Board 8 > Nationalist politics topic 17: Man-made "climate change" is a hoax

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Remember when it was called "global warming"? Yeah, they had to expand a little because everyday observations were putting the narrative in danger.

Now, the facts:

Finnish study finds practically no evidence for man-made climate change

A new study conducted by a Finnish research team has found little evidence to support the idea of man-made climate change. The results of the study were soon corroborated by researchers in Japan.

If we pay attention to the fact that only a small part of the increased CO2 concentration is anthropogenic, we have to recognize that the anthropogenic climate change does not exist in practice.

Finnish paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1907.00165.pdf
Japanese paper: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190703121407.htm

In short:
Air pollution because of industry, etc.? Real problem that we must address!
Plastic in oceans? Real problem that we must address!
Man-made "climate change"? Hoax. Climate change is driven by solar cycles and the Earth's atmosphere, which humans are absolutely incapable of manipulating. Nature is a far bigger force than we can ever hope to be.
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who wants my nuts
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it must be so exhausting to constantly deny the realities of the world

How to respond...

Do I point out that the article you posted is six pages long, cites its own authors as sources 4 times out of 6, doesnt explain its methodology or data set to allow it to be replicated, and makes an x, therefore y conclusion, despite y, therefore x being equally valid?

Nah, youll just ignore that and claim that your one article is right, despite countless other articles contradicting it.

Option two, do I wonder why you couldnt find ANY nationalist news to post in a new topic over the weekend? Cause, I mean, three was some pretty big nationalist news on Saturday and Sunday. I wonder why you didnt post it?

Nah, neither of those is worth it. Youre just a waste of time.
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I'm surprised he isn't posting about how 8chan being temporarily taken offline is the end of free speech on the internet forever.
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i'll just repeat my question last time vlado brought up this study since he conveniently ignored it that time: why should i believe this one study and not the gazillion studies that state that man-made climate change does exist?
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

i'll just repeat my question last time vlado brought up this study since he conveniently ignored it that time: why should i believe this one study and not the gazillion studies that state that man-made climate change does exist?

Better question: why is it that we can never trust scientists due to them all pushing an agenda...but THIS scientist is okay to trust?
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FBike1 posted...

I'm surprised he isn't posting about how 8chan being temporarily taken offline is the end of free speech on the internet forever.

https://twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/status/1158374454264659968

Mr Lasastryke posted...

i'll just repeat my question last time vlado brought up this study since he conveniently ignored it that time: why should i believe this one study and not the gazillion studies that state that man-made climate change does exist?

I am content enough with you admitting it is a matter of belief. No use to go again into why the "climate change" nonsense is delicious for globalists. That said, I'll trust common sense and believe what the first post says. We are FAR TOO LITTLE, even as a collective, to make a lasting impact on nature. If humanity suddenly disappeared, it would take but a couple of decades for nature to completely reclaim, and not long after it would be as if we never existed. The man-made climate change myth is the height of human arrogance.

Another good source:

I did mean that man-made global warming would be much smaller than natural fluctuations in global temperature and, therefore, it would be physically impossible to detect the man-made global warming. Of course, human activities have some effect on global temperature. For example, cities are warmer than the land around them, so cities cause some warming. But the temperature rise from cities is too small to be detected when averaged over the entire surface of the planet, although this global warming from cities can be estimated by measuring the warming of all cities and their areas. Similarly, the global warming from man's emissions of greenhouse gases would be too small to be detected. Indeed, for reasons I have repeatedly reported, it is physically impossible for the man-made global warming to be large enough to be detected. If something exists but is too small to be detected then it only has an abstract existence; it does not have a real existence that has effects (observation of the effects would be its detection).

http://www.john-daly.com/history.htm
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Espeon posted...

Cause, I mean, three was some pretty big nationalist news on Saturday and Sunday. I wonder why you didnt post it?

You mean "national news in the US." No big deal here in Europe - we don't care that much about yet another shooting in the US - a land where the "diversity" makes it a certainty that there are such shootings every now and then.

But anyway, here's some data on those shootings:


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You are such a fucking dumbass

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LordoftheMorons posted...

You are such a fucking dumbass

^
Stellar example of "feels over facts."
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Actually, I was referring to your nationalist hero Narendra Modi essentially enforcing localized globalism on Kashmir. Surely youre upset by this. After all, you were all in favor of Russia annexing Crimea as a result of consolidating cultures, so surely forcing a distinct culture into Indian servitude would be bad, yes?

Also, Im glad to see you finally admitting that men are a problem, via the image you posted.
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Espeon posted...

How to respond...

Do I point out that the article you posted is six pages long, cites its own authors as sources 4 times out of 6, doesnt explain its methodology or data set to allow it to be replicated, and makes an x, therefore y conclusion, despite y, therefore x being equally valid?

Nah, youll just ignore that and claim that your one article is right, despite countless other articles contradicting it.

Option two, do I wonder why you couldnt find ANY nationalist news to post in a new topic over the weekend? Cause, I mean, three was some pretty big nationalist news on Saturday and Sunday. I wonder why you didnt post it?

