted [p:926433134] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>Disengaged posted...</cite> <quote>Not killing millions of people over imaginary bullshit? </quote> Religion is just the excuse, hatred is reason enough to kill. But to answer TC's question, you have yourself. Believer or non-believer, you have yourself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/23/19 1:06:48 AM #12:	Zeeak4444 posted... StealthRock posted... He does exist so you have nothing to worry about So do aliens, ghosts, and a multitude of other gods. its not like the Norse Pantheon is just an allegory or anything. They are all aspects of the all-God imo --- UnfairRepresent: "wut? who are you?" Ivynn: "DAYUM Shablagoo made you meltdown so hard you blocked it and him from your memory!" <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:926433140] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted... </cite> <quote>He does exist so you have nothing to worry about</quote> So do aliens, ghosts, and a multitude of other gods. its not like the Norse Pantheon is just an allegory or anything. </quote> They are all aspects of the all-God imo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TreyFlowers 08/23/19 1:08:31 AM #13:	what do you mean ultimately --- PATRIOTS Tom Brady objectively has six rings. <cite>TreyFlowers posted [p:926433181] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>what do you mean ultimately</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/23/19 1:10:09 AM #14:	TreyFlowers posted... what do you mean ultimately Like at the end, bro. Life is fucking sad, no matter how great you are at it. Even the greatest humans have to face the final question of death. --- UnfairRepresent: "wut? who are you?" Ivynn: "DAYUM Shablagoo made you meltdown so hard you blocked it and him from your memory!" <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:926433228] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>TreyFlowers posted...</cite> <quote>what do you mean ultimately</quote> Like at the end, bro. Life is fucking sad, no matter how great you are at it. Even the greatest humans have to face the final question of death.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TreyFlowers 08/23/19 1:10:41 AM #15:	it's like sleep, forever, imo you don't know you're asleep, it's just nothingness --- PATRIOTS Tom Brady objectively has six rings. <cite>TreyFlowers posted [p:926433246] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>it's like sleep, forever, imo you don't know you're asleep, it's just nothingness</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SH_expert44 08/23/19 1:11:53 AM #16:	Why would you want god to exist? --- https://i.imgtc.ws/MAd5hwq.gif https://i.imgtc.ws/KXfrMn5.gif <cite>SH_expert44 posted [p:926433285] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>Why would you want god to exist?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/23/19 1:11:57 AM #17:	TreyFlowers posted... it's like sleep, forever, imo you don't know you're asleep, it's just nothingness It very could well be that but either way we have to face it, alive or not. --- UnfairRepresent: "wut? who are you?" Ivynn: "DAYUM Shablagoo made you meltdown so hard you blocked it and him from your memory!" <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:926433287] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>TreyFlowers posted...</cite> <quote>it's like sleep, forever, imo you don't know you're asleep, it's just nothingness</quote> It very could well be that but either way we have to face it, alive or not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TreyFlowers 08/23/19 1:13:46 AM #18:	yeah what's your point? make the best of your life while you've got it here, then sleep forever --- PATRIOTS Tom Brady objectively has six rings. <cite>TreyFlowers posted [p:926433328] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>yeah what's your point? make the best of your life while you've got it here, then sleep forever</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OwlRammer 08/23/19 1:15:15 AM #19:	Shablagoo posted... I choose to believe. What else do we have, ultimately, really? nothing but that's why I want to try hard to be able to live a nice life, that way when I eventually die and turn to nothing or whatever I at least had fun before it happened or something like that --- https://imgur.com/ji9KF3f https://imgur.com/p3G1Hvd http://puu.sh/ovZuS/97325c05b3.jpg http://puu.sh/ovZB2/eeee237f49.jpg <cite>OwlRammer posted [p:926433364] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote>I choose to believe. What else do we have, ultimately, really?</quote> nothing but that's why I want to try hard to be able to live a nice life, that way when I eventually die and turn to nothing or whatever I at least had fun before it happened or something like that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 08/23/19 1:17:04 AM #20:	Honestly not sure which concept is more scsry. Eternity, or Oblivion. --- This is a mobile account, forgive any errors. ~DYL~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTEX3YdEi7s <cite>Umbreon posted [p:926433400] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>Honestly not sure which concept is more scsry. Eternity, or Oblivion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IronChef_Kirby 08/23/19 1:18:36 AM #21:	Maybe my perception is off, but when I see people ask this, it reads something like "Without a master, who will I be a slave to?" This world holds no shortage of things to find value and meaning in. --- https://imgur.com/faC30Oe 3DS FC: 1375 7308 4517 <cite>IronChef_Kirby posted [p:926433434] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>Maybe my perception is off, but when I see people ask this, it reads something like "Without a master, who will I be a slave to?" This world holds no shortage of things to find value and meaning in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cranie 08/23/19 1:20:40 AM #22:	There is no god, life is just too random and cruel for that. <cite>Cranie posted [p:926433482] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>There is no god, life is just too random and cruel for that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 08/23/19 1:21:49 AM #23:	Disengaged posted... Not killing millions of people over imaginary bullshit? We have to kill thousands of people in the name of God, otherwise, we would have to confront the fact we are horribly twisted people! --- Time is a funny thing. There is always too much of it, except when you need it the most. Then there is never enough. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:926433503] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>Disengaged posted...</cite> <quote>Not killing millions of people over imaginary bullshit? </quote> We have to kill thousands of people in the name of God, otherwise, we would have to confront the fact we are horribly twisted people!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 08/23/19 1:25:23 AM #24:	Ultimately, what significance would you ascribe to death, even if there were an afterlife to go to? To tolerate being alive forever, you'd have to be so drastically altered that you would no longer be the person you are currently. Or you'd just have memory wipes so you could enjoy things again over and over, which is essentially a series of staggered deaths, delivered in pieces. Either way, you can't escape your level of significance, or lack thereof. Nobody can! --- I exist, kind of. Two halves that don't make a whole. Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:926433592] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>Ultimately, what significance would you ascribe to death, even if there were an afterlife to go to? To tolerate being alive forever, you'd have to be so drastically altered that you would no longer be the person you are currently. Or you'd just have memory wipes so you could enjoy things again over and over, which is essentially a series of staggered deaths, delivered in pieces. Either way, you can't escape your level of significance, or lack thereof. Nobody can!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wii_Shaker 08/23/19 1:27:34 AM #25:	Cranie posted... There is no god, life is just too random and cruel for that. Not cruel, just indifferent. And by that logic, god would be indifferent also and thus, not worth worshiping one way or another. <cite>Wii_Shaker posted [p:926433645] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>Cranie posted...</cite> <quote>There is no god, life is just too random and cruel for that.</quote> Not cruel, just indifferent. And by that logic, god would be indifferent also and thus, not worth worshiping one way or another.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RescueBC 08/23/19 2:04:19 AM #26:	Personally, I cant just choose what I believe. Its not something I can just switch on or off..I believe what evidence tells me in a given situation. RE, God: If there is a God then they went through the trouble of designing a universe that looks exactly like it happened on its own. They also planted on us on a planet orbiting a star among a sea of an unimaginable number of other uninhabited stars, such that it looks like we arose by chance. If there is a god or gods, they are either uninvolved or intentionally being deceptive in their design. I dont find it depressing though, I think its beautiful that we arose by chance. For me, it would be depressing to have been built by a being who does not care about how nice, helpful, etc or any other positive trait that I am if Im not worshipping them. That no matter what I do, the only thing that matters at the end of the day is if I have faith in him. I cant think of a more depressing existence than that. --- 3DS friend code: 5455-9623-0727 <cite>RescueBC posted [p:926434506] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>Personally, I cant just choose what I believe. Its not something I can just switch on or off..I believe what evidence tells me in a given situation. RE, God: If there is a God then they went through the trouble of designing a universe that looks exactly like it happened on its own. They also planted on us on a planet orbiting a star among a sea of an unimaginable number of other uninhabited stars, such that it looks like we arose by chance. If there is a god or gods, they are either uninvolved or intentionally being deceptive in their design. I dont find it depressing though, I think its beautiful that we arose by chance. For me, it would be depressing to have been built by a being who does not care about how nice, helpful, etc or any other positive trait that I am if Im not worshipping them. That no matter what I do, the only thing that matters at the end of the day is if I have faith in him. I cant think of a more depressing existence than that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apolloooo 08/23/19 2:08:27 AM #27:	TreyFlowers posted... Shablagoo posted... What else do we have, ultimately, really? friends, family, travel, delicious food and beer, sports This. Life is objectively meaningless, but we can find our own meaning for it. Without shackles given by deities, you are free to choose. --- http://i.imgtc.com/iJyp6bF.png http://i.imgtc.com/ZBw36Qh.png Thanks for the peeps that made the pics <3 if i make typos it means i am on phone <cite>apolloooo posted [p:926434611] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>TreyFlowers posted...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote>What else do we have, ultimately, really?</quote> friends, family, travel, delicious food and beer, sports</quote> This. Life is objectively meaningless, but we can find our own meaning for it. Without shackles given by deities, you are free to choose.