Current Events > If a cop stops and tries to question you, are you free to leave?

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Supposing they walk up to you on the street and begin questioning you, can you ignore them and walk away?
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I mean, technically yes, but they can also detain you for no reason for up to 24 hours so I probably wouldn't.
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This thread makes me want to bash my head against the road until my skull cracks open.
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I ask to talk to their manager
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You can ask if youre under arrest or being detained. If they have nothing to keep you on, you can peace out.
However, they still have a nasty habit of murdering people regardless and not facing any consequences, so your mileage may vary.
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Just angrily ask them Am I being detained or am I free to go? - if they dont give you a straight answer, ask again more belligerently. Repeat as needed.
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"You're under arrest."

"For what?"

"For resisting arrest."

"But I'm not-"

"GET DOWN ON THE GROUND NOW!"

"Wh-what.."

"HE'S GOT A GUN!"
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

Just angrily ask them Am I being detained or am I free to go? - if they dont give you a straight answer, ask again more belligerently. Repeat as needed.

This, but not belligerently because of "disorderly conduct."
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St0rmFury posted...

"You're under arrest."

"For what?"

"For resisting arrest."

"But I'm not-"

"GET DOWN ON THE GROUND NOW!"

"Wh-what.."

"HE'S GOT A GUN!"

BANG BANG BANG BANG
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manmouse posted...

You can ask if youre under arrest or being detained. If they have nothing to keep you on, you can peace out.
However, they still have a nasty habit of murdering people regardless and not facing any consequences, so your mileage may vary.

This TC
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Cops are terrifying, and they shouldn't be. Unless you're a criminal, you should be at peace and at ease when you see one around. Media has made us scared of them. Is it for good reason? Are they all bloodthirsty, trigger happy psychos, or is that just how they are perceived because of incidents that are rare (in the grand scheme of things) get blown up by the media?
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In a body bag
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You are not free to leave unless stated you are free to go. If you want to challenge them, by all means, go ahead. Just give a shout-out to the bodycam.
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Am I under arrest?
No but
Then Deuces, later

Is how it should go but instead
Am I under arrest
That depends on you
Then I'm not
*tries to leave and cop grabs you*

You are now under arrest for resisting an officer.
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If a Cop asks you for something you politely do it. If you feel like he did something wrong you should get a lawyer ASAP.
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you dont have to say anything to pigs.
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Do they keep a database of every time they run your ID, so even if you never get charged for anything, you still have some mark like "too many contacts with the police"?

Like if you are stopped by police for nothing and always let go with no ticket or fine or anything, after checking your ID, 1-3 times every week?

I read a comment by someone, but they may be full of shit.
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manmouse posted...

However, they still have a nasty habit of murdering people regardless and not facing any consequences, so your mileage may vary.

based ce
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Just don't move too suddenly, they're like dogs and startle easily. Put some sort of food item on the ground and slowly back away from the area
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ultimate reaver posted...

Just don't move too suddenly, they're like dogs and startle easily. Put some sort of food item on the ground and slowly back away from the area

Donuts and coffee work best.

Must be fresh however. Stale donuts or cold coffee invoke a blood rage.
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Well a lot of misinformation and a lot of just ridiculous things in this topic

What you describe in that topic title is a consensual stop. You are free to leave you can tell that cop fuck off

There are two other things

Reasonable suspicion and probable cause. RS gives an officer an hour with you. Probable cause is basically you have committed a crime/ infraction and that officer has a legal right to detain you
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It's crazy how many of you are so scared for no reason, that's part of the problem.

If you're not doing anything wrong and you're not a dick then this shouldn't be an issue. I've had plenty of cops stop me, follow me, talk to me, pull me over, all types of shit and if you act like an adult then there's not an issue. More people need to realize that.
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

It's crazy how many of you are so scared for no reason, that's part of the problem.

If you're not doing anything wrong and you're not a dick then this shouldn't be an issue. I've had plenty of cops stop me, follow me, talk to me, pull me over, all types of shit and if you act like an adult then there's not an issue. More people need to realize that.

There's a reason cops (and people in general) find sovereign citizens insufferable. Never has there been an instance where the cop goes "Oh man, they know more about the law than I do! I guess you're free to go, have a nice day, sorry for the inconvenience upstanding citizen!"

