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littlebro07
07/05/19 11:45:24 AM
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Hanky_Bannister
07/05/19 11:45:43 AM
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yes

propagandism is bad
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littlebro07
07/05/19 12:00:50 PM
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Hanky_Bannister posted...
yes

propagandism is bad


But the bugs launched a damn asteroid at them
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Thatuser
07/05/19 12:07:48 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
Hanky_Bannister posted...
yes

propagandism is bad


But the bugs launched a damn asteroid at them

After we had encroached into their space. How isn't defined, but it's insinuated we were aggressors and they acted in self defense.
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Hanky_Bannister
07/05/19 12:08:51 PM
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Thatuser posted...
littlebro07 posted...
Hanky_Bannister posted...
yes

propagandism is bad


But the bugs launched a damn asteroid at them

After we had encroached into their space. How isn't defined, but it's insinuated we were aggressors and they acted in self defense.

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ArchiePeck
07/05/19 12:10:35 PM
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I'm pretty sure that was part of the subtext, yes.
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DrizztLink
07/05/19 12:11:28 PM
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There was the time they murdered a prisoner of war for a propaganda how-to video.
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Skye Reynolds
07/05/19 12:12:50 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
But the bugs launched a damn asteroid at them


How?
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Vicious_Dios
07/05/19 12:14:10 PM
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No, WE were the good guys. The only good but is a dead bug.

Would you like to know more?
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littlebro07
07/05/19 12:15:09 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
littlebro07 posted...
But the bugs launched a damn asteroid at them


How?


With...giant rock launching machines?
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josifrees
07/05/19 12:15:50 PM
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Yes
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
07/05/19 12:16:56 PM
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I think a comic or the book goes into detail about what happened to cause the war.
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Fossil
07/05/19 12:17:05 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
Hanky_Bannister posted...
yes

propagandism is bad


But the bugs launched a damn asteroid at them

You know having recently re-watched Starship Troopers in the last year, I don't think anyone has realized just how fucking intelligent the bugs were to re-direct an asteroid from across the galaxy to hit Earth.
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treewojima
07/05/19 12:17:51 PM
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The book or the movie? They had very different themes
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Vicious_Dios
07/05/19 12:19:06 PM
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Fossil posted...
littlebro07 posted...
Hanky_Bannister posted...
yes

propagandism is bad


But the bugs launched a damn asteroid at them

You know having recently re-watched Starship Troopers in the last year, I don't think anyone has realized just how fucking intelligent the bugs were to re-direct an asteroid from across the galaxy to hit Earth.


Have you seen their brain bugs? It's like a mobile server room incarnate.
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GeneralKenobi85
07/05/19 12:19:38 PM
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I'm from Buenos Aires and I say kill 'em all.
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Jiek_Fafn
07/05/19 12:28:32 PM
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Wouldn't they have had to fling that asteroid millions of years ago? It's an asteroid not a spaceship. It's not using ftl travel speeds and it got thrown from very far away. So they planned this before humans even existed. Fucking brain bugs are smart.
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littlebro07
07/05/19 12:28:56 PM
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treewojima posted...
The book or the movie? They had very different themes


Honestly never even knew there was a book.

I assume it came first?
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vocedelmorte
07/05/19 12:31:10 PM
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It's pretty famous book, by Robert Heinlein
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Hexenherz
07/05/19 12:31:40 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
treewojima posted...
The book or the movie? They had very different themes


Honestly never even knew there was a book.

I assume it came first?

wat
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Hanky_Bannister
07/05/19 12:32:22 PM
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Starshit Poopers
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Jiek_Fafn
07/05/19 12:33:08 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
treewojima posted...
The book or the movie? They had very different themes


Honestly never even knew there was a book.

I assume it came first?

Theres also a cgi series called Roughnecks:Starship Troopers Chronicles that is kind of a blend of the two. It's on Crackle and is excellent. Remember it was made 20 years ago so the cgi sucks though. It reminds me a lot of Exosquad tbh.
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InTheEyesOfFire
07/05/19 12:36:43 PM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
littlebro07 posted...
treewojima posted...
The book or the movie? They had very different themes


Honestly never even knew there was a book.

I assume it came first?

Theres also a cgi series called Roughnecks:Starship Troopers Chronicles that is kind of a blend of the two. It's on Crackle and is excellent. Remember it was made 20 years ago so the cgi sucks though. It reminds me a lot of Exosquad tbh.


Used to wake up at 5 am to watch it when it played on network tv. Fun show to watch before school.

On topic. Yes we were the invaders. It was funny when they drop into Klendathu, its just sand and rock. Like who wants this planet at least human wise?
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dr_marble
07/05/19 12:37:55 PM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
Wouldn't they have had to fling that asteroid millions of years ago? It's an asteroid not a spaceship. It's not using ftl travel speeds and it got thrown from very far away. So they planned this before humans even existed. Fucking brain bugs are smart.

Holy shit
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vocedelmorte
07/05/19 12:41:33 PM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
Wouldn't they have had to fling that asteroid millions of years ago? It's an asteroid not a spaceship. It's not using ftl travel speeds and it got thrown from very far away. So they planned this before humans even existed. Fucking brain bugs are smart.

You don't know about all the advanced technologies bugs have >_>
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Zombified_Toast
07/05/19 12:45:46 PM
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Or the asteroid hit earth and the Government decided to blame the bugs to incite a further push for war.

