Board 8 > Gauntlet Crew Ranks the Cowboy Bebop Episodes

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JONALEON1
08/20/19 4:54:41 PM
#51:


Outlier

Wickle - 30
Stifled - 24
Johnbobb - 22
Snake - 21
Karo - 16
charon - 13
scarlet - 10
Gen - 9
JONA - 9
KBM - 7
Inviso - 6
Ermine - 5

Stifled tries to play catch-up, but it's still Wickle who rides off into the sunset as the leader of outlier.
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Zigzagoon
08/20/19 5:01:00 PM
#52:


Is this the first time I've been the solo bottom of outlier?

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StifledSilence
08/20/19 5:08:00 PM
#53:


JONALEON1 posted...
Boogie Woogie is referenced in The Real Folk Blues Part 1, with Vicious's betrayal being predicted by a fortuneteller. Meifa's dad is basically a parallel to Spike with him being someone who who left the syndicate and someone who leaves the people he love in order to protect them.

Meifa joining the crew doesn't make any sense. What could you possibly do with her? The impact of Hard Luck Woman would be lost if Meifa was still around.


I just threw out joining the crew as an option, but I would have preferred a recurring role or something. They spent a whole episode building her up for basically nothing.

I do like that explanation of the dad being a parallel to Spike though.

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StifledSilence
08/20/19 5:08:58 PM
#54:


Also dammit guys. I kinda figured I'd be the only person to put Cowboy Funk in the top ten, but I didn't suspect it would hit bottom three. Boooooo

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NBIceman
08/20/19 5:16:45 PM
#55:


I never liked that episode either, 24 is a fine place for it. Spike just doesn't feel right for the entire episode, and while I realize it's kind of the point to take him out of his element a bit it just doesn't connect with me.
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Zigzagoon
08/20/19 5:21:02 PM
#56:


I think the worst part for me was everyone being like. "Oh my god Spike he's just like you!"... when Spike is nothing like Andy at all and the writers tanked Spike's character to TRY to make it seem like it. Really just awful.
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StifledSilence
08/20/19 5:24:01 PM
#57:


Andy is what Spike is at his worst. And seeing that right in front of him drives Spike to lose his cool and want to fight Andy.

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PrinceKaro
08/20/19 5:31:36 PM
#58:


when is Spike ever an imbecilic narcissist?
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StifledSilence
08/20/19 5:41:16 PM
#59:


PrinceKaro posted...
when is Spike ever an imbecilic narcissist?


During the time we see him, he isn't. But I suspect he might have been to some extent in the Syndicate.

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v_charon
08/20/19 7:36:33 PM
#60:


Andy is charming in a stupid way, but I agree that overall he isn't much like Spike.
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Snake5555555555
08/20/19 7:54:09 PM
#61:


It's like I mentioned in my write-up, Andy is what happens I think if Spike were ever left unchecked. It's a parody amd satire of Spike's character traits. Andy deliberately invokes the role of a literal "space cowboy" so obviously the intention to compare Spike and Andy is certainly there.

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Zigzagoon
08/20/19 7:56:48 PM
#62:


I think I just disagree with that, at least with how Andy was written, I do not think thats what a unchecked Spike would be like
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Johnbobb
08/20/19 9:25:21 PM
#63:


man I get not liking the plot of the episode but Andy was the best part of it
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JONALEON1
08/20/19 11:34:23 PM
#64:


23. Stray Dog Strut
Total: 216 pts.

Ermine - 1
Inviso - 14
Karo - 15
Stifled - 16
Gen - 18
KBM - 19
Wickle - 19
charon - 21
Johnbobb - 22
JONA - 23
Snake - 23
scarlet - 24

Ermine - Man this episode was awesome. Maybe a bit fast paced but there was so many fun things going on. Obviously Ein is a VERY GOOD BOI. Humor was top notch this ep, laughed out loud at least 4-5 times. Why did that guy throw fruit at Ein in the chase scene?! LOL Every chase scene in that episode was fantastic. Just great all around, tons of fun. Spike loses points for NOT LIKING EIN.