Follow orders, don't be a insubordinate, take 'em to court later if you wish to do so.
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i would just look at them and shout

AM I BEING DETAINED??
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

It's crazy how many of you are so scared for no reason, that's part of the problem.

If you're not doing anything wrong and you're not a dick then this shouldn't be an issue. I've had plenty of cops stop me, follow me, talk to me, pull me over, all types of shit and if you act like an adult then there's not an issue. More people need to realize that.

Maybe it's because a day doesn't go by that shit like this doesn't happen.
https://www.wistv.com/2019/06/11/utah-boy-held-gunpoint-by-police-officer-mother-believes-incident-racially-motivated/
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manmouse posted...

You can ask if youre under arrest or being detained. If they have nothing to keep you on, you can peace out.
However, they still have a nasty habit of murdering people regardless and not facing any consequences, so your mileage may vary.

http://www.startribune.com/police-shootings-the-risk-is-lower-than-you-probably-imagine/428044703/
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"if you're not doing anything wrong" is a stupid reason to yield your rights. I hate bootlicker logic.

one being okay with their rights being routinely infringed upon is on them, but to suggest others do the same is sad and unpatriotic.

then there are the people who actually blame the media for cop hate more so than personal interactions and decades upon decades of a corrupt police culture.

smh
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I don't understand the difficulty of just talking out any confusion/misunderstanding for a minute. I'd get it if you're being harassed by cops every week/month but to have a cop want your attention for a minute shouldn't be a big deal. I literally give every person I bump into in society my ear for a couple minutes if they want it, which is a lot. Im not gonna all of a sudden get uptight just cause they're a cop. They do however give me slight anxiety even when Im not holding.
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Cops make up reasons to stop you
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Theres a good chance the cop wont follow the law exactly how he should, and can claim you did whatever and may just feel like "his life was at risk".

Theyre decently scary.
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I used to want to be a cop until I saw how so many were bullies. I guess I was more influenced by honest cop shows.

But the reality led me to believe that you have to sacrifice some of your humanity to be the cop the city wants you to be. I always feel like police interactions are likely to be escalated by a cop with an ego, so I go in with a certain level of anxiety
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Retail pushes sales. Cops push arrests.
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People don't realize the big issue. Cop culture. Cops WILL NOT rat on each other no matter what, because if you do rat, other cops will make your life a living hell or you will be driven off the force.

Not all cops do fucked up shit, but all cops are complicit in letting the minority of cops get away with anything. All of them. Which makes them just as bad.
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Pukelid posted...

Cops make up reasons to stop you

I don't have the look that they go for, so they don't. Sometimes Im in suspicious places playing Pokemon Go at 2am and they still just drive pass. Id approach this conversation different if we weren't a bunch of white boys trying to adapt the anxiety that black people should have. We should have minor anxiety at worst. We're not the ones that their dad raised them to fear.
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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Pukelid posted...

Cops make up reasons to stop you

I don't have the look that they go for, so they don't. Sometimes Im in suspicious places playing Pokemon Go at 2am and they still just drive pass. Id approach this conversation different if we weren't a bunch of white boys trying to adapt the anxiety that black people should have. We should have minor anxiety at worst. We're not the ones that their dad raised them to fear.

My ex lieutenant father raised me to fear cops. I have been stopped for bullshit reasons.
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Great thread CE.
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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Pukelid posted...

Cops make up reasons to stop you

I don't have the look that they go for, so they don't. Sometimes Im in suspicious places playing Pokemon Go at 2am and they still just drive pass. Id approach this conversation different if we weren't a bunch of white boys trying to adapt the anxiety that black people should have. We should have minor anxiety at worst. We're not the ones that their dad raised them to fear.

they got me twice playing Pokemon, lol. the first time 3 cars showed up at 3am and blinded me with their lights. that shit scary but they left after they couldn't find anything.

the 2nd time I was approached was by a cop who was there for the same reason as me. he just wanted to confirm, lol.
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Yeah but we all know how that turns out. As much as it sucks you are better off just doing what they say otherwise you run the risk of being murdered.

MrMallard posted...

This thread makes me want to bash my head against the road until my skull cracks open.

I think you'll find a car door to be more appropriate. I'm sure the cop would be happy to let you use his.
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LightningAce11 posted...

Supposing they walk up to you on the street and begin questioning you, can you ignore them and walk away?