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TreyFlowers 08/23/19 2:08:39 AM #28:	RescueBC posted... Personally, I cant just choose what I believe. Its not something I can just switch on or off..I believe what evidence tells me in a given situation. RE, God: If there is a God then they went through the trouble of designing a universe that looks exactly like it happened on its own. They also planted on us on a planet orbiting a star among a sea of an unimaginable number of other uninhabited stars, such that it looks like we arose by chance. If there is a god or gods, they are either uninvolved or intentionally being deceptive in their design. I dont find it depressing though, I think its beautiful that we arose by chance. For me, it would be depressing to have been built by a being who does not care about how nice, helpful, etc or any other positive trait that I am if Im not worshipping them. That no matter what I do, the only thing that matters at the end of the day is if I have faith in him. I cant think of a more depressing existence than that. You've written what I've tried to explain for 28 (nearly 29) years. Nailed it --- PATRIOTS Tom Brady objectively has six rings. <cite>TreyFlowers posted [p:926434614] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>RescueBC posted...</cite> <quote>Personally, I cant just choose what I believe. Its not something I can just switch on or off..I believe what evidence tells me in a given situation. RE, God: If there is a God then they went through the trouble of designing a universe that looks exactly like it happened on its own. They also planted on us on a planet orbiting a star among a sea of an unimaginable number of other uninhabited stars, such that it looks like we arose by chance. If there is a god or gods, they are either uninvolved or intentionally being deceptive in their design. I dont find it depressing though, I think its beautiful that we arose by chance. For me, it would be depressing to have been built by a being who does not care about how nice, helpful, etc or any other positive trait that I am if Im not worshipping them. That no matter what I do, the only thing that matters at the end of the day is if I have faith in him. I cant think of a more depressing existence than that.</quote> You've written what I've tried to explain for 28 (nearly 29) years. Nailed it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealthRock 08/23/19 2:11:19 AM #29:	RescueBC posted... Personally, I cant just choose what I believe. Its not something I can just switch on or off..I believe what evidence tells me in a given situation. RE, God: If there is a God then they went through the trouble of designing a universe that looks exactly like it happened on its own. They also planted on us on a planet orbiting a star among a sea of an unimaginable number of other uninhabited stars, such that it looks like we arose by chance. If there is a god or gods, they are either uninvolved or intentionally being deceptive in their design. I dont find it depressing though, I think its beautiful that we arose by chance. For me, it would be depressing to have been built by a being who does not care about how nice, helpful, etc or any other positive trait that I am if Im not worshipping them. That no matter what I do, the only thing that matters at the end of the day is if I have faith in him. I cant think of a more depressing existence than that. Your message sounds like you dont know about God. God created you with free will. However, compared to him, you are not good. So the only way to be "good" in the godly sense is to rely on him to make you that way. If you could do it yourself the there wouldnt be a need for God nor would he be as holy and great as he is. No matter how well behaved or "good" a man is, he still has flaws and does bad things. No one is all good. Doesnt matter how nice they are --- Pokemon is awesome <cite>StealthRock posted [p:926434679] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>RescueBC posted...</cite> <quote>Personally, I cant just choose what I believe. Its not something I can just switch on or off..I believe what evidence tells me in a given situation. RE, God: If there is a God then they went through the trouble of designing a universe that looks exactly like it happened on its own. They also planted on us on a planet orbiting a star among a sea of an unimaginable number of other uninhabited stars, such that it looks like we arose by chance. If there is a god or gods, they are either uninvolved or intentionally being deceptive in their design. I dont find it depressing though, I think its beautiful that we arose by chance. For me, it would be depressing to have been built by a being who does not care about how nice, helpful, etc or any other positive trait that I am if Im not worshipping them. That no matter what I do, the only thing that matters at the end of the day is if I have faith in him. I cant think of a more depressing existence than that.</quote> Your message sounds like you dont know about God. God created you with free will. However, compared to him, you are not good. So the only way to be "good" in the godly sense is to rely on him to make you that way. If you could do it yourself the there wouldnt be a need for God nor would he be as holy and great as he is. No matter how well behaved or "good" a man is, he still has flaws and does bad things. No one is all good. Doesnt matter how nice they are</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 08/23/19 2:17:35 AM #30:	People focused on the cruelty of life, do not forget it's beauty as well. We are capable of wonderful and terrible things. We have the will to decide which we give upon the world. --- This is a mobile account, forgive any errors. ~DYL~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTEX3YdEi7s <cite>Umbreon posted [p:926434817] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>People focused on the cruelty of life, do not forget it's beauty as well. We are capable of wonderful and terrible things. We have the will to decide which we give upon the world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banjo2553 08/23/19 2:22:28 AM #31:	008Zulu posted... Disengaged posted... Not killing millions of people over imaginary bullshit? We have to kill thousands of people in the name of God, otherwise, we would have to confront the fact we are horribly twisted people! I mean, there'd still be other reasons people use to start wars and kill, so it's not like blaming religion and theorizing if the world would be better without it is gonna solve anything. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>Banjo2553 posted [p:926434918] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>008Zulu posted...</cite> <quote>Disengaged posted...</cite> <quote>Not killing millions of people over imaginary bullshit? </quote> We have to kill thousands of people in the name of God, otherwise, we would have to confront the fact we are horribly twisted people!</quote> I mean, there'd still be other reasons people use to start wars and kill, so it's not like blaming religion and theorizing if the world would be better without it is gonna solve anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 08/23/19 2:23:07 AM #32:	StealthRock posted... Your message sounds like you dont know about God. God created you with free will. However, compared to him, you are not good. So the only way to be "good" in the godly sense is to rely on him to make you that way. If you could do it yourself the there wouldnt be a need for God nor would he be as holy and great as he is. No matter how well behaved or "good" a man is, he still has flaws and does bad things. No one is all good. Doesnt matter how nice they are Most people have never done as ungood things as murdering the first born of Egypt, drowning the world, slaughtering the people of Canaan just because they happened to live on a piece of uninhabited land that had arbitrarily and unknown been marked for other people by God, forcing your chosen people to wander the desert for 40 years despite their destination being a fairly short distance from their starting point. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:926434931] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote> StealthRock posted... </cite> <quote>Your message sounds like you dont know about God. God created you with free will. However, compared to him, you are not good. So the only way to be "good" in the godly sense is to rely on him to make you that way. If you could do it yourself the there wouldnt be a need for God nor would he be as holy and great as he is. No matter how well behaved or "good" a man is, he still has flaws and does bad things. No one is all good. Doesnt matter how nice they are</quote>Most people have never done as ungood things as murdering the first born of Egypt, drowning the world, slaughtering the people of Canaan just because they happened to live on a piece of uninhabited land that had arbitrarily and unknown been marked for other people by God, forcing your chosen people to wander the desert for 40 years despite their destination being a fairly short distance from their starting point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
closetjpopfan 08/23/19 2:26:40 AM #33:	RescueBC posted... If there is a god or gods, they are either uninvolved or intentionally being deceptive in their design. For me, it would be depressing to have been built by a being who does not care about how nice, helpful, etc or any other positive trait that I am if Im not worshipping them. It's not deceptive if their design simply doesn't include self-reference. Considering it could radically change the nature of the design. And specially if it's ultimately revealed. Perhaps you can't exactly choose what to believe in, but you can certainly choose to be intellectually miserly, let's call it unimaginative in what you choose to believe COULD be. <cite>closetjpopfan posted [p:926435000] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>RescueBC posted...</cite> <quote> If there is a god or gods, they are either uninvolved or intentionally being deceptive in their design. For me, it would be depressing to have been built by a being who does not care about how nice, helpful, etc or any other positive trait that I am if Im not worshipping them.</quote> It's not deceptive if their design simply doesn't include self-reference. Considering it could radically change the nature of the design. And specially if it's ultimately revealed. Perhaps you can't exactly choose what to believe in, but you can certainly choose to be intellectually miserly, let's call it unimaginative in what you choose to believe COULD be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
closetjpopfan 08/23/19 2:30:31 AM #34:	DeadBankerDream posted... Most people have never done as ungood things as murdering the first born of Egypt, drowning the world, slaughtering the people of Canaan just because they happened to live on a piece of uninhabited land that had arbitrarily and unknown been marked for other people by God, forcing your chosen people to wander the desert for 40 years despite their destination being a fairly short distance from their starting point. Talk about a straw man argument. <cite>closetjpopfan posted [p:926435068] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted...</cite> <quote>Most people have never done as ungood things as murdering the first born of Egypt, drowning the world, slaughtering the people of Canaan just because they happened to live on a piece of uninhabited land that had arbitrarily and unknown been marked for other people by God, forcing your chosen people to wander the desert for 40 years despite their destination being a fairly short distance from their starting point. </quote> Talk about a straw man argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cranie 08/23/19 2:30:40 AM #35:	I like the idea more that humanity and life in general is the universes' way of observing itself. There is no god though, we are all connected by "spooky action at a distance" to form the universal consciousness. <cite>Cranie posted [p:926435074] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>I like the idea more that humanity and life in general is the universes' way of observing itself. There is no god though, we are all connected by "spooky action at a distance" to form the universal consciousness.