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Tmaster148 06/18/19 6:29:40 PM #455: |
Lord_Trevor posted...
Tmaster148 posted...Lord_Trevor posted...Tmaster148 posted...Gobstoppers12 posted...Tmaster148 posted...If pregnancy isn't a punishment, why are you trying to force it on people as a punishment? Adoption isn't much better for the child. Stop pretending it's some magical option that gives a child a magical life when most of them just end up living in a foster home without any real parental figures in their life. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 06/18/19 6:29:44 PM #456: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Tmaster148 posted... "i'm aware of the scientific facts but i disagree with them". you're wrong dude...this isn't a matter of opinion its a matter of fact, and you're arguing against FACTS. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 06/18/19 6:30:30 PM #457: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Tmaster148 posted... So basically you don't know shit about biology and want to push your own opinions instead of being informed. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strider102 06/18/19 6:31:21 PM #458: |
I just think both parties should be more responsible. Actually communicate with your partner and tell why you do or don't want a child. If the woman doesn't want a child the man should have to take steps to ensure pregnancy doesn't occur and if he doesn't the woman should tell him if he's not going to respect her wishes then nothing is going to happen, same situation for men who don't want to be fathers.
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Gobstoppers12 06/18/19 6:32:07 PM #459: |
Since this topic is approaching 500, and I have absolutely no intention of carrying this argument into a second topic, I'm gonna make my final post:
I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born. - Ronald Reagan Children have the right to life. Exceptions can be made for extreme circumstances, especially when the mother did not consent to the sexual encounter that conceived the child. Sex comes with responsibilities. I didn't make it that way, but it is that way. Education and understanding is key. Know the risks, make the preparations, be safe, don't punish your child for your mistakes. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PleaseClap 06/18/19 6:32:34 PM #460: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
whoa man that's so deep it really makes you think --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lord_Trevor 06/18/19 6:32:54 PM #462: |
Tmaster148 posted...
Lord_Trevor posted...Tmaster148 posted...Lord_Trevor posted...Tmaster148 posted...Gobstoppers12 posted...Tmaster148 posted...If pregnancy isn't a punishment, why are you trying to force it on people as a punishment? How do you know that? There are adopted children who have thrived. Adoption is a valid choice in giving a child a better life. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Inferno Dive Dragoon 06/18/19 6:33:10 PM #463: |
Tmaster148 posted...
Lord_Trevor posted...UnfairRepresent posted...Lord_Trevor posted...The idea of my mother or any woman being forced against her to will to carry a child and having no control over her own body or life is horrific. Really makes you worry how he treats his wife, and possibly daughters. --- Les aristocrates a la lanterne! Les aristocrates on les pendra! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 06/18/19 6:33:49 PM #464: |
It is NOT a child at that point. stop being dishonest, stop going against facts for your own agenda. you're against abortion and that's cool, but stop using lies to justify your stance. find a way to justify it truthfully. holy hell...
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Lord_Trevor 06/18/19 6:34:16 PM #465: |
Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
Tmaster148 posted...Lord_Trevor posted...UnfairRepresent posted...Lord_Trevor posted...The idea of my mother or any woman being forced against her to will to carry a child and having no control over her own body or life is horrific. Like Queens. Anything else? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DemonsHoles 06/18/19 6:34:29 PM #466: |
Pretty much all of you need to shut the fuck up
--- "Even if that's not the case, I would prefer this bill fail, since I'd rather see a Democrat get this win instead" -Doom_Art ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Inferno Dive Dragoon 06/18/19 6:35:45 PM #467: |
Lord_Trevor posted...
Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...Tmaster148 posted...Lord_Trevor posted...UnfairRepresent posted...Lord_Trevor posted...The idea of my mother or any woman being forced against her to will to carry a child and having no control over her own body or life is horrific. Uh huh, suuuure you do. This is of course assuming they'r even real in the first place though. --- Les aristocrates a la lanterne! Les aristocrates on les pendra! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 06/18/19 6:36:36 PM #468: |
Lord_Trevor posted...
How do you know that? There are adopted children who have thrived. Adoption is a valid choice in giving a child a better life. https://www.adoptioncouncil.org/blog/2018/01/stats-show-our-nations-foster-care-system-is-in-trouble https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-foster-care-crisis-the-shortage-of-foster-parents_b_59072dcfe4b05279d4edbdd9 --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Machete 06/18/19 6:36:36 PM #469: |
NinjaBreakfast posted...