You could try, but I wouldn't recommend it. Just be friendly and somewhat cooperative, but don't answer any unjustified, self incriminating questions or consent to any unlawful searches or seizures. Then if things are still uncertain, ask if you are being detained, and if not, if you can leave before you actually try to do so.
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MKScorpion posted...

Yeah but we all know how that turns out. As much as it sucks you are better off just doing what they say otherwise you run the risk of being murdered.

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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

Pukelid posted...

Cops make up reasons to stop you

I don't have the look that they go for, so they don't. Sometimes Im in suspicious places playing Pokemon Go at 2am and they still just drive pass. Id approach this conversation different if we weren't a bunch of white boys trying to adapt the anxiety that black people should have. We should have minor anxiety at worst. We're not the ones that their dad raised them to fear.

they got me twice playing Pokemon, lol. the first time 3 cars showed up at 3am and blinded me with their lights. that shit scary but they left after they couldn't find anything.

the 2nd time I was approached was by a cop who was there for the same reason as me. he just wanted to confirm, lol.

Lol, that's pretty dope.
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tremain07 posted...

Am I under arrest?
No but

You are being detained!!!

Is a typical response. When you ask why the response could be a list of things.
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Number090684 posted...

MKScorpion posted...

Yeah but we all know how that turns out. As much as it sucks you are better off just doing what they say otherwise you run the risk of being murdered.

You can be murdered by cops even when you follow their orders.
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One time when I was a teenager I used to go to this church after school and sit in the parking lot and smoke weed. It had a great view, thats why I went there. Eventually, somebody called the cops on me (obviously) and this cop crept up on me just as I was taking a bong rip and he fucking bumrushed me and grabbed me and handcuffed me. Smashed my bong on the ground while shouting DISRESPECTFUL PIECE OF SHIT and I was like

Put me in the cop car and took me to jail while lecturing me how disrespectful I was for smoking weed in a church parking lot. Im like, but the view..

Eventually my mom came and I got out without any sort of punishment.

I wasnt scared straight by this situation, but I definitely was like damn that cop went way too far on that

St0rmFury posted...

Number090684 posted...

MKScorpion posted...

Yeah but we all know how that turns out. As much as it sucks you are better off just doing what they say otherwise you run the risk of being murdered.

You can be murdered by cops even when you follow their orders.

Cooperating with them at least can possibly increase your chances of walking away alive though. It's sad that we have to even do a risk assessment when it comes to casual encounter with the police, but that's the kind of world we live in.
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MICHALECOLE posted...

One time when I was a teenager I used to go to this church after school and sit in the parking lot and smoke weed. It had a great view, thats why I went there. Eventually, somebody called the cops on me (obviously) and this cop crept up on me just as I was taking a bong rip and he fucking bumrushed me and grabbed me and handcuffed me. Smashed my bong on the ground while shouting DISRESPECTFUL PIECE OF SHIT and I was like

Put me in the cop car and took me to jail while lecturing me how disrespectful I was for smoking weed in a church parking lot. Im like, but the view..

Eventually my mom came and I got out without any sort of punishment.

I wasnt scared straight by this situation, but I definitely was like damn that cop went way too far on that

Eh, you didn't deserve to be physically assaulted, but he was right when it came to it being disrespectful.
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Number090684 posted...

MICHALECOLE posted...

One time when I was a teenager I used to go to this church after school and sit in the parking lot and smoke weed. It had a great view, thats why I went there. Eventually, somebody called the cops on me (obviously) and this cop crept up on me just as I was taking a bong rip and he fucking bumrushed me and grabbed me and handcuffed me. Smashed my bong on the ground while shouting DISRESPECTFUL PIECE OF SHIT and I was like

Put me in the cop car and took me to jail while lecturing me how disrespectful I was for smoking weed in a church parking lot. Im like, but the view..

Eventually my mom came and I got out without any sort of punishment.

I wasnt scared straight by this situation, but I definitely was like damn that cop went way too far on that

Eh, you didn't deserve to be physically assaulted, but he was right when it came to it being disrespectful.

Nah, obviously I was being disrespectful and breaking the law. I was like 15 and stupid.

Im not even mad about what happened. If I heard this story happening to somebody else Id be like lol okay are you alive? Get over it.

Just something I experienced

yes, but they are legally entitled to shoot you for resisting conversation
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VIIVincent posted...

You are not free to leave unless stated you are free to go.

Lol where did you learn criminal procedure?

So many people here seem to think they know the law and then spout out objectively false information.
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