Nah, neither of those is worth it. Youre just a waste of time.

That article offends me as someone with a high school knowledge of the scientific method
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Vlado posted...

I am content enough with you admitting it is a matter of belief.

i'm not a climate scientist and therefore i'm probably not as much on the "believers" side as you think. there's plenty of nuances to the finer details of the debate that i'm not going to make definitive statements on.

that being said, you're not a climate scientist either (are you?). so for you to accept one study as evidence and dismiss tons of alternative studies as bullshit is not "scientific" or "empirical" or "going by the facts." it's fucking dumb.

No use to go again into why the "climate change" nonsense is delicious for globalists.

this is just muffin's extremely stupid conspiracy theory in different words. "climate change furthers the goals of the left (bigger government), so OBVIOUSLY it doesn't actually exist and is just a hoax created by the left! QED!" you can't say that just because man-made climate change furthers the goals of leftists (or globalists), it necessarily doesn't exist. that's not how it works.

this is like saying "anti-immigrant rhetoric furthers the goals of racists (not allowing more brown people into your country), so OBVIOUSLY the idea that immigration from different cultures leads to problems in the west is just a hoax created by racists!" why would you ONLY apply this logic to climate change and not immigration?
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I mean, Vlado has now claimed, multiple times, that when nationalists commit terrorist acts and murder innocent people, its because theyre freedom fighting, waging war against the overwhelming forces of diversity.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

You are such a fucking dumbass

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Espeon posted...

Actually, I was referring to your nationalist hero Narendra Modi essentially enforcing localized globalism on Kashmir. Surely youre upset by this. After all, you were all in favor of Russia annexing Crimea as a result of consolidating cultures, so surely forcing a distinct culture into Indian servitude would be bad, yes?

Whoa. Didn't know you followed news outside of the US. Commendable.

Mr Lasastryke posted...

i'm not a climate scientist and therefore i'm probably not as much on the "believers" side as you think. there's plenty of nuances to the finer details of the debate that i'm not going to make definitive statements on.

that being said, you're not a climate scientist either (are you?). so for you to accept one study as evidence and dismiss tons of alternative studies as bullshit is not "scientific" or "empirical" or "going by the facts." it's fucking dumb.

It's not about the study, really. It's just proof I am right. Most of all, it's COMMON SENSE that humans cannot affect the freaking climate. What's next? CERN will cause black holes to appear? Come on!

Mr Lasastryke posted...

this is just muffin's extremely stupid conspiracy theory in different words. "climate change furthers the goals of the left (bigger government), so OBVIOUSLY it doesn't actually exist and is just a hoax created by the left! QED!" you can't say that just because man-made climate change furthers the goals of leftists (or globalists), it necessarily doesn't exist. that's not how it works.

this is like saying "anti-immigrant rhetoric furthers the goals of racists (not allowing more brown people into your country), so OBVIOUSLY the idea that immigration from different cultures leads to problems in the west is just a hoax created by racists!" why would you ONLY apply this logic to climate change and not immigration?

I say that's the reason it's perpetuated. Whether it exists is another story entirely. (It's common sense that it doesn't, as stated above.) Even if it really existed, it wouldn't matter one bit to those perpetuating it. What they want is power, not moderate temperatures.
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Vlado posted...

Most of all, it's COMMON SENSE that humans cannot affect the freaking climate.

again, i'm not a climate scientist, so i'm not about to make these general statements about what does and doesn't affect the climate. is it also "common sense" that humans cannot travel to the moon?

also, according to the quote you posted yourself in post #8, humans do "affect the freaking climate," so...
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

Vlado posted...

Most of all, it's COMMON SENSE that humans cannot affect the freaking climate.

again, i'm not a climate scientist, so i'm not about to make these general statements about what does and doesn't affect the climate. is it also "common sense" that humans cannot travel to the moon?

also, according to the quote you posted yourself in post #8, humans do "affect the freaking climate," so...

How about you read the whole quote. Sure, humans have impact, just like practically everything else. But it's negligible on the grand scale.
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Heh. RT looks at internet forums/memes/etc.:
https://www.rt.com/news/465911-8chan-incels-gamergate-donald-qanon/

It's pathetic to what lengths the mental gymnastics of will go in their endless quest to suppress free speech and once again become gatekeepers of information. It'll never happen.
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Salvini is great.



https://www.rt.com/news/465845-dj-salvini-beach-party/
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Vlado posted...

I did the legwork for everyone wondering. This is basically the Japanese equivalent of someone saying the LAMEstream media
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Except it's better because means trash. :)
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Data on US mass shootings of 2019 so far:


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Vlado posted...

Data on US mass shootings of 2019 so far:

your point?
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The talking point that shooters are "white supremacists" is fiction.
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On the other hand the talking point that it is almost always a man is still very true.
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pretty sure nobody is saying all mass shooters are white supremacists.
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Vlado posted...

And it's a witty phonetic wordplay.

So is LAMEstream Media though
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