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealthRock 08/23/19 2:31:25 AM #36:	DeadBankerDream posted... StealthRock posted... Your message sounds like you dont know about God. God created you with free will. However, compared to him, you are not good. So the only way to be "good" in the godly sense is to rely on him to make you that way. If you could do it yourself the there wouldnt be a need for God nor would he be as holy and great as he is. No matter how well behaved or "good" a man is, he still has flaws and does bad things. No one is all good. Doesnt matter how nice they are Most people have never done as ungood things as murdering the first born of Egypt, drowning the world, slaughtering the people of Canaan just because they happened to live on a piece of uninhabited land that had arbitrarily and unknown been marked for other people by God, forcing your chosen people to wander the desert for 40 years despite their destination being a fairly short distance from their starting point. When talking about bible stories context is everything The egytian plagues were due to Pharoahs arrogance. Had he just let the hebrew slaves go, none of that woukd have happened. A good lesson in life for consequences to our own arrogance The chosen people wandered the dessert because they also didnt listen and immediately took to worshipping false Gods after God had liberated them. So they missed out on all the wonderful promises God made due to their own stupidity and ungratefulness. They couldve simply not done those things and they would have been living large. --- Pokemon is awesome <cite>StealthRock posted [p:926435088] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted...</cite> <quote> StealthRock posted... </cite> <quote>Your message sounds like you dont know about God. God created you with free will. However, compared to him, you are not good. So the only way to be "good" in the godly sense is to rely on him to make you that way. If you could do it yourself the there wouldnt be a need for God nor would he be as holy and great as he is. No matter how well behaved or "good" a man is, he still has flaws and does bad things. No one is all good. Doesnt matter how nice they are</quote>Most people have never done as ungood things as murdering the first born of Egypt, drowning the world, slaughtering the people of Canaan just because they happened to live on a piece of uninhabited land that had arbitrarily and unknown been marked for other people by God, forcing your chosen people to wander the desert for 40 years despite their destination being a fairly short distance from their starting point. </quote> When talking about bible stories context is everything The egytian plagues were due to Pharoahs arrogance. Had he just let the hebrew slaves go, none of that woukd have happened. A good lesson in life for consequences to our own arrogance The chosen people wandered the dessert because they also didnt listen and immediately took to worshipping false Gods after God had liberated them. So they missed out on all the wonderful promises God made due to their own stupidity and ungratefulness. They couldve simply not done those things and they would have been living large.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
closetjpopfan 08/23/19 2:36:07 AM #37:	IronChef_Kirby posted... Maybe my perception is off, but when I see people ask this, it reads something like "Without a master, who will I be a slave to?" apolloooo posted... This. Life is objectively meaningless, but we can find our own meaning for it. Without shackles given by deities, you are free to choose. For not believing in a deity you're certainly quick to ascribe to them the worse character of human beings. Where did you get that you have to be a slave or somehow shackled? I understand that a lot of religions portray deities with such characters, but again I don't think the question here is whether you agree with any religion in particular or at all. <cite>closetjpopfan posted [p:926435170] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>IronChef_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe my perception is off, but when I see people ask this, it reads something like "Without a master, who will I be a slave to?"</quote> apolloooo posted...</cite> <quote>This. Life is objectively meaningless, but we can find our own meaning for it. Without shackles given by deities, you are free to choose.</quote> For not believing in a deity you're certainly quick to ascribe to them the worse character of human beings. Where did you get that you have to be a slave or somehow shackled? I understand that a lot of religions portray deities with such characters, but again I don't think the question here is whether you agree with any religion in particular or at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/23/19 2:51:50 AM #38:	OwlRammer posted... Shablagoo posted... I choose to believe. What else do we have, ultimately, really? nothing but that's why I want to try hard to be able to live a nice life, that way when I eventually die and turn to nothing or whatever I at least had fun before it happened or something like that Exactly, lol.:) So everyone, let me be a fool & hope. --- UnfairRepresent: "wut? who are you?" Ivynn: "DAYUM Shablagoo made you meltdown so hard you blocked it and him from your memory!" <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:926435423] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>OwlRammer posted...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote>I choose to believe. What else do we have, ultimately, really?</quote> nothing but that's why I want to try hard to be able to live a nice life, that way when I eventually die and turn to nothing or whatever I at least had fun before it happened or something like that</quote> Exactly, lol.:) So everyone, let me be a fool & hope.