Board 8 > NHL Discussion Topic - Part 6 - Screw the Bruins

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SmartMuffin
06/17/19 6:08:58 PM
#151:


That's one hell of an awful contract... San Jose is done being relevant for a bit, IMO
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Shadow Dino
06/17/19 8:11:53 PM
#152:


Trouba to the Rangers:

https://twitter.com/NYRangers/status/1140767567440691206
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Shadow Dino
06/17/19 11:58:03 PM
#153:


That trade sure looks like a swindle the Rangers pulled off
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SmartMuffin
06/18/19 7:44:51 AM
#154:


Pionk is young and has a lot of potential. Cheaper too. Higher risk but potentially higher rewards for Winnipeg.

The Rangers are going to be a lot better than people think. Wouldn't be surprised if they make the playoffs.
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Shadow Dino
06/18/19 7:59:58 PM
#155:


https://twitter.com/tsnbobmckenzie/status/1140995573274828800?s=21

People are starting to think the cap is going to be less than $82 million next year. Fun times!
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davidponte
06/18/19 9:05:35 PM
#156:


Marner's agent has gone off the rails. Best case scenario here is an offer sheet and the 4 picks, sooner rather than later so I don't have to hear about it all summer.
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Not Dave
06/18/19 9:08:58 PM
#157:


No one is going to offer sheet someone in the 4-pick range
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IfGodCouldDie
06/18/19 9:26:15 PM
#158:


When do you think GM's start making contracts based on the percent of the salary cap? As in the contracts would pay out based on the salary cap instead of a hard number.
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SmartMuffin
06/18/19 9:56:29 PM
#159:


Word is that's what happened with Karlsson. He asked for Doughty's contract as a percentage of the cap (and they gave it to him)
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MartinFF7
06/18/19 11:01:44 PM
#160:


Not Dave posted...
No one is going to offer sheet someone in the 4-pick range

come on Ken Holland, make a big splash in Edmonton...
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MartinFF7
06/18/19 11:54:31 PM
#161:


Kevin Hayes 7 years / 50 million with Flyers.

friendly reminder on his stats: http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=127775

So I mean... am I missing some "intangibles" here? Because that seems atrocious.
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KCF0107
06/19/19 12:10:03 AM
#162:


Is he considered an elite defensive winger?
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SmartMuffin
06/19/19 8:06:11 AM
#163:


MartinFF7 posted...
Kevin Hayes 7 years / 50 million with Flyers.

friendly reminder on his stats: http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=127775

So I mean... am I missing some "intangibles" here? Because that seems atrocious.


It was atrocious when Winnipeg traded for him too, and everyone applauded it as some great, amazing move.
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Shadow Dino
06/19/19 8:31:23 AM
#164:


I remember Blackhawks fans were wailing over him not signing in Chicago, but Hayes isn't considered a missed opportunity now.
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Shadow Dino
06/19/19 11:36:29 AM
#165:


As a comparable to a guy I still lament the Blackhawks lost, Teuvo Teravainen has a $5.4 mil cap hit until 2024.

The Flyers will regret this Hayes deal.
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Strife2
06/19/19 4:09:32 PM
#166:


What team is scummy enough to buy someone out and then take to Twitter to memorialize them as if they were retired? If you said the Anaheim Ducks, you're correct.
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davidponte
06/19/19 4:10:39 PM
#167:


Seems incredibly fitting for an asshole like Corey Perry.
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Strife2
06/19/19 4:13:01 PM
#168:


At least Fletcher is GM of Philly now. If he were still with the Wild, he'd give Perry an offer sheet to be a top liner to play with Koivu.
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TheKnightOfNee
06/19/19 8:05:26 PM
#169:


I hope Corey Perry stays in the West. I'd rather not see that guy any more games per year than I already do.
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SmartMuffin
06/20/19 8:09:35 AM
#170:


Honestly, I'm not his biggest fan and the way the league and NBC have been overhyping him is a bit annoying... but can't we just have PK host the NHL awards? Why do we need c-list celebrities who don't actually know anything about hockey?
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Shadow Dino
06/20/19 2:20:06 PM
#171:


The draft is tomorrow and the NHL still hasn't set a salary cap for next year yet. What a league.
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Shadow Dino
06/20/19 10:10:58 PM
#172:


https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1141880646870036480

Heh, GMs have discussed eliminating offsides completely. That would certainly get rid of a dumb video review.
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MartinFF7
06/20/19 11:10:59 PM
#173:


No offsides? So like.... my grade school cherry-picking dreams come true? Or I guess the 2 line pass would still prevent that...

Still seems like an overreaction, just making coach's challenges on offsides not a thing, if it doesn't get called immediately it can't be called retroactively. Like that one time an obvious hand pass led directly to a goal but it couldn't be reviewed/called off.

(yeah, the Blues won the cup at least, but I'll never not be annoyed by that)
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IfGodCouldDie
06/20/19 11:22:07 PM
#174:


MartinFF7 posted...
No offsides? So like.... my grade school cherry-picking dreams come true? Or I guess the 2 line pass would still prevent that...

Still seems like an overreaction, just making coach's challenges on offsides not a thing, if it doesn't get called immediately it can't be called retroactively. Like that one time an obvious hand pass led directly to a goal but it couldn't be reviewed/called off.

