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Corrik7
08/13/19 6:37:04 AM
#201:


As of my re-read so far entering day 3.

Town
Corrik
HB
Gravy

Pretty town
Mzero

Likely town
Lea
Lopen
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Corrik7
08/13/19 6:43:47 AM
#202:


benjamin3740 posted...
Please follow me on Scare if you want an easy scum lynch today. This is not based on Blade's play but Scare's.


When Chris got -3 Ben comes at scare with zero reasoning. Says it is based on "Scare's" play not Blades. So, not a scan.

Then

benjamin3740 posted...
I have not been reading in much depth. Spent about a total of 45 minutes of time in total on this game so far because of being busy. However I read enough to know Chris is town. And that was based on day 1, not the Sultan crusade (which only helps his case more)


How could he have read much of scums play if the majority of this 45 minutes was supposedly knowing Chris was town while re-reading day 1 before hammering.
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Corrik7
08/13/19 6:45:43 AM
#203:


benjamin3740 posted...
Lea is undoubtedly an actual watcher since there's no reason to risk messing up that claim on a high risk low reward situation like that. Could be scum watcher just revealing at a time when he can be "helpful", but I still think it's high risk because anyone on the scum team would have been expecting Sultan flips town. And Watchers can't just keep surviving night kills. If another town scanning role exists then Lea is a lot more likely scum, but for now tracker and watcher is a perfectly viable combo


Scum Ben wouldn't have posted this if scummates with Lea.
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IfGodCouldDie
08/13/19 6:50:34 AM
#204:


Lopen posted...
Also I'd say chances of Scare being scum seem low when looking at the lynches today. If people actually bite on Scare the game is basically over since I don't feel Ben or Lea get enough town cred from it to avoid a lynch.

Then again the whole strategy of Ben has been "scum would not do such a thing" so maybe Scare being the last scum would be as expected. I dunno.

Scum
8. Lea (Leanansidhe)
1. Ben (benjamin3740)
4. FD (Forceful_Dragon)
7. IGCD (IfGodCouldDie)

2. Blade (Meow1000) / Scare (ScareChan)

5. Gravy (greengravy294)
10. MZero (MZero11)
6. HB (Hbthebattle)
11. SBell (Obellisk) / Firebolt (fire_bolt)
3. Corrik (Corrik7)
Town

This is how I see the game currently. Descending order of scumminess. Town leans on bottom half scum on top. Obviously there is a lot of game left but that's how I see it currently.

You haven't had much interaction with me and haven't voiced any suspicion, what puts me there in terms of scumminess?
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benjamin3740
08/13/19 7:01:10 AM
#205:


Lopen posted...
Also I'd say chances of Scare being scum seem low when looking at the lynches today. If people actually bite on Scare the game is basically over since I don't feel Ben or Lea get enough town cred from it to avoid a lynch.

Then again the whole strategy of Ben has been "scum would not do such a thing" so maybe Scare being the last scum would be as expected. I dunno.

Scum
8. Lea (Leanansidhe)
1. Ben (benjamin3740)
4. FD (Forceful_Dragon)
7. IGCD (IfGodCouldDie)

2. Blade (Meow1000) / Scare (ScareChan)

5. Gravy (greengravy294)
10. MZero (MZero11)
6. HB (Hbthebattle)
11. SBell (Obellisk) / Firebolt (fire_bolt)
3. Corrik (Corrik7)
Town

This is how I see the game currently. Descending order of scumminess. Town leans on bottom half scum on top. Obviously there is a lot of game left but that's how I see it currently.

Never have I touted that. If that was how I was trying to portray myself you'd think I'd have brought it up myself. Also why IGCD scum? I read him town and so does Mzero, mr. "Never read IGCD wrong before"
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benjamin3740
08/13/19 7:02:56 AM
#206:


greengravy294 posted...
If Ben is town I will literally actually probably not forget this as the worst town move in the history of board 8

Which move was that? Sounds like you're really trying to justify my death already here, hooray...
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Corrik7
08/13/19 7:03:53 AM
#207:


Okay so I forgot sbell in my earlier post.

