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Beveren_Rabbit
08/16/19 8:44:50 AM
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DYQAwIS
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ImCallingYouOut
08/16/19 8:45:31 AM
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here we fucking go

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Sada_Pop
08/16/19 8:45:42 AM
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I've never seen this but well... I tip.

This is just flagrant lol
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aki_sora
08/16/19 8:48:37 AM
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Thank god my country don't have tips culture
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Foppe
08/16/19 8:54:11 AM
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aki_sora posted...
Thank god my country don't have tips culture

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Benify
08/16/19 8:56:01 AM
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LMAO fuck tipping. It's supposed to help the driver? Buddy I give zero fucks about you, just give me my pizza.
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specialkid8
08/16/19 8:58:04 AM
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ok
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TwoDoorPunkCab
08/16/19 9:00:12 AM
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maybe they should have taken the money wasted in printing those flyers and put it towards paying their staff a real wage
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AlecSkorpio
08/16/19 9:03:13 AM
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So where does the the delivery charge go to if it doesnt cover paying the driver?

This is why I just pick up my shit
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XxKrazyChaosxX
08/16/19 9:06:45 AM
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"Do you need any napkins?"

"Nah, this flyer will work."

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MrResetti
08/16/19 9:09:35 AM
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Lol @ people.who eat pizza in 2019
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Touch
08/16/19 9:11:11 AM
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MrResetti posted...
Lol @ people.who eat pizza in 2019

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LadyVyxx
08/16/19 9:17:41 AM
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If you're a frequent customer and never tip then be careful cause you never know what they do to the pizza
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ssj3vegeta_
08/16/19 9:21:34 AM
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LadyVyxx posted...
If you're a frequent customer and never tip then be careful cause you never know what they do to the pizza

Dey should wear body cams dey can't shut off
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YukihoHagiwara
08/16/19 9:21:55 AM
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just to tip?
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FrankGoreHOF
08/16/19 9:41:21 AM
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Please pay your employees better?

Who dont you lads tip in America?
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apolloooo
08/16/19 9:41:56 AM
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Foppe posted...
aki_sora posted...
Thank god my country don't have tips culture

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gatorsPENSbucs
08/16/19 9:44:21 AM
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AlecSkorpio posted...
So where does the the delivery charge go to if it doesnt cover paying the driver?

This is why I just pick up my shit

Mainly to pay for the insurance for the drivers.
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Kraidette
08/16/19 9:44:38 AM
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Thank God I don't adhere to my country's brainwashed tip culture.
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Veggeta_MAX
08/16/19 9:45:24 AM
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Posting on LL. Will let you know their reactions.

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fan357
08/16/19 9:57:47 AM
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Imagine being such a crappy person that you dont tip. Tipping sucks but unless your server or delivery driver REALLY sucks then you have to tip.

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AlisLandale
08/16/19 9:59:24 AM
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As a former driver, if my store made me top boxes with those, I would rip them off at te customers driveway out of sheer shame lol
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TwoDoorPunkCab
08/16/19 10:02:27 AM
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fenderbender321 posted...
TwoDoorPunkCab posted...
maybe they should have taken the money wasted in printing those flyers and put it towards paying their staff a real wage


Let's see...probably costs about 20 dollars a month to print thousands and thousands of those. Maybe. Spread that across about 15 drivers or so. Nice, and extra dollar and some change each month per driver.


off to a start then
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TwoDoorPunkCab
08/16/19 10:03:31 AM
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fan357 posted...
Imagine being such a crappy person that you dont tip. Tipping sucks but unless your server or delivery driver REALLY sucks then you have to tip.


imagine being such a crappy employer you don't pay your staff fair wages and push on the responsibility to the customer
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fan357
08/16/19 10:04:59 AM
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TwoDoorPunkCab posted...
imagine being such a crappy employer you don't pay your staff fair wages and push on the responsibility to the customer


I agree. But until it changes you have to tip.

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Unite
08/16/19 10:05:09 AM
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If you arent tipping and getting same driver multiple times your going end up with **** cheese pizza with a bit of organic pizza sauce.
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nemu
08/16/19 10:15:09 AM
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I'll never refuse to tip, but tipping culture is so stupid.
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Fam_Fam
08/16/19 10:21:31 AM
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fenderbender321 posted...
AlecSkorpio posted...
So where does the the delivery charge go to if it doesnt cover paying the driver?

This is why I just pick up my shit


That is a good question but there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for it.

It costs more for a store to sell deliveries than carryouts. Why? Because it requires much more labor. A store can sell 30 carryouts an hour and only need maybe 4 or 5 employees to make them and handle the transactions. If instead those 30 carryouts we were 30 deliveries an hour, the store would need about 12 - 15 employees to make the delivery. That's more than double the cost of labor the store has to spend just because people want delivery.