(yeah, the Blues won the cup at least, but I'll never not be annoyed by that)

2 line pass hasn't been a thing for sometime.
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MartinFF7
06/20/19 11:27:35 PM
#175:


I know the red line got removed but I thought maybe a blue line to blue line would still count, but I guess not... well if they got rid of offsides it'd be back!
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Shadow Dino
06/21/19 12:57:36 PM
#176:


Draft day!

Really hoping the Blackhawks take Byram. Gimme the surefire #1 defenseman.
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Not Dave
06/21/19 12:58:18 PM
#177:


it's gonna be funny to see how much Kaliyev drops for no fucking reason
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Shadow Dino
06/21/19 8:31:54 PM
#178:


Kirby Dach?! Ugh.
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TheKnightOfNee
06/21/19 8:40:07 PM
#179:


Blackhawks with a bit of a miss there
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MysteriousStan
06/21/19 8:44:20 PM
#180:


Yeah after everyone was mocking us Turcotte or Byram I feel pretty meh on Dach. That said, I don't follow junior hockey so I don't really know what I'm talking about anyway.
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davidponte
06/21/19 8:49:24 PM
#181:


Did the ghost of Ken Holland make this pick
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TheKnightOfNee
06/21/19 8:53:09 PM
#182:


Red Wings with quite a reach here. We really really need good defensemen, but, hm
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Shadow Dino
06/21/19 9:23:58 PM
#183:


Guess you can never have enough centers, so the pick isn't horrible for the Blackhawks. Just hope passing on Byram doesn't come back to haunt them.
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TheKnightOfNee
06/21/19 10:27:12 PM
#184:


Yzerman must have started a trend, because everyone is reaching for defensemen now.
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Shadow Dino
06/21/19 10:44:56 PM
#185:


There's gonna be some solid value to be had in the second round
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Not Dave
06/22/19 1:09:14 AM
#186:


Not Dave posted...
it's gonna be funny to see how much Kaliyev drops for no fucking reason


oh hey, scouts being scouts
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SmartMuffin
06/22/19 9:29:31 AM
#187:


Not Dave posted...
Not Dave posted...
it's gonna be funny to see how much Kaliyev drops for no fucking reason


oh hey, scouts being scouts


he looks vaguely Russian

as if that's not reason enough?
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Whiskey_Nick
06/22/19 9:43:37 AM
#188:


was hoping Sens would take him round 1

I guess round 2 is just as good
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Shadow Dino
06/22/19 9:51:15 AM
#189:


Something about intangibles gritfartgrit. I'm gonna laugh if he falls to the Blackhawks and we get a chorus of "God damnit, they got another draft steal!"

Also, I've decided that I'm okay with Toews - Strome - Dach - Kampf down the center with the provision that I do not have to watch Gustav Forsling attempt to play defense.
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Strife2
06/22/19 10:08:42 AM
#190:


Knowing nothing about Boldy (and anything non-Wild to be fair), the words "power forward who scores screams Charlie Coyle 2.0, and I hope I'm wrong.

Flashes of good play mired in a LOT of boredom.
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davidponte
06/22/19 12:20:57 PM
#191:


The mad man did it! Marleau to the Canes for a bag of pucks, and it cost the Leafs a 1st round pick.

Bring on PK Subban.

I'm already dreading the 12 million Marner is about to get as well.
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davidponte
06/22/19 12:38:09 PM
#192:


PK to the Devils.

Fuck Mitch Marner.
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Shadow Dino
06/22/19 12:55:53 PM
#193:


Devils gave up a bunch of scraps for a Norris winner.

I look forward to the Predators being mediocre.
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TheKnightOfNee
06/22/19 2:04:59 PM
#194:


SmartMuffin posted...
Not Dave posted...
Not Dave posted...
it's gonna be funny to see how much Kaliyev drops for no fucking reason


oh hey, scouts being scouts


he looks vaguely Russian

as if that's not reason enough?

He was born in Uzbekistan, but grew up in the US, and then moved to the OHL for junior hockey. So, uh, no clue what that means for anyone's biases towards nationalities.

Also, Canucks give away a bunch for JT Miller? Does Jim Benning even think through his trades?
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SmartMuffin
06/22/19 3:46:37 PM
#195:


He was born in Uzbekistan, but grew up in the US, and then moved to the OHL for junior hockey. So, uh, no clue what that means for anyone's biases towards nationalities.


That was my point though. He looks Russian. That's enough to trigger the biases, regardless of the actual facts of the matter! Anyway, Kings got him, so that's cool.
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SmartMuffin
06/22/19 3:47:48 PM
#196:


Shadow Dino posted...
Devils gave up a bunch of scraps for a Norris winner.

I look forward to the Predators being mediocre.


Honestly, PK has been pretty "meh" for the last couple years. Whether he has regressed or whether he was just a really bad fit in Nashville's system remains to be seen, but he really didn't make them any better. Seems like a good idea for the Devils to take a risk on him here.
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Strife2
06/22/19 4:31:33 PM
#197:


*Reads up on Boldy*

"Potentially best passer in the draft, but shot isn't prolific"

Fuck. I know we got rid of Granlund, but we don't need pass-first people..
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Shadow Dino
06/22/19 6:18:56 PM
#198:


And the salary cap is now official: $81.5 million.

Good luck to the cap strapped teams
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davidponte
06/22/19 6:44:42 PM
#199:


Kapanen and Johnsson signing great, fair market value deals.

Someone send Marner's agent to the gulag
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SmartMuffin
06/23/19 12:01:42 AM
#200:


Someone send Marner's agent to the gulag


Is that where the Coyotes play these days?
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