Current Events > Women's US soccer team under fire for over celebrating, other team left in tears

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Im not a football fan, but my mom and sister are, and its a proud sport in the country, so i know a bit

13-0 is nasty... the losing team got owned hard.
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Does it suck to lose with such a high number? Of course.
But that's the losing team's fault. Not the winning team's.

They should treat this as a learning experience for next time.

There have been worse scores out there, they'll get over it, like the rest of them.
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mhbigboss posted...

There have been worse scores out there, they'll get over it, like the rest of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1916_Cumberland_vs._Georgia_Tech_football_game

Questionmarktarius posted...

mhbigboss posted...

There have been worse scores out there, they'll get over it, like the rest of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1916_Cumberland_vs._Georgia_Tech_football_game

Jesus fucking Christ when did murder become legal
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Christ...show some mercy 13-0.

Not much of a celebration to be had there.
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As an Australian I've literally never seen "running up the score" as a negative thing, or something to even blame on the winning side. If an AFL team gets beaten by 150 points, literally 100% of the blame is on the shitty incompetent side. Hell, even in low country levels everyone gets a good laugh out of a nice 300-0 scoreline because duh.

Literally the only time I've seen there be any consideration whatsoever for how dominant a side is was in under 12s basketball since the competition required the other side to score for the winning side to be granted percentage, which obviously led to condescending "everyone stand aside like it's free throws" phase in the last three minutes. This is what Americans want in their professional level sports?

Torrific posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Torrific posted...

Master_Bass posted...

I didn't see the game, but the pictures don't look bad to me. I don't think you should insult the opposing team or anything, but I don't see anything wrong with celebrating a goal.

They were wearing red. Watch this video instead:

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None of those celebrations were if poor sportsmanship.

I agree. I just wanted Master_Bass to form his conclusion based on actual footage rather than the wrong pic of them wearing white.

Yeah, I agree as well.

They even gave hugs to the opposing team at the end.
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It's international play, not a rec team made of kids. Pour it on! They should have celebrated harder.

If the opposing team can't handle it, then next time they shouldn't fucking enter the tournament.
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Disengaged posted...

Torrific posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Torrific posted...

Master_Bass posted...

I didn't see the game, but the pictures don't look bad to me. I don't think you should insult the opposing team or anything, but I don't see anything wrong with celebrating a goal.

They were wearing red. Watch this video instead:

-snip-

None of those celebrations were if poor sportsmanship.

I agree. I just wanted Master_Bass to form his conclusion based on actual footage rather than the wrong pic of them wearing white.

Yeah, I agree as well.

They even gave hugs to the opposing team at the end.

https://twitter.com/foxsoccer/status/1138547110079369216

The highlight video Torrific posted didn't show the celebrations.
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Would you tell a men's team to not score or celebrate?

This shit always comes up whenever women are criticized for something.

Yes, men do and have gotten criticized for rubbing in a crushing victory. When Germany wrecked Brazil, they decided to let off in the second half to not further embarrass them. Its called sportsmanship.
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for some players this is their first World Cup goal, and they should be excited... Would you tell a men's team to not score or celebrate?'

As someone who proudly calls themselves a feminist, while also a sports fan, I have to disagree with Abby on this one. Men are constantly criticized for celebrating too much or taunting their opponents.
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1st vs 34th ranked teams, it's like beating up the dim fat kid and bragging about it

mhbigboss posted...

Does it suck to lose with such a high number? Of course.
But that's the losing team's fault. Not the winning team's.

People aren't criticizing the excessive scoring. They're criticizing the excessive celebrating.
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Call me UnAmerican or a Benedict Arnold but it would be glorious to see France beat USA 1-0 in the championship and see the USA women cry like they made the poor Thai women cry. 1-0 would be oh so worse cause it's only by 1 in the championship game. So close and yet so so far.
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How winning group stage teams are decided

Highest number of points
Goal difference
Goals scored
Points obtained in group games between teams concerned
Goal difference from games involving teams concerned
Number of goals scored in games between teams concerned
Fair play points
Drawing of lots by FIFA
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Krojen posted...

