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BaiusGaltar 07/15/19 10:56:57 PM #51:	s0nicfan posted... BaiusGaltar posted... s0nicfan posted... BaiusGaltar posted... s0nicfan posted... BaiusGaltar posted... First EUROPEAN country. United States OR Canada. These laws function completely differently, with different aims. They are between states that have agreed to help, and share the load. What this law does is just stop them from seeking asylum. Now, they'll only be able to take refuge in countries that are just as bad and have the same problems that they're fleeing from. Not the same, at all. Are you saying literally every south and central American country is as bad or worse as Venezuela? Do you even realize how unbelievably racist that is? You sure got me, bro. Fact is, the laws are completely different, and to compare them to what trump is doing is intellectually dishonest. But they're not. No South American can apply for asylum in Canada by walking through the USA. They would need to fly there somehow or boat around the entire country. Fact is, you're assuming no south or central American country is a stable functioning nation. Venezuela isn't in central America. The gang violence in central America is widespread The geography of central America gives little freedome of movement under this law. The Canadian United States law is an AGREEMENT aimed to HELP refugees. Fail on every level. Right, it's in South America. So are Argentina Bolivia Brazil Chile Colombia Ecuador Guyana Paraguay Peru Suriname and Uruguay. Mexicans, whom ARE in central America, can still apply for asylum at the US under these changes. Mexico is in North America...nnd only Mexico will be able to help. Which is why this law is different. The other two are intended to HELP refugees, this one is NOT HELP refugees. That's what makes it wrong. How do you not see that? Or, maybe you do, and like it. --- Previously, on Gattelstar Balactica... <cite>BaiusGaltar posted [p:924744420] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaiusGaltar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaiusGaltar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaiusGaltar posted...</cite> <quote>First EUROPEAN country. United States OR Canada. These laws function completely differently, with different aims. They are between states that have agreed to help, and share the load. What this law does is just stop them from seeking asylum. Now, they'll only be able to take refuge in countries that are just as bad and have the same problems that they're fleeing from. Not the same, at all.</quote> Are you saying literally every south and central American country is as bad or worse as Venezuela? Do you even realize how unbelievably racist that is?</quote> You sure got me, bro. Fact is, the laws are completely different, and to compare them to what trump is doing is intellectually dishonest.</quote> But they're not. No South American can apply for asylum in Canada by walking through the USA. They would need to fly there somehow or boat around the entire country. Fact is, you're assuming no south or central American country is a stable functioning nation.</quote> Venezuela isn't in central America. The gang violence in central America is widespread The geography of central America gives little freedome of movement under this law. The Canadian United States law is an AGREEMENT aimed to HELP refugees. Fail on every level.</quote> Right, it's in South America. So are Argentina Bolivia Brazil Chile Colombia Ecuador Guyana Paraguay Peru Suriname and Uruguay. Mexicans, whom ARE in central America, can still apply for asylum at the US under these changes.</quote> Mexico is in North America...nnd only Mexico will be able to help. Which is why this law is different. The other two are intended to HELP refugees, this one is NOT HELP refugees. That's what makes it wrong. How do you not see that? Or, maybe you do, and like it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
muchdran 07/15/19 10:59:16 PM #52:	<cite>muchdran posted [p:924744519] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 07/15/19 11:02:27 PM #53:	s0nicfan posted... Most of Europe already follows this rule: EU isnt a country --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:924744665] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Most of Europe already follows this rule:</quote> EU isnt a country</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EternalDivide 07/15/19 11:08:26 PM #54:	evil_zombie11 posted... I don't get why people on this board want to turn the US into a third world country by inviting all these people in but whatever. Ignorance. Group think. Earns brownie points among the like minded. --- FFVII Remake: A disaster in the making. I'll laugh at whatever I find funny whether you like it or not. <cite>EternalDivide posted [p:924744880] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>evil_zombie11 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why people on this board want to turn the US into a third world country by inviting all these people in but whatever.</quote> Ignorance. Group think. Earns brownie points among the like minded.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaiusGaltar 07/15/19 11:14:58 PM #56:	EternalDivide posted... evil_zombie11 posted... I don't get why people on this board want to turn the US into a third world country by inviting all these people in but whatever. Ignorance. Group think. Earns brownie points among the like minded. Very few are saying accept everyone, we reject most asylum cases already. This law is just xenophobic. --- Previously, on Gattelstar Balactica... <cite>BaiusGaltar posted [p:924745109] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>EternalDivide posted...</cite> <quote><cite>evil_zombie11 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why people on this board want to turn the US into a third world country by inviting all these people in but whatever.</quote> Ignorance. Group think. Earns brownie points among the like minded.</quote> Very few are saying accept everyone, we reject most asylum cases already. This law is just xenophobic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaterLink 07/15/19 11:17:33 PM #57:	evil_zombie11 posted... I don't get why people on this board want to turn the US into a third world country by inviting all these people in but whatever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV1Mb_DPVtw" data-time=" --- https://i.imgtc.com/faZjEQp.jpg <cite>WaterLink posted [p:924745192] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>evil_zombie11 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why people on this board want to turn the US into a third world country by inviting all these people in but whatever.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV1Mb_DPVtw" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 07/15/19 11:19:29 PM #58:	EternalDivide posted... Ignorance. Group think. those are common reasons for opposing immigration yeah <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:924745266] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>EternalDivide posted...</cite> <quote>Ignorance. Group think. </quote> those are common reasons for opposing immigration yeah</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 07/15/19 11:41:32 PM #61:	CrimsonRage posted... evil_zombie11 posted... I don't get why people on this board want to turn the US into a third world country by inviting all these people in but whatever. so more brown people means the us will suddenly become a third world country? the sad thing is you probably don't consider what you said racist. or maybe you do and that's why you said it because trolling But apparently it's not racist to openly state that no other brown countries, most much closer in distance than the US to these people, are capable of or safe enough to support refugees. That only this mostly white country is safe enough for them which is why it's okay if they want to skip through all the other brown ones to get here. And they also can't legally pass through this country to get to Canada for asylum, which is somehow about Canada being compassionate and totally not them using the USA as a buffer. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:924745954] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>evil_zombie11 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why people on this board want to turn the US into a third world country by inviting all these people in but whatever.</quote> so more brown people means the us will suddenly become a third world country? the sad thing is you probably don't consider what you said racist. or maybe you do and that's why you said it because trolling</quote> But apparently it's not racist to openly state that no other brown countries, most much closer in distance than the US to these people, are capable of or safe enough to support refugees. That only this mostly white country is safe enough for them which is why it's okay if they want to skip through all the other brown ones to get here. And they also can't legally pass through this country to get to Canada for asylum, which is somehow about Canada being compassionate and totally not them using the USA as a buffer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BillyKidd 07/15/19 11:51:58 PM #62:	TreyFlowers posted... It's not illegal to seek asylum. it is illegal to enter a country, not at a port of entry, and claim asylum after you get caught. --- Tho I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil. For I'm the meanest mofo in the whole f'n valley <cite>BillyKidd posted [p:924746295] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>TreyFlowers posted...</cite> <quote>It's not illegal to seek asylum.</quote> it is illegal to enter a country, not at a port of entry, and claim asylum after you get caught.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Savoots 07/15/19 11:52:50 PM #63:	Rob Cesternino posted... According to the plan published in the Federal Register, migrants who pass through another country in this case, Mexico on their way to the US will be ineligible for asylum. That sounds like good reasoning....At least on paper. --- The word "Racism" is like ketchup. It can be put on practically anything and demanding evidence makes you racist. -Thomas Sowell <cite>Savoots posted [p:924746322] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rob Cesternino posted...</cite> <quote>According to the plan published in the Federal Register, migrants who pass through another country in this case, Mexico on their way to the US will be ineligible for asylum. </quote> That sounds like good reasoning....At least on paper.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 07/16/19 12:00:09 AM #64:	BillyKidd posted... TreyFlowers posted... It's not illegal to seek asylum. it is illegal to enter a country, not at a port of entry, and claim asylum after you get caught. nope it isnt doesnt matter how they enter they can seek asylum anyway and the requirement to request asylum is to be inside the country trump tried to stop them from seeking it by preventing them from entering so hes pretty much forcing them to enter by any means they can to do it --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:924746549] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>BillyKidd posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TreyFlowers posted...</cite> <quote>It's not illegal to seek asylum.</quote> it is illegal to enter a country, not at a port of entry, and claim asylum after you get caught.</quote> nope it isnt doesnt matter how they enter they can seek asylum anyway and the requirement to request asylum is to be inside the country trump tried to stop them from seeking it by preventing them from entering so hes pretty much forcing them to enter by any means they can to do it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaiusGaltar 07/16/19 12:01:26 AM #65:	s0nicfan posted... CrimsonRage posted... evil_zombie11 posted... I don't get why people on this board want to turn the US into a third world country by inviting all these people in but whatever. so more brown people means the us will suddenly become a third world country? the sad thing is you probably don't consider what you said racist. or maybe you do and that's why you said it because trolling But apparently it's not racist to openly state that no other brown countries, most much closer in distance than the US to these people, are capable of or safe enough to support refugees. That only this mostly white country is safe enough for them which is why it's okay if they want to skip through all the other brown ones to get here. And they also can't legally pass through this country to get to Canada for asylum, which is somehow about Canada being compassionate and totally not them using the USA as a buffer. It's about the government's, not the people. It's the the same reason why this law doesn't make Americans racist or xenophobic. The government's of Central American countries are struggling with gang violence. It's not about Cananda being compassionate, by not accepting refugees that have come to the US first It's about sharing the load, to better help people. Refugees come from all over, if refuge from Burma lands in Canada, they must apply in Canada. They could have first stopped in any other country, and still applied to either. The CanadaUnited States Safe Third Country Agreement, officially the Agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government of the United States of America for cooperation in the examination of refugee status claims from nationals of third countries,[1] is a treaty between the governments of Canada and the United States to better manage the flow of refugee claimants at the shared land border Honestly, did you look at the sources you reposted or did you just see a source, and decide that was good enough for you? --- Previously, on Gattelstar Balactica... <cite>BaiusGaltar posted [p:924746588] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>evil_zombie11 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why people on this board want to turn the US into a third world country by inviting all these people in but whatever.</quote> so more brown people means the us will suddenly become a third world country? the sad thing is you probably don't consider what you said racist. or maybe you do and that's why you said it because trolling</quote> But apparently it's not racist to openly state that no other brown countries, most much closer in distance than the US to these people, are capable of or safe enough to support refugees. That only this mostly white country is safe enough for them which is why it's okay if they want to skip through all the other brown ones to get here. And they also can't legally pass through this country to get to Canada for asylum, which is somehow about Canada being compassionate and totally not them using the USA as a buffer.</quote> It's about the government's, not the people. It's the the same reason why this law doesn't make Americans racist or xenophobic. The government's of Central American countries are struggling with gang violence. It's not about Cananda being compassionate, by not accepting refugees that have come to the US first It's about sharing the load, to better help people. Refugees come from all over, if refuge from Burma lands in Canada, they must apply in Canada. They could have first stopped in any other country, and still applied to either. The CanadaUnited States Safe Third Country Agreement, officially the Agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government of the United States of America for cooperation in the examination of refugee status claims from nationals of third countries,[1] is a treaty between the governments of Canada and the United States to better manage the flow of refugee claimants at the shared land border Honestly, did you look at the sources you reposted or did you just see a source, and decide that was good enough for you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 07/16/19 12:05:11 AM #66:	BaiusGaltar posted... s0nicfan posted... CrimsonRage posted... evil_zombie11 posted... I don't get why people on this board want to turn the US into a third world country by inviting all these people in but whatever. so more brown people means the us will suddenly become a third world country? the sad thing is you probably don't consider what you said racist. or maybe you do and that's why you said it because trolling But apparently it's not racist to openly state that no other brown countries, most much closer in distance than the US to these people, are capable of or safe enough to support refugees. That