One thing in particular I think that was worth noting is that the visual humor, at least in this episode was top notch. Ein hopping up on the steering wheel and just pressing buttons was too much for me.

9.5/10

Inviso - This is the kind of episode that should have started the series. Not that its AMAZING or anything, but its just livelier and has more fun going on with its plot than anything else. Its like a new season of Doctor Who. The first few episodes should always be light and airy and fun, even if theyre nothing too special. That way the fans can get acclimated to the new season before you start throwing the deeper, headier episodes at them. For its use of a corgi as a central character, this episode is fun and cute, and Im okay with that.

Karo - Our heroes are after a dognapper who they hunt down in a lot of comedic chase scenes with a lot of FrankerZ and OhMyDog.
Though it is quite funny there is still not a lot of depth to it, its just everyone running mindlessly around Mars for most of the duration of the episode.

Stifled - Cowboy Bebop checks a lot of boxes of things I enjoy. In this episode, there is an exciting chase scene, which I love. For example, the scene in Casino Royale where Bond chases down the bomb maker is one of my favorites in that franchise. Likewise, the big chase with Spike going after Hakim is excellent. All of the trouble just for either party to acquire a data dog is something the John Wick writers must have gotten a chubby over. While Ein himself cant really add much except barks and button presses, this is a fantastic debut episode for him.

Gen - This session is just a lot of fun, proving that even a serious anime can have lighthearted filler, and introduces Ein the good boy. There's really not much to discuss so I'll just list off a few personal highlights instead: the quirky pet shop owners who calls the animals she sells her "babies", Peeko the bird's accurate fortune telling and his owner not getting paid for it, the dog whistle chase scene, and the sacrifice Spike makes saving the dog instead of catching Hakim despite that resulting in him not only missing out on the bounty but also gaining an animal (which he doesn't like).

KBM - One of the lighter, goofier episodes of the series, this suffers from slightly nebulous stakes and a super stereotypical '90s Black Thug archetype of a villain who's just not very interesting at all. On the plus side, there are some very funny isolated bits of humor, and Ein the adorable corgi makes his first appearance, but the boring villain and the procedural feel of the story left me a little cold.

Wickle - A Welsh Corgi appears, constant chasing happens. Wickle gets triggered by the mispronunciation of the word Sayonara. That damn TV show.
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JONALEON1
08/20/19 11:34:25 PM
#65:


charon - Ein's one lone episode is just kinda there. You learn a little about what he is and how, but then it's never really thought of much after this is all over. Though this isn't a critique of the episode so much as the entire arc I guess; why if Ein was worth going after so hard then is he never sought after again by anyone else? The supporting cast here isn't really interesting, and while there are some fun moments with Spike that's really all there is to this episode.

Johnbobb - Ein is great. The whole thing felt a little on the silly side, but it worked for what it was.

Mickayla's thoughts:
Ein's a baby but this is just one of those intro episodes that by all means is still good, but as you care more about the characters it just kind of goes down in the grand scheme of things and that's okay.
25/26

JONA - This episode introduces Ein, the data dog and yeah, he's cute. He also gets to show some of his intellect here with his actions. This is also the first appearance of the show, Big Shot, and I always found that recurring segment to be pretty entertaining. Abdul Hakim is a pretty cool expy of Kareem Adul-Jabaar and makes a good contrast to Spike's Bruce Lee. There's another Bruce Lee reference with the nunchaku saying it was a "Way of the Dragon" model. He has some entertaining actions, like crushing a guy's jaw (those were some painful sounds) and then forcing a drink on him with a bug in it, rising from the water with such a serious face and then asking the kids what time it was, and also punching that groom and then taking the couple's vehicle. The chase scenes are good fun and it was funny seeing all the animals that were in that shop. The lab guys had a pretty funny line with the dog whistle. Faye also has a cliched but still cool monologue for the preview of Honky Tonk Women. Just a fun episode.

