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swordz9 08/28/19 10:08:56 AM #202: |
Whats hilarious is this whole 16 thing. 16 is literally built to be used with Gohan, but because 16 is INT and doesnt have Kamehameha the only way you can use the two together and get stats boosts is under LR Cells leader skill. Gohan also needs a SS Goku to bring out the best of his attack power so basically your best bet is to get the new LR Cell, new LR Gohan, new 16 and then run Cell as leader so you can use the cards. Even doing that you will likely never see Cell or Gohan transform though. Also Im sure part 2 will have a new LR SS Goku to be put into the team since the current Android/Cell Category SS Gokus arent too amazing.
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The Mana Sword 08/28/19 10:09:00 AM #203: |
Okay, I guess if there's flavor reasons people are upset that's fine. That part doesn't matter to me quite as much, I'm kinda just looking for good units to keep building out my teams.
I just know wanting busted units doesn't always work out, given my experience with FFBE where a unit they released back in April still hasn't been surpassed, making most of the banners since then completely worthless. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GANON1025 08/28/19 10:12:48 AM #204: |
Id say dokkan battle has done a pretty good job at avoiding any kind of esther situations
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Emeraldegg 08/28/19 10:24:37 AM #205: |
Yeah swordz has the right of it. Plus this gohan's animation was honestly a big deal after how laughably bad the other LR Gohan's was.
Honestly I'm fine with cell's 30%, even if it is a bit low it's still doable, you just have to be careful with rotations. But to my knowledge, straight up requiring a specific character on a team to meet a condition as in gohan's case, this is the first time it's been done, and quite frankly it sucks. Combining that with an extra HP requirement, it means that the thing everyone was hyped for, doesn't necessarily suck, but it's not what we wanted. Not to mention that nowadays, most units probably are too good for the content we get besides SBR, so there's just this air of "I have to go out of my way to see this cool thing" rather than "This cool thing will help me win battles" Even cell, who I just mentioned I don't mind a lot, suffers from this, because why else would you intentionally let your HP drop below 30%? When there are many units in today's meta that can take scratch damage from the toughest dokkan bosses? --- I'm a greener egg than the eggs from dr. seuss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 08/28/19 10:30:55 AM #206: |
The new Piccolo needs a Namekian on his team too. I mean the ideal one is the new Nail they made that is in his banner, but yeah we might be trending towards characters needing other characters in your team to bring out their best
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Emeraldegg 08/28/19 10:36:04 AM #207: |
Even that makes more sense gameplay wise than 16 on gohan since they're both namekians, chances are that piccolo and nail will go great together. Like you said, 16 doesn't even fit in gohan's category. I guess I should amend my statement that requiring dudes sucks as a blanket statement, since I like the idea of piccolo and nail, but it needs to be done right imo.
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swordz9 08/28/19 10:38:44 AM #208: |
Yeah, the Nail is awesome and was made to be the ideal Namekian card youd run for Piccolo. This 16 stuff just makes no sense of any kind. When you look at the 4 new cards they just make no sense at all. Its like they threw from a hat full of random ideas and slapped them together
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Emeraldegg 08/28/19 10:49:48 AM #209: |
I mean it makes sense thematically but...there needs to be a balance you know? You shouldn't sacrifice gameplay viability for thematics if you can help it. I feel like they could have done both, but just decided theme was more important.
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Emeraldegg 08/28/19 6:12:56 PM #210: |
Man it sucks looking up the full power tier list and seeing all these LRs I don't have
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The Mana Sword 08/28/19 9:42:46 PM #211: |
So I have the new Goku/Gohan unit maxed out and rainbowd, but still have like 6 additional copies of the card. Any reason to hang on to those?
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KommunistKoala 08/28/19 9:43:33 PM #212: |
you should awaken another one at SA level 5 to combine with the original one when the EZA comes out, as the special attack level for the original will go up to 15
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The Mana Sword 08/28/19 9:59:39 PM #213: |
Ah, didnt realize these units were getting EZAd
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swordz9 08/28/19 10:01:47 PM #214: |
Yeah, I dont think we know the date for the EZA yet though.