only this mostly white country is safe enough for them which is why it's okay if they want to skip through all the other brown ones to get here. And they also can't legally pass through this country to get to Canada for asylum, which is somehow about Canada being compassionate and totally not them using the USA as a buffer. It's about the government's, not the people. It's the the same reason why this law doesn't make Americans racist or xenophobic. The government's of Central American countries are struggling with gang violence. It's not about Cananda being compassionate, by not accepting refugees that have come to the US first It's about sharing the load, to better help people. Refugees come from all over, if refuge from Burma lands in Canada, they must apply in Canada. They could have first stopped in any other country, and still applied to either. The CanadaUnited States Safe Third Country Agreement, officially the Agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government of the United States of America for cooperation in the examination of refugee status claims from nationals of third countries,[1] is a treaty between the governments of Canada and the United States to better manage the flow of refugee claimants at the shared land border Honestly, did you look at the sources you reposted or did you just see a source, and decide that was good enough for you? that was what i was talking about to do this Trump needs a treaty with the other countries this is what he tried to get from mexico back then when he threatened with tariffs but they said "nope" --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:924746692] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>BaiusGaltar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>evil_zombie11 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why people on this board want to turn the US into a third world country by inviting all these people in but whatever.</quote> so more brown people means the us will suddenly become a third world country? the sad thing is you probably don't consider what you said racist. or maybe you do and that's why you said it because trolling</quote> But apparently it's not racist to openly state that no other brown countries, most much closer in distance than the US to these people, are capable of or safe enough to support refugees. That only this mostly white country is safe enough for them which is why it's okay if they want to skip through all the other brown ones to get here. And they also can't legally pass through this country to get to Canada for asylum, which is somehow about Canada being compassionate and totally not them using the USA as a buffer.</quote> It's about the government's, not the people. It's the the same reason why this law doesn't make Americans racist or xenophobic. The government's of Central American countries are struggling with gang violence. It's not about Cananda being compassionate, by not accepting refugees that have come to the US first It's about sharing the load, to better help people. Refugees come from all over, if refuge from Burma lands in Canada, they must apply in Canada. They could have first stopped in any other country, and still applied to either. The CanadaUnited States Safe Third Country Agreement, officially the Agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government of the United States of America for cooperation in the examination of refugee status claims from nationals of third countries,[1] is a treaty between the governments of Canada and the United States to better manage the flow of refugee claimants at the shared land border Honestly, did you look at the sources you reposted or did you just see a source, and decide that was good enough for you?</quote> that was what i was talking about to do this Trump needs a treaty with the other countries this is what he tried to get from mexico back then when he threatened with tariffs but they said "nope"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaiusGaltar 07/16/19 12:05:30 AM #67:	BillyKidd posted... TreyFlowers posted... It's not illegal to seek asylum. it is illegal to enter a country, not at a port of entry, and claim asylum after you get caught. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1158 (a) Authority to apply for asylum (1) In general Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such aliens status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225(b) of this title. What's frustrating is these people will keep on using these arguments, even after being proved they're incorrect. --- Previously, on Gattelstar Balactica... <cite>BaiusGaltar posted [p:924746705] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>BillyKidd posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TreyFlowers posted...</cite> <quote>It's not illegal to seek asylum.</quote> it is illegal to enter a country, not at a port of entry, and claim asylum after you get caught.</quote> https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1158 (a) Authority to apply for asylum (1) In general Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such aliens status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225(b) of this title. What's frustrating is these people will keep on using these arguments, even after being proved they're incorrect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaiusGaltar 07/16/19 12:08:05 AM #68:	marc55 posted... BaiusGaltar posted... s0nicfan posted... CrimsonRage posted... evil_zombie11 posted... I don't get why people on this board want to turn the US into a third world country by inviting all these people in but whatever. so more brown people means the us will suddenly become a third world country? the sad thing is you probably don't consider what you said racist. or maybe you do and that's why you said it because trolling But apparently it's not racist to openly state that no other brown countries, most much closer in distance than the US to these people, are capable of or safe enough to support refugees. That only this mostly white country is safe enough for them which is why it's okay if they want to skip through all the other brown ones to get here. And they also can't legally pass through this country to get to Canada for asylum, which is somehow about Canada being compassionate and totally not them using the USA as a buffer. It's about the government's, not the people. It's the the same reason why this law doesn't make Americans racist or xenophobic. The government's of Central American countries are struggling with gang violence. It's not about Cananda being compassionate, by not accepting refugees that have come to the US first It's about sharing the load, to better help people. Refugees come from all over, if refuge from Burma lands in Canada, they must apply in Canada. They could have first stopped in any other country, and still applied to either. The CanadaUnited States Safe Third Country Agreement, officially the Agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government of the United States of America for cooperation in the examination of refugee status claims from nationals of third countries,[1] is a treaty between the governments of Canada and the United States to better manage the flow of refugee claimants at the shared land border Honestly, did you look at the sources you reposted or did you just see a source, and decide that was good enough for you? that was what i was talking about to do this Trump needs a treaty with the other countries this is what he tried to get from mexico back then when he threatened with tariffs but they said "nope" No, he doesn't. He just needs to, to make them comparable. --- Previously, on Gattelstar Balactica... <cite>BaiusGaltar posted [p:924746778] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BaiusGaltar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>evil_zombie11 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why people on this board want to turn the US into a third world country by inviting all these people in but whatever.