Snake - I immediately like this show better. A stronger, if goofier, main antagonist crafts a fun tone that feels more natural to Bebop than the pilots juggling act. The corgi is a cute central macguffin and Im excited to have him as part of the main crew. The comedy is just a lot stronger and I found myself laughing quite a bit especially at some of the bit characters.

scarlet - Crazy pet shop hijinks! A 30s style caper episode focused around Bringing Up Corgi; while its enjoyable enough, I think there are a host of better episodes in this series. Theres just not a lot to sink my teeth into here.
Rating: 74/100
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Zigzagoon
08/20/19 11:34:57 PM
#66:


Zigzagoon posted...
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Zigzagoon
08/20/19 11:40:22 PM
#67:


The Big Charon posted...
You learn a little about what he is and how, but then it's never really thought of much after this is all over. Though this isn't a critique of the episode so much as the entire arc I guess; why if Ein was worth going after so hard then is he never sought after again by anyone else?

I will agree with this though. I think Ein's potential is completely wasted in this anime. Maybe part of that comes from it only being 26 episodes and they needed more time for the more main characters but still. We only get a brief glance at some of the things Ein could provide from Brain Scratch.

Still a very good boi though.
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JONALEON1
08/21/19 12:13:13 AM
#68:


Outlier

Wickle - 34
Stifled - 31
Ermine - 27
Karo - 24
Johnbobb - 23
Snake - 21
charon - 15
Inviso - 15
Gen - 14
KBM - 11
scarlet - 11
JONA - 9

Ermein takes a long jump into outlier but it is still Wickle who remains the top dog.
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JONALEON1
08/21/19 12:16:08 AM
#69:


charon posted...
why if Ein was worth going after so hard then is he never sought after again by anyone else?


Well, people would have to know that Ein is even on the Bebop in the first place. He never ends up going outside the ship besides in Mushroom Samba.
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StifledSilence
08/21/19 12:36:25 AM
#70:


Aww poor woof woof.

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v_charon
08/21/19 12:38:25 AM
#71:


I guess that's true, but people always have a way of finding each other in the show and in anime in general. Logic isn't exactly a dictating force in this show or most others.
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Snake5555555555
08/21/19 3:55:39 AM
#72:


Seems that way.

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JONALEON1
08/21/19 4:36:10 PM
#73:


22. Heavy Metal Queen
Total: 214 pts.

Johnbobb - 5
Stifled - 5
Ermine - 10
Wickle - 14
KBM - 17
JONA - 21
Inviso - 22
Snake - 22
scarlet - 23
Gen - 24
charon - 25
Karo - 26

Johnbobb - This episode became an immediate favorite for me. I love the music, I love VT, I love the drunken master vibes in the bar fight, and I love the character interactions here. While it doesn't rewrite the formula of the show, it does give me what I want from an episode.

Mickayla's thoughts:
Years after watching Cowboy Bebop, Heavy Metal Queen is one of the only episodes I fully remembered and cherished. Great music, great plot progression
11/26

Stifled - Quite frankly, I am shocked that was not Iron Maiden. Holy crap. Anyways, excellent metal music aside, this is an episode that is probably a bit under the radar for most, but it never fails to wow me. V.T. is super cool, and my hope is that there are real life truckers like her out there. The game to guess V.T.s real name is another fun little way to add more mystery to her character. Spike figuring it out at the end, along with the nice little chat the followed, was a really nice payoff for the episode.

Ermine - Not bad not bad. Victoria and Zeros were both pretty cool. The story of the episode wasn't anything fantastic but it flowed well enough. Decent amounts of Ein too which made me happy. The little floating doggo made me smile.

7/10

Wickle - Odd episode, revolved around a space trucker. Not much to say, it had its fun.