Bug fuel can't melt Buenos Aires.
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littlebro07
07/05/19 12:46:31 PM
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Zombified_Toast posted...
Or the asteroid hit earth and the Government decided to blame the bugs to incite a further push for war.

Bug fuel can't melt Buenos Aires.


dr_marble posted...
Holy shit

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lordofmud
07/05/19 12:49:36 PM
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God damn bugs whacked us Johnny.
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Fossil
07/05/19 12:52:16 PM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
Wouldn't they have had to fling that asteroid millions of years ago? It's an asteroid not a spaceship. It's not using ftl travel speeds and it got thrown from very far away. So they planned this before humans even existed. Fucking brain bugs are smart.

This is the most logical explaination, but honestly we don't really know anything about the asteroid other than "the bugs sent it!". They could've sent that bitch into a wormhole, catapulted it at light speed or used time travel to fling the asteroid knowing it would hit at this time. Too many possibilities.

Or the asteroid hit earth and the Government decided to blame the bugs to incite a further push for war.

or this lol
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DrizztLink
07/05/19 1:06:19 PM
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treewojima posted...
The book or the movie? They had very different themes

Exactly opposite themes.
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Jagr_68
07/05/19 1:28:12 PM
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Zombified_Toast posted...
Or the asteroid hit earth and the Government decided to blame the bugs to incite a further push for war.

Bug fuel can't melt Buenos Aires.


BUG FUEL??? Frankly I find the idea of an insect-based combustant not wiping out humanity O-FFENSIVE!
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littlebro07
07/05/19 1:39:36 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
Of course the humans weren't the bad guys! The bugs attacked US! Are you doing your part? Mobile infantry! Join up now! Service guarantees citizenship!

*brought to you by the Federal Network*


You forgot "Would you like to know more?"
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ROBANN_88
07/05/19 1:44:31 PM
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landing all those troops and not bringing a single piece of artillery or tanks or anything.
they basically asked to be slaughtered
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DeadBankerDream
07/05/19 1:45:37 PM
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Not humans

Just Republicans
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K181
07/05/19 1:46:36 PM
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Yes.

And the bugs allegedly launched the rock. I'm a subscriber of that being a false flag op to rally humans into an eternal war and vastly increased military spending myself.
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looked
07/05/19 1:57:35 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
Hanky_Bannister posted...
yes

propagandism is bad


But the bugs launched a damn asteroid at them


It may have been a false flag, you cant trust what the media says.
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s0nicfan
07/05/19 1:58:51 PM
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"It's afraid!"
*explosive cheering*
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lightwarrior78
07/05/19 1:59:35 PM
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Thatuser posted...
littlebro07 posted...
Hanky_Bannister posted...
yes

propagandism is bad


But the bugs launched a damn asteroid at them

After we had encroached into their space. How isn't defined, but it's insinuated we were aggressors and they acted in self defense.


Would have to be one hell of an encroachment to ethically justify obliterating a major metropolitan civilian target. Given at the time in the movie the issue was phrased more environmentally, like we poked a wasp nest and are upset we got stung, it's a bit murky.

With the bugs being smart, maybe it's like most fights: both sides are shit in various ways.
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nativengine
07/05/19 2:00:03 PM
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The only good bug is a dead bug
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DeadBankerDream
07/05/19 2:01:20 PM
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lightwarrior78 posted...
Would have to be one hell of an encroachment to ethically justify obliterating a major metropolitan civilian target

*Cough*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki
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SauI_Goodman
07/05/19 2:03:25 PM
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I didn't know everybody spoke English in Argentina.
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littlebro07
07/05/19 2:06:28 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
I didn't know everybody spoke English in Argentina.


It's *future* Argentina
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treewojima
07/05/19 2:07:58 PM
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*desire to know more intensifies*
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s0nicfan
07/05/19 2:08:30 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
I didn't know everybody spoke English in Argentina.


English is what becomes "Common" in every scifi story,l. Some parts of the world just haven't realized it yet.
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BMXJouster
07/05/19 2:10:38 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkEdyq3UE5M" data-time="

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treewojima
07/05/19 2:10:46 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
SauI_Goodman posted...
I didn't know everybody spoke English in Argentina.


English is what becomes "Common" in every scifi story,l. Some parts of the world just haven't realized it yet.


Firefly says hi

more seriously though, it's just a narrative device that depends on where the book or movie was made
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lightwarrior78
07/05/19 2:21:36 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
lightwarrior78 posted...
Would have to be one hell of an encroachment to ethically justify obliterating a major metropolitan civilian target

*Cough*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki


That was after years of open conflict. Some felt it was the only way to get Japan to stop fighting.

This was the opening skirmish at best. It could have been a basic border dispute. I get we're not supposed to know as part of the propaganda parody, but I want to know more.
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DrizztLink
07/05/19 3:12:16 PM
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lightwarrior78 posted...
DeadBankerDream posted...
lightwarrior78 posted...
Would have to be one hell of an encroachment to ethically justify obliterating a major metropolitan civilian target

*Cough*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki


That was after years of open conflict. Some felt it was the only way to get Japan to stop fighting.

This was the opening skirmish at best. It could have been a basic border dispute. I get we're not supposed to know as part of the propaganda parody, but I want to know more.

They were at war for a good while before the orbital strike, pretty sure.
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