Disengaged posted...

Torrific posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Torrific posted...

Master_Bass posted...

I didn't see the game, but the pictures don't look bad to me. I don't think you should insult the opposing team or anything, but I don't see anything wrong with celebrating a goal.

They were wearing red. Watch this video instead:

-snip-

None of those celebrations were if poor sportsmanship.

I agree. I just wanted Master_Bass to form his conclusion based on actual footage rather than the wrong pic of them wearing white.

Yeah, I agree as well.

They even gave hugs to the opposing team at the end.

https://twitter.com/foxsoccer/status/1138547110079369216

The highlight video Torrific posted didn't show the celebrations.

All right, this just in, we have received unseen footage, standby.
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How is being happy you won bad sportsmanship?
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DrPrimemaster posted...

How winning group stage teams are decided

Highest number of points
Goal difference
Goals scored
Points obtained in group games between teams concerned
Goal difference from games involving teams concerned
Number of goals scored in games between teams concerned
Fair play points
Drawing of lots by FIFA

End fucking thread.
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Cheering cause you won, doesnt make you a bad winner

Imo, you are only a bad winner if you rub it into the opponents faces, and does so maliciously.

Im not hearing they did anything like that.
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darkjedilink posted...

DrPrimemaster posted...

How winning group stage teams are decided

Highest number of points
Goal difference
Goals scored
Points obtained in group games between teams concerned
Goal difference from games involving teams concerned
Number of goals scored in games between teams concerned
Fair play points
Drawing of lots by FIFA

End fucking thread.

People are complaining about excessive celebration, not excessive scoring. Also, there's a 0% chance tiebreakers come into play for the US.
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SuperVegito2487 posted...

Cheering cause you won, doesnt make you a bad winner

Imo, you are only a bad winner if you rub it into the opponents faces, and does so maliciously.

Im not hearing they did anything like that.

At amateur levels, cheering too much does make you a poor sport.

But this isn't an amateur competition. At all. Now, at professional levels, I'd argue doing things like Terrell Owens celebrations makes you a poor sport, but there's nothing wrong with group hugging/high fiving/etc. I don't care if it's the 1st goal or the 13th, especially in the highest-level competition on Earth.
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bover_87 posted...

At amateur levels, cheering too much does make you a poor sport.

Well that sounds stupid to me.

As long as you dont taunt the opponent of course.
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Disengaged posted...

Krojen posted...

Disengaged posted...

Torrific posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Torrific posted...

Master_Bass posted...

I didn't see the game, but the pictures don't look bad to me. I don't think you should insult the opposing team or anything, but I don't see anything wrong with celebrating a goal.

They were wearing red. Watch this video instead:

-snip-

None of those celebrations were if poor sportsmanship.

I agree. I just wanted Master_Bass to form his conclusion based on actual footage rather than the wrong pic of them wearing white.

Yeah, I agree as well.

They even gave hugs to the opposing team at the end.

https://twitter.com/foxsoccer/status/1138547110079369216

The highlight video Torrific posted didn't show the celebrations.

All right, this just in, we have received unseen footage, standby.

:Edit:
And it's a REALLY happy and excited athlete.

Yeah theres just nothing here.

For people to criticize for poor sportsmanship like this I would expect to see like getting in the other teams face and mocking them or something.

To outsiders unfamiliar with sports, I could see that take. For better context, these are women that have won World Cups running around hamming it up after a dozen goals against one of the worst teams in the world.

I say this as someone that cashed a USA -7 ticket on the game.
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voldothegr8 posted...

Would you tell a men's team to not score or celebrate?'

Oh come off yourself. Gender has nothing to do with sportsmanship. That said, if the Thai players suck that much they should never have been in the match to start with.
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This was done in poor taste. If youre winning by so much and you are continually celebrating thats just rubbing it in and thats not good sportsmanship.