</quote> so more brown people means the us will suddenly become a third world country? the sad thing is you probably don't consider what you said racist. or maybe you do and that's why you said it because trolling</quote> But apparently it's not racist to openly state that no other brown countries, most much closer in distance than the US to these people, are capable of or safe enough to support refugees. That only this mostly white country is safe enough for them which is why it's okay if they want to skip through all the other brown ones to get here. And they also can't legally pass through this country to get to Canada for asylum, which is somehow about Canada being compassionate and totally not them using the USA as a buffer.</quote> It's about the government's, not the people. It's the the same reason why this law doesn't make Americans racist or xenophobic. The government's of Central American countries are struggling with gang violence. It's not about Cananda being compassionate, by not accepting refugees that have come to the US first It's about sharing the load, to better help people. Refugees come from all over, if refuge from Burma lands in Canada, they must apply in Canada. They could have first stopped in any other country, and still applied to either. The CanadaUnited States Safe Third Country Agreement, officially the Agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government of the United States of America for cooperation in the examination of refugee status claims from nationals of third countries,[1] is a treaty between the governments of Canada and the United States to better manage the flow of refugee claimants at the shared land border Honestly, did you look at the sources you reposted or did you just see a source, and decide that was good enough for you?</quote> that was what i was talking about to do this Trump needs a treaty with the other countries this is what he tried to get from mexico back then when he threatened with tariffs but they said "nope"</quote> No, he doesn't. He just needs to, to make them comparable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TreyFlowers 07/16/19 12:08:27 AM #69:	@BillyKidd posted... TreyFlowers posted... It's not illegal to seek asylum. it is illegal to enter a country, not at a port of entry, and claim asylum after you get caught. You are factually 100% wrong --- PATRIOTS Tom Brady objectively has six rings. <cite>TreyFlowers posted [p:924746794] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>@BillyKidd posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TreyFlowers posted...</cite> <quote>It's not illegal to seek asylum.</quote> it is illegal to enter a country, not at a port of entry, and claim asylum after you get caught.</quote> You are factually 100% wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkeysRfunny 07/16/19 12:09:55 AM #70:	marc55 posted... BillyKidd posted... TreyFlowers posted... It's not illegal to seek asylum. it is illegal to enter a country, not at a port of entry, and claim asylum after you get caught. nope it isnt doesnt matter how they enter they can seek asylum anyway and the requirement to request asylum is to be inside the country trump tried to stop them from seeking it by preventing them from entering so hes pretty much forcing them to enter by any means they can to do it and about this last time i read about this Trump tried to threaten mexico into doing just this so he needs the other countries to agree for this to be legal someone mentioned the EU....all of its countries agreed to this so this isnt the same This much is true...But not really in context to the quoted post. You can't seek asylum if you've been in the country for over a year, have been convicted of certain crimes, or are in removal proceedings. --- The story of your fighting is a poem of two words: you suck. <cite>monkeysRfunny posted [p:924746858] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BillyKidd posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TreyFlowers posted...</cite> <quote>It's not illegal to seek asylum.</quote> it is illegal to enter a country, not at a port of entry, and claim asylum after you get caught.</quote> nope it isnt doesnt matter how they enter they can seek asylum anyway and the requirement to request asylum is to be inside the country trump tried to stop them from seeking it by preventing them from entering so hes pretty much forcing them to enter by any means they can to do it and about this last time i read about this Trump tried to threaten mexico into doing just this so he needs the other countries to agree for this to be legal someone mentioned the EU....all of its countries agreed to this so this isnt the same</quote> This much is true...But not really in context to the quoted post. You can't seek asylum if you've been in the country for over a year, have been convicted of certain crimes, or are in removal proceedings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 07/16/19 12:13:30 AM #71:	Truly shocking. --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:924746949] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>Truly shocking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 07/16/19 11:12:05 AM #72:	Don't see the issue --- http://www.warwithwords.com Run: 5 star review, IndieReader approved: https://www.amazon.com/Run-M-N/dp/1973143763/ <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:924760572] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>Don't see the issue</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/16/19 12:19:28 PM #73:	What a piece of shit --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:924763329] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>What a piece of shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 07/16/19 12:20:31 PM #74:	Yes making it harder to come to America legally is how you end illegal immagration. --- Feathered dinosaurs. I love feathered dinosaurs. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:924763376] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>Yes making it harder to come to America legally is how you end illegal immagration.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 07/16/19 12:37:46 PM #75:	s0nicfan posted... Tyranthraxus posted... How the hell do you just ignore international law? From another topic: s0nicfan posted... UnfairRepresent posted... The new rule, published in the Federal Register, would require most migrants entering through Americas southern border to first seek asylum in one of the countries they traversed whether in Mexico, in Central America, or elsewhere on their journey. In most cases, only if that application is denied would they then be able to seek asylum in the United States.' Most of Europe already follows this rule: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Regulation Usually, the responsible Member State will be the state through which the asylum seeker first entered the EU. And Canada holds the US to the exact same rule: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93United_States_Safe_Third_Country_Agreement Under the agreement persons seeking refugee status must make their claim in the first country they arrive in, either the United States or Canada, unless they qualify for an exception. For example, refugee claimants who are citizens of a country other than the United States that arrive from the United States at the CanadaUnited States land border can only pursue their refugee claims in Canada if they meet an exception under the Safe Third Country Agreement. These other countries, including Mexico and Guatemala, have not signed Safe Third Country Agreements. In fact, the Guatemalan President recently had his ability to sign something like this stripped from him by the courts. It is absolutely violating international law to try to enforce this when there are no actual signed agreements in place. --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. Mario Maker 2 Maker ID: X6G-JGS-BFG - https://discord.gg/s6gDduM - Dead by Daylight discord <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:924764132] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>How the hell do you just ignore international law?</quote> From another topic: <cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>The new rule, published in the Federal Register, would require most migrants entering through Americas southern border to first seek asylum in one of the countries they traversed whether in Mexico, in Central America, or elsewhere on their journey. In most cases, only if that application is denied would they then be able to seek asylum in the United States.'</quote> Most of Europe already follows this rule: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Regulation <quote>Usually, the responsible Member State will be the state through which the asylum seeker first entered the EU.</quote> And Canada holds the US to the exact same rule: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93United_States_Safe_Third_Country_Agreement <quote>Under the agreement persons seeking refugee status must make their claim in the first country they arrive in, either the United States or Canada, unless they qualify for an exception. For example, refugee claimants who are citizens of a country other than the United States that arrive from the United States at the CanadaUnited States land border can only pursue their refugee claims in Canada if they meet an exception under the Safe Third Country Agreement.</quote></quote></quote> These other countries, including Mexico and Guatemala, have not signed Safe Third Country Agreements. In fact, the Guatemalan President recently had his ability to sign something like this stripped from him by the courts. It is absolutely violating international law to try to enforce this when there are no actual signed agreements in place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