Also just realized the irony that the Kamehameha leader will never use his Kamehameha due to the restrictions lol Also also I forgot if I mentioned it, but the banners supposedly go live tomorrow around 4-5pm eastern ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Emeraldegg 08/28/19 10:07:21 PM #215: |
I did another multi on the dokkan banner that's up now and got a SV intro, so I got hyped, but all I got was a dupe TEQ SSJ3 Gotenks and a dupe Masked Saiyan
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swordz9 08/28/19 10:09:17 PM #216: |
Damn that sucks. Its also a bad idea to pull there though. I dont think anything other than a VB animation means an LR either for that banner. At least the EZA Gotenks is decent
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Emeraldegg 08/28/19 10:13:43 PM #217: |
I know, I just have poor self control.
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swordz9 08/28/19 11:18:20 PM #218: |
Theres gonna be a Battlefield Krillin card and its surprisingly great looking
Leader Skill: "Androids/Cell Saga" Category Ki +3, HP, ATK, DEF +120% Super Attack: Solar Flare - Raises DEF and causes supreme damage with a high chance to stun Passive: This is What I Can Do - ATK & DEF +80%; Additional ATK & DEF +7% for each "Androids/Cell Saga" Category ally on the team; Ki +4 as the first attacker in a turn; Ki +2 as the second attacker in a turn; Perform an additional Super Attack if there is an "Androids" Category enemy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GANON1025 08/28/19 11:45:01 PM #219: |
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swordz9 08/28/19 11:46:55 PM #220: |
Seems like it. Also seems like no changes made to the cards despite the overwhelming negative comments they got on their official Twitter and stuff
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swordz9 08/29/19 7:37:59 AM #221: |
Seeing people say that despite Cell looking good on paper hes underwhelming even when rainbowd.
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GANON1025 08/29/19 9:57:15 AM #222: |
Yeah that stuff has been going back and forth, I want to see what the banners are like first, but I still like cell and the category enough that I might go for him. Plus its hard to know if underwhelming means actually underwhelming or hes not completely broken
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swordz9 08/29/19 10:00:56 AM #223: |
He lacks Ki links sadly and even loses Shocking Speed going from TUR to LR
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swordz9 08/29/19 12:58:35 PM #224: |
GANON1025 posted...
Yeah that stuff has been going back and forth, I want to see what the banners are like first, but I still like cell and the category enough that I might go for him. Plus its hard to know if underwhelming means actually underwhelming or hes not completely broken Seems hes worse than all the other DF exclusive LRs apparently and also worse than TEQ Broly, Caulifla/Kale and Goku/Frieza. At least thats what Im seeing people say. You also cant use his active skill until 3 turns after he transforms from the sound of it and transforming with him is fairly difficult.... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HashtagSEP 08/29/19 1:32:24 PM #225: |
Cleared the new bush rush. Could've done it easily with no items, but I used one as a precaution early on.
This is the first time I've ever felt like my team was like, overpowered. When I first came back to this, I was running a TEQ Vegito Blue rainbow team that was good, but started to feel like it was slowly being power creeped out before too long. Now, I'm running a Movie Heroes/Fusion team of AGL Super Saiyan Gogeta TEQ Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta STR Super Gogeta PHY Super Saiyan Goku & Super Saiyan Vegeta PHY Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks AGL Super Saiyan 3 Goku And it just blows through everything. It feels like it'll be a long time before I hit a wall, and that's a super good feeling. --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 08/29/19 1:44:21 PM #226: |
Just under 3 hours now guys. Whos hype still?
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The Mana Sword 08/29/19 1:45:59 PM #227: |
I'm sorta hype, but mostly because I don't have a huge stock of strong cards like most of you guys, so this is still a nice boost for me.
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KommunistKoala 08/29/19 1:50:25 PM #228: |
depends on the banners. likely will do discount summons on both either way. Gohan seems strong regardless of transformation so might pull more for him. I do want to have some stones for Kale and Cauliflower though
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swordz9 08/29/19 2:00:54 PM #229: |
Supposedly theyre gonna he really good. Good enough that the leakers are going all in on them anyways. I just hope Gohans has Kid Goku and Transforming Vegeta. If Cell has Metal Cooler and Super Buu I might pull just for a shot at more SBR clears
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GANON1025 08/29/19 2:00:57 PM #230: |
I have a ton of stones right now, so if the banners are good Ill pull. I still want Cell even if he does turn out to be middling.
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GANON1025 08/29/19 2:01:51 PM #231: |
Oh if Metal Cooler is there Im definitely pulling. I REALLY want to run a Frieza clan team.