KBM - I enjoyed this one quite a bit while I was watching it, but then, I kind of figured VT would turn into a recurring character and was disappointed when I realized she was just going to end up being a one-off, which robbed the episode of some of the promise it had. It's good enough placed where it is, but it doesn't serve much purpose outside of being a change of pace from the more serious episodes directly preceding it.

JONA - VT is a fun character and I liked seeing the betting game involving her name and the reason why she hated bounty hunters. VT's cat also looked delicious. It was also neat seeing what truckers in the future are like, with a cool cameo by Snake. When it comes to the main cast, they're pretty fun here too in their quest to catch Woody Allen. I like how Spike and Faye went in different directions to catch the bounty. Faye's facial expression of her staring at the sundae is fantastic. I also like Faye's line of not being the delicate type despite what she said in the prior episode. I also love Spike's facial expression when his egg falls. I thought it was cool how Spike used the gun to get back to VT's ship. I do like how Jet kinda acts like the father of the crew with him taking care of Ein and scolding Spike and Faye when they come back. Also interesting to learn he's 36 from the episode preview. Fun episode.

Favorite Song: Doggy Dog III

Inviso - Im only seven episodes into this list, and Im already running out of things to say. This plot is fine, theres some decent comedy, but mostly, its justthere. The hilarity of a random dweeb turning out to be the source this massive bounty reward is undercut by how he gets killed randomly, halfway through the episode, and then its justwho cares? Like, the whole episode is supposed to be building up VT as this character, but shes just a gruff truck driver who dislikes bounty hunters. Thats about it. This level of curtness is whats hurting my enjoyment of, what is ostensibly meant to be, a dramatic show.
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JONALEON1
08/21/19 4:36:13 PM
#74:


Snake - After a string of particularly notable episodes, we get this episode which unfortunately feels just like filler. While VT is a cool character with her love of heavy metal, strong sense of justice, and cool cat companion, the episodes plot is extremely empty and honestly boring. After the whole debacle at the bar, which are scenes I definitely enjoyed, dont get me wrong, the episode just becomes so plain without any brilliance or depth of the episodes that came before it.

scarlet - After Sympathy for the Devil, Heavy Metal Queen is a bit of a disappointment. By contrast, it just seems unintentionally slapdash. Its events dont really accomplish anything beyond making Jet more of a supporting character and less of a sidekick, though thats an almost accidental development.
Rating: 76/100

Gen - Despite its ending up this low, this session actually grew on me upon rewatch. While I might loathe her music tastes VT is actually a pretty cool chick, and I like her companion, Zeros. Sure, you can smell her backstory coming from ten miles away as soon as she reveals her distaste for bounty hunters, but the fact that she goes out of her way to help the Bebop crew out of a sticky situation, even invoking a network of other space truckers in the process, makes Victoria okay in my book.

charon - Eh, this one didn't do much for me. VT isn't super interesting and I just didn't really think an episode with this title needed to be so heavy handed with the music choice either. The most memorable thing is also one of the oddest to me, where Spike mentions her dead husband after discovering her identity. In usual fashion he likes to be broke so he doesn't take anything but the original money he bet, which of course if done wrong annoys me with the series, but here he also mentions the rest of the money is for the dude up in heaven? Yeah, I don't know. That line just didn't strike me as very much in character and was a little jarring.

Karo - Here we have forgettable story about truckers or something and going after an equally forgettable bounty with a forgettable ally and some stuff blows up.
But the real blasphemy here is that the show's excellent soundtrack is polluted by random swaths of butt metal all throughout the episode. I don't care if there is an in-story reason for it, or that it is usually done for laughs, keep that shit out of my Bebop you fuck fucking fuckers fuckety fuck fuck.
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StifledSilence
08/21/19 4:44:43 PM
#75:


Wowwwww most of you are awful

johnbobb knows whats up though

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JONALEON1
08/21/19 4:48:44 PM
#76:


Outlier

Stifled - 48
Wickle - 42
Johnbobb - 40
Ermine - 39
Karo - 28
Snake - 22
charon - 18
Gen - 16
KBM - 16
Inviso - 15
scarlet - 12
JONA - 10