Town
Corrik
HB
Gravy

Pretty town
Mzero
Sbell

Likely town
Lea
Lopen

Now there is someone who has been super under the radar and people need to be considering a lot more.

Forceful_Dragon posted...
Like I said yesterday, I liked Blade day 1. Scare hasn't said anything to make me reconsider that at this point.

Regarding Chris x Lea I've was getting pretty convinced by Lopen even before Brohan claimed, but now nothing else makes sense.

I've gone over Red's contributions to day 2 and the main points he was presenting were "damn you for ending the day quickly, Chris is bad, we should still Target sultan first, don't end day early". To that end, I think Chris is the better choice today. If there is an extra kill on scum I think it's more likely to be the person who made up an absurd claim rather than than the fake watcher who only seems to have stepped in to make sure Chris didn't get lynched between the two. I think if Chris was desperate enough to ask someone to step in for him it would probably be a vanilla.

So consider my preference to be Chris, but I'm not voting for ANYONE until we hit the 36 how mark.
We need to have a proper length day, we've only been hampering and handicapping ourselves by limiting the amount of available information.


Not voting for ANYONE until the 36 hour mark. Remember this.

Forceful_Dragon posted...
MysticBrohan posted...
no guys chris lea and ben are all very obviously members of the mafia faction in this game of mafia can we lynch them please and thank you


I'm on board, but what's the rush? We've been suffering from a lack of daylight. Why do we have to end now?


Oh okay, no rush.

Forceful_Dragon posted...
I literally just finished saying scare hadn't given me any bad vibes and he does this.

I don't want the day to end early, but I also don't want to actively pursue any other lynches, that's just asking for trouble. Let's use this time to push the conversation on people who been announced the spotlight, but without losing our focus.


Lynch, Chris but let's not end early!

-3 on Chris.

4 hours later when Fire gets Chris to -2

Forceful_Dragon posted...
I got busy with laundry and yard work sheet I got home from church, but I'm still planning to spend some more time trying to learn about people who have been avoiding the spotlight. Also it's pretty ironic that Lea got on my day1 for saying i would be playing VR for a couple hours, calling it "preemptively excusing inactivity", when that's what he's been doing all day. Not that we needed a reason beside the watcher conter to think he's scum, but the hypocrisy is real.

With that said my schedule will be slightly better if the next day starts Monday rather than Tuesday so I guess I'm content to move things along.

##Vote: Chris

Someone can hammer now.


OH SHIT THIS IS HAPPENING. GOTTA GET IN ON THIS TO LOOK TOWN BEFORE IT HAPPENS. Better to look town being next to last to make it -1 than actually hammering.
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benjamin3740
08/13/19 7:05:09 AM
#208:


ScareChan posted...
Ben intentonally false hammered after he knew there was a hammer before as scum.. He's a sneaky boi

LOL and how is hammering Town sneaky? Whatever there's no convincing scum
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Corrik7
08/13/19 7:43:08 AM
#209:


So the scum team is in FD, Ben, IGCD, Scare. FD looks worse than IGCD.

Prob go

Ben > FD > Scare > IGCD
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IfGodCouldDie
08/13/19 7:43:44 AM
#210:


benjamin3740 posted...
Lopen posted...
Also I'd say chances of Scare being scum seem low when looking at the lynches today. If people actually bite on Scare the game is basically over since I don't feel Ben or Lea get enough town cred from it to avoid a lynch.

Then again the whole strategy of Ben has been "scum would not do such a thing" so maybe Scare being the last scum would be as expected. I dunno.