Theres sore losers but there is also sore winners.
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The goal differential matters at this point in the tournament so I don't care, it benefits them to score as much as they can.

However, I've always been rubbed the wrong way by the stuck up arrogance of USWNT and they're the only national team that I actually like to see lose, so hopefully that'll happen at some point in the tournament.
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The Thailand women's soccer team should just become MLB pitchers at this point.
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Celebrating a win is fine, rubbing the losing teams face in it is not ok.

I am not seeing anything other then celebrating a win here so I dont see anything wrong.
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Yeah people seem to be confused by this. They aren't being criticised for celebrating, they are being criticised for OVER celebrating. They were basically celebrating like they won the damn game after each and every goal. That is what is considered going to far and poor sportsmanship.

They didn't get criticised for this the last World Cup, and they won the damn thing. So obviously they went to far this time.
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This team is fucking horrible. They are as much of a disgrace to the USA as Donald Trump
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Gamerguymass posted...

Yeah people seem to be confused by this. They aren't being criticised for celebrating, they are being criticised for OVER celebrating. They were basically celebrating like they won the damn game after each and every goal. That is what is considered going to far and poor sportsmanship.

They didn't get criticised for this the last World Cup, and they won the damn thing. So obviously they went to far this time.

they won 13-0

their best win in the 2015 cup was by 3 which was actually in the final against japan

not the same at all
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bknight posted...

In times like this I ask myself, 'what would the president do'.

Theres CE again bringing Trump into something that has NOTHING to do with him.

Pathetic

I remember when germany trashed brazil, they didn't over do the celebration after 4 or 5 goals and the scoreline in that was half this game.

Goal differential matters, don't stop scoring. Just do a little "yes" and move on after 7 or 8

Remember when Christine Sinclair racked up the hat trick against America and was humble af?

Fuck Abby wambauch.

Also know that a tsn reporter lady got death threats for criticizing the us team for celebrating so hard.
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More like Cryland.
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What does Hope Solo have to say about all this?

edit: answered my own question, apparently even she thinks they went overboard

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/12/sport/hope-solo-uswnt-celebrations-trnd/index.html
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Paper_Okami posted...

Gamerguymass posted...

Yeah people seem to be confused by this. They aren't being criticised for celebrating, they are being criticised for OVER celebrating. They were basically celebrating like they won the damn game after each and every goal. That is what is considered going to far and poor sportsmanship.

They didn't get criticised for this the last World Cup, and they won the damn thing. So obviously they went to far this time.

they won 13-0

their best win in the 2015 cup was by 3 which was actually in the final against japan

not the same at all

Ok, still doesn't change the fact that you don't need to act like you won the game after every goal. That doesn't mean you can't celebrate, it just means don't be a dick about it.
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avec_fromage posted...

Would you tell a men's team to not score or celebrate?

This shit always comes up whenever women are criticized for something.

Yes, men do and have gotten criticized for rubbing in a crushing victory. When Germany wrecked Brazil, they decided to let off in the second half to not further embarrass them. Its called sportsmanship.

If we dont show sportsmanship thats when fists starts to fly.

Lets be honest, we know how it works. Its the code.
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Light celebrations here

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darkjedilink posted...

AsucaHayashi posted...

The World Cup favorites thrashed the minnows in Riems, France on Tuesday night and reacted to each goal as if it were their first.

well, that's stupid.

i'm not gonna pound my chest or scream out my lungs while running for the stands on the 13th goal in a 13-0 game... let alone the 5th to 12th.

Goal total breaks ties, bruh.

never said i would stop scoring

just wouldn't act like a total dickhead about it.
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Ironically I have more of a problem with the goals scored than the celebrations. It reminded me of the first week or two of college football when you see ranked schools beat I-AA schools like 77-0. Whats even the point of scoring that much? lmao

People are harping way too much on goal differential. The US will NOT need any tiebreakers to advance past the group stage. I guarantee it.
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TheBiggerWiggle posted...