50Blessings 07/16/19 12:39:40 PM #76:	justaguy3492 posted... The asylum seeking process does need to be reworked, it's pretty broken as is. However, completely shutting it down is an awful idea. This is how I feel. And I suspect this extreme measure is a classic Trump tactic to then pull back to get Democrats to negotiate a rework. --- How about I say what I want and you keep crying about it? <cite>50Blessings posted [p:924764215] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>justaguy3492 posted...</cite> <quote>The asylum seeking process does need to be reworked, it's pretty broken as is. However, completely shutting it down is an awful idea.</quote> This is how I feel. And I suspect this extreme measure is a classic Trump tactic to then pull back to get Democrats to negotiate a rework.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 07/16/19 12:44:13 PM #77:	Sure are a lot of deleted posts ITT --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https:/i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:924764400] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>Sure are a lot of deleted posts ITT</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/16/19 2:54:07 PM #78:	monkeysRfunny posted... marc55 posted... BillyKidd posted... TreyFlowers posted... It's not illegal to seek asylum. it is illegal to enter a country, not at a port of entry, and claim asylum after you get caught. nope it isnt doesnt matter how they enter they can seek asylum anyway and the requirement to request asylum is to be inside the country trump tried to stop them from seeking it by preventing them from entering so hes pretty much forcing them to enter by any means they can to do it and about this last time i read about this Trump tried to threaten mexico into doing just this so he needs the other countries to agree for this to be legal someone mentioned the EU....all of its countries agreed to this so this isnt the same This much is true...But not really in context to the quoted post. You can't seek asylum if you've been in the country for over a year, have been convicted of certain crimes, or are in removal proceedings. the last part is wrong. You can initiate a request for Asylum during removal proceedings so long as it's less than one year since you entered. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:924769976] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>monkeysRfunny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BillyKidd posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TreyFlowers posted...</cite> <quote>It's not illegal to seek asylum.</quote> it is illegal to enter a country, not at a port of entry, and claim asylum after you get caught.</quote> nope it isnt doesnt matter how they enter they can seek asylum anyway and the requirement to request asylum is to be inside the country trump tried to stop them from seeking it by preventing them from entering so hes pretty much forcing them to enter by any means they can to do it and about this last time i read about this Trump tried to threaten mexico into doing just this so he needs the other countries to agree for this to be legal someone mentioned the EU....all of its countries agreed to this so this isnt the same</quote> This much is true...But not really in context to the quoted post. You can't seek asylum if you've been in the country for over a year, have been convicted of certain crimes, or are in removal proceedings.</quote> the last part is wrong. You can initiate a request for Asylum during removal proceedings so long as it's less than one year since you entered.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 07/16/19 7:57:13 PM #79:	ScazarMeltex posted... I love how much the morally bankrupt evangelical community supports this guy. Everything he does literally flies in the face of Christ's teachings. I keep saying that evangelicals would hate the real Jesus if he showed up. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:924783257] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>I love how much the morally bankrupt evangelical community supports this guy. Everything he does literally flies in the face of Christ's teachings.</quote> I keep saying that evangelicals would hate the real Jesus if he showed up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BillyKidd 07/17/19 4:13:14 PM #80:	cool, you like looking up laws; Now how about @marc55 @BaiusGaltar look up 1st country of asylum law, and you will see why any claims from those that are not Mexican voided their claims. --- Tho I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil. For I'm the meanest mofo in the whole f'n valley <cite>BillyKidd posted [p:924820957] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>cool, you like looking up laws; Now how about @marc55 @BaiusGaltar look up 1st country of asylum law, and you will see why any claims from those that are not Mexican voided their claims.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mybbqrules 07/17/19 4:23:44 PM #81:	evil_zombie11 posted... I don't get why people on this board want to turn the US into a third world country by inviting all these people in but whatever. Yes, because if all those durned illegals were kicked out, nobody would be on welfare any more. Unemployment would disappear, there would be no crime. Wages would go up, and everyone would get a free gun and a puppy. --- "Remember, it's called the 'American dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin <cite>mybbqrules posted [p:924821417] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>evil_zombie11 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why people on this board want to turn the US into a third world country by inviting all these people in but whatever.</quote> Yes, because if all those durned illegals were kicked out, nobody would be on welfare any more. Unemployment would disappear, there would be no crime. Wages would go up, and everyone would get a free gun and a puppy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 07/17/19 4:44:09 PM #82:	@BillyKidd posted... Now how about @marc55 @BaiusGaltar look up 1st country of asylum law, and you will see why any claims from those that are not Mexican voided their claims. this isn't a law lmfao <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:924822323] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>@BillyKidd posted...</cite> <quote>Now how about @marc55 @BaiusGaltar look up 1st country of asylum law, and you will see why any claims from those that are not Mexican voided their claims.</quote> this isn't a law lmfao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 07/17/19 7:17:21 PM #83:	BillyKidd posted... cool, you like looking up laws; Now how about @marc55 @BaiusGaltar look up 1st country of asylum law, and you will see why any claims from those that are not Mexican voided their claims. that how i found out trump needs an agreement with the other countries thats what the EU did all the countries signed an agreement those who claim trump has done the same never linked to an article showing how many countries the US has this signed with besides canada --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:924828798] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>BillyKidd posted...