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Awesome
06/30/19 4:40:40 PM
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Doe
06/30/19 4:41:17 PM
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Whoa one guy dislikes a Congresswoman?
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hockeybub89
06/30/19 4:42:02 PM
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People that experience extreme trauma don't always think with the clearest heads. Can't blame them for what they went through.
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SideshowBob311
06/30/19 4:49:35 PM
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Is this supposed to be news? She's dumber than a sack of hammers.
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CommonStar
06/30/19 4:52:29 PM
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She called the detainment facilities "concentration camps" not "Nazi concentration camps." There's a difference, but I guess people just look for excuses to hate her.
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tremain07
06/30/19 4:52:50 PM
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Liberas take another loss, Trump waddles towards another term and likely some other republican comes after him
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hockeybub89
06/30/19 4:53:11 PM
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16-BITTER posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
People that experience extreme trauma don't always think with the clearest heads. Can't blame them for what they went through.

Being elected to Congress isn't extreme trauma

oh you
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ThePrinceFish
06/30/19 4:54:02 PM
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CommonStar posted...
She called the detainment facilities "concentration camps" not "Nazi concentration camps." There's a difference, but I guess people just look for excuses to hate her.

The side of "you have to take into account historical context" for the slightest of slights sure is willing to twist into pretzels to pretend like everyone doesn't associate concentration camps with the Holocaust.
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boxington
06/30/19 4:55:01 PM
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and I went to a genocide conference last year where a survivor of both Auschwitz and Dachau suggested that the Trump adminstration's immigration policy has similarities to the Nazi regime's, if that's a metric you wanna go by
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cjsdowg
06/30/19 4:55:02 PM
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More then on scholar and survivor agrees with AOC.
The dictionary agrees with AOC.

Sorry Republicans Facts don't care about your feelings.
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Fossil
06/30/19 4:55:52 PM
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She deserves all the hate she gets.
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Smashingpmkns
06/30/19 4:56:09 PM
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Crazy how people are more upset at what she called them instead of, ya know, what's actually happening in these literal concentration camps.
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hockeybub89
06/30/19 4:56:50 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
CommonStar posted...
She called the detainment facilities "concentration camps" not "Nazi concentration camps." There's a difference, but I guess people just look for excuses to hate her.

The side of "you have to take into account historical context" for the slightest of slights sure is willing to twist into pretzels to pretend like everyone doesn't associate concentration camps with the Holocaust.

Who is arguing that the most famous example of this accurate term wasn't the Nazi version?
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cjsdowg
06/30/19 4:57:10 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...

The side of "you have to take into account historical context" for the slightest of slights sure is willing to twist into pretzels to pretend like everyone doesn't associate concentration camps with the Holocaust.


The term is correct, Sorry that people like you write off the bad stuff that happen to other groups. Since the holocaust was not even the first time Germany used them. So other who died in camps should be forgotten.
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cjsdowg
06/30/19 4:57:46 PM
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Fossil posted...
She deserves all the hate she gets.


Yeah how dare a brown women say truthful things .
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ThePrinceFish
06/30/19 4:59:23 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
ThePrinceFish posted...
CommonStar posted...
She called the detainment facilities "concentration camps" not "Nazi concentration camps." There's a difference, but I guess people just look for excuses to hate her.

The side of "you have to take into account historical context" for the slightest of slights sure is willing to twist into pretzels to pretend like everyone doesn't associate concentration camps with the Holocaust.

Who is arguing that the most famous example of this accurate term wasn't the Nazi version?

It's fun that you pretend like she didn't intentionally use the term to invoke the Holocaust. Pretending sure is fun, it's like exercise for your imagination.
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CommonStar
06/30/19 4:59:51 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
CommonStar posted...
She called the detainment facilities "concentration camps" not "Nazi concentration camps." There's a difference, but I guess people just look for excuses to hate her.

The side of "you have to take into account historical context" for the slightest of slights sure is willing to twist into pretzels to pretend like everyone doesn't associate concentration camps with the Holocaust.

Even if that were the case, it doesn't mean that there aren't other concentration camps outside of the Holocaust. And it doesn't take away from what happened in the holocaust by calling it a concentration which it is by definition.

Imagine being more mad about the usage of the term rather than the fucked up shit happening at these facilities.
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hockeybub89
06/30/19 4:59:54 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
ThePrinceFish posted...

