Board 8 > So...should we just agree that the "Forum Game" tag belongs to mafia?

(+) Yeah! (+)

But Raka was the one who posted it
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fwiw Ulti was the person mass-bumping the mafia topics and causing the problem

He's literally trying to take credit for putting out a fire he started

Fuck that

thanks Ulti!
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

ulti is being silly, but i do think it's pretty lolworthy how xic bashes him on the discord but says absolutely nothing about him here on the board. this is a good example of the "people are more honest on the discord" thing i was talking about in the sticky topic.

at least mods like raptor just post on the board when they feel like bashing users!

It's Ulti. I won't directly respond for reasons we've gone over hundreds of times.

For the record, the sequence of events is as follows: we were talking about the excess of mafia topics. I mentioned that I would put in a feedback ticket about it. Ulti knew about it because he replied in the Discord. Then he said in here that he'd put a ticket in. I sent one - literally one - message in the Discord commenting that I found this attempt to steal credit for something so small very petty. Now, with anyone else I might think it was innocuous, but it's Ulti, who has historically been somewhat prone to making things about himself.
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you won't directly respond but you will shit on him on the discord (which he apparently goes to) anyway?
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I said something he did was extremely petty. It was one message. If you are turning this into any kind of deal, that is Ulti's exaggeration working or you overreaching to prove whatever point you're making against the Discord.
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XIII_rocks posted...

For the record, the sequence of events is as follows: we were talking about the excess of mafia topics. I mentioned that I would put in a feedback ticket about it. Ulti knew about it because he replied in the Discord. Then he said in here that he'd put a ticket in. I sent one - literally one - message in the Discord commenting that I found this attempt to steal credit for something so small very petty. Now, with anyone else I might think it was innocuous, but it's Ulti, who has historically been somewhat prone to making things about himself.

feel like it's also important to mention that the last time you said anything vaguely negative about ulti was 9 months previous

also feel like we're underplaying how extremely committed ulti is to proving you right

thanks, xic
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XIII_rocks posted...

I said something he did was extremely petty. It was one message. If you are turning this into any kind of deal, that is Ulti's exaggeration working or you overreaching to prove whatever point you're making against the Discord.

the "reasons" you were alluding to is that you claim that engaging ulti is terrible because it's "actively making him worse" and whatnot. but apparently this is fine to do if it's just one message?

it's not like whenever i respond to ulti i always spend more than a few posts arguing with him. hell, sometimes i've responded with no more than one post and left it at that. yet you've constantly bashed me for doing this, both on the board and in private messages.

i have nothing against the discord, i'm just calling you out on your blatant double standard.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

the "reasons" you were alluding to is that you claim that engaging ulti is terrible because it's "actively making him worse" and whatnot. but apparently this is fine to do if it's just one message?

No, it's fine because that isn't engaging him. I wasn't looking for dialogue with him. It's not direct engagement with a user to comment on their behaviour on a Discord server they never read.

You, on the other hand, will do the Lasa thing of chasing him down a semantical rabbit hole and giving him everything he wants. Apples and oranges. This is a dire reach.
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Board 8 drama is so much better than CE drama
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Here's a Bartz post in the Discord from a few months ago:

I do ignore full throttle because its a robot

Is this direct engagement with Full Throttle? Is this enabling Full Throttle? Because you either have to say yes or back down.
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posting about someone within the same medium that they also exists on isn't engaging with him

engaging is a direct back and forth, response and response
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XIII_rocks posted...

It's not direct engagement with a user to comment on their behaviour on a Discord server they never read.

how did he take that screenshot of your comment if he doesn't read that server?
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

XIII_rocks posted...

It's not direct engagement with a user to comment on their behaviour on a Discord server they never read.

how did he take that screenshot of your comment if he doesn't read that server?

