Current Events > Women's US soccer team under fire for over celebrating, other team left in tears

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7130947/US-team-slammed-disgusting-obnoxious-celebrations.html

USA thrashed Thailand 13-0 in Women's World Cup in France on Tuesday night and celebrated every goal

With Thai players left in tears, fans and commentators have slammed the 'disgusting' celebrations

But some viewers have defended the team, saying the players are just excited for the tournament

Former U.S. men's national team player Taylor Twellman criticized the American women: 'Celebrating goals (like #9) leaves a sour taste in my mouth like many of you. Curious to see if anyone apologizes for this'

Ex-U.S. women's player Abby Wambach supported her old teammates: '... for some players this is their first World Cup goal, and they should be excited... Would you tell a men's team to not score or celebrate?'

The debate over sportsmanship got so heated that former Canadian team player and current TSN analyst Kaylyn Kyle says she received death threats after criticizing the U.S. women

I don't mind at all and don't consider it bad sportsmanship. Any team that loses 13-0 in soccer, on the grandest of stages no less, deserves the embarrassment. Don't like it, git gud.
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Im torn but I voted yes

The womens world cup is silly, womes sports across the world isnt like It is in north america, so maybe the us team should kill these teams and have fun with it

Some us vs canada exhibition would be better

no need to be assholes imo

don't want them to celebrate fucking stop them. can't handle that, don't compete.

how much more disrespectful would it have been if the 13-0 team acted bored by themselves? or if they stopped treating the other team as if they stood a chance?
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There's winning and then there's just beating someone who's already down and rubbing it in their faces.
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Funkydog posted...

There's winning and then there's just beating someone who's already down and rubbing it in their faces.

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No. In soccer, goal differential can play a big role in going to the next round.
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In times like this I ask myself, 'what would the president do'.

voldothegr8 posted...

Would you tell a men's team to not score or celebrate?'

And why does this IMMEDIATELY go to sexism accusations?
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They'd be doing the Thailand team a favor if they beat them so hard the mediocre players retire from soccer altogether and be replaced by better ones.

Silver Bearings posted...

voldothegr8 posted...

Would you tell a men's team to not score or celebrate?'

And why does this IMMEDIATELY go to sexism accusations?

Shifting the narrative is the best way to squash an issue.

People need to shit the fuck up though. Teams celebrate when they score, get over it.
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How about the other team GIT GUD
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Guess if they really didn't like it, they could scored some goals themselves.
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For me this really relates to the participation trophy issue. If they didnt like them celebrating, try harder to stop them from scoring? Idk.

The girls were and should be excited. Some of them may never play in another World Cup again.

Then again I have terrible sportsmanship hate losing and just in general Im a bad winner lol.

As long as they didn't taunt the other team, who gives a fuck?
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Was it beyond the norm? I mean there's celebrating, and then there's being a bunch of dickheads. I'm sure this is not the Thai womens' team's first game, so I'd be curious to know how egregious this all was
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Without seeing any video of it, Im going to guess that they werent doing elaborate celebrations. Just probably doing the usual stuff of a big group hug and congratulating each other.

If thats all that happened, then this is being blown out of proportion.


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I didn't see the game, but the pictures don't look bad to me. I don't think you should insult the opposing team or anything, but I don't see anything wrong with celebrating a goal.
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No, get dunked on, bitches!
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Silver Bearings posted...

voldothegr8 posted...

Would you tell a men's team to not score or celebrate?'

And why does this IMMEDIATELY go to sexism accusations?

But yeah male players are regularly criticised for the way they celebrate anyway

This is being way overblown though. It's the opening game of a world cup ffs. They would be idiots to 'go easy.

Imagine scoring your first goal in a World Cup ever and not celebrating....
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Master_Bass posted...

I didn't see the game, but the pictures don't look bad to me. I don't think you should insult the opposing team or anything, but I don't see anything wrong with celebrating a goal.

They were wearing red. Watch this video instead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MKIzfXxWMI" data-time="

yeah im sorry but this is a global comp fo rthe best in the world

no one cares about your feelies

if they couldnt compete they should NOT have been allowed in the tourney; thats on FIFA.
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Nothing wrong with this at all. Don't like people celebrating goals then work harder and get better.
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Silver Bearings posted...

voldothegr8 posted...

Would you tell a men's team to not score or celebrate?'

And why does this IMMEDIATELY go to sexism accusations?

Me and women are often treated differently
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i feel like treating this as poor sportsmanship comes with the assumption that these goals weren't hard or they didn't have to try -- basically that the other team didn't belong in the game. that 13 goals isn't an accomplishment worth celebrating because the other team was simply so pathetic.

i think it's better sportsmanship to never stop treating your opponent as if they can compete with you, and to celebrate your wins against that. if soccer teams are just going to give up, though, install a mercy rule and get it over with.
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Torrific posted...

Master_Bass posted...