The side of "you have to take into account historical context" for the slightest of slights sure is willing to twist into pretzels to pretend like everyone doesn't associate concentration camps with the Holocaust.


The term is correct, Sorry that people like you write off the bad stuff that happen to other groups. Since the holocaust was not even the first time Germany used them. So other who died in camps should be forgotten.

Forget those people from the Boer Wars and Japanese Americans too!
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Bluebomber182
06/30/19 5:00:48 PM
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many holocaust survivors also agreed with her comparison fyi

and youre fucking obsessed with her
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hockeybub89
06/30/19 5:00:51 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
ThePrinceFish posted...
CommonStar posted...
She called the detainment facilities "concentration camps" not "Nazi concentration camps." There's a difference, but I guess people just look for excuses to hate her.

The side of "you have to take into account historical context" for the slightest of slights sure is willing to twist into pretzels to pretend like everyone doesn't associate concentration camps with the Holocaust.

Who is arguing that the most famous example of this accurate term wasn't the Nazi version?

It's fun that you pretend like she didn't intentionally use the term to invoke the Holocaust. Pretending sure is fun, it's like exercise for your imagination.

Why would calling a bad thing a bad thing evoke other well known examples of bad thing?
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Bluebomber182
06/30/19 5:03:03 PM
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she used the textbook definition of concentration camp
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King_Hellebuyck
06/30/19 5:05:03 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Crazy how people are more upset at what she called them instead of, ya know, what's actually happening in these literal concentration camps.

Yeah, real clear how little value those people have for human life.
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hockeybub89
06/30/19 5:05:09 PM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
she used the textbook definition of concentration camp

But did you know the Nazis already made the worst concentration camps?
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coinstarcad
06/30/19 5:38:56 PM
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I don't know this Ed Mosburg, but by containing the term "concentration camps" to only the ones meant for Jews in Nazi Germany during WW2, is shitting on refugee kids at the border, Japanese Americans, Native Americans, and more.
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JE19426
06/30/19 5:40:27 PM
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The NYpost article makes the dude sound like an idiot. He really thinks the people in Trump's camps are there because they want to be there? That's what the NYPost's article makes it sound like he thinks.
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TheYellowOne462
06/30/19 6:31:47 PM
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Its always been shitty to call the illegal immigrant detention centers as concentration camps.
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Irony
06/30/19 7:01:09 PM
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TheYellowOne462 posted...
Its always been shitty to call the illegal immigrant detention centers as concentration camps.

The only difference between them is no execution at the end
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glitteringfairy
06/30/19 7:02:48 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
People that experience extreme trauma don't always think with the clearest heads. Can't blame them for what they went through.

This is pretty fucking offensive

"well of course his mind is gone cause he doesn't agree with my liberalism"

I've fucking marked you dude
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DrizztLink
06/30/19 7:03:42 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Crazy how people are more upset at what she called them instead of, ya know, what's actually happening in these literal concentration camps.

Yeah, real clear how little value those people have for human life.

If they latch on to this they don't have to think about it.
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Phantom_Nook
06/30/19 7:08:57 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Crazy how people are more upset at what she called them instead of, ya know, what's actually happening in these literal concentration camps.

Because they support what's happening in the concentration camps.
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ButteryMales
06/30/19 7:09:46 PM
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What the hell are you supposed to call concentration camps when they are concentration camps?
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averagejoel
06/30/19 7:15:13 PM
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Irony posted...
TheYellowOne462 posted...
Its always been shitty to call the illegal immigrant detention centers as concentration camps.

The only difference between them is no execution at the end

executing prisoners is not a defining feature of concentration camps. many concentration camps did not execute prisoners. hopefully, the concentration camps in question belong to that category.
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tennisdude818
06/30/19 7:18:48 PM
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The Nazis committed numerous crimes. Historians generally agree that their worst crime by far was blocking the illegal entry of foreign migrants. The fact that the Nazis seperated the children from the adults that they traveled with was especially bad, because the Nazis were trying to confirm that they were not human trafficking victims. It was a bit difficult for Hitler to maintain his camps because the volume of illegal border crossings in the direction of Nazi Germany was so high.
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mustachedmystic
06/30/19 7:20:40 PM
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Imho, it is extremely hyperbolic to call them concentration camps. If anyone wants to see a modern example of concentration camps, just look up what's happening in western China.
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asagi_mode_gone
06/30/19 7:22:47 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
What the hell are you supposed to call concentration camps when they are concentration camps?