Stifled trucks on by past Wickle and rocks his way to the top.
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Inviso
08/21/19 4:52:51 PM
#77:


Huh. Maybe I'll only be middling in the outlier, instead of winning the outlier.
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Johnbobb
08/21/19 4:56:45 PM
#78:


StifledSilence posted...
Wowwwww most of you are awful

johnbobb knows whats up though

high five

this one hurt
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08/21/19 5:42:07 PM
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08/21/19 6:54:49 PM
#80:


Not much to talk about with this episode really. I'm just sad that a metal-centric episode wasn't one of the more memorable ones.

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WickIebee
08/22/19 10:09:23 PM
#81:


JONALEON1 posted...
Outlier

Stifled - 48
Wickle - 42
Johnbobb - 40
Ermine - 39
Karo - 28
Snake - 22
charon - 18
Gen - 16
KBM - 16
Inviso - 15
scarlet - 12
JONA - 10

Stifled trucks on by past Wickle and rocks his way to the top.


See you, space outlier (apparently didn't check this at all last night)
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JONALEON1
08/22/19 11:11:27 PM
#82:


21. Jamming with Edward
Total: 211 pts.

Johnbobb - 7
Karo - 7
Stifled - 14
Ermine - 15
JONA - 15
charon - 20
Gen - 21
scarlet - 21
Snake - 21
KBM - 22
Wickle - 23
Inviso - 25

Johnbobb - Ed's the fucking best.

Mickayla's thoughts:
The most pure part of this show.
13/26

Karo - While on the bounty for a satellite saboteur, the gang meets the final member of the Bebop crew, the eccentric hacker Radical Edward, and she agrees to help the in exchange for a place on the ship.
Despite her silliness, Ed never seems out of place on the show. To the contrary, she brings a certain something or other to the table and it is hard to imagine the show without her weirdly endearing presence.
Anyway, this is a pretty decent episode where their new hacker buddy helps them defuse a rouge satellite AI, an all-too-rare case where the others actually make use of Ed's formidable talents, despite there being innumerable places in the series where she would be very very helpful. (hey, Ed, can you remotely hijack Vicious' ship and crash it into the sun? kthxbai)

Stifled - Im not entirely sure, but I think Ed might be my favorite Bebop character. Episodes where shes heavily featured (or in this case, where she debuted) tend to be more enjoyable for me than ones without her. The end sequence in particular sets the tone for what we can expect from her in future episodes, when she holds the Bebop hostage with a remote control until she can join the crew. Also, there are really cool space battles. Im always down for cool space battles.

Ermine - Well... Ed isn't really what I expected at all. She's kind of... annoying with all those sounds she makes. Her introduction story really wasn't all that great either but at least there was an okay amount of Ein scenes.

The bit at the end was pretty funny though.

6/10

JONA - The introduction episode of Ed. Ed's a really fun character and she seems like the kind of character that would be easy to mess up and make her annoying but they do such a great job with her. Her controlling of the cop ship and the Bebop are very entertaining. She also has some nice interactions with MPU, the HAL-9000 reference. The reasons for it making the drawings on Earth are kinda sad and helps the show's theme of loneliness. Faye and Jet have a fun conversation before they go out to find the hacker. Jet has a neat foreshadowing joke with him saying that hackers are different from when she was young and that you can't tell the age of a woman by looking at her. The scene of Jet interviewing people to find more information about Edward is great with the viewpoint being on just the people and not Jet and it helps show how great the character design of Cowboy Bebop is with everyone looking unique. I love how Jet says all of the information about him in one sentence with a straight face later on. "He's a 7 foot tall ex-basketball pro Hindu guru drag queen alien." It seemed like it would be another episode where the gang actually managed to get a bounty but nope. It was funny listening to Punch reading the long message about why the bounty won't be given. Really fun episode.