Scum
8. Lea (Leanansidhe)
1. Ben (benjamin3740)
4. FD (Forceful_Dragon)
7. IGCD (IfGodCouldDie)

2. Blade (Meow1000) / Scare (ScareChan)

5. Gravy (greengravy294)
10. MZero (MZero11)
6. HB (Hbthebattle)
11. SBell (Obellisk) / Firebolt (fire_bolt)
3. Corrik (Corrik7)
Town

This is how I see the game currently. Descending order of scumminess. Town leans on bottom half scum on top. Obviously there is a lot of game left but that's how I see it currently.

Never have I touted that. If that was how I was trying to portray myself you'd think I'd have brought it up myself. Also why IGCD scum? I read him town and so does Mzero, mr. "Never read IGCD wrong before"

Why not ask Corrik the same thing, neither have me listed in anyway as town.
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IfGodCouldDie
08/13/19 7:44:19 AM
#211:


Corrik7 posted...
So the scum team is in FD, Ben, IGCD, Scare. FD looks worse than IGCD.

Prob go

Ben > FD > Scare > IGCD

What exactly is it that makes me scum to you?
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Corrik7
08/13/19 7:45:54 AM
#212:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
So the scum team is in FD, Ben, IGCD, Scare. FD looks worse than IGCD.

Prob go

Ben > FD > Scare > IGCD

What exactly is it that makes me scum to you?

I just don't see much to make you town.

If on a list you and scare would be under neutral.

Ben and FD under scum.
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IfGodCouldDie
08/13/19 7:48:18 AM
#213:


Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
So the scum team is in FD, Ben, IGCD, Scare. FD looks worse than IGCD.

Prob go

Ben > FD > Scare > IGCD

What exactly is it that makes me scum to you?

I just don't see much to make you town.

If on a list you and scare would be under neutral.

Ben and FD under scum.

Neutral? Have I done nothing to earn points in either direction? If I have earned points in both directions what gets me scum points and what gets me town points?
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Corrik7
08/13/19 7:52:13 AM
#214:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
So the scum team is in FD, Ben, IGCD, Scare. FD looks worse than IGCD.

Prob go

Ben > FD > Scare > IGCD

What exactly is it that makes me scum to you?

I just don't see much to make you town.

If on a list you and scare would be under neutral.

Ben and FD under scum.

Neutral? Have I done nothing to earn points in either direction? If I have earned points in both directions what gets me scum points and what gets me town points?

You could go either way. You are neutral. Scare is neutral but he leans more scum than you because what was the gameplan if Ben and Chris are scum together faking a scan on scare for him to flip town? Get a mislynch and put off Chris' lynch 2 nights to keep his roleblock? Or does he flip scum to try and confirm Ben as legit and Chris via extension?

Not sure the thinking there.

I could have a single misread in my analysis tho. No way there is more than 2. FD is pretty much scum.
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Corrik7
08/13/19 7:54:41 AM
#215:


I would say if I have a misread, it is with lopen. Just because lopen's analysis didn't make sense regarding Chris to let him resolve when he is super against that. And, Chris of course happened to be the roleblocker which makes sense to buy days to "resolve" when Chris wasn't a resolvable claim anyways.
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IfGodCouldDie
08/13/19 7:56:06 AM
#216:


Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
So the scum team is in FD, Ben, IGCD, Scare. FD looks worse than IGCD.

Prob go

Ben > FD > Scare > IGCD

What exactly is it that makes me scum to you?

I just don't see much to make you town.

If on a list you and scare would be under neutral.

Ben and FD under scum.

Neutral? Have I done nothing to earn points in either direction? If I have earned points in both directions what gets me scum points and what gets me town points?

You could go either way. You are neutral. Scare is neutral but he leans more scum than you because what was the gameplan if Ben and Chris are scum together faking a scan on scare for him to flip town? Get a mislynch and put off Chris' lynch 2 nights to keep his roleblock? Or does he flip scum to try and confirm Ben as legit and Chris via extension?

Not sure the thinking there.

I could have a single misread in my analysis tho. No way there is more than 2. FD is pretty much scum.

You are avoiding elaborating on your read of me, why is that?
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Corrik7
08/13/19 7:57:06 AM
#217:


If Ben is town, it is the most nonsense play I have ever seen ever.