I didn't see the game, but the pictures don't look bad to me. I don't think you should insult the opposing team or anything, but I don't see anything wrong with celebrating a goal.

They were wearing red. Watch this video instead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MKIzfXxWMI" data-time="

Thanks, it really didn't look bad to me.
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reminds me of the criticism of the 2007-8 patriots and the way they'd run up the score
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13-0 is classless no matter what.
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Literally mad sportsmen celebrate victories
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JlM posted...

13-0 is classless no matter what.

Goal differential so no. Its in group stages.

Celebrations depending on the length and extremity of it, especially when youre in the double digits

Pancake posted...

i think it's better sportsmanship to never stop treating your opponent as if they can compete with you, and to celebrate your wins against that.

Agreed.

And the highlight video of their goals seemed just fine to me.1st goal or 7th, I'd jump for joy. It's history in the making.
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People really whine about high scores outside of little kids sports? That's properly precious. What are they supposed to do? Miss on purpose?

Torrific posted...

Master_Bass posted...

I didn't see the game, but the pictures don't look bad to me. I don't think you should insult the opposing team or anything, but I don't see anything wrong with celebrating a goal.

They were wearing red. Watch this video instead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MKIzfXxWMI" data-time="

None of those celebrations were if poor sportsmanship.
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knutjob posted...

People really whine about high scores outside of little kids sports? That's properly precious. What are they supposed to do? Miss on purpose?

This
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So a death threat was sent a Canadian team player for criticizing them? Did anyone send death threats to the US team?

Nah. They put together their best team to try to compete at the top level. Their team sucked. Why should the US team not celebrate beating another team? It isn't the US teams fault that France couldn't hang.

If it's a kids teeball game sure. I get that. But this is the top soccer players. Don't suck and you won't get your feelings hurt.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Torrific posted...

Master_Bass posted...

I didn't see the game, but the pictures don't look bad to me. I don't think you should insult the opposing team or anything, but I don't see anything wrong with celebrating a goal.

They were wearing red. Watch this video instead:

-snip-

None of those celebrations were if poor sportsmanship.

I agree. I just wanted Master_Bass to form his conclusion based on actual footage rather than the wrong pic of them wearing white.

Pancake posted...

don't want them to celebrate fucking stop them. can't handle that, don't compete.

how much more disrespectful would it have been if the 13-0 team acted bored by themselves? or if they stopped treating the other team as if they stood a chance?

This. And I'm sure at some point the US team wanted to stop running up the score to be respectful, but since goal differential can make a difference whether you advance or not, they had to keep scoring.
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knutjob posted...

People really whine about high scores outside of little kids sports? That's properly precious. What are they supposed to do? Miss on purpose?

Stand around or some shit? Somehow I guess whiny people consider that less offensive.
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They were normal celebrations....I take it those bothered aren't familiar with the sport....it's bullshit because they set a brand new record and instead of celebrating they're suppose to be neutral? Then people would complain that they don't even care or seem happy....
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Did any of them rip their shirts off?

Sackgurl posted...

reminds me of the criticism of the 2007-8 patriots and the way they'd run up the score

Saints got some shit for doing the same against the Falcons several years ago.

So we want to teach these ladies to basically give up and stop trying? Seems like that would be bad sportsmanship.
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If they were just celebrating, then that's fine and imo, not bad sportsmanship. If they were taunting the other team for it, then yeah, that's bad sportsmanship.

The alternative to scoring would be to just play a prolonged game of keep-away or to let the other team score. That would be a lot more condescending than to keep playing and treating your opponent as competition.
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PumpkinEscobar posted...

Sackgurl posted...

reminds me of the criticism of the 2007-8 patriots and the way they'd run up the score

Saints got some shit for doing the same against the Falcons several years ago.

So we want to teach these ladies to basically give up and stop trying? Seems like that would be bad sportsmanship.

In real football it's a bit different though. Right or wrong it's straight up disrespect and scummy to go for it on 4th down in the 4th quarter while being up 5+ TDs. Plus the score isn't the problem here, it's the celebrations some people are ass mad over.
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Pukelid posted...

Silver Bearings posted...

voldothegr8 posted...

Would you tell a men's team to not score or celebrate?'

And why does this IMMEDIATELY go to sexism accusations?

Me and women are often treated differently

More like because people who dont watch sports make comments about it not knowing this same conversation happens in mens sports

it's straight up disrespect and scummy to go for it on 4th down in the 4th quarter while being up 5+ TDs.

depends on the alternatives. i think a chip shot field goal in that situation is absolutely running up the score, and a turnover on downs in enemy territory - with a score that far apart - is as meaningful as a punt.

i think the same is true of the opposite -- it's running up the score and meaningless to kick a field goal if you need 3 touchdowns in two minutes. constantly airing out the ball to try to make up an impossible lead is stupid and reckless, too. the pats lost in the 'right way' last year to the texans. they were well out of range so they just ran the ball and took their lumps.
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