</cite> <quote>cool, you like looking up laws; Now how about @marc55 @BaiusGaltar look up 1st country of asylum law, and you will see why any claims from those that are not Mexican voided their claims.</quote> that how i found out trump needs an agreement with the other countries thats what the EU did all the countries signed an agreement those who claim trump has done the same never linked to an article showing how many countries the US has this signed with besides canada</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/17/19 7:32:24 PM #84:	marc55 posted... BillyKidd posted... cool, you like looking up laws; Now how about @marc55 @BaiusGaltar look up 1st country of asylum law, and you will see why any claims from those that are not Mexican voided their claims. that how i found out trump needs an agreement with the other countries thats what the EU did all the countries signed an agreement those who claim trump has done the same never linked to an article showing how many countries the US has this signed with besides canada Because your point is fundamentally flawed. The Dublin regulation signed by EU States is not signed by any of the countries with people attempting to flee to Europe. Germany does not have an agreement with Syria, but it enforces the dublin regulation by mandating that they apply for asylum in Greece rather than getting to skip through to any other country they want. According to you, that is a violation of international law and a Syrian refugee has a right to go to any EU Nation they want, regardless of the Dublin regulation. In fact, your logic would dictate that the Dublin regulation is itself a direct violation of international law by attempting to restrict what country refugees can flee to. So either the United States doesn't need an agreement with Venezuela to enforce this policy under international law, or EU nation states are also in violation of international law by restricting flow without having a signed agreement with Syria and other middle eastern nations. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:924829429] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BillyKidd posted...</cite> <quote>cool, you like looking up laws; Now how about @marc55 @BaiusGaltar look up 1st country of asylum law, and you will see why any claims from those that are not Mexican voided their claims.</quote> that how i found out trump needs an agreement with the other countries thats what the EU did all the countries signed an agreement those who claim trump has done the same never linked to an article showing how many countries the US has this signed with besides canada</quote> Because your point is fundamentally flawed. The Dublin regulation signed by EU States is not signed by any of the countries with people attempting to flee to Europe. Germany does not have an agreement with Syria, but it enforces the dublin regulation by mandating that they apply for asylum in Greece rather than getting to skip through to any other country they want. According to you, that is a violation of international law and a Syrian refugee has a right to go to any EU Nation they want, regardless of the Dublin regulation. In fact, your logic would dictate that the Dublin regulation is itself a direct violation of international law by attempting to restrict what country refugees can flee to. So either the United States doesn't need an agreement with Venezuela to enforce this policy under international law, or EU nation states are also in violation of international law by restricting flow without having a signed agreement with Syria and other middle eastern nations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/17/19 7:34:21 PM #85:	Surely the people fleeing the gangs of Central America just want to move 2 hours to another part of Central America. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:924829512] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>Surely the people fleeing the gangs of Central America just want to move 2 hours to another part of Central America.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 07/17/19 7:35:23 PM #86:	Build Bridges Not Walls Open Borders, No Closed --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:924829548] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>Build Bridges Not Walls Open Borders, No Closed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0xDEFECADE 07/17/19 7:36:02 PM #87:	hail trump! hold on gotta take a dump --- 1101 1110 1111 1110 1100 1010 1101 1110 one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>0xDEFECADE posted [p:924829572] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>hail trump! hold on gotta take a dump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 07/17/19 7:41:08 PM #88:	s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... BillyKidd posted... cool, you like looking up laws; Now how about @marc55 @BaiusGaltar look up 1st country of asylum law, and you will see why any claims from those that are not Mexican voided their claims. that how i found out trump needs an agreement with the other countries thats what the EU did all the countries signed an agreement those who claim trump has done the same never linked to an article showing how many countries the US has this signed with besides canada Because your point is fundamentally flawed. The Dublin regulation signed by EU States is not signed by any of the countries with people attempting to flee to Europe. Germany does not have an agreement with Syria, but it enforces the dublin regulation by mandating that they apply for asylum in Greece rather than getting to skip through to any other country they want. According to you, that is a violation of international law and a Syrian refugee has a right to go to any EU Nation they want, regardless of the Dublin regulation. In fact, your logic would dictate that the Dublin regulation is itself a direct violation of international law by attempting to restrict what country refugees can flee to. So either the United States doesn't need an agreement with Venezuela to enforce this policy under international law, or EU nation states are also in violation of international law by restricting flow without having a signed agreement with Syria and other middle eastern nations. did you know germany and greece are members of the EU? seems you didnt --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:924829789] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BillyKidd posted...</cite> <quote>cool, you like looking up laws; Now how about @marc55 @BaiusGaltar look up 1st country of asylum law, and you will see why any claims from those that are not Mexican voided their claims.</quote> that how i found out trump needs an agreement with the other countries thats what the EU did all the countries signed an agreement those who claim trump has done the same never linked to an article showing how many countries the US has this signed with besides canada</quote> Because your point is fundamentally flawed. The Dublin regulation signed by EU States is not signed by any of the countries with people attempting to flee to Europe. Germany does not have an agreement with Syria, but it enforces the dublin regulation by mandating that they apply for asylum in Greece rather than getting to skip through to any other country they want. According to you, that is a violation of international law and a Syrian refugee has a right to go to any EU Nation they want, regardless of the Dublin regulation. In fact, your logic would dictate that the Dublin regulation is itself a direct violation of international law by attempting to restrict what country refugees can flee to. So either the United States doesn't need an agreement with Venezuela to enforce this policy under international law, or EU nation states are also in violation of international law by restricting flow without having a signed agreement with Syria and other middle eastern nations.