'takes' like alarmist "what if you were aborted????" stuff are a lot more laughable than saying it wouldn't bother you if you were aborted [because you literally would not be aware of it] Yeah. It's not like I would have been all "oh fuck I'm being aborted! The pain is unbearable! I want to live! Stop aborting me! Wait, what language am I speaking? How do I know words? When did I start existing? Where even am I? I can't see anything. Are my eyes even formed yet? Now I've gone and confused myself :(" during the process. If I stopped existing before I was aware that I exist, what would I have definitively lost? Note, definitively, not speculatively. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lord_Trevor 06/18/19 6:39:02 PM #470: |
Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
Uh huh, suuuure you do. You must be the star of your debate club ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Inferno Dive Dragoon 06/18/19 6:40:54 PM #471: |
Lord_Trevor posted...
Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...Uh huh, suuuure you do. >shit-posts flagrantly >expects to be taken seriously Right, so whose alt are you anyway? --- Les aristocrates a la lanterne! Les aristocrates on les pendra! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lord_Trevor 06/18/19 6:46:09 PM #472: |
Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
Lord_Trevor posted...Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...Uh huh, suuuure you do. You have no argument. Got it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prestoff 06/18/19 6:47:15 PM #473: |
I think some of you guys need to do more research when making the claims you do. If you actually understand the adoption system and how broken it is, you will understand why using it as a magic answer to abortion just looks silly. There are much better options than adoption, one of the best options (though definitely not for everyone for obvious reasons) is having a grandma/mom/or someone more experience in taking care of your baby while you're out working or going to school. This has shown to be one of the more successful options (hell works if you're married and inexperience with baby/children handling). Because honestly taking care of a baby is a shit ton of work that I think some people here take very lightly. I know I had to learn how to change a baby's diaper at the age of 5 because my mom had a twin.
I'm anti-abortion (hence why I will always tell a woman to seek other options before going to abortion), but I'm also pro-choice in that taking away a woman's right to her body is even a worst precedent. --- It's what all true warriors strive for! Switch FC: SW-0575-4758-7878 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cornmuffins 06/18/19 6:49:17 PM #474: |
This has gotta be the fastest 500 topic we've had around here in a while. Nice work tc!
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TheVipaGTS 06/18/19 6:49:43 PM #475: |
I mean its just odd to me..."don't get an abortion! instead do this, this and this! (refuses to help fund "this this and this")"...
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Inferno Dive Dragoon 06/18/19 6:49:48 PM #476: |
Lord_Trevor posted...
Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...Lord_Trevor posted...Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...Uh huh, suuuure you do. Neither do you, apparently, but at least I'm not suffering from delusions and I'm capable of stepping up on my main. --- Les aristocrates a la lanterne! Les aristocrates on les pendra! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 06/18/19 6:50:27 PM #477: |
IfGodCouldDie posted...
@UnfairRepresent posted...Dumping her at the alter because you just fucked her sister and father. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lord_Trevor 06/18/19 6:57:39 PM #478: |
Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
Lord_Trevor posted...Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...Lord_Trevor posted...Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...Uh huh, suuuure you do. And how exactly am I deluded. By all means, sit in your armchair from wherever you are and tell me about my life since you know it so well. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 06/18/19 6:58:56 PM #479: |
Dump her
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Lord_Trevor 06/18/19 7:01:12 PM #480: |
IfGodCouldDie posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...@UnfairRepresent posted...Dumping her at the alter because you just fucked her sister and father. Perfectly reasonable. Abortion should still be something that's discussed in a relationship and come to a decision that both parties should agree on. If there are disagreements on the subject, it's perfectly reasonable to split. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hop103 06/18/19 7:06:47 PM #481: |
That woman is both suicidal and homicidal, she needs help.
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LeadPipeCinche 06/18/19 7:13:36 PM #483: |
LightningAce11 posted...