Like, faking masons cuz he thought Chris was town as town... Maybe.

Faking a scan on scare also to not just save Chris but to try and direct the Lynch to a specific person as well? That's where the wheels fall off as a town Gambit.
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Corrik7
08/13/19 7:59:31 AM
#218:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
So the scum team is in FD, Ben, IGCD, Scare. FD looks worse than IGCD.

Prob go

Ben > FD > Scare > IGCD

What exactly is it that makes me scum to you?

I just don't see much to make you town.

If on a list you and scare would be under neutral.

Ben and FD under scum.

Neutral? Have I done nothing to earn points in either direction? If I have earned points in both directions what gets me scum points and what gets me town points?

You could go either way. You are neutral. Scare is neutral but he leans more scum than you because what was the gameplan if Ben and Chris are scum together faking a scan on scare for him to flip town? Get a mislynch and put off Chris' lynch 2 nights to keep his roleblock? Or does he flip scum to try and confirm Ben as legit and Chris via extension?

Not sure the thinking there.

I could have a single misread in my analysis tho. No way there is more than 2. FD is pretty much scum.

You are avoiding elaborating on your read of me, why is that?

What is there to say about you? You are playing more this game. You have tried to analyze some shit. You also were the first onto Chris day 3. However, your play hasn't really accomplished too much either. You don't have defining moments that make me go aha he is town like HB and Gravy do.

I could resolve your play as either alignment easily. Especially your vote on Chris and push cuz ur the one guy who as scum with Chris who would be like IDGAF what your strategy is, I'll do it the way I want.
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IfGodCouldDie
08/13/19 8:03:36 AM
#219:


Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik7 posted...
So the scum team is in FD, Ben, IGCD, Scare. FD looks worse than IGCD.

Prob go

Ben > FD > Scare > IGCD

What exactly is it that makes me scum to you?

I just don't see much to make you town.

If on a list you and scare would be under neutral.

Ben and FD under scum.

Neutral? Have I done nothing to earn points in either direction? If I have earned points in both directions what gets me scum points and what gets me town points?

You could go either way. You are neutral. Scare is neutral but he leans more scum than you because what was the gameplan if Ben and Chris are scum together faking a scan on scare for him to flip town? Get a mislynch and put off Chris' lynch 2 nights to keep his roleblock? Or does he flip scum to try and confirm Ben as legit and Chris via extension?

Not sure the thinking there.

I could have a single misread in my analysis tho. No way there is more than 2. FD is pretty much scum.

You are avoiding elaborating on your read of me, why is that?

What is there to say about you? You are playing more this game. You have tried to analyze some shit. You also were the first onto Chris day 3. However, your play hasn't really accomplished too much either. You don't have defining moments that make me go aha he is town like HB and Gravy do.

I could resolve your play as either alignment easily. Especially your vote on Chris and push cuz ur the one guy who as scum with Chris who would be like IDGAF what your strategy is, I'll do it the way I want.

What makes HB town? Everything he has posted is way fucking scummier than anything else? Him not even questioning Lea backtracking on her claim, is pretty bad. Lea came in backtracked on her claim, and we was basically like well makes sense, ok that's fine.
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Corrik7
08/13/19 8:06:16 AM
#220:


HB doesn't nitpick Chris' claim details as scum with him. That is the main this dude is definitely town post. But, he has looked solidly town all game. Day 3 I mentioned that also.
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Corrik7
08/13/19 8:16:16 AM
#221:


I kinda think FD should claim before we decide on who to Lynch here.
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benjamin3740
08/13/19 8:17:44 AM
#222:


Corrik7 posted...
If Ben is town, it is the most nonsense play I have ever seen ever.

Like, faking masons cuz he thought Chris was town as town... Maybe.

Faking a scan on scare also to not just save Chris but to try and direct the Lynch to a specific person as well? That's where the wheels fall off as a town Gambit.

