Board 8 > Shooting in El Paso, looks like 20 dead

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Board 8 members openly supporting Antifa. Literally about to bring back unmasking laws in Portland, a liberal city, who hasn't had them since the KKK was prevalent due to them.

Sad to see this. Some of this board have become radicalized unfortunately.

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Paratroopa1 posted...

Antifa isn't an organization, antifa is anyone who participates in anti-fascist action, which to be clear, is a good thing. Fascism is bad. Antifa is good.

This is exactly why it is extremely deadly concerning that they are trying to designate antifa a terrorist organization. It isn't an organization at all - so what they are really trying to do is make it so that they can arrest or kill anyone under the guise of them being antifa for merely fighting fascism. If you are against fascism, you will be branded a terrorist. This is a country that sends terrorists to secret prisons where you can be legally tortured and the key will be thrown away without a trial. But the right wing is concerned about the folks throwing milk shakes at literal Nazi rallies, the people saying yes let's do genocides. Very concerned with stopping violence and very worried about big government!

Mr Lasastryke posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Thank you. This is all I asked. Condemn all idiots. The amount of people trying to jump thru hoops to say this easy response is astonishing. I respect that, red.

again, why do you demand that we condemn antifa in a topic about a white supremacist who just killed 20 people

Especially when he won't condemn white supremacists for the near-constant violence they're perpetuating throughout not just America, and throughout the world. Nope, gotta make sure that we single out Antifa as being equal to Neo-Nazis and the KKK, when none of the three have anything to do with the person who murdered people in El Paso.
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Corrik7 posted...

Board 8 members openly supporting Antifa. Literally about to bring back unmasking laws in Portland, a liberal city, who hasn't had them since the KKK was prevalent due to them.

Sad to see this. Some of this board have become radicalized unfortunately.

Corrik, you support white nationalists and racially-motivated terrorism. You refuse to condemn the people responsible for said violence, and instead deflect onto Antifa. You're so desperate to believe you're one of the "good guys" that you're defending terrorists. Congratulations.
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Remember this is Corrik that said that incels are just people that aren't having sex that want to because that's what the word means, but antifa can't mean it's literal meaning.
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Inviso posted...

Corrik, you support white nationalists and racially-motivated terrorism. You refuse to condemn the people responsible for said violence, and instead deflect onto Antifa. You're so desperate to believe you're one of the "good guys" that you're defending terrorists. Congratulations.

Yeah, no. I support no terrorists of any sort. I don't care what ideology they are nor their cause.

I never have supported racism of any sort. I am a nationalist but that is for every person, with no distinction between gender, race, or status.

Sorry. You can try so hard, but my actions speak louder than your false words.

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Shaduln posted...

Remember this is Corrik that said that incels are just people that aren't having sex that want to because that's what the word means, but antifa can't mean it's literal meaning.

I was corrected to what you were referring to in that discussion.

I believe we are clear to what I am referring to here.

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Corrik7 posted...

I am a nationalist

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Corrik7 posted...

Shaduln posted...

Remember this is Corrik that said that incels are just people that aren't having sex that want to because that's what the word means, but antifa can't mean it's literal meaning.

I was corrected to what you were referring to in that discussion.

I believe we are clear to what I am referring to here.

Except that people are saying "hey we don't support people claiming to be antifa attacking people but we support anti-facism" and you take that to mean supporting whatever you think antifa is.
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Corrik7 posted...

Inviso posted...

Corrik, you support white nationalists and racially-motivated terrorism. You refuse to condemn the people responsible for said violence, and instead deflect onto Antifa. You're so desperate to believe you're one of the "good guys" that you're defending terrorists. Congratulations.

Yeah, no. I support no terrorists of any sort. I don't care what ideology they are nor their cause.

I never have supported racism of any sort. I am a nationalist but that is for every person, with no distinction between gender, race, or status.

Sorry. You can try so hard, but my actions speak louder than your false words.

You are literally incapable of condemning a mass murdering terrorist, or the violent rhetoric that inspired his actions. Youre more concerned with making it clear that there are left-wingers who are violent too.

You support terrorism. Period. Its not even a surprise that, when a straight, white, Christian man posts a manifesto about murdering illegal immigrants, your response is to jump into immediate defense mode with all terrorists matter.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

I didn't think we were unclear on this.

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Espeon posted...

You are literally incapable of condemning a mass murdering terrorist, or the violent rhetoric that inspired his actions. Youre more concerned with making it clear that there are left-wingers who are violent too.

You support terrorism. Period. Its not even a surprise that, when a straight, white, Christian man posts a manifesto about murdering illegal immigrants, your response is to jump into immediate defense mode with all terrorists matter.

Yeah, you just lied. I have harshly come down on right terrorist groups. I was one of the biggest condemners of the Charlottesville situation.

You just are reaching now.

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UltimaterializerX posted...