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skullbone 08/29/19 2:14:49 PM #232: |
I'm not super hype but seeing PHY LR Cell on Cell's new banner would definitely motivate me to pull more. Gohan's category seems busted and I have most of the broken cards to put there but it's a little less exciting knowing you can't even run Gohan to his full potential on his own team unless you gimp the team with Android 16
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Emeraldegg 08/29/19 2:23:07 PM #233: |
Yeah my main goal right now is to beat all the super battle roads, so I'm going to stop throwing my stones at the latest banners willy nilly I think to try and focus on specific units that I feel I need. So it depends on what these banners are, though if they're discount then that's tough to pass up anyway.
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HashtagSEP 08/29/19 2:40:12 PM #234: |
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do.
Like I could reeeeeally use AGL Turles so I should probably just stop pulling on every single thing if it doesn't have him --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Emeraldegg 08/29/19 3:04:06 PM #235: |
In other news, I'm a ****in idiot because I was on the last stage of pure saiyans SBR with 3 items left and got distracted, and let there be a turn without any dmg reduction and got roflstomped >.>
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GANON1025 08/29/19 3:04:51 PM #236: |
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The Mana Sword 08/29/19 3:05:26 PM #237: |
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swordz9 08/29/19 3:07:03 PM #238: |
Super Battle Road. Dont attempt it since youre pretty new. Its the hardest mode in the game where even the best teams can be stomped if youre unlucky. Like enemies do neutral super attacks for over 120,000 damage even with a 40% damage reduction item active. Its nuts and basically end game content
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Emeraldegg 08/29/19 3:09:49 PM #239: |
Not to mention they are type/category restrictive anyway, even if they weren't difficult, so without a wide array of units you can't try anyway. And without a lead for that type/category there's no point.
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The Mana Sword 08/29/19 3:10:53 PM #240: |
I see
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GANON1025 08/29/19 3:15:50 PM #241: |
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skullbone 08/29/19 3:23:01 PM #242: |
Yeah they do take like 20 minutes sometimes but it's really the only thing to work toward once you start steamrolling dokkan events.
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Emeraldegg 08/29/19 3:27:01 PM #243: |
Yeah honestly it's what keeps me invested. But then I go through phases anyway where I'll not play for some time and then come back later
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swordz9 08/29/19 4:06:38 PM #244: |
30~mins or less now, but expect server issues
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GANON1025 08/29/19 4:40:54 PM #245: |
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Emeraldegg 08/29/19 4:47:47 PM #246: |
Yeahhh...I'm torn on which to pull on. I need AGL SSJ Gogeta and SSJ3 Bardock, but also STR Super Buu and PHY SSJ Broly and INT Goku black.
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KommunistKoala 08/29/19 4:48:36 PM #247: |
Gohan: Int 16, Trans Vegeta, AGL SSJ Gogeta, Trans Goku, Android 17, SSJ3 Bardock, TEQ Vegito Blue, STR Ult. Gohan, INT Ult. Gohan
Cell: AGL Cell Jr, Trans Buu, Phys SSJ Broly, Trans Frieza, INT Goku Black, PHY Goku Black, STR Rose, STR Perfect Cell, TEQ Perfect Cell Wish Metal Cooler was there but otherwise basically as good as it gets without having other LRs --- does anyone even read this ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 08/29/19 4:51:10 PM #248: |
Gohan multi 1 - AGL Gogeta 3rd dupe damn wish he wasnt on it lol. Pandel 3rd dupe.
Gohan multi 2 - INT Super Vegeta!!! Gohan multi 3 - INT 16 and bleh TEQ Pikkon Gohan multi 4 - AGL GT Goku dupe lame Gohan multi 5 - Brapan dupe and dupe PHY buff Trunks Gohan multi 6 - dupe GA Bardock, dupe GA SS3 Goku and dupe AGL Ult Gohan Gohan multi 7 - dupe INT Mai Gohan multi 8 - PHY Gohan Movie heroes support Gohan multi 9 - fake into dupe PHY 17 and dupe garbage Majuub Gohan multi 10 - dupe Transforming Goku I dont want lol, dupe STR Godku mine is rainbow already and dupe Kid Gohan on Icarus Gohan multi 11 - dupe trash INT Vegito Gohan multi 12 - feeling despair right about now and DOUBLE SCREEN CRACK but that doesnt mean LR on DF LR banners fuck fuck its AGL Goku again argh ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KommunistKoala 08/29/19 4:54:51 PM #249: |
got Cell on the 2nd multi
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KommunistKoala 08/29/19 4:56:59 PM #250: |
...and Gohan on the first multi
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KommunistKoala 08/29/19 5:00:53 PM #251: |
got one more Gohan with the free multi
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