I was using never hyperbolically. He shows up there like twice a year tops. And he found that message because somebody else took a screenshot of it.
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CelesMyUserName posted...

posting about someone within the same medium that they also exists on isn't engaging with him

engaging is a direct back and forth, response and response

then i'm not "engaging" with ulti half the time either and xic should stop giving me so much crap for it/ridiculously exaggerating how much i argue with him. i've had those "semantic rabbit hole" arguments with ulti very few times in the past several years.
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I mean Ulti is still getting everything he wants from this topic whether you're engaging him directly right now or not
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When is the last time I even came after you about that? Like a year ago? And I usually only do it literally while you're doing it, like in the same topic, so I wouldn't call that exaggerated.

Is this ridiculous attempt at exposing my non-existent hypocrisy all because of a seriously outdated chip on your shoulder you just couldn't shake?
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UltimaterializerX posted...

I want people to get along

empirical evidence suggests you do not
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LeonhartFour posted...

I mean Ulti is still getting everything he wants from this topic whether you're engaging him directly right now or not

True! You can always count on Lasa.
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is there a way to unmark from showing you if it has new posts in it

y'know how the topic's icon fades away then lights back up with a dot when there's new posts

it's so hard to resist clicking on "updated" topics :(
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CelesMyUserName posted...

is there a way to unmark from showing you if it has new posts in it

y'know how the topic's icon fades away then lights back up with a dot when there's new posts

it's so hard to resist clicking on "updated" topics :(

delete it from your history and delete your active posts in the topic, maybe?

if that doesn't work then I doubt it
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I think I'll try that out on my private board first
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XIII_rocks posted...

When is the last time I even came after you about that? Like a year ago?

why the hell does that matter?

And I usually only do it literally while you're doing it, like in the same topic, so I wouldn't call that exaggerated.

you've brought it up several times when i was not doing it at all.
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i do actually think ulti wants everyone to get along, he just has a different definition of "getting along" than most of us

i assume positive intent for most of ulti's posts
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It matters because it's outdated and not an ongoing situation, so it's weird to bring it up right now? If I'm not giving you shit for it it's because you aren't doing it... or because I've given up, which I did a long time ago vis a vis your enabling of Vlado.

I think you first need to acknowledge your unresolved issues with me and if you want to go further with them then take it to PM. This was a bad way of handling it, a desperate reach that attempted to conflate two very different things to "expose" me as being "just as bad as you" rather than simply telling me you think I treated you unfairly.
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it's NOT two very different things. the entire point is that in the majority of the so-called "arguments" you were relentlessly bashing me for, i didn't do all that much either. as i said, sometimes i would just respond to a single ulti post and that was it.

i'm really not an asshole and it's not my intention to actively make ulti worse. i'll respond to him from time to time, sure, but i'm not going to endlessly poke him. but you're still entirely misrepresenting what happened in the past, saying "i only attacked you over this when you were arguing with ulti!", which is blatantly false. and "all of those arguments were 300 post long exchanges about semantic nonsense, so my bashing was totally warranted!" which doesn't even make sense because as far as i can tell, ulti doesn't even LIKE those kind of debates, so why the hell would he participate in them? if we were talking about red sox it would be different, but it's not ulti's thing.

and no, i don't care to continue this argument in PMs. it's clear by now that you'd rather slander me than admit you were in any way wrong, so i see no point in doing so.
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I'm not slandering you by saying you like to chase people down semantic rabbit holes. You've been doing it for 15 years. You have 100% done this with Ulti in the past. I said nothing about "300 post long exchanges". If you dislike the way I approached your responses to Ulti, then I'm sorry, but let's not pretend my issues with you begin and end with how you deal with just Ulti. I have come after you for the way you handle multiple users - it's possible you're putting all those times under the Ulti banner.