Imagine if ANY conservative defended the idiot that shot up El Paso.

People celebrated. Literally.

Shaduln posted...

Except that people are saying "hey we don't support people claiming to be antifa attacking people but we support anti-facism" and you take that to mean supporting whatever you think antifa is.

I think there is a misconception then. I am asking for condemnation of Antifa as a collective which is out terrorizing people.

Not for a condemnation of having anti-fascist views.

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TomNook posted...

because if posted a right source, it would be like "this doesn't count becuase it's right wing" and if I posted a left source "this doesn't count because it's left wing".

The source doesn't change the reality.

It does help determine whether it's a rumor or actually confirmed though. The fact is it wasn't confirmed and you posted it as such. That's the problem.
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Corrik7 posted...

Espeon posted...

You are literally incapable of condemning a mass murdering terrorist, or the violent rhetoric that inspired his actions. Youre more concerned with making it clear that there are left-wingers who are violent too.

You support terrorism. Period. Its not even a surprise that, when a straight, white, Christian man posts a manifesto about murdering illegal immigrants, your response is to jump into immediate defense mode with all terrorists matter.

Yeah, you just lied. I have harshly come down on right terrorist groups. I was one of the biggest condemners of the Charlottesville situation.

You just are reaching now.

You are refusing, RIGHT NOW to condemn right-wing terrorism.
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It's really telling that the go-to incident used to display violent Antifa attacks was actually a lone dude deliberately attempting to destroy equipment and structures without harming actual people.
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Leafeon13N posted...

People celebrated. Literally.

And those people are scum then.

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

It's really telling that the go-to incident used to display violent Antifa attacks was actually a lone dude deliberately attempting to destroy equipment and structures without harming actual people.

Guess you need to wield an assault rifle to do that.



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Inviso posted...

You are refusing, RIGHT NOW to condemn right-wing terrorism.

You are trying to act like Republicans are terrorists and half of America is.

Yeah, you are speaking irrationally. You can only reach so far before you realize how sad your argument is.

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Corrik and the radical right won't condemn white nationalism because it doesn't buck the status quo at all- it actually enforces it, and as long as it only scares non-white people they won't call it terrorism. ANTIFA does buck the status quo even if they don't murder people, so they are immediately condemned. The radical right only understands two things; money and violence, and I'm all out of money.

Corrik7 posted...

You are trying to act like Republicans are terrorists and half of America is.

The only people equating Republicans and all white people to white supremacists are you and Seph and it's honestly baffling
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Corrik argued for 5 pages about how we should condemn Antifa as well, comparing them to actual murders such as the KKK and Neo-Nazis.

For some reason, I can't imagine him giving even half as much of a shit against anyone else.

Here's a tip. Anyone going "All Lives Matter" about a subject, doesn't care about the subject being discussed. They just want to end reasonable discussion or switch topics.
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Hey Corrik, is Black Lives Matter also a terrorist organization because someone on its extreme fringes killed some cops at one of their protests?
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Also his "You don't have to kill people to be a terrorist" argument, I wonder if he shares the same sentiment when it comes to the black community and their growing distrust of police?
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Corrik7 posted...

Inviso posted...

You are refusing, RIGHT NOW to condemn right-wing terrorism.

You are trying to act like Republicans are terrorists and half of America is.

Yeah, you are speaking irrationally. You can only reach so far before you realize how sad your argument is.

I'm acting like TRUMP SUPPORTERS (yourself included) who enable and embolden the sick, twisted people who then act on their rhetoric and commit murder, are terrorists, yes. I mean, it shouldn't be that difficult of a concept to understand. You're the one claiming that an amorphous group like antifa should be on the receiving end of wide-spread condemnation, and terrorists SHOULD be condemned. But it's kinda difficult to take you seriously when ANY instance of left-wing violence (extremely rare, mind you) is labeled Antifa, but the CONSTANT stream of right-wing, nationalist violence (a fucking NATURAL BYPRODUCT of nationalism) is just a series of lone wolves with no connection whatsoever, and no reason to lump them under the umbrella of any overarching group.

People like you, who defend these right-wing murderers, are the reason they're so thrilled to go out and kill again, and again, and again. And I know that you think this shit is just another kind of trolling, but it's not fucking funny. People are actually being MURDERED, because of terrorist-enabling losers like you, and Ulti, and Sephy, and Vlado, and Smuffin, and Red Sox, who ALL just sit behind your keyboards, laughing at how "triggered" the libs are, while emotionally disturbed white guys take your words to heart and go on shooting sprees.

You are part of the problem, and you need to stop claiming some fucked up brand of moral superiority and victimhood when people are fucking murdered.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

It's really telling that the go-to incident used to display violent Antifa attacks was actually a lone dude deliberately attempting to destroy equipment and structures without harming actual people.