Ironically I have more of a problem with the goals scored than the celebrations. It reminded me of the first week or two of college football when you see ranked schools beat I-AA schools like 77-0. Whats even the point of scoring that much? lmao

People are harping way too much on goal differential. The US will NOT need any tiebreakers to advance past the group stage. I guarantee it.

Maybe to advance with the better place. They said another team in that group is also strong, if that team faces thailand after the trashing they already received who knows what sort of thrashing that other team can do to a beaten nation

TheBiggerWiggle posted...

It reminded me of the first week or two of college football when you see ranked schools beat I-AA schools like 77-0. Whats even the point of scoring that much? lmao

So first thing, those schools are getting buttloads of money for those games. Millions and millions. Next thing, in college there's style points. You got 2 teams, one team beat their soft teams by 30 points. Other team beats those soft teams by 70 points. That team is getting the higher ranking.

This is just more of taking it out on other people instead of yourself. If you got whooped up on that means you gotta work harder, or you were just insanely outmatched.....either way, it's not the end of the world and in these athlete's lives they've played hundreds of games. The complainers are never complaining when they're winning. ....I get that it's the celebrating that people are upset about, but nah, who the shit cares about that. It's soccer, everyone celebrates over the top.
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

TheBiggerWiggle posted...

It reminded me of the first week or two of college football when you see ranked schools beat I-AA schools like 77-0. Whats even the point of scoring that much? lmao

So first thing, those schools are getting buttloads of money for those games. Millions and millions. Next thing, in college there's style points. You got 2 teams, one team beat their soft teams by 30 points. Other team beats those soft teams by 70 points. That team is getting the higher ranking.

This is just more of taking it out on other people instead of yourself. If you got whooped up on that means you gotta work harder, or you were just insanely outmatched.....either way, it's not the end of the world and in these athlete's lives they've played hundreds of games. The complainers are never complaining when they're winning. ....I get that it's the celebrating that people are upset about, but nah, who the shit cares about that. It's soccer, everyone celebrates over the top.

Meh. I could argue that if a team needs to get destroyed for three hours by a much bigger school then maybe that school shouldnt have a football program.

Also no one on the playoff selection committee is impressed by a team hanging 70 on Norfolk State lmao
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As I said in another topic this is such a non-issue that shows people actively search for shit to complain about
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Ban celebration
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Blue_Popo posted...

TheBiggerWiggle posted...

Ironically I have more of a problem with the goals scored than the celebrations. It reminded me of the first week or two of college football when you see ranked schools beat I-AA schools like 77-0. Whats even the point of scoring that much? lmao

People are harping way too much on goal differential. The US will NOT need any tiebreakers to advance past the group stage. I guarantee it.

Maybe to advance with the better place. They said another team in that group is also strong, if that team faces thailand after the trashing they already received who knows what sort of thrashing that other team can do to a beaten nation

I hear you, but one of the teams in our group (Chile) is actually ranked lower than Thailand was, and two teams advance out of each group. I'm telling you we won't need those tie breakers. The US will smash both teams, and Sweden will smash both teams. Whatever happens between the US and Sweden is irrelevant because both teams will advance.

If you look, the second largest goal differential is France with +5, and they've won two games already. 13 is just hilarious in a mean way lmao
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Funkydog posted...

There's winning and then there's just beating someone who's already down and rubbing it in their faces.

lol shut the fuck up

The mens team comment is spot on. People never complain when an NBA player scores 3 pointers or when an NFL player scores a touchdown. There is nothing wrong with someone celebrating scoring a goal.
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sylverlolol posted...

People never complain when an NBA player scores 3 pointers or when an NFL player scores a touchdown.

Actually, they do quite a bit, if the basketball score is 140 to 50, or the NFL score is 63 to 0.
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