And yes, again, me talking about Ulti via Discord, especially when he essentially never reads it, is completely different to directly engaging him in conversation on the board. Please either take back the bizarre notion that there is any kind of a double standard or explain it more clearly. Perhaps look at post 64?
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for the record clearing history doesn't effect topics being 'read' or not, even if you haven't even posted in them :(
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And FWIW I wanted to do this in PMs for your sake. You clearly have some unresolved issues with the way I treated you a year or so ago, and it's better to hash those things out privately where we can really dig into it on a personal level, rather than performatively air this dirty laundry on the board.
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CelesMyUserName posted...

is there a way to unmark from showing you if it has new posts in it

y'know how the topic's icon fades away then lights back up with a dot when there's new posts

it's so hard to resist clicking on "updated" topics :(

Try being the topic creator. Half tempted just to lock the thread so it stops notifying me there's new posts.
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azuarc posted...

Half tempted just to lock the thread so it stops notifying me there's new posts.

I mean that can be fixed
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don't let a window of more than five minutes elapse without a post so he can't lock it
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See what I mean
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Gotta handle these unsavory things via PM lest we lose virtue signaling cred
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I was wondering how long it'd be before you poked your head in.
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Sorry I'm not as good at responding to the lighting of the signal as I used to be.

Blame Teppen.
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How about you maybe just stop posting the same crap every time I talk to somebody? It's getting really tiresome. Like, I get it, you're not a fan. Can that just be the end of it?
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Did you consider that you actually need to do the thing I'm pointing out for me to point it out?
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XIII_rocks posted...

You have 100% done this with Ulti in the past.

when have i ever had a long debate with ulti about semantics and what was it about specifically?

And yes, again, me talking about Ulti via Discord, especially when he essentially never reads it, is completely different to directly engaging him in conversation on the board. Please either take back the bizarre notion that there is any kind of a double standard or explain it more clearly.

i will take that back. i thought you said that in a discord server that ulti did read because ulti claimed he took a screenshot of the conversation. so i'll admit that i misinterpreted what happened there.
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XIII_rocks posted...

And FWIW I wanted to do this in PMs for your sake. You clearly have some unresolved issues with the way I treated you a year or so ago, and it's better to hash those things out privately where we can really dig into it on a personal level, rather than performatively air this dirty laundry on the board.

thanks for your concern but i'm fine with doing this on the board. i'm too old to lose sleep over how i potentially look bad to a bunch of people on a nearly-dead message board on a video game website.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

i will take that back. i thought you said that in a discord server that ulti did read because ulti claimed he took a screenshot of the conversation. so i'll admit that i misinterpreted what happened there.

Aight thanks
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i'm still dissatisfied with your posts in this topic, though. you said i "100% engaged with ulti in long debates about semantics," and then when i ask you to elaborate, you ignore me. this is how you've ALWAYS argued. you will make vague, non-specific accusations, and when asked to back yourself up with evidence, you can't. after 15 years of this, i'm really sick of it.

perhaps it's an idea to stop being belligerent all the time if you can't back your accusations up.
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This isn't an argument. This is you making a wild accusation that it then took you about 12 hours to take back. Everything else doesn't matter to me - this is your chip on your shoulder that you're finally dealing with I guess.

If you've ever responded to an Ulti point seriously and provided a counter, you are enabling him and I was right to criticise you. If you then responded to his response, you are simply making it worse and I was definitely right to criticise you. You want me to apologise for those criticisms, I won't, sorry. I was, and still am, right. Whether it lasted 3 or 30 or 300 posts, you responded to and thus enabled Ulti quite a lot. Do you deny it? Do you deny ever engaging Ulti, responding to his points? Like whatever about specific lengths of topics. It doesn't matter. Did this happen or didn't it?
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tons of people respond seriously to ulti posts. do you give all of them crap for it? or am i only supposed to not respond to ulti and does this rule not apply to anyone else on the board?
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I gave up a while ago, but yes, I used to criticse them too. I don't even know if you got it the worst (I've gone after Jakyl for it quite a bit too), but if you did then that's because you're the most argumentative on the board, leading to more posts and more arguments. Park the victim complex - this is very clearly something I've pursued with dozens of users for the last several years. Are you so self-centred that you think I was only talking to you when I brought it up in the politics topic?
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