I was clearly not being serious about the scan. That's why I threw two crazy claims into one post, to make both less believable. I had already said earlier that more than a tracker+watcher would be too much for town, so I was never planning to stick with having a scan on Scare
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DrPez
08/13/19 8:23:13 AM
#223:


Official Votals as post 222

(4) Ben: Scare, (Corrik), Firebolt, FD, MZero
(3) Lea: Lopen, IGCD, (Scare), Gravy
(2) Scare: (Lea), Lea, Ben
(0) Lopen: (Firebolt), (Lea)

@ me with any errors

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Corrik7
08/13/19 8:28:09 AM
#224:


benjamin3740 posted...
Corrik7 posted...
If Ben is town, it is the most nonsense play I have ever seen ever.

Like, faking masons cuz he thought Chris was town as town... Maybe.

Faking a scan on scare also to not just save Chris but to try and direct the Lynch to a specific person as well? That's where the wheels fall off as a town Gambit.

I was clearly not being serious about the scan. That's why I threw two crazy claims into one post, to make both less believable. I had already said earlier that more than a tracker+watcher would be too much for town, so I was never planning to stick with having a scan on Scare

Then why is Scare scum. You said it repeatedly.
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Forceful_Dragon
08/13/19 8:47:36 AM
#225:


Deftlyn spotted, Corrik. I said I wouldn't vote before 36 hours and then voted at 27~ hours. Spooky!

I realized that the arbitrary time that I had selected was going to be 3AM for and that discussion had already begin to slow down do I changed my mind and cast a bit while I was still awake. I had a preference on the outcome of the day and I wanted my voice to count.
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MZero11
08/13/19 9:15:32 AM
#227:


Corrik7 posted...
Now there is someone who has been super under the radar and people need to be considering a lot more.


THANK you

Ben today, FD tomorrow imo
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MZero11
08/13/19 9:18:50 AM
#228:


or FD today, Ben tomorrow

either way!
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Corrik7
08/13/19 9:23:18 AM
#229:


MZero11 posted...
or FD today, Ben tomorrow

either way!

Ben today prob. Lea isn't being lynched today.
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fire_bolt
08/13/19 9:25:46 AM
#230:


Nothing to add atm cuz I got 10 minutes til out the door, just retagging to topic since I'm caught up.

Except this:

Corrik7 posted...
I would say if I have a misread, it is with lopen. Just because lopen's analysis didn't make sense regarding Chris to let him resolve when he is super against that. And, Chris of course happened to be the roleblocker which makes sense to buy days to "resolve" when Chris wasn't a resolvable claim anyways.


The reason you feel like this might be a misread is because Lopen is scum
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Corrik7
08/13/19 9:34:04 AM
#231:


Lopen, FD, Ben... Maybe. Still don't get the plan on Scare then. It's hard to wrap your brain around how dumb Ben's play was as any alignment.
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Corrik7
08/13/19 9:34:58 AM
#232:


I feel like Chris would not have allowed bussing from his team until late when he got down to -2 and FD very quickly goes from no hammer need more time to zomg hammer him he is -1.
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IfGodCouldDie
08/13/19 9:35:50 AM
#233:


I'm going to lay something out for later.

Corrik and Lopen both feel like players trying to over justify the votes that they have made/are sticking to. If Ben flips town I feel like Corrik has to be scum. Same with Lea and Lopen. Maybe it's just me getting inside my own head, but I am starting to feel like Ben and Lea both made really stupid town plays. Someone(lopen I think) was saying that they are going so far past why would scum do this to why would town do this. I have seen Ben make the masons play twice before and he got burned really bad the second time. He might be banking on that to do it a time as scum, but it's something i have only seen him do as town. Lea"s is a little more wtf, but I am afraid that it's too easy right now.
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benjamin3740
08/13/19 9:36:46 AM
#234:


Corrik7 posted...
Lopen, FD, Ben... Maybe. Still don't get the plan on Scare then. It's hard to wrap your brain around how dumb Ben's play was as any alignment.