There are many incidents I could link to that are against the ToU here. Antifa recently beat Andy Ngo to brain damage and 15 of them beat up a Hispanic Trump supporter in New York City, but the articles all have pictures in them that aren't allowed on this site.

This is such a cop-out lmao, if it's an image on the New York Times or whatever, it's not going to get modded.
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Terrorist-enablers aren't terrorists. They aren't great though obviously.
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so a topic about a white supremacist mass shooting has turned into a whataboutANTIFA topic huh
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foolm0r0n posted...

TomNook posted...

because if posted a right source, it would be like "this doesn't count becuase it's right wing" and if I posted a left source "this doesn't count because it's left wing".

The source doesn't change the reality.

It does help determine whether it's a rumor or actually confirmed though. The fact is it wasn't confirmed and you posted it as such. That's the problem.

What would a confirmation look like to you?

Pictures matching the same guy (complete with multiple face pics, and multiple pics with his tattoo visible), as well as references to Dayton?

I suppose absolute confirmation would be police/FBI saying they found that Twitter logged in on his computer, but we wouldn't get that so soon after a tragedy anyway.

I was just kind of hoping people would have some common sense, and confirmation would be based on actually reading and looking. I'm probably too old for this site, as common sense isn't as common now.
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Grimlyn posted...

so a topic about a white supremacist mass shooting has turned into a whataboutANTIFA topic huh

Topic is about both shootings tbqh.

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Until they start calling them what they are, terrorists, no they aren't "condemning" a damn thing.

For 8 years they complained about Obama not using the exact phrase "Radical Islamic Terrorists", so you can keep that same fucking energy when it comes to the people killing us in our own back yards(Metaphorically speaking).

Kinda of like how Trump trips over himself to call out any attacks that was committed by a immigrant, but took his sweet time commenting on the situation on Charlottesville.

Keep that same energy.
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foolm0r0n posted...

The only people equating Republicans and all white people to white supremacists are you and Seph and it's honestly baffling

Yeah, you haven't read Inviso's posts. Please take time to read before making very bad hot takes. Thanks.

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TomNook posted...

What would a confirmation look like to you?

A manifesto
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Corrik7 posted...

Yeah, you haven't read Inviso's posts. Please take time to read before making very bad hot takes. Thanks.

Okay, it's you two and Inviso. Go make a new topic and continue your party there.
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Inviso posted...

You are part of the problem, and you need to stop claiming some fucked up brand of moral superiority and victimhood when people are fucking murdered.

This coming from Inviso is freaking wild.

Just wow.

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Grimlyn posted...

so a topic about a white supremacist mass shooting has turned into a whataboutANTIFA topic huh

No one wants to talk about actual solutions to mass shootings (my post was ignored)
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Hey Corrik, is Black Lives Matter also a terrorist organization because someone on its extreme fringes killed some cops at one of their protests?

For awhile they were starting to trend that way. After the 2016 election, they seemed to disappear. Antifa seems to have taken over the realm of extremist left. I actually wonder how much overlap exists there, if any.

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foolm0r0n posted...

No one wants to talk about actual solutions to mass shootings (my post was ignored)

I posted an idea for gun control and was laughed at because "Americans need their guns" posed by a liberal surprisingly enough.

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alrighty I think this topic has outlived its usefulness wouldn't y'all say

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foolm0r0n posted...

Grimlyn posted...

so a topic about a white supremacist mass shooting has turned into a whataboutANTIFA topic huh

No one wants to talk about actual solutions to mass shootings (my post was ignored)

My solution is FAR stricter gun control laws across the board. But your response to Corrik already pretty much stated where your opinion on the gun control debate lies, so I don't really have the energy to debate the issue. I'm sorry. I'm just burnt out and disgusted right now.
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foolm0r0n posted...

TomNook posted...

What would a confirmation look like to you?

A manifesto

For motive? Yeah, I absolutely agree with you on that. I've said from the very start that we didn't know anything about his motive. My first two posts included me saying: "Not saying the shooting was politically motivated, just that he was very anti-right, and also supported Antifa in some way. There isn't any confirmed motivation for the shooting at this time, especially with the involvement of his sister, it's probable that it doesn't have anything to do with politics." I was just pulling character assessment from posts he made where he actually retweet Antifa stuff. I never made assumptions about why he did the killing, and I won't until evidence comes to light. I really am trying to be neutral about it. I was simply posting things straight from his twitter. I don't get why people jumped down my throat for that. I guess not picking a side really does rile some up.
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Corrik7 posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

No one wants to talk about actual solutions to mass shootings (my post was ignored)

I posted an idea for gun control and was laughed at because "Americans need their guns" posed by a liberal surprisingly enough.

Foolmo said actual solutions though.
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mnkboy907 posted...

Foolmo said actual solutions though.

So we can't discuss ideas for solutions unless they are something you can agree on? I mean, let's be serious. There is a republican Senate. No ideas are actual solutions with that

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