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 08/23/19 2:57:26 AM #39:	Shablagoo posted... OwlRammer posted... Shablagoo posted... I choose to believe. What else do we have, ultimately, really? nothing but that's why I want to try hard to be able to live a nice life, that way when I eventually die and turn to nothing or whatever I at least had fun before it happened or something like that Exactly, lol.:) So everyone, let me be a fool & hope. Belief isn't really a choice, but you are definitely hoping. --- I exist, kind of. Two halves that don't make a whole. Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:926435520] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote>OwlRammer posted...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote>I choose to believe. What else do we have, ultimately, really?</quote> nothing but that's why I want to try hard to be able to live a nice life, that way when I eventually die and turn to nothing or whatever I at least had fun before it happened or something like that</quote> Exactly, lol.:) So everyone, let me be a fool & hope.</quote> Belief isn't really a choice, but you are definitely hoping.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 08/23/19 4:13:40 AM #40:	StealthRock posted... Your message sounds like you dont know about God. God created you with free will. However, compared to him, you are not good. So the only way to be "good" in the godly sense is to rely on him to make you that way. If you could do it yourself the there wouldnt be a need for God nor would he be as holy and great as he is. No matter how well behaved or "good" a man is, he still has flaws and does bad things. No one is all good. Doesnt matter how nice they are What a contrived set of stipulations just to justify belief. IMO ofc. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:926436789] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted... </cite> <quote>Your message sounds like you dont know about God. God created you with free will. However, compared to him, you are not good. So the only way to be "good" in the godly sense is to rely on him to make you that way. If you could do it yourself the there wouldnt be a need for God nor would he be as holy and great as he is. No matter how well behaved or "good" a man is, he still has flaws and does bad things. No one is all good. Doesnt matter how nice they are</quote> What a contrived set of stipulations just to justify belief. IMO ofc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RescueBC 08/23/19 4:15:28 AM #41:	TreyFlowers posted... RescueBC posted... Personally, I cant just choose what I believe. Its not something I can just switch on or off..I believe what evidence tells me in a given situation. RE, God: If there is a God then they went through the trouble of designing a universe that looks exactly like it happened on its own. They also planted on us on a planet orbiting a star among a sea of an unimaginable number of other uninhabited stars, such that it looks like we arose by chance. If there is a god or gods, they are either uninvolved or intentionally being deceptive in their design. I dont find it depressing though, I think its beautiful that we arose by chance. For me, it would be depressing to have been built by a being who does not care about how nice, helpful, etc or any other positive trait that I am if Im not worshipping them. That no matter what I do, the only thing that matters at the end of the day is if I have faith in him. I cant think of a more depressing existence than that. You've written what I've tried to explain for 28 (nearly 29) years. Nailed it StealthRock posted... RescueBC posted... Personally, I cant just choose what I believe. Its not something I can just switch on or off..I believe what evidence tells me in a given situation. RE, God: If there is a God then they went through the trouble of designing a universe that looks exactly like it happened on its own. They also planted on us on a planet orbiting a star among a sea of an unimaginable number of other uninhabited stars, such that it looks like we arose by chance. If there is a god or gods, they are either uninvolved or intentionally being deceptive in their design. I dont find it depressing though, I think its beautiful that we arose by chance. For me, it would be depressing to have been built by a being who does not care about how nice, helpful, etc or any other positive trait that I am if Im not worshipping them. That no matter what I do, the only thing that matters at the end of the day is if I have faith in him. I cant think of a more depressing existence than that. Your message sounds like you dont know about God. God created you with free will. However, compared to him, you are not good. So the only way to be "good" in the godly sense is to rely on him to make you that way. If you could do it yourself the there wouldnt be a need for God nor would he be as holy and great as he is. No matter how well behaved or "good" a man is, he still has flaws and does bad things. No one is all good. Doesnt matter how nice they are I was raised a fundamental Christian and used to be one. I know all about God. Lol The problem is that all of your claims about the nature of good and having flaws are all unsubstantiated. You claim that there exists an all-good being as if good and bad are not subjective to the person assessing the action/being. I mean the Christian God did what I consider to be some pretty horrendous things in comparison to anything Ive ever done. I wouldnt consider what he did to be morally good just because he had the power to throw anyone who disagreed with him into hell. --- 3DS friend code: 5455-9623-0727 <cite>RescueBC posted [p:926436813] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>TreyFlowers posted...</cite> <quote>RescueBC posted...