If you're a Republican, you bring up how these illegals get hundreds spent on their shelter and food daily, plus security while there's homeless veterans.

That or, you know, misuse lines from the Bible to justify building a wall and locking up kids who were brought here by their parents.
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averagejoel
06/30/19 7:22:53 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
Imho, it is extremely hyperbolic to call them concentration camps.

then your opinion is incorrect. they are concentration camps.
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Smashingpmkns
06/30/19 7:22:57 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
Imho, it is extremely hyperbolic to call them concentration camps. If anyone wants to see a modern example of them, just look up what's happening in western China.


It's not hyperbolic. They fit the definition of a concentration camp.
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Anteaterking
06/30/19 7:23:24 PM
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averagejoel posted...
executing prisoners is not a defining feature of concentration camps. many concentration camps did not execute prisoners. hopefully, the concentration camps in question belong to that category.


To emphasize this, many NAZI concentration camps didn't even execute prisoners. Camps would just relocate people to the ones that did when they decided to.
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Irony
06/30/19 7:23:44 PM
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averagejoel posted...
Irony posted...
TheYellowOne462 posted...
Its always been shitty to call the illegal immigrant detention centers as concentration camps.

The only difference between them is no execution at the end

executing prisoners is not a defining feature of concentration camps. many concentration camps did not execute prisoners. hopefully, the concentration camps in question belong to that category.

I didn't say it was the defining feature it's one only feature that isn't seen in both like the others.
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Shablagoo
06/30/19 7:24:58 PM
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Doe posted...
Whoa one guy dislikes a Congresswoman?

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asagi_mode_gone
06/30/19 7:26:19 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
Imho, it is extremely hyperbolic to call them concentration camps. If anyone wants to see a modern example of concentration camps, just look up what's happening in western China.


>Literally fits the bill for every definition
>"Hyperbolic"
>Is unironically eating up propaganda about "Muslim re-education camps"
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Polycosm
06/30/19 7:28:54 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
What the hell are you supposed to call concentration camps when they are concentration camps?

According to Fox News host Laura Ingraham, we should call them summer camps. I mean, who doesn't have fond memories of those classic camp games like scavenger hunt-for-food, or distressed toddler charades?
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mustachedmystic
06/30/19 7:29:12 PM
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asagi_mode_gone posted...
>Is unironically eating up propaganda about "Muslim re-education camps"


Propaganda? The Chinese aren't denying it.
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DrizztLink
06/30/19 7:29:15 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
The Nazis committed numerous crimes. Historians generally agree that their worst crime by far was blocking the illegal entry of foreign migrants. The fact that the Nazis seperated the children from the adults that they traveled with was especially bad, because the Nazis were trying to confirm that they were not human trafficking victims. It was a bit difficult for Hitler to maintain his camps because the volume of illegal border crossings in the direction of Nazi Germany was so high.

what
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Foley__Is__GOOD
06/30/19 7:30:11 PM
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Let us hope the schoolchildren visitors are properly taught about the elegant swimming-pool at Auschwitz, built by the inmates, who would sunbathe there on Saturday and Sunday afternoons while watching the water-polo matches; and shown the paintings from its art class, which still exist; and told about the camp library which had some forty-five thousand volumes for inmates to choose from, plus a range of periodicals; and the six camp orchestras at Auschwitz/Birkenau, its theatrical performances, including a childrens opera, the weekly camp cinema, and even the special brothel established there. Lets hope they are shown postcards written from Auschwitz, some of which still exist, where the postman would collect the mail twice-weekly. Thus the past may not always be quite, as we were told.
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action52
06/30/19 7:35:23 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Crazy how people are more upset at what she called them instead of, ya know, what's actually happening in these literal concentration camps.

Yeah, real clear how little value those people have for human life.

Some of them do genuinely support it but know they can't admit it publicly. Some of them just want to get the "illegals" cleaned up and not think much about how it happens as long as they're out of the country.

Either way, they're desperately trying to steer the conversation away from what's actually happening.
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PleaseClap
06/30/19 7:35:41 PM
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Not really sure that this topic needed quotes from holocaust deniers in it
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King_Hellebuyck
06/30/19 7:42:16 PM
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PleaseClap posted...
Not really sure that this topic needed quotes from holocaust deniers in it

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