Poll of the Day > Y'know... there's something off about Chrono Trigger (spoilers)

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Lokarin
07/01/19 4:21:36 PM
#1:


In order to beat the game, assuming you do all the side content too...

You have to commit at LEAST 4 Genocides

Kinda messed up, right?
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Johnny Eagle
07/01/19 4:29:51 PM
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Someone's going to have to remind me what those might be...
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Lokarin
07/01/19 4:41:57 PM
#3:


Johnny Eagle posted...
Someone's going to have to remind me what those might be...


You genocide the Reptites, the Enlightened, the future robots, and the "maybe" is Lavos' race itself
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darkknight109
07/01/19 5:23:15 PM
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You tagged the topic as CT spoilers, so I'm going to dispense with the spoiler tags.

The Reptites: You aren't responsible for killing them off, Lavos is. Literally drops on top of them from outer space and kicks off an ice age. Plus, if you play either Chrono Cross or the DS remake, you discover that the race isn't *completely* extinct.

The Enlightened Ones: Again, Lavos is responsible for this, not the party (and, depending on how much you want to lean on collective guilt, you could argue that the Enlightened Ones destroyed themselves, given that it was their creation of the Mammon Machine and the Ocean Palace that awakened Lavos).

Notably, both these die-offs happen in the Pre-Chrono Trigger timeline, which shows that the party didn't cause the extinctions. Chrono and company accomplish surprisingly little in Prehistory, as the timeline barely changes as a result of their actions, while their efforts in the Dark Ages mostly deal with individuals rather than wholesale cultural changes (their interference saves Queen Zeal and Daulton, causes Schala to be absorbed by Lavos, prevents the destruction of the Ocean Palace/Black Omen for a time and... honestly, that's basically it).

The Robots: The robots were in the process of genociding humanity, so a counter-genocide isn't all that morally indefensible (and "good" robots, like Robo or Johnny and his flunkies, are spared). Not to mention, by defeating Lavos and preventing the bad future, you're also preventing the future genocide by ensuring that the robots and humans never come into conflict (so far as we know).

Lavos: We don't know that Lavos is the last of its kind and, even if it was, the death of a single creature hardly constitutes a genocide.
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Locke90
07/01/19 6:07:19 PM
#5:


Lokarin posted...
Johnny Eagle posted...
Someone's going to have to remind me what those might be...


You genocide the Reptites, the Enlightened, the future robots, and the "maybe" is Lavos' race itself

the reptites were destroyed or diminished by lavos because of where he landed ,the enlightened were magical homicidal supremacists who wanted to wipe humanity out and the future robots were corrupted by the mother brain or whatever you fought in 2300 ad and had also attempted to destroy humanity.
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Lokarin
07/01/19 11:52:31 PM
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btw: If you count the spawners as just 1 monster (since they're the only ones you can refight)... there legitimately are 100 monsters in Magus' Castle
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Smarkil
07/02/19 1:46:42 AM
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The future robots would cease to ever exist so I'm not sure that qualifies.
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Bulbasaur
07/02/19 1:50:41 AM
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the thing that's off about chrono trigger is that it's unfun and sucks ass.
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yutterh
07/02/19 1:55:09 AM
#9:


Bulbasaur posted...
the thing that's off about chrono trigger is that it's unfun and sucks ass.


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Sahuagin
07/02/19 2:19:26 AM
#10:


Lokarin posted...
You have to commit at LEAST 4 Genocides

another one that I thought you meant at first which started in 600AD and is still in progress in 1000AD is the "magic" people/creatures. (not sure what they're called; all the imps/naga type creatures. they're tied to magic somehow and are slowly being replaced/forgotten to make way for the future sci-fi world that we never really get to see.)
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Lokarin
07/02/19 7:51:14 PM
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What if Lavos is actually really small, and the planet of Chrono Trigger is really small.... and Lavos is just a Geemer from Metroid?
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Justin2Krelian
07/02/19 8:00:33 PM
#12:


Lokarin posted...
and the planet of Chrono Trigger is really small


Isn't it?
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