Then what's more likely? I made dumb plays because I don't care to hide my scuminess or I made dumb plays because I don't have information and F'd things up this game?
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Corrik7
08/13/19 9:44:51 AM
#236:


benjamin3740 posted...
Corrik7 posted...
Lopen, FD, Ben... Maybe. Still don't get the plan on Scare then. It's hard to wrap your brain around how dumb Ben's play was as any alignment.

Then what's more likely? I made dumb plays because I don't care to hide my scuminess or I made dumb plays because I don't have information and F'd things up this game?

The likeliest is that you as scum tried to do something that was so scummy that it couldn't be scum.
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Corrik7
08/13/19 10:44:05 AM
#237:


Day is dead

##vote: ben
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Corrik7
08/13/19 10:45:10 AM
#238:


##unvote:
##vote: Forceful

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Hbthebattle
08/13/19 10:54:07 AM
#239:


Corrik7 posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Corrik7 posted...
Lopen, FD, Ben... Maybe. Still don't get the plan on Scare then. It's hard to wrap your brain around how dumb Ben's play was as any alignment.

Then what's more likely? I made dumb plays because I don't care to hide my scuminess or I made dumb plays because I don't have information and F'd things up this game?

The likeliest is that you as scum tried to do something that was so scummy that it couldn't be scum.

Look, I've seen scum Ben before and he's far more crafty and dangerous than Ben is here. Scum Ben puts far more care into his play than Ben has today. He really isn't scum here.
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MZero11
08/13/19 11:03:08 AM
#241:


##Vote: FD

Choo choo
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Hbthebattle
08/13/19 11:06:18 AM
#242:


Leanansidhe posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Corrik7 posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Corrik7 posted...
Lopen, FD, Ben... Maybe. Still don't get the plan on Scare then. It's hard to wrap your brain around how dumb Ben's play was as any alignment.

Then what's more likely? I made dumb plays because I don't care to hide my scuminess or I made dumb plays because I don't have information and F'd things up this game?

The likeliest is that you as scum tried to do something that was so scummy that it couldn't be scum.

Look, I've seen scum Ben before and he's far more crafty and dangerous than Ben is here. Scum Ben puts far more care into his play than Ben has today. He really isn't scum here.


What's an example of Scum Ben craftiness that's different from this? Lopen isn't saying he pulled a Sultan, the accusation is triple WIFOM.

During RDR2 mafia, Ben was scum MVP and was nearly unquestionably town- since he was "town leader", so to speak, he ensured discussion of him as scum was pretty much off the table. That's the kind of play I expect from scum Ben, not "haha that's too dumb to be scum, unless..." Ben takes his play far more carefully as scum- it's likely his actions here are just town!Ben's negligence.
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Lopen
08/13/19 11:17:10 AM
#243:


I heard Chris isn't terrible as scum either and here we are

People saying "this isn't like scum ___" because they're not playing the game well don't know what they're talking about. Different scum players adapt to different situations better than others. This could be "scum Ben who doesn't have enough time to try to be a town leader and tried a wacky strategy that isn't going to work"

Everyone has good and bad games. Some people are better as scum than others but even the best scum player can have a bad game. You need to analyze things in terms of "what the town motive is" here, not "he couldn't possibly play this poorly as scum" because you don't know that.
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Lopen
08/13/19 11:18:43 AM
#244:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik and Lopen both feel like players trying to over justify the votes that they have made/are sticking to. If Ben flips town I feel like Corrik has to be scum. Same with Lea and Lopen. Maybe it's just me getting inside my own head, but I am starting to feel like Ben and Lea both made really stupid town plays. Someone(lopen I think) was saying that they are going so far past why would scum do this to why would town do this. I have seen Ben make the masons play twice before and he got burned really bad the second time. He might be banking on that to do it a time as scum, but it's something i have only seen him do as town. Lea"s is a little more wtf, but I am afraid that it's too easy right now.