</quote> did you know germany and greece are members of the EU? seems you didnt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/17/19 7:49:44 PM #89:	marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... BillyKidd posted... cool, you like looking up laws; Now how about @marc55 @BaiusGaltar look up 1st country of asylum law, and you will see why any claims from those that are not Mexican voided their claims. that how i found out trump needs an agreement with the other countries thats what the EU did all the countries signed an agreement those who claim trump has done the same never linked to an article showing how many countries the US has this signed with besides canada Because your point is fundamentally flawed. The Dublin regulation signed by EU States is not signed by any of the countries with people attempting to flee to Europe. Germany does not have an agreement with Syria, but it enforces the dublin regulation by mandating that they apply for asylum in Greece rather than getting to skip through to any other country they want. According to you, that is a violation of international law and a Syrian refugee has a right to go to any EU Nation they want, regardless of the Dublin regulation. In fact, your logic would dictate that the Dublin regulation is itself a direct violation of international law by attempting to restrict what country refugees can flee to. So either the United States doesn't need an agreement with Venezuela to enforce this policy under international law, or EU nation states are also in violation of international law by restricting flow without having a signed agreement with Syria and other middle eastern nations. did you know germany and greece are members of the EU? seems you didnt Know who isn't a member of the EU and didn't sign the Dublin agreement? Syria. Jesus christ it's like talking to a toaster. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:924830138] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BillyKidd posted...</cite> <quote>cool, you like looking up laws; Now how about @marc55 @BaiusGaltar look up 1st country of asylum law, and you will see why any claims from those that are not Mexican voided their claims.</quote> that how i found out trump needs an agreement with the other countries thats what the EU did all the countries signed an agreement those who claim trump has done the same never linked to an article showing how many countries the US has this signed with besides canada</quote> Because your point is fundamentally flawed. The Dublin regulation signed by EU States is not signed by any of the countries with people attempting to flee to Europe. Germany does not have an agreement with Syria, but it enforces the dublin regulation by mandating that they apply for asylum in Greece rather than getting to skip through to any other country they want. According to you, that is a violation of international law and a Syrian refugee has a right to go to any EU Nation they want, regardless of the Dublin regulation. In fact, your logic would dictate that the Dublin regulation is itself a direct violation of international law by attempting to restrict what country refugees can flee to. So either the United States doesn't need an agreement with Venezuela to enforce this policy under international law, or EU nation states are also in violation of international law by restricting flow without having a signed agreement with Syria and other middle eastern nations.</quote> did you know germany and greece are members of the EU? seems you didnt</quote> Know who isn't a member of the EU and didn't sign the Dublin agreement? Syria. Jesus christ it's like talking to a toaster.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 07/17/19 7:53:34 PM #90:	s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... BillyKidd posted... cool, you like looking up laws; Now how about @marc55 @BaiusGaltar look up 1st country of asylum law, and you will see why any claims from those that are not Mexican voided their claims. that how i found out trump needs an agreement with the other countries thats what the EU did all the countries signed an agreement those who claim trump has done the same never linked to an article showing how many countries the US has this signed with besides canada Because your point is fundamentally flawed. The Dublin regulation signed by EU States is not signed by any of the countries with people attempting to flee to Europe. Germany does not have an agreement with Syria, but it enforces the dublin regulation by mandating that they apply for asylum in Greece rather than getting to skip through to any other country they want. According to you, that is a violation of international law and a Syrian refugee has a right to go to any EU Nation they want, regardless of the Dublin regulation. In fact, your logic would dictate that the Dublin regulation is itself a direct violation of international law by attempting to restrict what country refugees can flee to. So either the United States doesn't need an agreement with Venezuela to enforce this policy under international law, or EU nation states are also in violation of international law by restricting flow without having a signed agreement with Syria and other middle eastern nations. did you know germany and greece are members of the EU? seems you didnt Know who isn't a member of the EU and didn't sign the Dublin agreement? Syria. Jesus christ it's like talking to a toaster. isnt about the countries the refugees are from is about where they request asylum why do you think is called "Safe Third Country " agreement ? --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:924830294] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BillyKidd posted...</cite> <quote>cool, you like looking up laws; Now how about @marc55 @BaiusGaltar look up 1st country of asylum law, and you will see why any claims from those that are not Mexican voided their claims.</quote> that how i found out trump needs an agreement with the other countries thats what the EU did all the countries signed an agreement those who claim trump has done the same never linked to an article showing how many countries the US has this signed with besides canada</quote> Because your point is fundamentally flawed. The Dublin regulation signed by EU States is not signed by any of the countries with people attempting to flee to Europe. Germany does not have an agreement with Syria, but it enforces the dublin regulation by mandating that they apply for asylum in Greece rather than getting to skip through to any other country they want. According to you, that is a violation of international law and a Syrian refugee has a right to go to any EU Nation they want, regardless of the Dublin regulation. In fact, your logic would dictate that the Dublin regulation is itself a direct violation of international law by attempting to restrict what country refugees can flee to. So either the United States doesn't need an agreement with Venezuela to enforce this policy under international law, or EU nation states are also in violation of international law by restricting flow without having a signed agreement with Syria and other middle eastern nations.</quote> did you know germany and greece are members of the EU? seems you didnt</quote> Know who isn't a member of the EU and didn't sign the Dublin agreement? Syria. Jesus christ it's like talking to a toaster.</quote> isnt about the countries the refugees are from is about where they request asylum why do you think is called "Safe Third Country " agreement ?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 07/17/19 7:58:08 PM #91:	@s0nicfan do you agree with Trump's decision? --- https://imgur.com/loj3Iz4 <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:924830458] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>@s0nicfan do you agree with Trump's decision?