</cite> <quote>Personally, I cant just choose what I believe. Its not something I can just switch on or off..I believe what evidence tells me in a given situation. RE, God: If there is a God then they went through the trouble of designing a universe that looks exactly like it happened on its own. They also planted on us on a planet orbiting a star among a sea of an unimaginable number of other uninhabited stars, such that it looks like we arose by chance. If there is a god or gods, they are either uninvolved or intentionally being deceptive in their design. I dont find it depressing though, I think its beautiful that we arose by chance. For me, it would be depressing to have been built by a being who does not care about how nice, helpful, etc or any other positive trait that I am if Im not worshipping them. That no matter what I do, the only thing that matters at the end of the day is if I have faith in him. I cant think of a more depressing existence than that.</quote> You've written what I've tried to explain for 28 (nearly 29) years. Nailed it</quote> StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>RescueBC posted...</cite> <quote>Personally, I cant just choose what I believe. Its not something I can just switch on or off..I believe what evidence tells me in a given situation. RE, God: If there is a God then they went through the trouble of designing a universe that looks exactly like it happened on its own. They also planted on us on a planet orbiting a star among a sea of an unimaginable number of other uninhabited stars, such that it looks like we arose by chance. If there is a god or gods, they are either uninvolved or intentionally being deceptive in their design. I dont find it depressing though, I think its beautiful that we arose by chance. For me, it would be depressing to have been built by a being who does not care about how nice, helpful, etc or any other positive trait that I am if Im not worshipping them. That no matter what I do, the only thing that matters at the end of the day is if I have faith in him. I cant think of a more depressing existence than that.</quote> Your message sounds like you dont know about God. God created you with free will. However, compared to him, you are not good. So the only way to be "good" in the godly sense is to rely on him to make you that way. If you could do it yourself the there wouldnt be a need for God nor would he be as holy and great as he is. No matter how well behaved or "good" a man is, he still has flaws and does bad things. No one is all good. Doesnt matter how nice they are</quote> I was raised a fundamental Christian and used to be one. I know all about God. Lol The problem is that all of your claims about the nature of good and having flaws are all unsubstantiated. You claim that there exists an all-good being as if good and bad are not subjective to the person assessing the action/being. I mean the Christian God did what I consider to be some pretty horrendous things in comparison to anything Ive ever done. I wouldnt consider what he did to be morally good just because he had the power to throw anyone who disagreed with him into hell. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RescueBC 08/23/19 4:16:48 AM #42:	closetjpopfan posted... RescueBC posted... If there is a god or gods, they are either uninvolved or intentionally being deceptive in their design. For me, it would be depressing to have been built by a being who does not care about how nice, helpful, etc or any other positive trait that I am if Im not worshipping them. It's not deceptive if their design simply doesn't include self-reference. Considering it could radically change the nature of the design. And specially if it's ultimately revealed. Perhaps you can't exactly choose what to believe in, but you can certainly choose to be intellectually miserly, let's call it unimaginative in what you choose to believe COULD be. I dont claim to know every possibility that could theoretically exist but theres a difference between thinking something could POSSIBLY exist and believing that it indeed does exist. --- 3DS friend code: 5455-9623-0727 <cite>RescueBC posted [p:926436832] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>closetjpopfan posted...</cite> <quote>RescueBC posted...</cite> <quote> If there is a god or gods, they are either uninvolved or intentionally being deceptive in their design. For me, it would be depressing to have been built by a being who does not care about how nice, helpful, etc or any other positive trait that I am if Im not worshipping them.</quote> It's not deceptive if their design simply doesn't include self-reference. Considering it could radically change the nature of the design. And specially if it's ultimately revealed. Perhaps you can't exactly choose what to believe in, but you can certainly choose to be intellectually miserly, let's call it unimaginative in what you choose to believe COULD be.</quote> I dont claim to know every possibility that could theoretically exist but theres a difference between thinking something could POSSIBLY exist and believing that it indeed does exist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IronChef_Kirby 08/23/19 9:19:38 AM #43:	closetjpopfan posted... For not believing in a deity you're certainly quick to ascribe to them the worse character of human beings. Where did you get that you have to be a slave or somehow shackled? I made no comment on the nature of gods, just the dedication of ones life to them. If ones life is said to be pointless without devotion to gods, that sounds pretty shackling to me. --- https://imgur.com/faC30Oe 3DS FC: 1375 7308 4517 <cite>IronChef_Kirby posted [p:926441862] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>closetjpopfan posted...</cite> <quote>For not believing in a deity you're certainly quick to ascribe to them the worse character of human beings. Where did you get that you have to be a slave or somehow shackled?</quote> I made no comment on the nature of gods, just the dedication of ones life to them. If ones life is said to be pointless without devotion to gods, that sounds pretty shackling to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CRON 08/23/19 9:21:18 AM #44:	Shablagoo posted... I choose to believe. What else do we have, ultimately, really? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth --- ~ (obligatory signature) ~ <cite>CRON posted [p:926441917] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote>I choose to believe. What else do we have, ultimately, really?