Based on what? Other than both of us having you on our scum lists, anyway.
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benjamin3740
08/13/19 11:20:52 AM
#245:


Leanansidhe posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Corrik7 posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Corrik7 posted...
Lopen, FD, Ben... Maybe. Still don't get the plan on Scare then. It's hard to wrap your brain around how dumb Ben's play was as any alignment.

Then what's more likely? I made dumb plays because I don't care to hide my scuminess or I made dumb plays because I don't have information and F'd things up this game?

The likeliest is that you as scum tried to do something that was so scummy that it couldn't be scum.

Look, I've seen scum Ben before and he's far more crafty and dangerous than Ben is here. Scum Ben puts far more care into his play than Ben has today. He really isn't scum here.


What's an example of Scum Ben craftiness that's different from this? Lopen isn't saying he pulled a Sultan, the accusation is triple WIFOM.

Whatever it is, it wouldn't have ended in me being lynched so easily! (Quadruple Wifom)
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IfGodCouldDie
08/13/19 11:27:30 AM
#246:


Lopen posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik and Lopen both feel like players trying to over justify the votes that they have made/are sticking to. If Ben flips town I feel like Corrik has to be scum. Same with Lea and Lopen. Maybe it's just me getting inside my own head, but I am starting to feel like Ben and Lea both made really stupid town plays. Someone(lopen I think) was saying that they are going so far past why would scum do this to why would town do this. I have seen Ben make the masons play twice before and he got burned really bad the second time. He might be banking on that to do it a time as scum, but it's something i have only seen him do as town. Lea"s is a little more wtf, but I am afraid that it's too easy right now.


Based on what? Other than both of us having you on our scum lists, anyway.

Try reading it again.
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08/13/19 11:28:08 AM
#247:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Lopen posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Corrik and Lopen both feel like players trying to over justify the votes that they have made/are sticking to. If Ben flips town I feel like Corrik has to be scum. Same with Lea and Lopen. Maybe it's just me getting inside my own head, but I am starting to feel like Ben and Lea both made really stupid town plays. Someone(lopen I think) was saying that they are going so far past why would scum do this to why would town do this. I have seen Ben make the masons play twice before and he got burned really bad the second time. He might be banking on that to do it a time as scum, but it's something i have only seen him do as town. Lea"s is a little more wtf, but I am afraid that it's too easy right now.


Based on what? Other than both of us having you on our scum lists, anyway.

Try reading it again.

Also I'm on Corriks neutral list not scum list.
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Lopen
08/13/19 11:28:26 AM
#248:


By the way this is probably the main reason I don't like IGCD, since I was asked.

IfGodCouldDie posted...
I have 5% left in my phone and my wife and I are going to watch Ozark and take my kids to a fair tomorrow. I'd rather it be night 2 during all this so i dont have a shit ton of stuff to read.


Then proceeds to hammer Sultan.

Don't see town IGCD doing this. Town IGCD doesn't think so highly of his potential contributions that he's going to end the day pre-emptively to ensure he's allowed to have them. Town IGCD just accepts that he won't be able to read everything and lets the day play out.

Considering we're looking 2 scum laying themselves down to kill the SK, a third hammering it just to be absolutely sure doesn't seem too weird to me.

I've also felt his suspicions to feel a bit bussy. Like he's very sure about the lynches based on not much perceived thinking on his end.
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Lopen
08/13/19 11:29:29 AM
#249:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Try reading it again.


I meant to explain how we're overjustifying votes.
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Lopen
08/13/19 11:41:41 AM
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benjamin3740 posted...
Never have I touted that. If that was how I was trying to portray myself you'd think I'd have brought it up myself. Also why IGCD scum? I read him town and so does Mzero, mr. "Never read IGCD wrong before"


Why the hell would you need to. It's like saying if you drove your car through the a Walmart storefront you'd feel the need to get out of the car and proclaim that you did it.
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