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/17/19 7:58:20 PM #92:	marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... s0nicfan posted... marc55 posted... BillyKidd posted... cool, you like looking up laws; Now how about @marc55 @BaiusGaltar look up 1st country of asylum law, and you will see why any claims from those that are not Mexican voided their claims. that how i found out trump needs an agreement with the other countries thats what the EU did all the countries signed an agreement those who claim trump has done the same never linked to an article showing how many countries the US has this signed with besides canada Because your point is fundamentally flawed. The Dublin regulation signed by EU States is not signed by any of the countries with people attempting to flee to Europe. Germany does not have an agreement with Syria, but it enforces the dublin regulation by mandating that they apply for asylum in Greece rather than getting to skip through to any other country they want. According to you, that is a violation of international law and a Syrian refugee has a right to go to any EU Nation they want, regardless of the Dublin regulation. In fact, your logic would dictate that the Dublin regulation is itself a direct violation of international law by attempting to restrict what country refugees can flee to. So either the United States doesn't need an agreement with Venezuela to enforce this policy under international law, or EU nation states are also in violation of international law by restricting flow without having a signed agreement with Syria and other middle eastern nations. did you know germany and greece are members of the EU? seems you didnt Know who isn't a member of the EU and didn't sign the Dublin agreement? Syria. Jesus christ it's like talking to a toaster. isnt about the countries the refugees are from is about where they request asylum And the Dublin regulation states they can't request asylum in Germany unless they invent a way to teleport there. Which, again, you are stating is a violation of international law because according to you they have a right to request asylum in any country even if they pass through other countries that would also be allowed to house them. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:924830466] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BillyKidd posted...</cite> <quote>cool, you like looking up laws; Now how about @marc55 @BaiusGaltar look up 1st country of asylum law, and you will see why any claims from those that are not Mexican voided their claims.</quote> that how i found out trump needs an agreement with the other countries thats what the EU did all the countries signed an agreement those who claim trump has done the same never linked to an article showing how many countries the US has this signed with besides canada</quote> Because your point is fundamentally flawed. The Dublin regulation signed by EU States is not signed by any of the countries with people attempting to flee to Europe. Germany does not have an agreement with Syria, but it enforces the dublin regulation by mandating that they apply for asylum in Greece rather than getting to skip through to any other country they want. According to you, that is a violation of international law and a Syrian refugee has a right to go to any EU Nation they want, regardless of the Dublin regulation. In fact, your logic would dictate that the Dublin regulation is itself a direct violation of international law by attempting to restrict what country refugees can flee to. So either the United States doesn't need an agreement with Venezuela to enforce this policy under international law, or EU nation states are also in violation of international law by restricting flow without having a signed agreement with Syria and other middle eastern nations.</quote> did you know germany and greece are members of the EU? seems you didnt</quote> Know who isn't a member of the EU and didn't sign the Dublin agreement? Syria. Jesus christ it's like talking to a toaster.</quote> isnt about the countries the refugees are from is about where they request asylum</quote> And the Dublin regulation states they can't request asylum in Germany unless they invent a way to teleport there. Which, again, you are stating is a violation of international law because according to you they have a right to request asylum in any country even if they pass through other countries that would also be allowed to house them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 07/17/19 8:01:53 PM #93:	.....did you realize you are saying syrian refugees should ask for asylum on their country of origin --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:924830610] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote>.....did you realize you are saying syrian refugees should ask for asylum on their country of origin</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/17/19 8:02:53 PM #94:	AmericaTheBrave posted... @s0nicfan do you agree with Trump's decision? Only partially. I don't think that this is the best way to solve the problem, but I also think it's fair to point out that this just brings America in line with the way all of our allies do it. I also think that the yearly migrant Caravan which is structured, timed, and is the source of this whole drama is clearly not about people fleeing violence because of how the whole thing works. If you believe that your life is in imminent danger, to the extent that you would flee and leave everything behind, then you wouldn't also wait until a seasonal migration to do so, and you wouldn't leave Family behind. In general I think migration is good, I think the extent to which it is being painted as a crisis is overblown, and I think we absolutely should do our part to protect vulnerable minorities in unstable countries, but I think it is also disingenuous of people to look at the way chain migration is working right now and to say that there is nothing wrong with that. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:924830651] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>AmericaTheBrave posted...</cite> <quote>@s0nicfan do you agree with Trump's decision?</quote> Only partially. I don't think that this is the best way to solve the problem, but I also think it's fair to point out that this just brings America in line with the way all of our allies do it. I also think that the yearly migrant Caravan which is structured, timed, and is the source of this whole drama is clearly not about people fleeing violence because of how the whole thing works. If you believe that your life is in imminent danger, to the extent that you would flee and leave everything behind, then you wouldn't also wait until a seasonal migration to do so, and you wouldn't leave Family behind. In general I think migration is good, I think the extent to which it is being painted as a crisis is overblown, and I think we absolutely should do our part to protect vulnerable minorities in unstable countries, but I think it is also disingenuous of people to look at the way chain migration is working right now and to say that there is nothing wrong with that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/17/19 8:03:52 PM #95:	s0nicfan posted... I also think that the yearly migrant Caravan which is structured, timed, and is the source of this whole drama is clearly not about people fleeing violence because of how the whole thing works. It's almost like this is a bullshit Trump lie --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:924830694] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>I also think that the yearly migrant Caravan which is structured, timed, and is the source of this whole drama is clearly not about people fleeing violence because of how the whole thing works. </quote> It's almost like this is a bullshit Trump lie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/17/19 8:08:01 PM #96:	hockeybub89 posted... s0nicfan posted... I also think that the yearly migrant Caravan which is structured, timed, and is the source of this whole drama is clearly not about people fleeing violence because of how the whole thing works. It's almost like this is a bullshit Trump lie https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/23/migrant-caravan-facts-trump-border-881006 Such caravans are nothing new a smaller one formed last spring, and similar caravans have been organized regularly for the past two decades. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:924830847] in Donald Tru... [t:77866384]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>I also think that the yearly migrant Caravan which is structured, timed, and is the source of this whole drama is clearly not about people fleeing violence because of how the whole thing works. </quote> It's almost like this is a bullshit Trump lie</quote> https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/23/migrant-caravan-facts-trump-border-881006 <quote>Such caravans are nothing new a smaller one formed last spring, and similar caravans have been organized regularly for the past two decades. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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