Favorite Song: Cats on Mars
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JONALEON1
08/22/19 11:11:29 PM
#83:


charon - It was especially strange to wait 9 episodes to see a major starring cast member who appears in the intro finally appear on screen. Ed is a bizarre character, and that's putting it mildly. I find myself not really know how to feel about her. There's usually just a couple of types for child characters, even though Ed is apparently like 13 you'd never know that. I don't feel she fits into the molds of child characters I know of. She's high-energy, yet she's in no way bratty. She's intelligent, but she's not a very good conversationalist. It's weird. This episode itself is pretty weird too. I don't dislike it, but it still left me a little bit underwhelmed too.

Gen - I had to look at this one objectively because honestly, other than introducing my favorite character not much happens in this session. As much as I adore the rogue hacker she doesn't get to shine until she's able to interact one on one with the rest of the Bebop crew I think. MPU is reminiscent of an innocuous HAL-9000 and is therefore even more uninteresting. This is not the kind of character Edward can bounce off of to the fullest of her abilities.

scarlet - Your mileage may vary depending on two things: first, how much do you like kids? Second, how much do you like HAL-9000 from 2001: A Space Odyssey? My answer?
Rating: 77/100

Snake - I cant quite tell if Radical Ed is going to be an annoying character or an endearing one. However, Im certainly leaning towards the former. So far, the show has juggled comedy and drama with class and grace, always coming at the right moment, but Ed seems too random for my tastes. On the flipside, the stuff with MPU was quite touching, even though I wish it went deeper with whether or not computers count as living things, rather than just briefly discussing it. Well, either way, it wasnt the best episode but enjoyable enough, and Ed didnt ruin it that much but I still wish she was just a one-off or minor recurring character (but she ends up getting better later!).

KBM - Edward's introduction is a rocky one as she kind of comes across annoying to start out with, and a lot of the episode's humor just doesn't land very well for me. The episode's plot revolves around an underdeveloped conflict with a sentient satellite that's resolved all too abruptly.

Wickle - Edwards introduction, and I certainly was not expecting her to be a her. I really do not like the cop out with this episodes way to make sure no bounty was paid out. And the only thing I appreciate about Ed right now is that these dubbers at least knew how to keep a characters third person, unlike SOMETHING else.

Inviso - Im REALLY worried about the future of this show, now that theyve added a hyperactive child character to the cast. This episode just feels sopointless. The main bad guy is a sad satellite that wants to draw Nazca lines in South America. Big fucking deal. It seems the only purpose to this episode was just to introduce Edward, who is EXTRA annoying, what with the verbal tick of referring to herself in the third person all the time. This just feels like a complete filler episode to introduce a character that will be relevant in the rest of the series. Its a waste of time.
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Inviso
08/22/19 11:13:16 PM
#84:


Wow. So my entire bottom five is all out. I'm...actually surprised.
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JONALEON1
08/22/19 11:15:50 PM
#85:


Outlier

Stifled - 55
Johnbobb - 54
Ermine - 45
Wickle - 44
Karo - 42
Snake - 22
charon - 20
Inviso - 19
KBM - 17
Gen - 16
JONA - 16
scarlet - 12

Johnbobb almost hacks his way to the top but Stifled's firewall says no.
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BetrayedTangy
08/22/19 11:19:40 PM
#86:


God I gotta hurry up and finish this so I can read these rankings
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NBIceman
08/22/19 11:21:05 PM
#87:


Ed is pretty solidly my least favorite member of the crew, but that's more a credit to how much I enjoy the other three than it is an indictment of her.

I like her best in the episodes that don't focus on her much.
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JONALEON1
08/22/19 11:22:35 PM
#88:


charon posted...
he also mentions the rest of the money is for the dude up in heaven? Yeah, I don't know. That line just didn't strike me as very much in character and was a little jarring.