So there you go...never a reason to complain about a delivery charge again now that everyone knows why they are 100% perfectly reasonable.


30 deliveries in an hour x $5 charge = $150 revenue per hour

let's say they do hire extra 10 workers for that hour just for deliveries. How much do they pay tipped employees per hour? Multiply that by 10. It would need to be $15 per hour to balance out. As tipped employees, they make FAR less than that (minimum is $4.35). So it's about triple what they need to offset the costs.

Now, consider the fact that they also have profit margins on every single one of those 30 deliveries (some of which will have multiple items), and that those are potentially 30 orders they would not have made otherwise. How much do you think a pizza costs them to make compared to what they sell them for? Multiply that by 30, assuming they sold only 1 item per delivery (not the case). This makes them a lot of money.

They are just adding to the profits because they can. It's not to offset costs. Yes, it costs them $4.35 for a delivery driver for an hour. They take in (let's say) $4.35 delivery charge. That's ONE delivery. How many deliveries does that driver make in that hour? More than 1, and its profit. Now, consider that they are also making profit on every item sold.

The delivery charge is much more than what it needs to be, because people will pay it.
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NathanX95
08/16/19 10:22:45 AM
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fan357 posted...
Imagine being such a crappy person that you dont tip. Tipping sucks but unless your server or delivery driver REALLY sucks then you have to tip.

That's not how tipping works buddy.
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ModLogic
08/16/19 10:41:49 AM
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TwoDoorPunkCab posted...
fan357 posted...
Imagine being such a crappy person that you dont tip. Tipping sucks but unless your server or delivery driver REALLY sucks then you have to tip.


imagine being such a crappy employer you don't pay your staff fair wages and push on the responsibility to the customer

completely unfair. its the tip workers that don't want a set wage. all these tip jobs are no skill min wage roles. the only way they can make more than min wage is to take advantage of the tip culture and basically con ignorant and weak minded customers.
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ShadowElite86
08/16/19 11:04:38 AM
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I mean....it makes more sense to tip a delivery driver than a waiter. People will order food for delivery in rain or snow. It takes more time and effort to get food to someones place compared to walking a few feet to a table.
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Fam_Fam
08/16/19 12:40:46 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
AlecSkorpio posted...
So where does the the delivery charge go to if it doesnt cover paying the driver?

This is why I just pick up my shit


That is a good question but there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for it.

It costs more for a store to sell deliveries than carryouts. Why? Because it requires much more labor. A store can sell 30 carryouts an hour and only need maybe 4 or 5 employees to make them and handle the transactions. If instead those 30 carryouts we were 30 deliveries an hour, the store would need about 12 - 15 employees to make the delivery. That's more than double the cost of labor the store has to spend just because people want delivery.

So there you go...never a reason to complain about a delivery charge again now that everyone knows why they are 100% perfectly reasonable.


30 deliveries in an hour x $5 charge = $150 revenue per hour

let's say they do hire extra 10 workers for that hour just for deliveries. How much do they pay tipped employees per hour? Multiply that by 10. It would need to be $15 per hour to balance out. As tipped employees, they make FAR less than that (minimum is $4.35). So it's about triple what they need to offset the costs.

Now, consider the fact that they also have profit margins on every single one of those 30 deliveries (some of which will have multiple items), and that those are potentially 30 orders they would not have made otherwise. How much do you think a pizza costs them to make compared to what they sell them for? Multiply that by 30, assuming they sold only 1 item per delivery (not the case). This makes them a lot of money.

They are just adding to the profits because they can. It's not to offset costs. Yes, it costs them $4.35 for a delivery driver for an hour. They take in (let's say) $4.35 delivery charge. That's ONE delivery. How many deliveries does that driver make in that hour? More than 1, and its profit. Now, consider that they are also making profit on every item sold.

The delivery charge is much more than what it needs to be, because people will pay it.


Where I live, delivery charge is $3.50 and drivers are paid $9 an hour. Then we factor in all the additional costs such as insurance, etc.

Oh yeah and also we factor in the fact that drivers actually do get like $1 off each delivery charge.

So if we revise the numbers, they are now slanted in favor of what I originally said.


how many deliveries does a driver do in an hour?
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ToPoPO
08/16/19 12:44:19 PM
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fan357 posted...
TwoDoorPunkCab posted...
imagine being such a crappy employer you don't pay your staff fair wages and push on the responsibility to the customer


I agree. But until it changes you have to tip.


Nah, how is change going to happen if you tip and reinforce their behavior and policy?