https://mobile.twitter.com/KayFellowz/status/1140215755881025536 Should've done it right there on the sidewalk in front of everyone. That'd get every body goin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 06/18/19 7:28:20 PM #484: |
Lord_Trevor posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...IfGodCouldDie posted...@UnfairRepresent posted...Dumping her at the alter because you just fucked her sister and father. I agree 100%, but I want UR's opinion based on his stance and the things he has said in this topic. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hawaiian_punch 06/18/19 7:39:00 PM #485: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...When people post videos of blacks people Lmao ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Machete 06/18/19 7:44:08 PM #486: |
Lord_Trevor posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...Lord_Trevor posted...The idea of my mother or any woman being forced against her to will to carry a child and having no control over her own body or life is horrific. the problem with your logic is that you are applying your own perspective to the conversation from your own life experience, and you would not have that perspective or life experience at the time of abortion. It's just downright silly that you would criticize my stance when it is formed on the pretense that I'm looking at it from the perspective of my fetus/embryo self and removing all of my life experience from the equation because it would not have happened at all in that scenario. I'm making peace with an outcome that could have happened to me, based on the perspective (though more accurate to say lack of perspective) I would have had at the time. I'm not ungrateful for my life in the slightest. I'm just not disingenuous as to say I would have "lost" any of it had I been aborted. I simply would have not gained any of it. I was never entitled to it in the first place and it only happened because a different choice was made. I'm not going to use this timeline to justify the fact that a different timeline did not in reality occur. I hope that you can understand my post better having this one for context. --- https://talktotransformer.com The Internet is kind of the whole ****ing Internet. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lord_Trevor 06/18/19 7:44:26 PM #487: |
McgeesAlice808 posted...
Lord_Trevor posted...UnfairRepresent posted...Lord_Trevor posted...The idea of my mother or any woman being forced against her to will to carry a child and having no control over her own body or life is horrific. Insecure of what? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Machete 06/18/19 7:45:57 PM #488: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Tmaster148 posted... why was the bolded portion included in that post? It does not belong there and is factually false. --- https://talktotransformer.com The Internet is kind of the whole ****ing Internet. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lord_Trevor 06/18/19 7:48:22 PM #489: |
Machete posted...
Lord_Trevor posted...UnfairRepresent posted...Lord_Trevor posted...The idea of my mother or any woman being forced against her to will to carry a child and having no control over her own body or life is horrific. I'm still laughing at you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hawaiian_punch 06/18/19 7:51:41 PM #490: |
Lmao this topic is still going
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jborgan 06/18/19 7:53:19 PM #491: |
Lord_Trevor posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...Lord_Trevor posted...Machete posted...the fact that I could have been aborted is fine by me. Are you using an alt because your reading comprehension sucks? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hawaiian_punch 06/18/19 7:54:09 PM #492: |
To 500!
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Lord_Trevor 06/18/19 7:56:10 PM #493: |
jborgan posted...
Lord_Trevor posted...TheVipaGTS posted...Lord_Trevor posted...Machete posted...the fact that I could have been aborted is fine by me. Did an alt inappropriately touch multiple users on this board or something? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Machete 06/18/19 8:00:22 PM #494: |
Tmaster148 posted...
Lord_Trevor posted...Tmaster148 posted...Lord_Trevor posted...Tmaster148 posted...Gobstoppers12 posted...Tmaster148 posted...If pregnancy isn't a punishment, why are you trying to force it on people as a punishment? It's worth noting that I have no serious complaints about my own situation. I was adopted at 2 months old. I was never lied to about it. I was never in the system. Any negative thing within my family dynamic at any point in my life was FAR from exclusive to kids put up for adoption. That being said, I've always had a sense of something missing and identity issues. As much as my parents have done for me and as much as I appreciate them, I've never truly bonded with another human being in any meaningful way. I'm not "cut from the same cloth" so to speak as anyone I've ever met. It just doesn't matter how many times I'm told that I should never feel alone because I'm not alone, there is a deep-rooted sense of aloneness that I've never been able to shake, no matter how accepted or loved I'm led to feel. I'm just not on the same wavelength. I don't know if that's common for adopted people or if it's just some complex I've developed, but I'm beyond the point where I can imagine what life would be like without it. I'm not speaking about it as a means to push for abortion, but rather as a confirmation of what was said in the post I'm responding to, that even under ideal circumstances, adoption is not some magical option... and even if it was, I'm saying this more as the rule than the exception. --- https://talktotransformer.com The Internet is kind of the whole ****ing Internet. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andel 06/18/19 8:01:18 PM #495: |
almost 500 what a shitshow
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Machete 06/18/19 8:02:43 PM #497: |
PleaseClap posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted... and here I am posting some pretty serious personal shit on Current Events board on Gamefaqs.gamespot.com like it might actually mean anything to anyone -_- --- https://talktotransformer.com The Internet is kind of the whole ****ing Internet. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hawaiian_punch 06/18/19 8:02:51 PM #498: |
Lol
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Hawaiian_punch 06/18/19 8:02:57 PM #499: |
500!
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Austin_Era_II 06/18/19 8:03:33 PM #500: |
K
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