Gonna give my thoughts on this. Spike generally has a respect for the dead as we see with Gren, he bothers to check back with Roco's sister in Waltz for Venus and helped Giraffe with his wish to help Zebra in Sympathy for the Devil. I don't think it was out of character.
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v_charon
08/22/19 11:28:34 PM
#89:


It was more of the God thing than him being kind or respectful of the dead or their relatives. Religion is admittedly not brought up a ton in the show, and when it seldom is it tends to be themed around Asian based religions.
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VengefulKaelee
08/22/19 11:59:46 PM
#90:


NBIceman posted...
Ed is pretty solidly my least favorite member of the crew, but that's more a credit to how much I enjoy the other three than it is an indictment of her.

I like her best in the episodes that don't focus on her much.


This is pretty much exactly how I feel as well.
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Johnbobb
08/23/19 12:10:44 AM
#91:


Ed is the best character (closely followed by Spike)

this list is not at all what I expected
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Snake5555555555
08/23/19 12:16:25 AM
#92:


I was pretty surprised with how relatively minor Ed ended up being in the grand scheme of things. That really helped her become more endearing imo.

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GenesisSaga
08/23/19 12:04:08 PM
#93:


Johnbobb posted...
Ed is the best character (closely followed by Spike)

this list is about what I expected

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JONALEON1
08/23/19 2:47:31 PM
#94:


20. Honky Tonk Women
Total: 209 pts.

Wickle - 3
Karo - 14
Snake - 15
Stifled - 15
KBM - 16
Inviso - 17
Ermine - 19
scarlet - 19
JONA - 20
Gen - 23
charon - 24
Johnbobb - 24

Wickle - So we meet Faye and the meeting does not disappoint. She immediately defines herself as this new age version of a gypsy. Shes an outlaw and a cheat, and seems to have gained a little respect from Spike, judging his response to hearing that she might be in the area. Was good to have an episode without a bounty being hunted, not that theyre bad, but its good to get a breather.

Karo - This episode is the intro of Faye, an amoral con woman who is being forced to work at a space casino by gangsters. Spike and Jet are not actually after a bounty at first they are at the casino because they are low on cash and apparently gambling is the only thing they can think of to remedy the situation.
There is a lot of good interactions between her and the other two and these are the highlight of the episode, its a very middle of the road kind of thing.

Snake - Honky Tonk Women finally feels like a truly complete episode. I love the first scene with Faye, establishing her character as a sexy, tough, and skilled badass, yet also with a comedic streak that keeps her character fresh and hilarious. I like the way Spike bounces off of her, and I also feel like Jet is starting to become his own character too, as we get some clues into his backstory and also his new relationship with Ein. I really like the final sequence which mixes comedy and action really well, and the ending feels bittersweet with Faye getting away. Even though I know we will obviously see her again, if she didnt return, I feel like she made a big impact regardless.

Stifled - Faye gets an exciting debut episode with tons of action and casino hijinx. Im a big fan of casinos in different forms of media (except that lame one from The Last Jedi), so the setting already got me excited for the episode. Faye comes off like such a cool customer in her debut, pulling off some really crazy maneuvers to evade capture. While we see her come down to earth a bit with her awful luck later on, it was cool seeing her leave a badass first impression.

KBM - A solid introduction to the lovely Ms. Faye Valentine, along with some great visuals, helps to offset a plotline that centers around a confusing MacGuffin (the vaguely-defined poker/computer chip) and a setup full of silly coincidences (thank god Faye just happened to be waiting for someone who looked almost exactly like Spike, AND just happened to have a malfunctioning monitor!). Definitely not one of my favorites in the series as it is for some, but Faye's introduction obviously yields some great things down the line.

Inviso - I dont know if this series just isnt working for me or what, but I LIKE Firefly, and Spike is a lovable rogue type of character. But for whatever reason, I guess the short runtime of the episodes doesnt allow for a lot for the level of characterization that I tend to enjoy. Youve got Spike and Jet, and theyre at a casino and randomly get swept up in some bullshit scams. And we meet Faye, and some other shit goes down involving a plot that isnt well-developed, because again, we get involved so quickly in it. I just dont know.
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JONALEON1
08/23/19 2:47:33 PM
#95:


Ermine - Wasn't really feeling this episode overall, especially coming off of Stray Dog Strut. Humor was pretty low and pacing of the episode just kinda felt sluggish. I usually enjoy casino and gambling themed episodes in other cartoons/shows but this just felt kinda lackluster as a whole. Faye is an interesting character but I don't really have that great of an opinion of her yet. Overall I'd say slightly below average... definitely needed more Ein!