</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SquantoZ 08/23/19 9:27:21 AM #45:	I will always struggle between trying to believe in a God and with trying to rationalize the pointless existence of a universe that somehow was born out of nothingness. Both don't make sense to me. Life is sad for most people and God allows it if he exists. On the other side, if no god exists, then existence is literally a pointless accident in a universe that "created itself". Like none of it makes sense and it's depressing. --- http://imgon.net/di-GSSE.gif https://imgur.com/FoV5u <cite>SquantoZ posted [p:926442059] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>I will always struggle between trying to believe in a God and with trying to rationalize the pointless existence of a universe that somehow was born out of nothingness. Both don't make sense to me. Life is sad for most people and God allows it if he exists. On the other side, if no god exists, then existence is literally a pointless accident in a universe that "created itself". Like none of it makes sense and it's depressing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 08/23/19 9:28:53 AM #46:	It is. Some people are like "embrace humanity instead of fearing the end" or whatever to find meaning in life but to me that doesn't erase the inevitable. Religion's primary purpose is to reassure humans that death is not the end, even though I feel terribly weighted down by the notion that it probably is. --- "Imagine a world where hypothetical situations didn't exist..." <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:926442094] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>It is. Some people are like "embrace humanity instead of fearing the end" or whatever to find meaning in life but to me that doesn't erase the inevitable. Religion's primary purpose is to reassure humans that death is not the end, even though I feel terribly weighted down by the notion that it probably is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apolloooo 08/23/19 10:47:31 AM #47:	Solid Sonic posted... It is. Some people are like "embrace humanity instead of fearing the end" or whatever to find meaning in life but to me that doesn't erase the inevitable. Religion's primary purpose is to reassure humans that death is not the end, even though I feel terribly weighted down by the notion that it probably is. Honestly non existence isn't so bad really. My only wish is just when i die, it is painless --- http://i.imgtc.com/iJyp6bF.png http://i.imgtc.com/ZBw36Qh.png Thanks for the peeps that made the pics <3 if i make typos it means i am on phone <cite>apolloooo posted [p:926444573] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>Solid Sonic posted...</cite> <quote>It is. Some people are like "embrace humanity instead of fearing the end" or whatever to find meaning in life but to me that doesn't erase the inevitable. Religion's primary purpose is to reassure humans that death is not the end, even though I feel terribly weighted down by the notion that it probably is.</quote> Honestly non existence isn't so bad really. My only wish is just when i die, it is painless</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YokoGeri 08/23/19 10:53:58 AM #49:	Shablagoo posted... I choose to believe. What else do we have, ultimately, really? I think he does too <cite>YokoGeri posted [p:926444787] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote>I choose to believe. What else do we have, ultimately, really?</quote> I think he does too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
closetjpopfan 08/23/19 5:30:45 PM #50:	RescueBC posted... I dont claim to know every possibility that could theoretically exist but theres a difference between thinking something could POSSIBLY exist and believing that it indeed does exist. Good, I would say that anyone who claims to know the ultimate reality about everything is at best seriously deluded, don't you think? But that's just what atheists do. By completely discarding the possibility of some sort of deity existing they're making a huge assumption about reality. And yet there is no argument strong enough to make you completely discard the possibility of some sort of deity existing. It's quite simply intellectual irresponsibility to do so. It's much more sensible, not to mention interesting, to allow for the possibility and explore the possibility. Which sort of deity can we actually rule out, and which not? More importantly, why can we rule these out and not others? And what exactly would be the implications of such a deity existing? You don't have to immediately commit to the idea, you know. And certainly not to any specifics of it. <cite>closetjpopfan posted [p:926460539] in If God doe... [t:77958229]...</cite> <quote>RescueBC posted...</cite> <quote>I dont claim to know every possibility that could theoretically exist but theres a difference between thinking something could POSSIBLY exist and believing that it indeed does exist.</quote> Good, I would say that anyone who claims to know the ultimate reality about everything is at best seriously deluded, don't you think? But that's just what atheists do. By completely discarding the possibility of some sort of deity existing they're making a huge assumption about reality. And yet there is no argument strong enough to make you completely discard the possibility of some sort of deity existing. It's quite simply intellectual irresponsibility to do so. It's much more sensible, not to mention interesting, to allow for the possibility and explore the possibility. Which sort of deity can we actually rule out, and which not? More importantly, why can we rule these out and not others? And what exactly would be the implications of such a deity existing? You don't have to immediately commit to the idea, you know. And certainly not to any specifics of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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