#NeverTip

Even worse is when you're ordering a smoothie or some tea/drink and before they even make it they have an option to tip.
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
08/16/19 12:44:32 PM
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Heres a tip get a better job obligated post.
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Lairen
08/16/19 12:46:44 PM
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AlecSkorpio posted...
This is why I just pick up my s***

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Payzmaykr
08/16/19 12:50:57 PM
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When I order online, I always get a delivery fee. If that delivery fee doesnt go to the driver, then I shouldnt have to pay it. Regardless, I tip $3.
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pikachupwnage
08/16/19 12:52:49 PM
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Benify posted...
LMAO fuck tipping. It's supposed to help the driver? Buddy I give zero fucks about you, just give me my pizza.


Fam_Fam posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
AlecSkorpio posted...
So where does the the delivery charge go to if it doesnt cover paying the driver?

This is why I just pick up my shit


That is a good question but there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for it.

It costs more for a store to sell deliveries than carryouts. Why? Because it requires much more labor. A store can sell 30 carryouts an hour and only need maybe 4 or 5 employees to make them and handle the transactions. If instead those 30 carryouts we were 30 deliveries an hour, the store would need about 12 - 15 employees to make the delivery. That's more than double the cost of labor the store has to spend just because people want delivery.

So there you go...never a reason to complain about a delivery charge again now that everyone knows why they are 100% perfectly reasonable.


30 deliveries in an hour x $5 charge = $150 revenue per hour

let's say they do hire extra 10 workers for that hour just for deliveries. How much do they pay tipped employees per hour? Multiply that by 10. It would need to be $15 per hour to balance out. As tipped employees, they make FAR less than that (minimum is $4.35). So it's about triple what they need to offset the costs.

Now, consider the fact that they also have profit margins on every single one of those 30 deliveries (some of which will have multiple items), and that those are potentially 30 orders they would not have made otherwise. How much do you think a pizza costs them to make compared to what they sell them for? Multiply that by 30, assuming they sold only 1 item per delivery (not the case). This makes them a lot of money.

They are just adding to the profits because they can. It's not to offset costs. Yes, it costs them $4.35 for a delivery driver for an hour. They take in (let's say) $4.35 delivery charge. That's ONE delivery. How many deliveries does that driver make in that hour? More than 1, and its profit. Now, consider that they are also making profit on every item sold.

The delivery charge is much more than what it needs to be, because people will pay it.


Lets not pretend like your average local pizza joint is racking in enough to be a multi millionaire in short order.

The equipment, utilities, facilities and labor eat a lot of huge margins on the food itself.
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Paragon21XX
08/16/19 12:59:59 PM
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If you spot your best bud a couple of dollars for giving you a lift in his car when you can't drive or do not feel like driving, then why wouldn't you spot your pizza delivery driver a couple of dollars for giving your pizza a lift in his car to your place?
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Jiggy101011
08/16/19 1:16:46 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
As a former driver, if my store made me top boxes with those, I would rip them off at te customers driveway out of sheer shame lol


Same. I used to be a driver for Dominos about a decade ago, made somewhere around $5.10/hr and everything was dependant on my tips to have either a good or bad day.

The nicer the house the worse the tip was. Theres also thr people who order delivery at 11:30pm and then dont tip you anything which is shitty. I looked forward to delivering to apartment complexes because they would tip the best.
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Middle hope
08/16/19 1:20:53 PM
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I would hate to work in a job relying on tips. Imagine having a chance that you go home after a hard day of work spending more than you make on gas, or just breaking even. Even if the employer will compensate you to min wage if the tips dont make up for it.

It sounds shitty all around

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tullock
08/16/19 1:22:06 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
AlecSkorpio posted...
So where does the the delivery charge go to if it doesnt cover paying the driver?

This is why I just pick up my shit


That is a good question but there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for it.

It costs more for a store to sell deliveries than carryouts. Why? Because it requires much more labor. A store can sell 30 carryouts an hour and only need maybe 4 or 5 employees to make them and handle the transactions. If instead those 30 carryouts we were 30 deliveries an hour, the store would need about 12 - 15 employees to make the delivery. That's more than double the cost of labor the store has to spend just because people want delivery.

So there you go...never a reason to complain about a delivery charge again now that everyone knows why they are 100% perfectly reasonable.


So you're saying the extra price goes towards paying drivers?
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Mr_Karate_II
08/16/19 1:25:27 PM
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I rarely tip delivery drivers, it's not a hard job really unless it's fucking cold and snowing out. Now waiters and waitresses? Yeah i usually do tip them 90% of the time.
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Lunar_Savage
08/16/19 1:27:33 PM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
I rarely tip delivery drivers, it's not a hard job really unless it's fucking cold and snowing out. Now waiters and waitresses? Yeah i usually do tip them 90% of the time.


Maybe not difficult. But it is a high risk job. A higher risk than you're willing to take by driving to the store to pick it up.

Risk/reward is something entirely forgotten by a lot of people it seems.

You go to strangers houses all night and risk being robbed or worse all night...the dudes deserve to go home at the end of the night with a wad of cash in their pocket.
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