5.5/10

scarlet - Although the whole setup that leads Faye to getting captured by Spike and Jet is a little far fetched in how it unfolds, it's still very entertaining, very funny, and it provides a great introduction to Faye as a character, whose backstory becomes a major part of the story's plot.
Rating: 78/100

JONA - The first scene of the episodes introduces Faye and it's a great introduction. It shows Faye's seductive ways and how she tries to be cool but still ends up being in trouble. The animation in that scene is great too and shows how Faye moves in a seductive way too and I liked how all the stuff breaking looked. I always liked the aesthetic of casinos, so it was cool to see a futuristic casino. I dig the giant roulette wheel around the spaceship. I liked Spike's odd skill of swallowing and regurgitating coming into play twice here. Spike's casino fight and the the deal are both cool scenes but my favorite part of the episode is Faye's interactions with Spike, Jet and Ein. They just have an immediate great chemistry and dynamic. Solid, fun introductory episode for Faye.

Favorite Song: Piano Black, but N.Y. Rush is great too.

Gen - This session introduces a protagonist that frustrates me on numerous levels. Even after she's given some backstory expanding focus sessions much later on I can't say I'm a fan of the current Faye. She's a thief, a liar, and a con-artist even if she has her reasons for being so, and I am thoroughly against gambling addictions in general. Even still I can't say her antics aren't entertaining for the wrong reasons, as is Spike's amazingly gross talent of swallowing things whole and cough them up at his convenience. Gordon and especially his goons are idiots I've gotta say. That casino chip plan was never gonna be sound with so many variables to consider, Faye being the least predictable of all.

charon - aye's introductory episode isn't a grand one and through no fault of their own, her worst qualities as a character are presented first. One is to think she's simply that episode's one off villain after all. I did enjoy the false exchange scene in space but at the same time I was questioning by the end why Spike and Jet didn't just take the chip and sell it somewhere since it was still in their possession. Certainly it's worth something to someone, somewhere. This is just one of those times I felt the show ended with them broke for the sake of it.

Johnbobb - The episode gets some credit for introducing Faye, and it wasn't a bad episode by any means, but just kind of forgettable in the grand scheme, in part due to the use of the extremely overused "two people bump into each other and accidentally swap their identical items" cliche.

Mickayla's thoughts:
Faye really isn't that interesting of a character.
26/26
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JONALEON1
08/23/19 2:54:01 PM
#96:


Outlier

Wickle - 61
Stifled - 60
Johnbobb - 59
Karo - 48
Ermine - 46
Snake - 27
charon - 24
Inviso - 22
KBM - 21
Gen - 19
JONA - 16
scarlet - 13

Wickle wins big to become the leading outlier but Stifled's only 1 chip behind.
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GenesisSaga
08/23/19 2:55:15 PM
#97:


Seems about right. My favorite exchange in this session was Ein being the only one to take Faye seriously when she was claiming that as a Romani she needs to be wild and free. Them howling was cute.
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Sherry_Tueli
08/23/19 3:06:44 PM
#98:


... God, fuck this.
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JONALEON1
08/23/19 3:07:00 PM
#99:


charon posted...
I was questioning by the end why Spike and Jet didn't just take the chip and sell it somewhere since it was still in their possession. Certainly it's worth something to someone, somewhere. This is just one of those times I felt the show ended with them broke for the sake of it.


That would be pretty out of character for Jet imo
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StifledSilence
08/23/19 3:13:39 PM
#100:


This group definitely arent fans of debut episodes.

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